jephyork, I just heard back from my friend and she said she no longer has anything on Xena or Hercules. It was worth a try!
pittrek, thank you, I am aware of the Star Wars and Star Trek releases continually leaving out the previous releases extras. I think I’ve given up on Star Wars releases. It’s insane that every release has a different version of the film. Endless tinkering is maddening to me as well. I don’t watch them as much as I’d like to because seeing the differences when they come up are just too jarring for me. 1977-1983 are definitive for me, particularly A New Hope.
As for Speilberg, I don’t remember exactly, but in interviews on the lasers, he first glows about how the studio allowed him to add things he always wanted in the original, then on the next one he says he hated to do it. He’s blatantly dishonest about the making of that movie. I saw it in 1977 also and that version is permanently imprinted in my mind. Even the few seconds he added to the theatrical version in the 1990 Criterion Laserdisc box stands out as a distraction to me.
I forgot to mention that I am also a fan of classic Doctor Who. We had some of the Pertwee years in Chicago long before the Tom Baker years. I have many of the home video releases as well.
I don’t think that the Hamill material you mentioned is what I have. When I come across that tape, I’ll let you know.
pittrek, I’m glad I have the ST:30th. I will try and transfer it soon and upload a screengrab. Thanks so much for all the careful attention you all have paid to my sometimes inadequate posts and knowledge.
friedcamera, thank you so much. I was hoping to find someone that would be interested in the FTF material. I will revisit the tapes and make sure I save and transfer it one of these days. Please do keep me in mind for a copy of the Logan’s Run tape, we can figure out logistics later.
SilverWook, yes, I have the edited TV movies and saw the old Galen ones here in Chicago when they came out, but they aired before I had a recorder, in 1981. I have those intros separately, but they are also in horrible quality. Thanks for thinking of that for me!
friedcamera, I would LOVE to see that “restored” cut of “Logan’s Run”, if it ever happens. There are TONS of material on my “X-Files” VHS’ that were never released, including reviews, FOX promos, box office results, local station interviews/promos, entertainment shows segments, etc. I taped everything that I could that aired in the weeks prior to and subsequent weeks after release for all of my main projects (ST, POTA, etc.) There are 4, I believe, full tapes of material and I may have made note cards detailing the contents. I’d have to look and check. If there are, I can scan them for you.
Generally speaking, for those special projects, I taped segments from the morning shows, any network specials, news shows, cable specials, local affiliates, cable media reports, Entertainment Tonight/Access Hollywood type shows, Siskel & Ebert and other review shows and segments from just about anything else that aired on television.
JayArgonaut, no, sorry, I don’t have anything on video from B5.
I also have a VHS (recorded off-air) with the following listed on it:
“The Force Returns: Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition”, 1997, from the Sci-Fi Channel, 23:30 minutes
“Star Wars-An MTV Movie Special”, 1997, 21 minutes
“Larry King Live: Jodie Foster”, “Contact”, July 1997, 41:26 minutes
“Making of Contact”, 22:45 minutes
pittrek, I just looked at a tape that has been sitting RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY NOSE, and on it is the “Star Trek: 30 Years & Beyond” 1996 LIVE UPN special, running time of 1:31:00. I put it in and it looks EXTREMELY good. I assume that this is the one you’re looking for? Ted Danson hosted and the v/o said it was “Live from Hollywood”.
Also on this tape I have listed the following:
“Hollywood’s Aliens & Monsters” (TMP/TWOK/Abyss/ID4, etc.), 1997, 17 min
“S.T.Experience” Beginning 1997 (vc) ad
“ST: Borg” (vc) ad
Persis Khambatta death from Fox News Channel
"Ent. Weekly: “ST Encore”, 32 years, pre-STIX
Forrest DeKelley death: from WGN/ABC/WFLD/MSNBC
“Time and Again”: ST Con from 2/25/1976 on NBC and “Today”, 9/16/1976
“Today”: ST Smithsonian Exhibit, 2/27/1992 and “Time and Again”: Tom Snyder w/ Roddenberry, 3/21/1979
I can’t remember exact details as to what is included in these programs, but this should give you an idea of the kind of things I recorded. As for ST, often I would have several VCR’s going on at the same time to capture interviews, etc. from each network.
Don’t get old… 😉
friedcamera, I wish I had that “Logan’s Run” version! I fell in love (or something!), with Jenny Agutter when that came out and so looked forward to the TV series, only to be incredibly disappointed! I still have a bunch of articles, etc. on the TV show, too. At least they put that series out on DVD! Sorry I couldn’t help, but if you’re interested in the TV series, please let me know.
By the way, does anyone out there have any of the old “Episode Guides” magazines? They almost exclusively featured episode guides from all manner of series, particularly science fiction/fantasy, but other genres. They covered a lot of shows that are extremely difficult to find to this day and regularly had features and tons of cool photos to go along with them. I have a bunch, many that I don’t need and have been trying to sell at conventions, etc.
Today, June 18, is Superhero Saturday in Whiting, Indiana, a stone’s throw from Chicago. They feature all manner of comic, superhero, science fiction, etc. events and seller. If anyone’s around…
Hi. Please feel free to ask about anything I might have. I can’t remember it all, so asking sometimes prods the memory! Unfortunately, I no longer have any of my DS9 originally recorded tapes. I always edited them down anyway, so any other show’s promos would have been edited out. A very good friend of mine just sold her entire collection of…I think it was “Highlander”(?) on VHS, which included tons of bonus fan tapes, etc. I will check with her, as she may have some Xena or Hercules tapes as well. She still has a bunch of fantasy tapes, so please ask if you’re looking for anything else.
Do you have a “Half Price Books” or similar store near you? They often have things, including entire collections from the things talked about on here.
I also have things from “Beauty and the Beast” (CBS 1987-1990), if anyone’s interested.
Thanks so much for the quick and informative reply. I think it’s great that there are dedicated people trying to preserve these “lost” pieces of history. I think it’s shameful that creators/companies often don’t make an effort to re-release things that were put out originally. I know it’s often due to “copyrights”, “Contractual Obligations” and of course, money, but if it was out once, it ought to be released again. I especially hate it when, for instance, extras are not carried over to an updated release. So, good luck on all your efforts. Don’t even get me started on Lucas and his endless tinkering of “Star Wars”. I want exactly what I saw in 1977, and in better quality than Laserdisc…
Have you ever compared what Spielberg said about “CE3K” in the Laserdisc releases for the original cut and the longer version? He’s completely dishonest about why he made the longer version, it’s sad. I can’t remember if his remarks carried over to any of the DVD or BD releases.
When the original “Planet of the Apes” films and television series were originally broadcast on network television in the early 1970’s, way before the advent of home video, I would record the dialogue off the TV onto cassettes and listen to them. That was the only way to enjoy your favourite things until their next transmission.
I can also relate to your efforts in preserving things as they were originally released. Decades ago I taped the POTA TV series when they became a series of 2 hour movies and then added that missing footage to the run when they appeared in their original form on cable, though heavily edited! Remember, I did this all without the aid of any computer programs, just linking VCR’s together.
I’m very glad that I’ve saved all the material I taped over the last 33 years, as I figured it may be lost forever if someone didn’t save it. Being a huge ST fan, I tried to tape everything I could when each movie came out, often running several VCR’s at once.
I totally understand the “nothing to see her…move along…nudge, nudge, wink, wink…” aspect as well!
I forgot to add “Logan’s Run” to my faves and collection list. I wish the later formats of many films released on Laserdisc incorporated all the printed material extras that were on them. Some of the supplements were extensive. I also have three or four VHS tapes of extras from the 1st “X-Files” movie and 2 tapes from the awful “Planet of the Apes” (2001) movie. Anyone interested in those?
As I recall, the extras on the “Star Wars vs Star Trek” were NOT on the STV DVD extras disc. I haven’t seen it in years, but remember being blown away when they showed up. I even made a note of it somewhere. I’d have to see it again to be sure.
As I’ve indicated, I’ve done all of my recording over the years on the (then) popular home video formats. I am not computer savvy at all and haven’t transferred anything to a hard drive before. My question is, would it be best for you to have the original source when you’re doing your preserving? I assume it would, as the best that I can do is copy them to DVD’s at XP speed for the very best DVD quality. Does putting them directly onto a computer skip a whole generation of loss in quality? If so, we’ll have to figure out a way for you guys to get my originals.
Living in the Chicago area I often find the strangest things. Just today I came across a still sealed package of Beta L-750 tapes at a thrift store! Crazy. Also, the controversy surrounding Lucas’ museum is heating up again here. It just may end up in our city after all. Another hideous piece of crap to sit right next to the abomination that has become Soldier Field, home of the Chicago Bears, right on our beautiful lakefront. Oh well…
Oh, and you’re not being greedy, I still get excited when I see/hear of things that I love that I’ve never seen before! I’ll start documenting what I have it greater detail.
I may be wrong, but I think I also have something taped off-air that featured Mark Hamill hosting a Star Wars or science fiction themed program. Any ideas on what that could have been? I have it somewhere… Yes, I think I do have that Voyager program that’s from Youtube, thanks. It came on right before the premiere in 1995 and mine should be in FAR better quality. I’ll let you know.
I also still have my off air recordings of “Harsh Realm”, “Starman” and other things that have original bumpers, etc. that didn’t make it onto official releases. I was very into “Starman”, and was involved with trying to get in renewed, along with the “Spotlight Starman” group. I have many of their original newsletters, etc. I even won an autographed (Robert Hays) cookbook they produced!
Thanks again.
A few points: I do have the ST 25th on both VHS and LD. I no longer have any of the other LD’s previously mentioned. Forgive the ignorance, but since I found this site from a search, I have no idea what you all mean by “preserving” things. Are you a loosely affiliated group of people that work together trying to save video onto digital formats? Are there groups dedicated to particular projects? Also, are you looking for video only, or printed media as well? I have tens of thousands of pages of printed media as well as recorded media and am happy to share whatever what I can.
I believe I have a 30th Anniversary ST special that was on TV, is that you are speaking of? I know I don’t have one on LD. I may have “The Star Trek Saga: From One Generation to the Next” recorded off-air, but I am not positive.
I have “Journey’s End” on VHS only. I also have, “William Shatner’s ST Memories”, “Inside Star Trek: The Real Story”, “DS9: BTS” and “William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy: The 25 Year Mission”, all on VHS.
The “Star Wars vs Star Trek: The Rivalry Continues” DVD had some previously unseen outtakes from “Star Trek V” and perhaps other material on it as well. It was a very strange release. I have it but haven’t seen it in quite some time.
I don’t have any of the MTV ST Logs.
I’m almost positive that I have an excellent Beta recording of “Star Trek Voyager: Inside the New Adventures” that aired on UPN.
Do you have copies of the “Star Wars Trilogy: The Definitive Collection” on Laserdisc? If memory serves, you would have to have several copies of the video content for each of the several audio commentaries, if some of them overlapped, which I believe they did. I have my box and would have to check the listings to be sure.
Also, has anyone put the many deleted scenes from “A New Hope” that were on the “Making Magic” cd-rom? I can’t get my copy to work on Windows 10, but I think they were excellent.
If you could let me know what, if any, of the titles I mentioned above are of interest to any group(s), I will make a note of it. Thanks.
Wow, I do remember that. I will make a note of it to check. Just FYI, I have articles, all types of media, etc. going back to around 1968. Subjects include: 2001/2010, POTA, CE3K, James Bond, The Prisoner, MASH, and many other science fiction and fantasy films and television series. So if anyone on this forum is looking for anything specific, don’t hesitate to ask. If I would leave this mortal coil tomorrow, my wife would make sure the recyclers would find a lot in the alley!
That truly is hilarious! I’ve never seen it before and obviously the artist never saw anything related to Star Wars, either. That would scare the crap out of kids, no, wait, adults as well!! Thanks for posting that. Though I never specifically collected many Star Wars things, (my first loves are Planet of the Apes (1968) and the original Star Trek series and films), I have quite a few related things in my collection that go back to the first movie’s premiere. I still have some magazines, including the original movie program that I got at the cinema, so when I come across related material I’ll set them aside. I have to find new homes for a lot of my things, as my basement looks like the final scene from “Raiders of the Lost Ark”…
Here’s a scan of an ad I have for you from People magazine in 1985.
I remembered that I had these two Star Wars unopened VHS tapes sitting in a box that had things in it that I used to sell at science fiction conventions. Are these of any value to anyone? Have the contents been released on a DVD or Blu-ray? I also have a Laserdisc of the other picture, the ST 25th Anniversary Special. I don’t think it was ever released on DVD(?)
Compiling an accurate list may take quite some time, but I will work on it when time permits. I used to have several VCRs, then later DVD Recorders, going all the time, so I did capture quite a few things off-air that were never re-broadcast. I also have some Japanese laserdisc boxsets, so I know that a lot was never released commercially for the home video market. I’ll see what I can do…
Yes, I tried to never record anything I wanted to keep in either LP or EP (SLP) speed. All of my Sony VHS machines always stated that “Playback of tapes recorded in LP mode cannot be guaranteed”. They couldn’t record in it, either. I still have a JVC Super VHS deck that I use with some tapes I recorded on it. I started with tapes from 1977, with my personal first recordings beginning in 1983. I started with Beta and was so disappointed when I had to incorporate VHS into my life. It was an abysmal format, but Sony slit their own throats by not licensing their technology to other makers like JVC did. It was always a crap shoot with whether a network or cable company consistently delivered a stereo broadcast but I always had stereo decks since they became available. I do recall sell-through Super VHS titles of movies including “Raiders of the Lost Ark”, but not any Star Trek titles. I know I don’t have “The Shining” or the Ewok movies on Beta, sorry. I know I have some Star Wars related television programs on VHS, however. I used to have every Star Trek series on Beta, but tossed them when the DVD’s started becoming available.
SilverWook, actually the 4 hour speed on a VHS was LP, EP was the lousy quality 6 hour speed (on a T-120), unless I’m mistaken. My SF ST:SE VHS’ are all recorded in SP on T-160 Hi-Fi tapes. If they were transmitted in stereo, then mine should be as well, as I have always been a stickler for stereo recordings. Utilizing a flying erase head also keeps transitions and breaks seamless, without the annoying “rainbow lines” effect on regular VHS recordings. To the best of my knowledge, only the Beta HF-870D model had a Digital Picture feature. It would say so prominently on your machine if it’s present. Yes, I have hundreds, if not more, hours of recordings on Beta tapes, mostly documentaries, a few tv shows and clips/reviews/interviews, etc. of science fiction movies and tv shows, all recorded since the early 1980’s. Is there anything in particular you’re looking for? Thanks again for all of your help!
Thanks. Yes, I have already transferred the ST II Beta to a DVD using a Toshiba DVD recorder, in SP speed. The DVD is where the photos I posted came from. I also use several other Panasonic DVD recorders, some that can record on DVD-DL discs. I don’t have any type of computer video capture device and due to recent problems with my crap Dell laptop I can’t use any video editing programs. I had to buy an external DVD drive to complete a recent transfer of 23 Beta/VHS/Hi-8/Digital8 tapes and making around 70 copies of the finished DVD’s for a school district project. I don’t think I could have the SF ST:SE videos done before the end of summer, though. And unless I can get my computer fixed, they would all have to be directly recorded from VHS to DVD’s. Would either you or SilverWook happen to live anywhere in the Illinois/Indiana region? Thanks again. I’m glad that these tapes that have sitting around for nearly twenty years (carefully stored!) can be of use to fellow fans.
Thank you! You really CAN teach an old man new tricks. I’m grateful for the help. Can I now edit my post again and delete the links, or will all the pictures go away from my post if I do? To everyone else, STOP LAUGHING!! I grew up in a galaxy close, close by, but was always intimidated by these computer thingys. I couldn’t even find the power button on my TRS 80… By the way, in 1977 I was seeing this movie you may have heard of, “Star Wars”, at my local cinema 9 times. END OF TRANSMISSION…
SilverWook, thank you. Is this correct? If not, could you please give me exact instructions? I appreciate your patience and time and wish I was more knowledgeable! I hope that pittrek finds the pictures suitable as well. These pics are all taken from a DVD I made of my original Beta recording, in SP. The Beta would still be a little better in quality than the DVD copy, of course. Also, the Beta machine I have utilizes a Digital Picture enhancement and that circuitry cannot be turned off. All in all, I think the quality is very good.Does it measure up to what’s already out there? The other picture is of my original Sci-Fi Channel ST:SE videotapes.
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Thank you for the welcome! Could you please let me know if I posted these correctly? If I didn’t, I’ll try it again. http://postimg.org/image/60ampehkr/, http://postimg.org/image/vtfl6eykb/, http://postimg.org/image/livpqyd17/, http://postimg.org/image/hts8m8yuz/, http://postimg.org/image/s98260rqz/, http://postimg.org/image/fm62yqgzf/, http://postimg.org/image/q2zz6ak57/. Thanks!
I just realized, and please forgive the ignorance, how do I post a screen capture on here?! I’m obviously NOT of this century. Or the previous one…
Thanks for the quick reply! I’ve never posted a comment on any type of forum, so please be patient with me and if I do something wrong, I gladly accept constructive criticism. As for TUC, no, the theatrical cut was never released “officially”. However, I bought a VHS copy at a convention before the video came out (1992). I haven’t seen it in a while, but I believe it looks very good and doesn’t have any annoying logos or timecode markers all over it. I will check. I will try to provide you with a screen grab of the ABC TWOK cut soon. I also am in contact with the SciFi Channel ST SE group on Facebook. I understand that a couple of their members have posted some of those segments online and have seen others. I will try to get my copies transferred to DVD this summer. I will keep you informed.