RicOlie_2

Yes!!

Not bad!

Glad you’re OK.

The end of fall is nigh…it’s snowing right now.

Haha, I’m looking forward to it!

EDIT: I really like that last track, by the way.

I recommend Alterations especially! There’s some good stuff on there. (The album art for The Way is pretty good, though. ;P)

i ea i ioie o ea…

doubleofive said:

Yes.

Not sure what Bible you’ve been reading.

TV’s Frink said:

Does it make the opposite clear, that faith with nothing else is all that is needed?

It explicitly says the opposite, actually. According to some people’s interpretations, it does, but the Letter of James says:

“What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? […] So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead.”

Lord Haseo said:

RicOlie_2 said:

Lord Haseo said:

RicOlie_2 said:

Lord Haseo said:

RicOlie_2 said:

Living according to Catholic teachings is doing a heck of a lot. Take a look at Mother Theresa, for example. For most people, it just means trying to make the lives of everyone else around you better, in simple ways, but even then, it’s only nothing if you’re not really trying…

Other than not having sex before marriage and just being a decent person in general I don’t think living by those tenets is a particularly difficult challenge.

You’ve boiled Christianity down to just about nothing, and if you see it that way, it’s no wonder it seems easy. Even simple things, like being friendly with someone who’s a jerk to you, or performing random acts of kindness whenever the opportunity shows itself are easier said than done.

Volunteering in soup kitchens; protesting unjust laws; doing every chore, school assignment, and task at your job to the best of your ability; donating a sizeable amount of what you earn to charity; being cheerful even when your day has been crappy; cleaning the toilets so another family member doesn’t have to do it instead; sacrificing your time to help an acquaintance – or a stranger – with some difficulty; visiting people in the old folks home or the hospital just to cheer them up; taking the time to talk (cheerfully, sympathetically, and patiently) to that person who just won’t leave you alone and feels the desparate need to tell you their life story; or not getting angry at the guy who cuts you off in traffic are just a few of the things that every good Christian should do consistently, so far as they are able. Do I do them all? No. Most of them, yes, but it is very difficult to take time out of your schedule and visit strangers, or to not be irritable when you’re having a bad day, so as not to make it a bad day for other people.

Being kind to someone who wronged you is hard I admit but that depends on the person. Also “easier said than done” does not equate to “difficult”. It’s only difficult if you have little free time but the acts themselves aren’t.

The most difficult part about them is doing it when you don’t want to, which is generally most of the time. Many of those things involve sacrificing one’s free time, which is easy enough to do on occasion, but not all the time.

I don’t think you’ll find that there are many people who do all, or even most, of those things (Catholics included). I do know several people who do, but the one thing they have in common is that they’re all Christian (and almost all Catholic). I have yet to meet a non-religious person, non-practising Christian, or someone from another religion who does even the majority of those things–though that’s not to say there aren’t any (and I can’t say I know a ton of atheists, agnostics, Muslims, etc. either).

I think even doing 2 or 3 good deeds a day is consistent enough to satisfy Yahweh. 2 or 3 isn’t hard at all.

It’s not about “satisfying Yahweh,” though, it’s about growing in holiness.

DominicCobb said:

TV’s Frink said:

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/pictures/50-things-millennials-have-never-heard-of-20131125?utm_source=huffpo&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=sept2016

Hey now, this filthy millennial knew 17 of those 50 things.

For comparison, I only knew 15 of these 50:
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/pictures/50-things-millennials-know-that-gen-xers-dont-20131206

Wow, for me it was only 8 and 6, respectively.

^+1

Lord Haseo said:

RicOlie_2 said:

Lord Haseo said:

RicOlie_2 said:

Living according to Catholic teachings is doing a heck of a lot. Take a look at Mother Theresa, for example. For most people, it just means trying to make the lives of everyone else around you better, in simple ways, but even then, it’s only nothing if you’re not really trying…

Other than not having sex before marriage and just being a decent person in general I don’t think living by those tenets is a particularly difficult challenge.

You’ve boiled Christianity down to just about nothing, and if you see it that way, it’s no wonder it seems easy. Even simple things, like being friendly with someone who’s a jerk to you, or performing random acts of kindness whenever the opportunity shows itself are easier said than done.

Volunteering in soup kitchens; protesting unjust laws; doing every chore, school assignment, and task at your job to the best of your ability; donating a sizeable amount of what you earn to charity; being cheerful even when your day has been crappy; cleaning the toilets so another family member doesn’t have to do it instead; sacrificing your time to help an acquaintance – or a stranger – with some difficulty; visiting people in the old folks home or the hospital just to cheer them up; taking the time to talk (cheerfully, sympathetically, and patiently) to that person who just won’t leave you alone and feels the desparate need to tell you their life story; or not getting angry at the guy who cuts you off in traffic are just a few of the things that every good Christian should do consistently, so far as they are able. Do I do them all? No. Most of them, yes, but it is very difficult to take time out of your schedule and visit strangers, or to not be irritable when you’re having a bad day, so as not to make it a bad day for other people.

Being kind to someone who wronged you is hard I admit but that depends on the person. Also “easier said than done” does not equate to “difficult”. It’s only difficult if you have little free time but the acts themselves aren’t.

The most difficult part about them is doing it when you don’t want to, which is generally most of the time. Many of those things involve sacrificing one’s free time, which is easy enough to do on occasion, but not all the time.

I don’t think you’ll find that there are many people who do all, or even most, of those things (Catholics included). I do know several people who do, but the one thing they have in common is that they’re all Christian (and almost all Catholic). I have yet to meet a non-religious person, non-practising Christian, or someone from another religion who does even the majority of those things–though that’s not to say there aren’t any (and I can’t say I know a ton of atheists, agnostics, Muslims, etc. either).

Lord Haseo said:

RicOlie_2 said:

Living according to Catholic teachings is doing a heck of a lot. Take a look at Mother Theresa, for example. For most people, it just means trying to make the lives of everyone else around you better, in simple ways, but even then, it’s only nothing if you’re not really trying…

Other than not having sex before marriage and just being a decent person in general I don’t think living by those tenets is a particularly difficult challenge.

You’ve boiled Christianity down to just about nothing, and if you see it that way, it’s no wonder it seems easy. Even simple things, like being friendly with someone who’s a jerk to you, or performing random acts of kindness whenever the opportunity shows itself are easier said than done.

Volunteering in soup kitchens; protesting unjust laws; doing every chore, school assignment, and task at your job to the best of your ability; donating a sizeable amount of what you earn to charity; being cheerful even when your day has been crappy; cleaning the toilets so another family member doesn’t have to do it instead; sacrificing your time to help an acquaintance – or a stranger – with some difficulty; visiting people in the old folks home or the hospital just to cheer them up; taking the time to talk (cheerfully, sympathetically, and patiently) to that person who just won’t leave you alone and feels the desparate need to tell you their life story; or not getting angry at the guy who cuts you off in traffic are just a few of the things that every good Christian should do consistently, so far as they are able. Do I do them all? No. Most of them, yes, but it is very difficult to take time out of your schedule and visit strangers, or to not be irritable when you’re having a bad day, so as not to make it a bad day for other people.

Those are just simple ways of following the teachings of my religion, and there are of course far more extreme ways, like becoming a fully-licenced doctor, and spending your time treating people in 3rd world countries for free, or selling everything you have and using all your time and money to help those in need, or joining a religious order and devoting your life to the service of others.

Also, comparing praying to asking a teacher for credit isn’t very accurate. It’s more like asking a teacher for help with homework, or to give another student extra help, because they are struggling. I could add all sorts of prayer-related things Catholics should do to the above list, because those can be difficult as well, but you no doubt think they’re a total waste of time.

Living according to Catholic teachings is doing a heck of a lot. Take a look at Mother Theresa, for example. For most people, it just means trying to make the lives of everyone else around you better, in simple ways, but even then, it’s only nothing if you’re not really trying…

Lord Haseo said:
The concept of praying is tantamount asking your teacher to give you extra credit for doing absolutely nothing. It’s cheating.

Hence why Catholics don’t believe you can get away with just praying and not actually living according to Catholic teaching (which is not to say that God ignores Protestants’ prayers).

Yup. I don’t offer to pray for people’s conversions, LOL.

I wish you all the best, darthrush, however much I might disagree with your choice. I hope your family lives up to the teachings of their religion and doesn’t condemn you for not believing the same things they do.

TV’s Frink said:

This is interesting.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/when-does-praying-in-public-make-others-uncomfortable/

That’s more or less the results I would have expected, though prayer before meals bothered people slightly more than I would have thought.

Out of curiosity, would you feel uncomfortable if you were invited over for dinner and your hosts prayed grace? And if so, would it make you feel more at ease if they explained that they were going to pray grace, and you could pray or abstain from doing so as you wished?

Incidentally, the only person who has mentioned anything when I pray grace before lunch at school (silently, but visibly making the sign of the cross) was a kid from a Catholic family who obviously didn’t share his parents’ religious convictions and who teased me about it. I do go to a Catholic school, though, so even non-religious kids there probably wouldn’t think much of it (I got a ton of questions about it in elementary, though).

I haven’t been around much, so I only just saw this. You have my consolations and prayers, Warb.

I haven’t stopped! I hope everything works out for him in the end.

I’m glad things are going well! Let’s hope it continues (or at least that you will have more and more such respites in the future).

I started to write up an index thread similar to this a while back, but I never ended up posting it (and it’s lost now). I don’t think I got far enough to make it worth posting, because I got a life somewhere in the middle of creating it…

It’s nice to see that someone actually has the ambition (and the lack of a life) needed to make it happen.

Jetrell Fo said:

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yhwx said:

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BrightestDayFan2814 said:

Hey Guys, BrightestDayFan2814 Here, I Have A Very Bad News, Team Negative1 Got Banned From OriginalTrilogy.com,

Looks like you win the distinction of “troll bump”. LOL

Looks like you win the distinction of “doesn’t know what a bump is.” LOL

Looks like you need to “fuck off”. LOL

A bump is typically when you post in a thread that’s old.

This thread was created yesterday.

You said six months … it happened sooner. I was having some fun.

“LOL”

And you can just zip it … your humor is still NOT the criteria for humor everywhere.

Indeed not, but to be qualified as humour, typically at least one other person must find your jokes funny.

All these digs at Frink are getting kind of annoying. Ideally, Frink would just ignore you and spare us the drama, but you make yourself such an appealing target.

“Dreams” by Fleetwood Mac

Huh. I find the arguments you use when criticizing the Church interesting, considering you don’t have much of a religious background.