“Disney Pulls 2026 ‘Star Wars’ Movie From Release Calendar”
https://www.thewrap.com/disney-2026-star-wars-movie-pulled-release/
Not unexpected.
Rumor has it that Lawrence Kasdan is gonna be the new writer of this.
Where did you hear this?
Let’s not act like Rogue One wasn’t any less messy saved in editing and reshoots. So was Star Wars 1977 and Return of the Jedi.
Rogue One is especially tantalizing to me, because I can’t help wondering how great it might have turned out if Tony Gilroy had had more time to fix up the movie, or if he had had creative control from the start. The movie as-is is a little uneven, and the seams of the reshoots are visible, especially when you compare it to the trailers. Without Gilroy, it probably would have been a mediocre movie at best. With Gilroy in control, it could have been an Andor-tier masterpiece. It makes the movie kind of hard to rewatch now.
As long as he doesn’t say “Yippee!”, I’ll be okay.
I will never not be so impressed with Mark Hamill’s acting, especially in the third act. He is so convincing in portraying Luke’s zen determination, but always reminds us with subtle micro expressions that Luke is still afraid, deep down.
I think that’s important. Luke not emotionless, but he’s (almost) mastered the art of regulating his emotions. He uses his compassion for his father to attempt to reach him, but doesn’t lose control until Vader threatens his sister. When he falters, lashes out in rage, he then stops, reflects, and let’s go. Being a Jedi is about being in balance with your emotions, and Luke captures that so perfectly.
It’s hard to think of anyone else who would put themselves on the line to save an abusive father who tortured and killed people he cared about, all because he knows of the conflict that his father represses. That’s a hero.
RotJ is the movie that really elevated Luke from a good character to a great one. It’s why I don’t abide people claiming that Luke is generic or uninteresting. Luke is great because he doesn’t fit the stereotypical image of the knight or warrior. He’s reserved and soft spoken, and conquers the villain through compassion, not force. He is what a knight would be in an ideal world.
But the Sequels show us that Rey kind of just “downloads the Force” after her “mind-meld” with Kylo Ren.
There is absolutely no evidence in the movie itself that this is what happens.
I’m pretty sure that comes from the TFA novelization. Or at least it’s strongly implied that’s what happens.
There’s a difference between drawing visual and thematic inspiration from Vietnam, and doing a full-on allegory about the Vietnam war. And if Star Wars really was meant to be a Vietnam allegory, then it’s a really bad one for several reasons.
George has always been one to speak bluntly. He’s not gonna beat around the bush and say something like “I drew on the visuals and themes of Vietnam to enhance my story.” He’ll just say “It’s about Vietnam. Palpatine is Nixon.” Because he speaks bluntly. That doesn’t make it a full allegory, necessarily.
I’ve had a change of heart recently. At this point, I think the Disney deal was a huge mistake.
Why the change?
Yeah, I see that too, I just think it’s symptomatic of an unwieldy/messy script more than it is intentional malice or whatever for the series. That’s ridiculous to me, it’s at worst a guy who has different ideas [than you or someone else] about how this all works and who these characters are.
I agree. TLJ may be very flawed and misguided in a lot of ways, but it’s not malicious or nihilistic or anti-Star Wars. At most, you could call it existentialist, since the movie has the heroes question the basic aspects of Star Wars, only to choose to embrace them in the end, anyway.
My problem is mainly that I think the sequel trilogy era is too shallow and flimsy to stand up to that level of scrutiny or questioning, so I ended up disengaging, and felt no investment in what was going on.
Anyway, we were talking about dialogue.
I get the sense Finn was meant to be the Han analogue, or at least TLJ treats him like he is, but it doesn’t really work because he’s such a fundamentally different character, at least on paper. He’s not the scoundrel archetype, but Rose interacts with him like he is.
You make it sound so good!
Never change, man. Never change.
Nope actually that line is awesome. So is the kill the past one from Kylo Ren.
I’m not a fan of anything Holdo says in this scene
Blazing hot take I know
For me, it’s not so much what she says, but the way she says it. The way she’s leaning in close to him, half-whispering the words, smiling with what I would best describe as saccharine condescension. I wondered at the time why this moment bugged me, and it’s because Holdo was giving off Dolores Umbridge vibes. I recall Rian Johnson saying once that he intended for Holdo to be a little flirtatious towards Poe, and I think her behavior in this scene is a holdover from that.
Also, once again, the movie doesn’t acknowledge Starkiller Base, or the fact that Poe just destroyed it the day before. It’s the same problem with how Finn’s role in the climax of TFA isn’t appreciated.
I don’t remember a lot of the exact dialogue, but Luke’s line of how “Do you think I came to the most unfindable place in the galaxy…” was kind of clunky. Plus Rey’s line that went like “Master Skywalker, we need you to bring back the Jedi because Kylo Ren is strong in the Dark Side of the Force,” or something like that.
My least favorite line, though, is Rose calling Finn “a selfish traitor,” just because of who she’s talking to. Finn was a child soldier who’d been raised his whole life in a soulless military machine. He had never had a chance to live a normal civilian life. Then he goes and breaks out of his conditioning, runs away, and despite his fear of the First Order helps destroy Starkiller Base and save the Resistance, and then he even stands up to Kylo Ren himself.
After all that, Finn didn’t owe the Resistance anything, and he wasn’t officially a member, anyway. It was entirely within his rights for him to leave so that he could start his life over as a civilian. Rose’s admonishment seems like Rian Johnson wrote it with a different character in mind, one who hadn’t experienced what Finn had.
I recall back in the day the most controversial claims from Plinkett were related to how a lot of the whole Naboo invasion plot doesn’t really stand up to scrutiny. I agree with RLM on this one, but that point always received lots of backlash by Prequel fans eager to explain Palpatine’s amazingly nebulous and malleable master-plan that could really be whatever you want it to be.
There’s this Youtuber, Sheev Talks, who in his TPM video did a response to a lot of Plinkett’s points. He accused Plinkett of not paying attention, and claimed that the opening crawl made the conflict perfectly clear.
I don’t agree. The crawl does not explain the situation well. It was never clear to me whether the Trade Federation was for or against the trade route taxes, and the movie never specifies. It tells us the taxation is in dispute. That’s all.
And the guy then goes on to explain the specifics of Palpatine’s plans and contingencies, a lot of which feels more like conjecture than anything else, then acts like it’s all perfectly obvious.
The bummer about all this, besides all the people losing work, is that Disney and Lucasfilm will probably take away the lesson that “people don’t want Dark Side-themed stories” and just never attempt a story like that again. This will probably be it for the foreseeable future.
I agree with this but it won’t happen. The pre-1999 people like me are a vanishingly small minority. Maybe until some zoomers put out some 3 hour video essays about it, but that seems unlikely.
Wouldn’t it include the entire Prequel-hating side of the fandom?
That side of the fandom has shrunken a lot over the past ten years.
I second the oohteedee edits. They’re the best-looking versions of the movies.
What are these edits? How do they differ from standard d77?
Nice to see you posting again!
Glad to be back!
I actually just meant D+77/80/83.
I second the oohteedee edits. They’re the best-looking versions of the movies.
Or we could just accept that fundamental continuity and character differences exist between each trilogy. That is why the easiest solution is to treat each trilogy as its own entity, existing in a separate continuity from the others. I cannot imagine the universe of the Prequel Trilogy naturally giving rise to the universe of the Original Trilogy, nor of the Original Trilogy giving rise to the Sequel Trilogy.
This is basically how I see it. I think the prequels don’t really work as buildup to the OT, but I still like them when I watch them as their own thing.
Of course, that doesn’t align with what George says he wants, since he wants people to watch I-VI like it’s “one long movie.” But with the prequels we have, that just doesn’t click for me.
Rogue One and Solo are in-universe holothrillers produced under the New Republic as celebrations of Rebel heroes. While the broadstrokes events are true, creative license was taken with the details for dramatic effect.
Leia is sassy and has a bit of an attitude, but it’s not like she’s complaining all the time. She snaps at Han over how bungled the whole rescue mission is, but you’ll notice she never snaps at Luke like that. She’s nice to him, and comforts him after Obi-Wan’s death. She’s not just being difficult for the sake of it. She’s fighting a rebellion against an empire, and she doesn’t have time for cocky, blundering mercenaries.
I just want to pop in say hi and express my support for Spartacus standing up to this. I want you all to know that I’d love to come back and post here regularly, but I also can’t bring myself to play along with the whole sock account charade, which has become harder and harder to ignore as more people have left the site, many of them probably for the same reason I did.
As for EU unpopular opinions, I don’t mind the idea of Palpatine preparing for the Vong invasion, in theory. Of course, if he really did know it was coming, he definitely wouldn’t have kept it a secret. He’d have used the Vong as a convenient external threat to justify more executive powers and military buildup. But I don’t agree with the idea that it paints Palpatine as a good guy. It just makes him a rival of another villain, but no less a villain himself.
I do, however, dislike how much Thrawn was made out to actually be a good guy. As the EU went on, Timothy Zahn seemed to whitewash his actions more and more, like making it so that he destroyed Outbound Flight in self defense rather than just destroying it on Palpatine’s orders. I don’t mind the idea that he was really playing some sort of galactic long game the whole time, but at the end of the day, he’s still a ruthless dictator. I don’t know. It’s a tricky balance to strike. I like the Empire of the Hand as a concept, but they almost seem too moral.
I was expecting it to be the Plinkett reviews. Nope, it’s the opposite lol
it’s the Ego the Living Planet of Prequel defenders
The Prequels are awesome because they’re stylistically designed to be that way.
The Prequels are awesome because they’re stylistically designed to be that way.
The Prequels are good because they quote shots better movies.
it’s hard for me to explain, so this video explains it for me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqnjzVX8EKA
Rick Worley?
You must be trolling? Or you would not have posted that the video was by him, and without saying it was by Rick Worley?
C;mon, your first post on an OT discussion forum is link to a video by Rick Worley
Can I be honest? Can I be truly, brutally honest?
The attitude of many members of this forum towards those who defend the Prequel Trilogy is reprehensible in my opinion. Okay, this is an OT discussion forum. So what? Does that mean that one can’t be free to defend the Prequel Trilogy? Does that mean that one must only talk badly about those movies? I myself have been the subject of similar criticism in the past, and even though I didn’t say it openly, I was very annoyed by this. Just because I said that the dialogue isn’t as bad as everyone says, I was treated with condescension, and it was very annoying for me.
You all should stop acting like you have absolute truth, because it can be very irritating. Don’t get me wrong, to discuss and criticize other people’s arguments is absolutely okay. But to act like “Yeah bro, sure, you can continue to carry out your wrong opinions, but the rest of us, who are all superior, will continue to say things as they are” is very irritating.
You claim to be a friendly forum where everyone can express their opinions freely, and you even boast to have numerous Prequel fans on here. But paradoxically, every time that a Prequel fan who actually tries to defend the movies pops up, he gets overwhelmed with criticism and condescending, or he’s even accused of being a troll solely because he says things that are different from the common thought on here. It happened to me, it happened to Stardust1138, it happened to other people, and it’s going to happen over and over again, because this place has become an echo chamber.
I suggest you all to grow up and learn to respect other people’s opinions.
Yeah. You’re right. It’s wrong to act all condescending about something like this. Prequel fans should be welcome here. Otherwise, we’re no better than the worst echo chambers.
it’s hard for me to explain, so this video explains it for me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqnjzVX8EKA
uh oh…
I was expecting it to be the Plinkett reviews. Nope, it’s the opposite lol
The supposedly “new empowered crew” literally screws up and gets nearly everyone in the Resistance Killed whereas if Poe had listened to Leia and Holdo in the first place none of that would have happened but apparently them failing so hard that they almost singlehandedly destroy the entire resistance is them saving the day? The only reason the entire Resistance doesn’t die is because Leia wakes up from her coma and shoots Poe into unconsciousness
If Poe had listened to Leia, the Dreadnought would have followed the Resistance fleet through hyperspace and killed them all anyway with its super mega “fleet killer” cannon. Also, Leia stunning Poe was completely overkill. Her or Holdo could have literally said the phrase “They can’t track the smaller transports” at any point, and that whole plot wouldn’t have happened.
As for Rey, she basically doesn’t get trained in this movie. She teaches Luke more than he teaches her. And she still kicks the Praetorian guards’ butts and lifts a mountain of boulders seemingly effortlessly. And Kylo refusing to turn to the Light is moreso just a reflection of Kylo being a PoS, not Rey failing at something. She’s utterly morally superior in every situation. It’s not like with Luke and Yoda where Yoda is the source of wisdom and power that Luke needs to emulate. Rey is simply better than Luke, already. She didn’t need him at all.
Then he trolls his nephew, and dies from the effort, having done the absolute bare minimum of keeping a handful of Resistance alive.
