SamS

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Post: #247062
Topic: Letterboxed to anamorphic video conversion
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247062/action/topic#247062
Time: 21-Sep-2006 9:39 PM

Originally posted by: wmgan
The method I'd use is the method I posted in the very first message in this thread.

Which step in your first post deals with the forced film mode?

Post: #246793
Topic: Letterboxed to anamorphic video conversion
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/246793/action/topic#246793
Time: 21-Sep-2006 2:56 PM

Originally posted by: wmgan
I've never used DVD Rebuilder so I can't really guide you there. Hopefully someone else will be able to help you out...

Is there another software solution that you can recommend to me to try with free, downloadable components?

Again, I've accomplished the anamorphic squeeze, I just need a good way to manipulate that video and force film mode.

Post: #246661
Topic: Letterboxed to anamorphic video conversion
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/246661/action/topic#246661
Time: 21-Sep-2006 1:18 AM

wmgan, ya I totally follow. BUT, (a big but), this is where I don't know how to go any further. Can you explain the logistics of this? I know where the forced film setting is, I know how to run DVD ReBuilder Pro. I know how to run the entire movie through DGIndex. When I do all of this, I'm left with 4 file index(s?), i.e. Starwars.dv2, starwars.ac3, etc.

So what do I do now? I have these little "direction" files that tell DVD Rebuilder (or VirtualDub?) what to do? So now I need to write a script in the AVS file in DVD ReBuilder Pro so AVSynth can access the commands and indicators that DGIndex decided upon? If so, can someone write this for me?

I have all the pieces of the puzzle, and all the tools, I'm just hoping someone can help me get from point 'A' to point 'E' to finish this project. If this makes sense to you, please play me for stoopid/confused and lay it out in 5 (?) steps or whatever if possible.

Post: #246611
Topic: Letterboxed to anamorphic video conversion
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/246611/action/topic#246611
Time: 20-Sep-2006 9:21 PM

Originally posted by: wmgan
SamS, the best way to remove any interlacing errors would probably be to reencode the video with the "Forced Film" setting in DGIndex (and correspondingly, the "3:2 pulldown" option in TMPGEnc). I know that means redoing all you've done, but I don't think there's a good way around that.

Hi wmgan. Yes, I agree completely with your suggestion... My problem is as stated before, I do not know the steps to take to implement this approach with DGIndex. Like mentioned above, I have DGIndex installed. I even ran the "anamorphically corrected" VOB through it. DGIndex made 4-5 small files, including a .dv2 and .ac3 file. Now, where do I go from here?

Post: #246524
Topic: Letterboxed to anamorphic video conversion
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/246524/action/topic#246524
Time: 20-Sep-2006 6:32 PM

Originally posted by: torque91
Are you trying to reprocess a video to remove the anomalies?

Correct. I've very satisfied with my letterbox-to-anamorphic conversion, I just want to use some type of reprocessing to remove the interlacing errors.

I have both GreedHMA and DGIndex downloaded and ready to go. I'm just not familiar with the step by step process to implement them, including the scripts (?) that would need to be plugged in to DVD Rebuilder Pro. Do I need to use VirtualDub if I have DVD Rebuilder Pro?

I'm just unclear on the exact steps to take from here. I know I'm asking alot, but I really feel I have all the tools necessary, and am so close to getting an acceptable end results. I just need some more direction.

Post: #246464
Topic: Letterboxed to anamorphic video conversion
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/246464/action/topic#246464
Time: 20-Sep-2006 4:40 PM

Originally posted by: torque91
You might be having the same problem I was having at first. Forced film mode in DGIndex fixed my problem.

Exactly! But my problem is that unable to peform all the steps to do the forced-film mode using DGInex. I downloaded DGIndex. Ran my (already anamorphic) VOB through it. Got several script files including a .dv2, .ac3 file, etc.

Can you walk me through what to do next? I'm assuming I have to run an AVS script inside DVDrb Pro and run the whole thing through DVDrb Pro again. I tried reading the help/text file for DGIndex, but I got lost after creating my .dv2 and .ac3 file indexes.

Post: #246458
Topic: Letterboxed to anamorphic video conversion
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/246458/action/topic#246458
Time: 20-Sep-2006 4:27 PM

Originally posted by: torque91
You actually write the script in notepad and save it as an .avs file. Mine looked something like this:

MPEG2Source("C:\Star_Wars\Video_TS\starwars.d2v")
Crop(0,60,0,-60)
Lanczos4Resize(720, 480)

I only cropped and resized. Of course you replace the path in the first line with the path of the .d2v file you created (leave the quotation marks in the script). You then open TMPGEnc Plus (you can download a 14 day trial) and select the .avs file as the video source. TMPGEnc Plus will generate the newly stretched .M2V file for you to use in DVD-lab Pro (a 30 free trial on this one). DVD-lab Pro will allow you to combine the new .M2V file you just created with the .ac3 audio file as well as the subtitles(with a little work).

I have been searching for a way to make non-anamorphic DVD's usable on my front CRT projector for quite a while. Many thanks to wmgan for posting this method!!!! I am now working on my Disney's Ichabod Crane DVD

Thanks for your reply. Actually, I'm all set with converting to anamorphic, it turned out really good. I don't think I need any more cropping and resizing via Lanczos4Resize, correct? Or is this what is helping me force 24fps video? Sorry if I'm sounding dense here, I just need the easiest way to fix the nasty burned in jaggies.

I'm open to using either DGIndex or GreedyHMA if someone can show me what (and how) to insert the script. I have both of the previously mentioned applications downloaded and ready. Just can't fix the jaggies...arrgh!

Post: #246279
Topic: Letterboxed to anamorphic video conversion
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/246279/action/topic#246279
Time: 20-Sep-2006 10:14 AM

Originally posted by: torque91
I ripped the subtitles using Subrip but ended up with the entire English subtitle track. I went back and deleted everything except the Greedo lines. I think I had the fps set wrong because I had to go back and manually adjust the timing by 4 seconds (been making a lot of coasters lately). Now I have to do Jedi. Can't wait....uggg!!

torque91, can you give me some pointers for using DGIndex? I successfully created the .dv2 files, .ac3 etc, and tried to write a text file to implement them but no luck.

I'm using DVD Rebuilder Pro. Can I write a script directly into the AVS section of Rebuilder Pro? I feel like I'm *so* close to getting this to work, any help is very much appreciated!

Post: #246125
Topic: Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/246125/action/topic#246125
Time: 19-Sep-2006 10:51 PM

Originally posted by: Infinity
Can anyone help me with doing the conversion. I thought I had everything set up correctly, but I get the following error when going to the "encode" step using DVD Rebuilder v0.97.

ERROR:
D:\A2AVS\item.ecl is not a ECL for Cinema Craft Encoder. SP.

I have CCE 2.7 SP installed, and path set correctly in DVD Rebuilder. Any ideas?

Sorry, I haven't used CCE, but I did have good luck with Quenc.

Any updates from anyone trying to get rid of the "jaggies"?

Post: #245361
Topic: Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245361/action/topic#245361
Time: 18-Sep-2006 2:14 AM

Originally posted by: Laserschwert
I tried TomsMoComp and it does fix the stairsteps partially. I'm not sure if it also kills some detail though.

Another (and muuuuch slower) filter for vertical interpolation is Sangnom, which removes the jaggies almost completely, but causes some artifacts in detail areas.

Unfortunately I am only working with the PAL version, which is already upscaled. If I'd have access to some (jaggy) clips from the NTSC version, I could check if there's a way to somehow recover those fields.

Excellent. I didn't get very far in finding a solution. Any way I can be of help with my NTSC version?

Post: #245257
Topic: Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245257/action/topic#245257
Time: 17-Sep-2006 6:02 PM

Even though they came from a D1 master, its still should be encoded @ 24 fps. Regardless, I suppose we're just picking nits here.... there's something obviously wrong with the encoding and we both recognize that. Any ideas on how to fix?

Post: #245215
Topic: Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245215/action/topic#245215
Time: 17-Sep-2006 3:51 PM

Originally posted by: Laserschwert

Originally posted by: SamS
Doctor M, from what I understand, TomsMoComp is only for video-based material.

The sad thing is, the new DVDs ARE based on video material.

How do you figure? Obviously they were shot on 24fps 35mm film, and any decent de-interlacer will recognize the flag sequence and properly reconstruct the 2:3 pulldown sequence to produce 60 field per second video (NTSC). A video based DVD would be something like a concert video shot with a 60 frames per second interlaced video camera.

Post: #245192
Topic: Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245192/action/topic#245192
Time: 17-Sep-2006 2:53 PM

Doctor M, from what I understand, TomsMoComp is only for video-based material. Also from what I read GreedyHMA has been surpassed in functionality/features by decomb.dll, which I do use in conjuntion with DVDrb Pro.

Post: #245135
Topic: Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245135/action/topic#245135
Time: 17-Sep-2006 11:43 AM

Originally posted by: ripa The only reason to convert to anamorphic would be if the scanlines become too visible on a widescreen CRT television when using letterbox mode.

Bingo. I have a 55" rear projection CRT TV. My set has to do it's "zoom" function optically. While not terrible, it certainly does not look good, and artifacts are obvious to me. By converting to anamorphic (DVD-9), I save myself the steps of expanding the picture, and the improvements are worth it based on my successes so far.

If I could only get rid of the interlacing artifacts, I'd be one happy camper. These errors must be hard encoded into the frames. I use a Denon DVD-3910 DVD player, which I've never been able to trip up before due to the internal Faroudja processing.

Post: #245098
Topic: Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245098/action/topic#245098
Time: 17-Sep-2006 4:53 AM

Originally posted by: live4ten
I just finished running ESB through dvd rebuilder pro using CCE 2.70 3-pass with the target as dvd-9 anamorphic and an Undot() filter as described in the previously linked tutorial. I'm pretty happy with the results.

Looks good! Were you able to get rid of the interlaced artifacting in EpIV?

DoctorM, GreedyHMA could possibly be the right track, but after reading it more, I'm still unclear on how to use it. Couldn't get anywhere looking into TomsMoComp.

I suppose my lack of understanding on what is causing the occasional artifacts, coupled with my unfamiliarity with these plugins is causing me stress. I'm all ears and ready to learn and experiment with any suggestions you guys have. Thanks.

Post: #245085
Topic: Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245085/action/topic#245085
Time: 17-Sep-2006 2:11 AM

Originally posted by: ESHBGThanks a lot for the info, SamS! I am *kind of* regretting not getting these discs now, because I would've liked to have created anamorphic versions of them. I've never done this before but it really seems like a great first project to tackle. But as you can see in this thread, I just couldn't bring myself to buy these and support Luca$ for this sub-par release...

Trust me I have lots of the same feelings

Encoding them as anamorphic makes a substantial improvement on my CRT RPTV. The transfers have decent color and contrast, with no edge enhancement. So, with a bit of effort, I've got a pretty nice version of the OUT, even though I needed a bit of help from GL. Now, if I could only figure out how to tackle these interlacing artifacts....

Post: #245083
Topic: Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245083/action/topic#245083
Time: 17-Sep-2006 1:57 AM

Originally posted by: ESHBG
SamS, I am no expert but I doubt the option Doctor M. is referring to is found in the free version. I say this because I quickly found out that the free version is a very stripped down version and most of the features I would like and need, I would need to get Pro for.

EDIT: And a question for those that made these anamorphic already: where do the subtitles appear now? I know people who have the DVDs and use the Zoom are complaining about them being cut off. Does this anamorphic transfer put them into the picture now somehow?

Good info, ESHBG. It looks like I should invest in the Pro version.

To answer your question, the subtitles are properly placed in the newly anamorphic version. They are player-generated forced subtitles, and DVDrb does fine with them. The Han/Greedo scene looks great, with no cropped/missing subtitles

Post: #245080
Topic: Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245080/action/topic#245080
Time: 17-Sep-2006 1:47 AM

Yeah, I only have the trial version.... I don't see a "settings" option to designate DVD-9 target size. What drop down menu would it be under?

Also, have we found any tools or plugins to take care of those funky diagonal line artifacts?

Post: #245071
Topic: Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245071/action/topic#245071
Time: 17-Sep-2006 1:23 AM

Hi all,

I'm new around here, but did a lot of reading.

I was successful at making an anamorphic version of the new OUT using DVD Rebuilder trial version. Looks decent, except for the above mentioned weird interlacing artifacts.

My problem is that I want to back these discs up using DVD+DL discs to take full advatange of the 7+GB size of the movies. When I did the re-encode with DVD Rebuilder, it shrunk everything down to fit on a standard 4.4GB DVD+R blank. Can someone tell me how I can back up with no compression ( and still keep my 4:3LB to 16x9 anamorphic conversion)?