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aalenfae said:

As long as people are posting cuts and such, I thought I'd post what I just finished last night - a mockup for Anakin's ghost appearing personally to Luke, and not with Obi-Wan and Yoda:
http://vimeo.com/36883170

Ok that gave me chills... I like the new and original thinking. It reminded me a bit of that Star Wars Tales comic where young Luke and young Anakin briefly met. That one gave chills too....

dark_jedi said:

Thank you, but it is not just me, my partner You_Too is just as deep into this as I am, it is SO nice having a full fledged partner this time around, but he is seeing how painstakingly tedious this is\will be, and there are times when you wonder, "why in the hell am I even doing this" I spent most of my day just preparing a script and rendering the bad frames to fix them in SW, plenty of times I just wanted to walk away and fire up my Xbox lol and relax, but I stuck with it and now it is done and ready for encode.

But Empire, oh boy, Empire, this is going to be a real treat, or I mean a pain in the ass!

plus I am building yet another PC, I am building my 11 year old Son a very nice Gaming PC like mine.

Ah, didn't mean to give You_Too the rough side of the pineapple! Thanks to You_Too as well! Anyways, I think you hit the nail on the head with "why in the hell am I even doing this." Anyone who has ever started a project has reached that point. Flat out, it's because we love Star Wars. In all of our whining and bitching about George Lucas and Lucasfilm and the Blu-Ray release and the EU and the Prequels (etc.), I think people are too apt to forget just how good the movies are (I don't even mind Jedi that much either). Flat out, they are phenomenal. I hadn't watched them in a while, so this past weekend I broke out your V3 DVDs and watched them all, and despite how many times I have seen them, I was blown away. Those movies were groundbreaking. It is unbelievable how well the effects have held up. Star Wars is over 30 years old, and the space fights still do it for me. Some of my housemates ended up watching with me, and it turned out that two of them had never seen the originals. They had never actually seen Han shoot first, or heard Yub Nub. Not to be cliche, but it was somewhat magical watching them get to experience the same thing that people in theaters did all those years ago. Just incredible.

That's great to hear DJ! I can't believe this much success has been had by using the GOUT. It makes me a little sad to see how much success true fans are having with such a sub-par source, because it just reminds me what Lucasfilm could have done themselves. Oh well. At least we have fans like you picking up the slack. I think lost in all of the nitty-gritty technical discussions and occasional bickering, we are all ecstatic that you have taken on this project, and very appreciative for the time and effort you have put in. Thank you very much for the hard work! I can't wait to see the results

Well, no one else has replied so I'll chime in. Thanks for the work man! Subtitles are one of the little things that I feel fan edits / preservations should have to add a feeling of legitimacy, so these should fit the bill. 

Awesome thanks! I've been looking forward to these as well

Thanks for all the hard work! We appreciate it. PM coming soon..

Thanks to everyone who is volunteering to put these up for download! I have been looking years for these but haven't seen them around anywhere; I can't wait to get them

^^Seconded. Thank you so much for all of the hard work you have been putting in on this set DarkJedi. I cannot wait to see these. Your efforts truly are appreciated

It's the middle of the night where I am, and I have no business typing out a reply at this point, but I'll throw in my two cents. I discovered this site, when, as a pretty young kid, I wanted the original Star Wars trilogy on DVD. Call that 2002-ish, maybe even 2001. I started getting good at the internet, and researched pretty heavily the bootleg options available, but for a 12 year old kid buying things online was pretty hard, particularly bootleg things. During the course of this research, I came across the site, and the rest is history. I don't think I registered until a few years later, I think 04-ish, bu I'd been lurking quite a while before that. To be honest, I originally thought all you guys were nutjob's, caring so much about getting the original versions. This is probably due in large part to the fact that all I ever grew up with was the 97 versions. That was all I knew. To be even more brutally honest, I did not see the original versions until the GOUT was released. Despite all this, I still hung around the forum, checking in regularly. There was one specific turning point I do remember - when I was reading a family friend's original Star Wars picture book, with all pictures and such pre-SE. I saw a picture in there of the Death Star, and it just hit me then, movie audiences had never seen something like that before. Star Wars really was a game changer, and right then I decided it damn well better be preserved. And I have stuck around ever since. I visit a little less frequently now, and haven't posted in a while, but if I can help I normally try to. I used to be pretty good at capturing online streams, but that talent has long since been lost. I also was working a long time on my own preservation project (the 97 VCDs), and couldn't wait to share it here, but sadly real life took over and I never completed it.

Anyways, the bottom line is that the people here are f***ing champs. They flat out know their shit. The knowledge pool is incredible here. I can follow most of the technical discussions decently, but some of the members here take it to a new level. There are also enough ongoing projects to keep my interest as well - namely Adywan's Revisited works, the 97 Superset (sadly RIP and dead I believe), and DarkJedi's GOUT cleanup efforts / 97 release (hopefully he releases it soon). I just rewatched his GOUT converted to Blu Ray sample again, and HOT DAMN that looks good. I am speechless, and cannot wait for that set. It'll truly be a treat. All said and done, this forum is awesome.

PS: for what it's worth, I like Star Wars better than ESB. By a pretty sizable margin as well 

Best of luck DAYV. Couldn't donate too much but I did what I could!

Mariano Rivera is a machine

As it so happens, I do have a secret stash of Star Wars pics. Knock yourself out buddy:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F2N90LWY

Fan Edit Name: Sozin’s Comet: The Movie [Not set in stone]

Stated Goal: To take the last four episodes of the excellent TV series Avatar: The Last Airbender and combine them into a movie format. This will primarily be done through cutting the episode specific intros and credits, with a few minor cuts.

Program Using: Sony Vegas 8

Original Film Name: Sozin’s Comet Part 1: The Phoenix King; Sozin’s Comet Part 2: The Old Masters; Sozin’s Comet Part 3: Into the Inferno; Sozin’s Comet Part 4: Avatar Aang

Film Studio Name: Nickelodeon

Retail Releases Used:

- Avatar The Last Airbender - Book 1 Water, Vol. 1 (http://www.amazon.com/Avatar-Last-Airbender-Book-Water/dp/B000BNX4NQ)

- Avatar The Last Airbender - Book 3 Fire, Vol. 4 (http://www.amazon.com/Avatar-Last-Airbender-Book-Fire/dp/B0017VG67C)

Original Release Date: July 19, 2008 [TV release]

Original Runtime: Approx 24min / Episode [24 x 4 = 96min]

Fanedit Release Date: N/A

New Runtime: Approx 90min

Amount of Time Cut / Added: Approx 6min Cut

INTENTION AND EDITING DETAILS: I love Avatar: The Last Airbender, and believe it to be one of, if not the best, TV shows of the last several years. I was introduced to it at college, and this summer went through all the episodes in order, and was enthralled. This summer I also became much more immersed in the Fan-Edit realm, having now seeing both of MagnoliaFan’s and The Phantom Editor’s takes on Episodes I and II. I had flitted with the idea of trying my hand at fan-editing, but believed I did not have the knowhow nor the time to do so properly. However, my neighbors and I are going to make a summer movie, and I realized I was rusty as hell with Vegas and would have to do something for me to re-learn the program.

I also noticed that several TV shows went out with a movie. For example, Even Stevens, Cowboy Bebop (I believe) and Justice League (the original, not unlimited). This last one is my key inspiration. For the original Justice League DCAU series, the last three episodes of the series were called “Starcrossed”. Before all the episodes were released in a box set, certain episodes were made available on DVD. I enjoyed “Starcrossed” so much that I bought the DVD of it for $7 bucks online, and haven’t regretted it at all. What I loved about this release, though, was that it was not presented in the original episodic format; rather the DVD was actually a movie with no true signs other than my memory of where the episodes had started and finished. There was a special intro and credits and everything.

Bearing all this in mind, and noticing each episode of Avatar was about 22-23 minutes without credits or pre-episode summary, I realized the four part series finale of Avatar could also (hypothetically) be cut into a perfectly lengthed animated movie. My original, original goal was simply to cut the episodes together. I had anticipated this fan editing stuff was harder than it looked, and wanted to start small. Two things happened: 1) A good friend of mine who through my incessant pestering finally consented to watch the series (and loved it for the record) had a moment in the finale he absolutely despised and though should be gone, and while I wasn’t as vehement, I also thought it could use trimming. And then 2) I saw on my own a cut / rearrangement I wanted to make. (Both will be detailed in the cut list below). Realizing this, I decided I wouldn’t be opposed to making small, small edits (again I wanted to stay within my skill range). So there is slightly more than just splicing the episodes together. Another underlying tenant, though, was I wanted to retain the feel of the series.

Changes List: (s indicate more detailed reasons for the changes below the list)

Longer Intro

Edited title card now saying only “Sozin’s Comet”. No episode numbers or names

Spliced the first and second episodes together (cut out intro to second episode and credits to first episode)

Subtitled first instance of the Lion Turtle speaking (subtitle font mimics the distinctive Airbender font)

Spliced the second and third episodes together (cut out intro to third episode and credits to second episode)

Spliced the third and fourth episodes together (cut credits to third episode, intro to fourth episode AND a few seconds of the fourth episode beginning [ie the panning shot])

Subtitled second instance of the Lion Turtle speaking speaking (subtitle font mimics the distinctive Airbender font)

MAJOR CHANGE 1: Radically changed the post fight-meeting between Suki, Sokka, Toph, Aang and Ozai on top of the rock column. Ozai no longer speaks.

We now go directly from Zuko’s peace speech to the tea shop ending scene (tied to the last change listed below)

Changed first credits card to take out the “directed by” and inserting “edited by my name”

MAJOR CHANGE 2: The scene when Zuko confronts Ozai in prison is now the last thing. After the credits. The series ends with “Where. Is. My. Mother.”

I wanted the intro to be more special. This is why the first volume DVD is listed above in the retail releases; I used parts of the extended intro present only in episodes 1 and 2. The intro now is: “</span>**Water, Earth, Fire, Air. My grandmother used to tell me stories about the old days, a time of peace when the Avatar kept balance between the Water Tribes, Earth Kingdom, Fire Nation, and Air Nomads. But that all changed when the Fire Nation attacked. Only the Avatar mastered all four elements. Only he could stop the ruthless firebenders. But when the world needed him most, he vanished. A hundred years passed and my brother and I discovered the new Avatar, an airbender named Aang. And although his airbending skills are great, he still has a lot to learn before he’s ready to save anyone. But I believe Aang can save the world.” The intro has to be special for the series finale! I feel like it makes the series seem more full circle.

A major complaint I came across while researching online was that the Lion Turtle was too hard to understand. I initially blew this off, until I was watching with my neighbor and he couldn’t understand the Lion Turtle. So I just got an Avatar font look alike and subtitled all his lines. The Lion Turtle has some of the best lines and I don’t want anyone missing them. I’m still debating trying to do a voice over myself. I think I have the proper voice (hints of James Earl Jones), but I don’t think I have the proper equipment.<span style=“font-weight: normal;”>

This was just to make everything flow more like a movie. The third episode ended with Ozai releasing a huge fire blast right at the screen, so I cut right to the next shot of him hitting Aang’s rock ball. Ie, all that is lost is a panning shot of the Wulong Forest.

Basically, my friend didn’t want Ozai to do the whole thing where he can no longer sit up and just drools after Sokka calls him ‘Loser Lord’. Ozai was a badass super villain and we thought this really detracted from his character. Now, Sokka, Toph and Suki don’t insult Ozai (in Suki’s case try haha), and Ozai never speaks in this scene. I’m still toying around with keeping in his menacing sounding “I’m still alive”, but am unsure. I am completely open to suggestions on that one. As it stands, Ozai is just unconscious for this whole scene now, which actually works really well.

All four of the episodes weren’t directed by the same person, so instead of short shrifting any of the directors, I just took out the ‘Directed by” line and put “Edited by” and then my own name in. Had to give myself some credit haha

Ever since I saw the finale I thought this scene should have been last. What a great way to end the series. When I am an old and rich and famous movie director, EVERY single one of my movies will have a post credits scene. I declare that. You gotta reward the bros who stay for all the credits. My other thinking was that, by and far, the biggest, biggest complaint from fans online was that the character of Ursa really got shat on in the finale / whole series. This is my way of kinda mitigating that fact. You can’t really say she gets pwned if the last scene of the entire series centers around her.

So, I am completely open to suggestions. Both about anything else I should cut / change, and any other ideas of how to make the post fight meeting with Toph, Suki, Sokka, Aang and Ozai work without Ozai being a pussy.

As it stands right now, here is the order of that scene:

1. Toph, Sokka and Suki land. Sokka does his imitation of the fight.

2. Suki asks if Aang finished the Job

3. Aang explains energybending

4. Toph asks where he learned that

5. Aang says Lion Turtle

6. Toph comments on his crazy adventures. Boom. Scene’s over.

Problems:

1. Making the music work in my extended intro is a bitch

2. Whenever I am exporting out of Vegas, quality is dropping significantly

3. I want to make the credits more special but don’t know how. They already had some awesome new music, so that might be enough.
    

So please, please leave any comments or suggestions. I’d love them!

I'm not one to really call movies perfect, I think most have at least a thing or two that can be fixed. That being said, I really enjoyed the Prestige and don't really, on a personal level, think it needs to be changed, but by all means go for it! More power to you.

I did, however, just want to post to offer a word of warning: you have some pretty ambitious ideas there. Again, not necessarily a bad thing, but trust me, this fan-editing shit ain't so easy. Case in point, these past few days I have been working on just a personal fan-edit for myself, of which I thought would be rather easy to do so. Well, it isn't that easy. Just making simple cuts and rearrangements was stupidly hard, and I can't even really imagine trying to change around whole plot elements. This all culminated in a GREATLY increased appreciation for the talent and motivation that the great fan-editors possess (I'm looking at you Phantom Editor, MagnoliaFan, Adywan and ADigitalMan). Looking at your profile, I see you joined recently, but that doesn't really have any bearing on what skill level of editing you have. So all I'll say is simply to make sure you stay in your skill range, or you will get very frustrated. Very. Haha

So again, absolutely go for it. I don't want to discourage you at all, and despite the lack of responses so far, I think many others would be intrigued if you make good work on this front.

Lastly, of the four potential ideas you listed out, 3 and 4 are the best. I don't know how the hell you'd do them, but that's where your own creativity comes into play. Have at it

O and props on the USA pride avatar. Love it

@Uncanny Antman: See it's so close I can pretty much do that, but I would love to go that extra step and make it so I don't have to work and can just enjoy it and have it with continuity. 

@Doctor M: Don't be afraid to admit it, that show was legitimately awesome! And I'll be honest, Crisis wasn't that much of a disappointment, I think in large part because I could so easily imagine that it DID branch the regular and unlimited seasons.

I don't know much about the JLU... Do you have any particular scenes in mind?

Essentially it is late, I am tired, and I have not followed this forum as closely as I have in years past, so this post will be on the shorter side.

Depending on how much you know, basically here is the deal. There were two seasons of the regular Justice League TV show (I loved them, they were awesome). At the end of this show’s second season, Hawkgirl got temp-banned, and officially that series ended. It was continued with Justice League Unlimited. This essentially just had more characters, and wasn’t only focused on the main group. (Hawkgirl eventually came back).

So they had this idea. A movie to bridge the regular TV show and this new Unlimited TV show. For budget reasons, it was scrapped. It got resurrected, rewritten, and is now what you see as Crisis on Two Earths. (Correct me if I am wrong on anything here, I am writing off memory and what I have heard).  It is however, supposed to be unconnected in any way with the TV show (damn shame).

As I just watched it, however, it is painfully obvious that it was meant to bridge the two TV series. Hawkgirl is gone (with supposedly a reference to her still remaining, [not sure about that], but on the whole all mention of her completely gone). The Watchtower, which was destroyed in the regular TV show series two finale is being rebuilt in Crisis on Two Earths. The transporter thingies are being worked on (I guess they come into the Unlimited Series? Not sure on that one…)

Finally, Crisis on Two Earths ends with more members being recruited to the League, which is just the most blatant evidence I feel that it was supposed to bridge the two series, because Unlimited has far more members present in its League.

So that is the background. The idea I have is to do some fan-editing magic to basically undo the redos they did, and keep it fitting with the TV show and bridging the two series. I think this would be awesome, and make me far happier. I would love to see this done. The problem being that 1) I do not think I have the requisite skills 2) I do not think I have the requisite time, now that I am in college with the real-world looming (scary).

There are also problems:

1)The movie uses the white (Caucasian) Green Lantern. The TV show has the African American one. How the hell would this be fixed? If at all? Could the actual picture itself be edited to fix this?

2. Voices are different… Not too big a deal I guess?

3. How would more Hawkgirl references get worked in?

Things going for it:

1. All the built in similarities and tie ins

2. It’s animated… I suppose this would help, over real actors?

3. I really want to see this happen

Potential ideas I have:

1. Have flashbacks to the regular TV show season 2 finale (Starcrossed). Get some more Hawkgirl references in

2. Perhaps incorporate flashbacks to the TV show 2-parter named “Justice Lords” I believe. They are a very similar storyline, so a reference to it could be justified.

Man, this was really just a brain dump, I’m not sure if I made sense, but I just wanted to get ideas out, see if anyone had any other suggestions, and to see if anyone had any interest in attempting this.

So any thoughts?

Ja. Here they are:

ZIP, 2.18 MB

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4EG1HCYV

Knock yourself out; I think these are them after raiding my illustrious SW DVD Cover collection:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Y3CXQVNM

ZIP 18.7MB

I like this idea... I have a few thoughts

For whatever reason, the idea of one movie per BD25 just sounds much more appealing. Seems more like what you would be able to buy in a store.

Secondly, we have to consider though that Star Wars will probably come out officially on Blu Ray sometime in the future, so if we just keep the same versions, are we wasting our time? But on the flip side, like someone mentioned, if we try to change stuff like the endings and get rid of the additional crap, there really is no good source for those scenes, since they've never been in HD.

And lastly, idk, I personally feel like we just shouldn't write off menus and such. To me, probably the biggest thing about having an actual disc is that you get a menu, and I think they add a lot. But that is just my two cents

Dude. I really like those; I love the concept. My only comment would be (not like I'm one to talk and could do any better) is that there are pretty hard line transitions from where you put the characters together; like they kinda stick out and don't really blend in smoothely. Probably the biggest example I see is on the ESB one, the top of Luke's head against the black background, is a really hard, sharp, defined line that kinda sticks out to me. But like I said I couldn't do any better and they are great. I love 'em, great work

Max_Rebo, I just want to say thank you so much for doing this project. It is essentially the last project really of interest to me on OT.com (sad but true), and I have been closely following it. Any time I come here and see that this thread is back on the front page it makes me happy. The way I see it, is, that for the 77/80/83 versions, I have the GOUT, which is, contrary to many's beliefs, good enough for me. Then we have of course the 2004 versions. Missing has always been a viable preservation of the 1997 versions, which has always been a problem because that is what I grew up on. I was raised on that VHS box set, and it has been killing me that I haven't really been able to have a good copy. Also different than what a lot of people think is that, to me, the 1997 and 2004 versions are fairly different, enough that it is a big deal to me. So keep up the great work, we appreciate the time and effort, you are really doing a great job with it.

Publication order. Hands down. I could be more elaborate, but for all intents and purposes C3PX said almost everything I wanted to say. You keep so much more of the magic that way. The first time I read the series, it was unbelievable how, as I started closing out the series, Lewis tied everything in together so well. The one moment that stuck out for me was learning about what the Wardrobe was made of. It was at that point I really realized the scope of the series, and quite literally got one of the biggest cases of chills I can remember. It was eerie how it all fit together. My kids are definitely going to have them read to them in publication order. And in any case, The Last Battle is last, which is all that really matters.

Merry Christmas everyone! And yes, God bless us all.

Yeah np dude, video streams blow, especially the StarWars.com ones. They suck eggs

K I think I have the damn video I will try and get it up tonight but I am really tired so apologies if I don't get it up tonight. So little sleep lately

EDIT: K I got it will be up soon. I hope

EDIT 2: Uploading currently

EDIT 3: Well here you go ladies and gentlemen likely mostly gentlemen. This is a zip file with 1) The original FLV file in case you want to try converting it yourself 2) My conversion from FLV to an AVI file, for much easier viewing especially for non tech-savvy peoples and 3) A short NFO I wrote while half-asleep. Enjoy it:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=W7IA591Z

115.76 Megabytes

Nighty-night. I think I am going to try for at twelve hours of sleep tonight. Wish me luck.