Rodney-2187

Servii said:

Rodney-2187 said:

The Original Trilogy is no more perfect than anything else. The same criticisms often leveled at other Star Wars movies can also be applied to the OT. Since we’re in the habit of forgiving and overlooking, why not spread that attitude over all of Star Wars?

No one here will suggest that the OT doesn’t have flaws. What matters is the amount and severity of those flaws. I don’t ignore flaws outright, but the OT are solid enough films that the occasional flaws don’t detract from the experience, and I’d argue that they are “closer to perfect” overall. Other Star Wars films, however, are more flawed on a fundamental level that takes you out of the movie. Too many problems on a structural level start to add up until the film appears broken under scrutiny.

I don’t think they’re any more flawed, at least not significantly. While some flaws are certainly objective, others are very subjective.

The Original Trilogy is no more perfect than anything else. The same criticisms often leveled at other Star Wars movies can also be applied to the OT. Since we’re in the habit of forgiving and overlooking, why not spread that attitude over all of Star Wars?

I love that pic of the X-wing engines.

I got my ideal sequel trilogy. All I wanted was for Star Wars to get away from the look and style of the prequels and something more like the originals with modern methods. What we got did that and actually made me less critical of the prequels.

As far as story goes, my thoughts would probably have been boring. It wouldn’t have been a good idea to feature the original cast at their ages. They aren’t a spry as they used to be. Maybe if the sequels were made earlier, instead of the prequels, we could have gotten something more like what we saw in the finale of The Mandalorian. Best to have them as mentors to the next generation, and that’s what they did.

I’m happy with the sequels. They’re not perfect, but nothing ever is, and I’ve yet to read or hear a better idea.

Bring on X, XI and XII !

Season finale tonight!

I rewatched the last season again. It’s just so great. Some of the best Star Wars there is.

I can’t remember when Star Wars wasn’t huge. Other things came and went, some were huge for a short amount of time, but Star Wars has always been a constant. I remember when those Power oft he Force figures came out. Even that was a huge event.

I know it’s made from old sink parts and an old grenade, but Obi-Wan’s saber in the OT (seen newer looking in RotS) is my favorite by far.

It’s not from the OT, but Qui-Gon says, “Your focus determines your reality.” I often use that phrase to reset myself when I just need to movie on from something.

1. Luke vs Vader (TESB)
2. AT-ATs on Hoth
3. trench run
4. Luke looking at binary suns
5. ending of RotJ

This article is a fun read.

Ewoks Are the Most Tactically Advanced Fighting Force in Star Wars

https://www.wired.com/story/ewoks-star-wars-tactics-endor-moon/

“In this single engagement, the Ewoks manage to overwhelm and completely defeat a technologically superior force simply by using conventional military tactics and the principles of multi-domain operations. Through the synchronization of direct and indirect fire, close air support, combat engineer principles, deception, psychological operations, and massing their forces at the key point in time and space, the Ewoks demonstrate their proficiency in land warfare. Other Star Wars universe forces—the Gungans and the Galactic Army of the Republic in particular—show their own flashes of tactical brilliance, but none of them come close to matching the Ewoks in their ability to coordinate the effects of combat power.”

My friends and I would argue about Vader being Luke’s father. I was certain he was lying. I was wrong but still had a great time. Debates don’t seem as friendly as they used to.

Since I was a kid with VHS tapes, I don’t think a year has gone by that I haven’t watched them at least once. Probably more than once. I just don’t get tired of Star Wars.

Lucas won. He has essentially rewritten history. Most don’t even know about the changes and of those who do know, not all of them care. I’m thankful for the fan preservation efforts for my own use, but the other part of the effort was to preserve an essential piece of cultural history for the future. I think the only way that happens to a significant enough extent is an official release similar to Blade Runner: Final Cut, and I don’t see that happening. I’d like to know people could easily revisit what was. I just wish someone would straightforward ask about it. The silence is deafening.

Raisins are grape flavored jerky.

It was the first Victory for “Rebel spaceships striking from a hidden base.” It wasn’t the first time people had stood up against the Empire. What happened on Lothal was organized by Ezra, not Mon Mothma and the Rebel Alliance. I’m sure plenty of places had minor victories before the Rebellion actually solidified. Probably could’t have even formed an Alliance if no one ever had any previous success at all.

There are so many possibilities. Instead of focusing on the main characters, we could get more of Connix and Beaumont, and/or see what happened with Jannah.

jedi_bendu said:

Rodney-2187 said:

I love all of Star Wars.

Come on. Everyone knows, if you don’t hate most star wars content, you’re not a real star wars fan…

In all seriousness, although I think the ball was dropped on the sequel trilogy with the lack of a pre-planned trilogy outline, I’ve been very satisfied with most of the new Disney content. Rogue One is great, Solo is pretty great, I love Rebels, the Clone Wars final arc is phenomenal, The Mandalorian is phenomenal. A lot of the new EU books and comics are astoundingly good and I can’t wait to get into the High Republic. I would praise all of that.

Some parts are better than others, but I indeed love it all, including the sequels.

I highly recommend the High Republic. Light of the Jedi was outstanding and Into the Shadows will be out in a few days.

It’s a great time to be a Star Wars fan.

I love all of Star Wars.

Shopping Maul said:

I didn’t like it. I had an exchange about this with some folks here on one of the RO threads a while back. I think the actual premise is okay, but the film lines up poorly with ANH, the ‘reactor as deliberate sabotage’ thing doesn’t make sense to me, and the fan service is lame. I do understand why people dig it, but it’s not for me.

I think it lines up perfectly with the original.

Galen’s sabotage is extremely subtle. All reactors in the Star Wars universe are unstable. I took it that he just compromised the exhaust port design in a way that would explode the reactor from the outside. Something that would go unnoticed.

I’d also add that knowing Galen compromised the first Death Star makes the idea of them building a second more feasible. I’m sure if it had been completed, the exhaust port would not have been a detonation point.

Rogue One is my favorite movie.

When I was a kid playing with Star Wars toys, the stories in my head had a look and tone very much like Rogue One and The Mandalorian. Those resonate so strongly with me because it’s like seeing Star Wars the way I’d always imagined it.

OutboundFlight said:

I think the problem is the dull characters. Each has an interesting backstory that should make for an interesting character but watching them interact they all looked so bored. Cassian says he’s been in this fight since he was 6 but we don’t learn why. What motivates him to push further and further towards grey morality, in essence becoming as bad as the Empire to fight the Empire? That should be interesting but it’s never explored.

For me, Star Wars requires a lot of inference, and I think that’s one of its strongest attributes. The first movie drops you right in the middle of a war. You have to figure out what’s going on. They don’t explain who Darth Vader is or why he’s wearing a breathing apparatus. There’s a backstory there, but that’s not the focus at that time.

You description of Cassian Andor actually says a lot. Something traumatic, likely Imperial related, impacted him when he was very young and the Rebellion is very personal to him as a result, and we see the extent of that in the grey morality you mentioned.

OutboundFlight said:

Same for the “Gun Guy” and the “Force Guy” (yes, I’ve forgotten their names). They say in passing they once thought similarly but have since drifted in beliefs. What motivated that and how will they reconcile? Never explored, instead they just offer Jyn weird advice.

The huge Star Destroyer hovering overhead tells me their worldview was also greatly affected by the Imperial raids of their temple. Chirrut still believes in the Force, but Baze who as you’ve mentioned was once the most devoted of all, no longer believes. Eventually Chirrut walks to the control panel they need and Baze sees how the Force protects him from the Death Troopers. Baze’s belief in the Force is restored before his own demise. I especially love the dialogue of both characters.

OutboundFlight said:

Or how about the Pilot? The Pilot is just a walking plot device. He has no characterization other than knowing Imperial stuff. We never learn why he defected or what he believes in, he is just with Galen for whatever reason and knows the tech stuff.

We know a little less about Bodhi, but enough to say his interactions with Galen Erso as a cargo pilot, probably while making deliveries, inspires him to help Galen get his message to Saw. When I think of the Empire, I imagine a lot of people like Bodhi working various jobs who are just caught up in the churn. They’re good people, but feel helpless. They need hope.

“Condense fact from the vapor of nuance.” - Snow Crash

I also think Rogue One has the best space battle in all of Star Wars.

doubleofive said:

Yes, the 1997 Special Edition credits are the only credits now.

Is anything else in the credits different before 97?

R.I.P. my little Chromebook. We went on many adventures together, but into the great unknown you went first.