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#708772
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Star Wars OT & 1997 Special Edition - Various Projects Info (Released)
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I really can't thank you guys enough times, so here's another THANK YOU! :)

Question: what are you guys using to print out the cover art?  My color laser printer is long gone, and I'd like a high-quality print out to store the discs (burned to M-Disc BD, FTW!) in.  I'm guessing FedEx Office won't touch it due to copyright fears?

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#704481
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Star Wars OT & 1997 Special Edition - Various Projects Info (Released)
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I'd like to send a big THANK YOU to dark_jedi, You_Too and all involved in this project. I've been able to watch SW77 a couple of times now, and I am very impressed.  The bonus feature of before/after really makes you realize just how much hard work was put into this release.

The sound is particularly impressive.  JW's score is just so marvelously conveyed in this version.

Yes, there is an occasional bit of aliasing, but when compared to the 2006 GOUT DVDs, I'd say it's 90% eliminated.  I'd love to know what technical process was used to reduce/eliminate the aliasing?  I came here in 2006 in attempts to correct the aliasing myself, and upscale the GOUT DVDs to anamorphic.  I succeeded in the anamorphic part, but never got anywhere with the aliasing.  And the color work done is quite the feat!

Also, how did you guys get so much damn detail out of the original source?  So impressive.

I have downloaded but not watched the 97SE, yet.  What was the source for this one?

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#532370
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Star Wars OT & 1997 Special Edition - Various Projects Info (Released)
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Pennsylvania Jones said:

Well, Dark_Jedi is retiring from creating new DVDs.  You're going to have to ask someone else.

I can appreciate that.  I'm sure I'd be burned out too, if I saw them even half the times he watched 'em!

I'm just trying to understand where/if there is room for improvement.  I am no expert in video editing software, but correcting gamma would seem to be one of the easier tasks.

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#532289
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Star Wars OT & 1997 Special Edition - Various Projects Info (Released)
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I had more time this weekend to watch the three Dark_Jedi v3 DVDs.  I'm still impressed by the quality, and enjoyed them very much.

The only other piece of constructive criticism I have revolves around gamma/black levels.  Actually, I think black levels are fine, but gamma is off.  This makes the picture appear too dark in the 10-40IRE range.

It will be interesting to compare these to the upcoming official Blu-rays.  Although those will have faults of their own, they should be mastered with the appropriate levels and gamma curves.

Dark_Jedi, if you have any comments about the reference you used for setting the gamma, I would be interested in learning more.  Just to make sure everything was set up properly on my end, I spent 3 hours on Saturday (re)calibrating my plasma for grayscale and a 2.2 gamma curve.  The darkness I noticed in the DVDs did not change.  I actually didn't need any gamma recalibration, I was just verifying measurements via Chroma5 meter and CalMAN software.

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#531138
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Star Wars OT & 1997 Special Edition - Various Projects Info (Released)
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dark_jedi said:

Thanks for the comments, but all that you mentioned is on the 06 DVD's and the LD's and even has some on the 1997 SE LD's, that is why I say over and over on the BD25 release that this Set is NOT for everyone, you will not be interested in it because the same flaws of the DVD do carry over, there is no miracle cure for these sources, it is what it is unfortunately, there is only so much filtering that can be done with this, which is to bad actually, of course I would like to make a perfect 1080P Blu-ray version of the Untouched Original Trilogy, but that is just not going to happen, not with what we have to work with, but I can live with my BD's until hopefully GL eventually restores and makes a proper release, hopefully.

Thanks again for the comments, you might want to check out Harmy's mostly de specialized versions, those might be more in what you are looking for.

I appreciate the tip about Harmy's versions.  However, I'm quite certain I can live with the anomalies in the source material in your versions.  I figure if I'm gonna watch something with even *a few* changes in order to get more pristine video, I might as well watch the upcoming official Blu-rays.  I'm kind of a all-or-nothing fellow.

If there's even a 10% improvement in PQ in your BDs, I'm still absolutely interested in them.  Please PM me!

Also, I should revise my "grain" comment in regards to ANH.  There's only a few instances where it looks like too much was removed.  And that may not be your doing.  I'd have to check my GOUT DVDs to compare.  The Vader "Where is the ambassador" scene in ANH, R2/C3PO in the escape pod and Vader's initial meeting and conversation with Leia, all seem to have a lack of grain or artifacts of DNR.  Most of the rest of the time, the grain has a good balance.

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#531089
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Star Wars OT & 1997 Special Edition - Various Projects Info (Released)
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I had a chance to download and watch ANH and TESB.

Both were very good, the best I've seen as far as "untampered with" goes.  For ANH, I could still see some aliasing.  It is of course more noticeable in the early scenes, especially on C3PO and R2.  The land speeder side grills also make this anomaly more obvious.  Is there any source that doesn't have the aliasing burned into the image?  I think correction efforts are still quite nice, and have reduced or eliminated 90% of it.  ANH also has a fair amount of edge enhancement or halos around dark objects.  Again, likely present on all non-altered sources.  I no longer have the original LDs to compare against.  It is also obvious where grain reduction occurs.  Sometimes it appears a bit too heavy, such as on Vader during the first 5 minutes.  In many other scenes it is used to good effect.  Grain not eliminated, and plenty of detail still intact. 

 

ESB looks even better, grain looks nice.  Still some aliasing, but I based on the GOUT DVDs, it was never as bad as ANH ever was.  The colors on TESB are good, but at times it does seem too dark, especially during the Han Solo carbonite scene.

I definitely don't want to come across as too critical.  Far from it!  I feel very fortunate to get to experience these, and truly appreciate all the hard work that went into them.

Great job on the sound!  All the tracks I sampled were good. Absolutely no complaints there.  Looking forward to uncompressed versions if/when we get the BD versions of these editions.

 

My playback path is OPPO BDP-95 through Denon AVP-A1HDCI(A) processor.  My display is 60" Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-151FD that is fully calibrated.

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#530614
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Star Wars OT & 1997 Special Edition - Various Projects Info (Released)
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Hello again,

I love reading about the work that went into the v3 versions.  I also notice that the BD-25 versions are not yet uploaded, but some people are commenting as if they have downloaded/seen them?  Any ETA on when they'll be up?

In the meantime, I would love a PM with invite info to myspleen.  I would be happy to seed 24/7.

 

Thanks,

Sam 

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#260600
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Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
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Originally posted by: Doctor M
Just a heads up. I was working on another project where the source was "progressive" film but there were still bad deinterlace artifacts.
It was easy to clean and I thought you all might want to give it a go with your GOUT DVDs.

KernelDeint(order=0)

It's a motion based deinterlacer for true video source. Although the material is already deinterlaced the filter can still remove any of the comb pattern left behind.


Interesting! I think I'll give this a try.
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#249069
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Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
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Originally posted by: iRantanplan
Originally posted by: SamS
So, no one has tackled or solved the aliasing/jaggy problem in ANH?


I think there was some discussion about this on page 8 with a suggestion of a avs filter that seems to work.


Yeah, but I could never get any confirmation that it actually worked. Before and after screen shots would be helpful. Also, no clear way to do the fix(?) with DVD Rebuilder Pro.

Would anyone be able to revisit the subject and help me tackle?

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#248683
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Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
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Originally posted by: Hal 9000
How exactly do I setup DVD Rebuilder Pro to convert to anamorphic? I tried it with "no compression" mode but the end result was 100% identical to what I started with.


You go into Settings, then Options, then AVS Options, then AVS Expert Options, then "Convert from LB 4:3 to 16:9". Check which video titles you want it applied to.

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#248632
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Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
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Originally posted by: Hal 9000
So if I just get the DVD onto the hard drive via DVDShrink and run it through DVDRebuilder Pro with the "convert to anamorphic" checked.... it should be okay?



Yep. You may want to go in and just pick the main movie title to be converted to anamorphic. The menus are fine. Not sure what would happen if you converted the entire disc.
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#247450
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Letterboxed to anamorphic video conversion
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Originally posted by: 88keyz
Originally posted by: SamS
Sure. A few frames after the image I'm posting, you can see aliasing on the right had side edge of the star destroyer. Also, upon the first appearances of R2 adn 3PO on the Tantive, you can see the jagged edges on R2's blue sections and 3PO's shoulders.


I really need an example of the exact frame that you are looking for because if mine doesn't have the aliasing you're talking about then I won't be able to see it. If you can post an example screenshot or two of the frames your want me to post then I will be happy to do so.



I don't have a way to capture the exact frames (the other image was borrowed). It is really obvious in the scenes I described. The aliasing/jagged edges are everywhere!
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#247294
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Letterboxed to anamorphic video conversion
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Originally posted by: 88keyz
I've already completed my anamorphic conversion of the GOUT, is there a screenshot that you would like to see of mine so that you can verify my method? Just let me know.



Sure. A few frames after the image I'm posting, you can see aliasing on the right had side edge of the star destroyer. Also, upon the first appearances of R2 adn 3PO on the Tantive, you can see the jagged edges on R2's blue sections and 3PO's shoulders.

http://www.aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/resized/GOUT-NTSC-r-002.jpg
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#247208
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Letterboxed to anamorphic video conversion
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Well, my overnight project encoding with DVDrb Pro and DGDecode/Index yielded some funky results. My audio was at least 20 minutes delayed from my video! And the worst part, the jaggies were still in the picture

88kyez, can you verify that your method posted above removes the shimmering and diagonal-line artifacts from the source? I've had no problems making my video anamorphic, I just want to get rid of those distracting jaggies from the end result.