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Mark Hamill in ESB.

I think it’s definitely contracted between Lucas and Disney to not release the OOT. No loyalty. Since 2012 there hasn’t been any official word spoken or written if/why they/they won’t release it. And that’s probably because they won’t endanger another shitstorm on Lucas - at least during his lifetime. Because that is going to happen when they tell us that he is the only reason.

There is nothing solved, and the conclusion is: what you are seeing or hearing is just the final result of general editing. It has nothing to do with the Lost Cut.

“There is too many of them!”

And there is indeed. My all-time favourites are always going to be:

• Vader’s redemption and throwing Palpatine down the shaft (without “Nooooo” of course).
• Binary Sunset
• Speeder Bike Chase
• The rebels flying into the second Death Star
• Luke and the force ghosts at the end of ROTJ (Shaw version)
• Wampa cave
• Asteroid chase
• Yoda in the swamplifting up Luke’s X-Wing

There is to add that I really love every dynamic scene between Luke, Han and Leia - right after they rescue Leia from her prison cell in ANH until Echo base after Luke wakes up.

Slavicuss said:

The new 4K set may prove to be as disappointing as the last two sets (2004 & 2011) for fans of the OUT.

At this point my only hope is that the quality of the SE is good enough to be used for fan edits or restoration. I even don’t care anymore if there are going to be more changes or not.

Z6PO said:

I seem to recall that at the time The Force Awakens was released, people were saying that they would have liked to see the old gang together. But thinking of it, in the original trilogy, Luke, Han & Leia aren’t that much together.

But at least they WERE together in the OT. Now that the three films of the ST are finished, that doesn’t even happen once. I think that’s the point some fans are angry about. With the old films (and the old EU over the past years) they established a fundamental friendship between the main protagonists. Now it seems they were just on for an adventure 30 years ago, and that’s it.

https://ew.com/movie-reviews/2019/12/18/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-review/

oojason said:

Roobyoo said:

I don’t know if this thread here is the right place, but I think I once saw fan edit covers of these old vhs covers (Digital Remastered THX Edition) somewhere here.

https://s19.directupload.net/images/191130/yatgyojv.png

Does anyone know if these covers still float somewhere around? I searched for them for quite some time now, but couldn’t find them in a decent quality.

The 1995 ‘Executor’ VHS tin box-set covers 😃 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKIWGE_1Aic)
 

The talented FrankT knocked up a superb set of these - which can be found here:-

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Franks-Star-Wars-DVDBD-Covers/id/47698/page/1
 

and I think HotRod may have knocked up a set too - quite some time ago - so it may be worth PMing him about that.
 

Nice! Thank you very much for the quick and helpful reply, oojason!

I don’t know if this thread here is the right place, but I think I once saw fan edit covers of these old vhs covers (Digital Remastered THX Edition) somewhere here.

https://s19.directupload.net/images/191130/yatgyojv.png

Does anyone know if these covers still float somewhere around? I searched for them for quite some time now, but couldn’t find them in a decent quality.

@DrDre: The grading is really great, I have to admit that.

joefavs said:

Is my mind playing tricks on me or does the main title sound a little fuller/richer in TFA? Could they have remixed the score?

I’m also noticing a lot more obvious grain than on the blu-ray.

Honestly that would be awesome. It was a real bummer when I was sitting in the midnight premiere of TFA back in 2015, only to get disappointed by the low opening theme. There was no energy behind the music like there is with the ROTJ opening theme, for example. Same goes with TLJ.

Thanks for the screenshots, Han Solo.

But man… that looks nothing like a 4k remaster. Just like another color grading.
The Solo/Greedo scene is like an abuse of an old rotten corpse, at that point. How many changes did they make to this scene until now?

Jar Jar never looked so good!

Thanks for the news, the samples already look amazing.

Talking about Mace Windu on Geonosis: In the scene when he goes straight to the balcony where Dooku and Fett are standing on, there always seemed to be something off with Windu in the shot where we see him from behind. Maybe my eyes are tricking me, but I just noticed recently that Windu may seem to be CGI. It’s just the way he looks and moves.

Maybe he should have represent a young version of or a possessed person by Palpatine, before McDiarmid said he would be on board for Episode 9.

LordZerome1080 said:

Michael Fastbender as a young Palpatine

Definitely him, but only as a new character.

Still no love for OT Aliens.

I don’t know if I should be happy about this. The last thing further SW movies need is the “Marvel flavour”. It already killed 7, 8 and Solo for me. At least we can all agree that he would respect old characters more than Johnson/Kennedy did.

Seeing that Jar Jar / Boss Nass screenshot, I’m afraid of seeing a 4k version of TPM. Some CGI shots didn’t aged well.

I made different experiences, up until now. People I know, family members and friends are always calling the movies by their episode titles when they talk about the Star Wars saga films. Not “The Empire Strikes Back”, not “the third movie from the Prequels”, … they call them Episode 1 - 8 (9). So from a marketing point of view, it would have been consequent to finish the Skywalker saga with episode titles and let them stand as what they are: one big story about the Skywalker family. Besides that, it sounds more like a drama or a poem. And to me, that was the origin of Star Wars.

Is “Empire of Dreams” in HD? I heard the rumor that they remastered the original documentary one or two years go. Would be interesting to know if they now offer that version on Disney+ .

SilverWook said:

Does the behind the scenes footage look restored to anyone else?

And a pro SE crank in the chat already…

Yes, looks that way to me, too. And there are certain BTS scenes I never saw before. And I saw A LOT.
A few months ago there were rumors that Lucasfilm was digging in their archives to preserve a lot of material. I think this footage they are showing right now is a big indicator that those rumors were true.

“Guests include: … Marcia Lucas”

Holy mother of God!

Take your time! It’s already awesome that this movie is getting scanned and - at long last - I’m going to see the true theatrical release with its correct colors. I don’t care what others say, but TPM is my favourite PT movie, and one of my favourite SW films right after the OT. I connect with so many great memories when the film was released in 1999. And it is the only PT movie that actually LOOKS like a movie (reason: recorded on film print 😃) Most of the effects aged very well. Especially in comparison with AOTC and ROTS.