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SpilkaBilka said:

Have Luke ask Yoda several times, "Is ______ my father?"

Fill in the blank with various names/dialogue Luke has said throughout the movies: Princess Leia, Ben Kenobi, Han, Biggs, Master Yoda, R2, Threepio, my father, the Death Star, the tower, Jabba, Aunt Beru, Luke Skywalker, attack pattern delta, etc.  The possibilities are endless.

Every time he asks, show Yoda with a skeptical/disappointed look on his face, or have him say no.  Have Luke ask again, and fill in the blank with a different name.  Repeat.

I suggested this earlier, but I like the idea of having him ask "Is my father my father?" Or perhaps "Is my father my father my father my father?"

Tack said:

1. Recut shuttle taking off to leave out Han's line about not seeing the Falcon again.

I think Han's line should be left in. It adds to the tension in the final battle because you are led to believe that the Falcon might be destroyed.

You should have all kinds of people appear as force ghosts.

You guys must be sick of reading comments on this list, but here are my thoughts...

Opening:

1. Consider the more radical re-edits to the entire movie Not to radical please. I'm not much in favour of major changes to the OT, even ROTJ.
2. Change the opening crawl to something more dramatic than "Luke Skywalker has returned to his home planet of Tatooine in an attempt to rescue his friend Han Solo from the clutches of the vile gangster Jabba The Hutt" This would make me very happy, the current crawl doesn't have the same effect as those in ANH and tESB.
3. Add evidence of construction vehicles working on the Death Star, maybe even as just hints of movement around the incomplete side. I like this, as long as it doesn't take away from the battle.
4. Replace the shot of the Star Destroyer going overhead with a shot of the shuttle coming from the Executor. I don't care either way.
   

Tatooine:

1. Remove Boba Fett from the film. Boba being in the movie doesn't bother me at all (and no, I'm not a Fett fan). He might be hanging around Jabba's palace and enjoying all the slave girls. Jabba could be paying him to do other jobs for him, and he probably just works for the money, not for the fun of it, so he might prefer free meals, slave girls, etc. to chasing people around the galaxy.
2. Change Jawa eyes to match ANH. If they need fixing, fix 'em.
3. "Cantina"-ize Jabba's speech and expressions. Definitely, his mouth flapping up and down just doesn't quite do it anymore.
4. "Cantina"-ize other aliens in the Palace. Yes, definitely.
5. Make Bib Fortuna's tentacles move occasionally. Just subtly, but I would like this. Twi'leks are supposed to be able to speak and express emotion with their Lekku (the EU name for their tentacles), so having Bib Fortuna's remain motionless doesn't make sense from that perspective.
6. Remove Greedo's dialog from the background noice in Jabba's Palace. If it's there, it must be removed. I haven't noticed it though.
   
7. Remove 3PO's line of "Look, it's Captain Solo and he's still frozen in Carbonite!" I think it fits with 3PO's character, but I can go either way on that.
   
8. Cut down on Salacious Crumb's laughter. Keep him, but cut out one or two of his laughs; his laughing gets annoying really quickly.
   
9. Cut/shorten the Droid Torture scene. Robots/Droids should not be able to feel pain. I also think the line on Bespin where 3PO complains that bumping his head on the Falcon as Chewie gets on board should be removed. Parts of the scene could be kept, as droids with more intelligence would not necessarily find the torture painful, but possibly humiliating (take C-3PO for example).
10. Remove Jedi Rocks. I could go either way on this one, but I would prefer Lapti Nek--but I like Fett flirting with the dancers, so I am undecided.
    
11. Remove Fett flirting with the dancer. Keep this.
12. Restore Lapti Nek. I say don't completely remove the dance number, just shorten it.
13. Fix the flipped shots of Fett. Since I vote for keeping Fett in the movie, I say of course.
14. Change Boushh's dialog to be a more "realistic" language. Please. Speaking of language, change "Jedi Mind Trick" in Huttese to something different. I didn't think it made sense for their to be no word(s) for it in Huttese especially since the Jedi had been around for thousands of years.
15. Mix up Jabba's minion's reaction to Boushh's thermal detenator so Fett isn't the only one who pulls out his gun. Maybe cut Fett out of some scenes so that it looks like he isn't just hanging around doing nothing the entire time.
16. Cut Lando pulling his mask down after he hits his head on the low ceiling. I could go either way on this.
17. Remove Lando hitting his head on the low ceiling. I don't think it really matters, but if it would make people happy, then whatever.
18. Remove the belch from the creature outside Jabba's Palace. Remove the belch, keep the scene (unless that makes the scene to short--I can't remember how it fits in).
19. Enhance the carbonite thawing process. And remove the stupid light rays coming from the carbonite. I know that some people like that, but that's so unrealistic it drives me crazy every time I see it. And shouldn't all the carbonite melt and not just the part covering Han? This definitely needs work.
20. Add Han's restraints when he is unfrozen. Or have them removed before he's frozen, which would be my preference.
    
21. Remove Han's scene with Chewie in the dungeons. Why??? I like that scene.
22. Remove Luke using Force Choke on the guards. Might be better since force choking is more of a dark side thing.
23. Add Mara Jade (from the EU) to Jabba's Palace. If you do end up removing Fett, maybe you could replace him with another character which you could put over top of him (minus the death scene of course).
24. Cut the Rancor Keeper's mourning. I could go either way.
25. Remove SE Bantha herd. Keep it unless it looks bad or takes away from the scene.
26. Restore pre-SE Sarlacc. Keep it, it adds more life to the Sarlacc. If you remove it, add more tentacles. The pre-SE Sarlacc didn't look very alive in my opinion.
27. Add more menancing sounds to the SE Sarlacc. Please! The only problem I have with the SE Sarlacc are the stupid noises it makes.
28. Fix jump cut as R2's panel comes open and the lightsaber pops up. Probably.
29. Add the knob to the top of the emitter to the saber that comes out of R2. I haven't noticed it, but I say fix it if you can.
30. Shorten the amount of time Luke has his hand in the air waiting for his lightsaber. This always bugged me. He should be able to use the force to speed it up. Maybe fast forward it and add more of a motion blur to fix this, unless it will make stuff in the background look bad.
31. "Restore" Luke's lightsaber to the preproduction blue. What for? I like the green sabre. It wouldn't show up well against the sky on Tatooine anyway.
    
32. Make it so Luke's lightsaber leaves slash marks on Jabba's crew. That would be a welcome addition.
33. Remove/replace the scream as Fett spirals out of control. Maybe have him grunt instead, or something more manly.
34. Make it so Han deliberately hits or shoots Fett using shots from later in the movie. He's a minor character, why does he need a good death? I think it's a suitable end to someone as feared as Fett.
35. Make it so Luke beheads Fett. Not a fan of the idea, but I wouldn't be upset if it was in the edit.
    
36. Make it so Luke deflects a bolt at Fett which sets off his backpack. I have to admit that I would prefer this to an accidental death.
    
37. Fix Fett's jetpack as they come out at the wrong angle currently. Doesn't really matter to me.
38. Have Fett shoot at the Sarlacc as he falls into it. That would be much better than him not doing anything.
    
39. Add a shot of Fett crawling/flying out of the Sarlacc. Maybe.
40. Fix it so Luke actually kicks the guard while Fett flies out of control in the background. Yes, Luke should have better aim. You can remove Fett in the background if you end up taking him out of the movie (which would probably be a lot of work).
41. Restore Han's "Trust me" line. I actually prefer the SE line, but I agree that it's kinda long for that situation.
42. Make it so Luke doesn't have his hand straight up in the air to get shot. I always thought that was stupid.
43. Remove Luke's hand damage from before he gets shot. Again, remove him holding his hand up in the air entirely.
44. Attempt to restore the deleted Sandstorm scene and remove the ship-to-ship conversation. Don't care and as far as I'm aware, there isn't enough footage to do this.
    

Dagobah:

1. "Cantina"-ize Yoda. Definitely. He needs it less than other characters, but it should still be done.
2. Do something about Yoda's obvious rubber hand during his death scene. Yes.
3. Tweak/cut Yoda's disappearance. It looks to gradual and fake. If his clothes disappear (can't remember if they do or not) then they shouldn't.
4. Recolor the blue Force Ghosts to prevent confusion with blue holograms. Again, why? I don't know of anyone who was confused between the two.
   
5. No Luke/Leia relation. NO! That's part of the whole story, and it would be pointless to remove it.

Rebel Fleet:

1. Recut Rebel Briefing. I don't really care, but what's-his-name who did the briefing in ANH should be there.
2. Shorten/cut the huggy Luke and Co. reunion ("I'm with you too" and on). Agreed. I'll leave the how to Adywan.
3. Different Shuttle Class for Tydyrium. Or make the emperor's shuttle fancier. The interior of the Emperor's shuttle could be completely different, and I think it's mostly the interior that would matter. The exterior should be different though.
   
4. Replace/enhance matte painting of Rebel docking bay. Yes please!! Add more action in "dead" areas.

Forest Moon of Endor:

1. Add Endor so that the Forest Moon is actually a moon of something.I think the story is that the planet Endor was destroyed, but I think the moon Endor would go flying out of orbit if that was the case. Maybe Endor could just be a small planet and a moon in name only? But a planet would probably be better.
2. Change Ewoks to Wookiees. No, leave the Ewoks, but make them seem fiercer and remove some goofy scenes. 
3. Complete removal of Ewoks. Again, keep the Ewoks but make them less cute and cuddly and add more of them in the battle.
4. "Cantina"-ize the Ewoks. Yes, and make them look angrier.
5. Add 3PO's line "I believe they are called... Ewoks" from the Radio Drama. I don't care, but I think it's pointless.
6. Stabilize the speeder bikes during the chase. Yes, and the background always looked like it didn't fit in to me.
7. Adjust the scene so it looks like the Scout pushes Luke off of his speeder bike. I always thought Luke jumped off when he saw the tree up ahead.
8. Do something with Leia remembering her mother, her real mother. Yes, that would be better.
   
9. Change Vader's line of "Obi-wan once thought as you do" to "Your mother once thought as you do". Maybe add a pause ("Your...mother once thought as you do") since it would pain him to think about Padme (unless you plan to change that in the revisited PT).
10. Cut Teebo's Speeder Bike Adventure. It is unnecessary and adds to the Ewok's cuteness a bit too much.
11. Add more Imperial laser fire as the Ewoks attack. And show waaay more Ewoks dying.
12. Add AT-AT to ground battle. It would be cool, but a lot of work and the Ewoks wouldn't be able to destroy it, so you would have to think up a different way to get rid of it.
13. Change AT-ST windows to match the windows in ESB. They could be a different model.
14. Cut Chewie's Tarzan yell. I don't remember it, but I think it would be a good idea to scrap it.
15. Enhance AT-ST explosion that is crushed between the two logs. Or remove the explosion if you can and just have it get squished. I suppose that if a fuel tank burst it would explode, but I think the scene should be kept, but improved.
16. Enhance AT-ST explosion that is shot by Chewie's AT-ST. Yes.
17. Remove Harrison Ford's reflection from safety glass as he runs from the bunker. I haven't notice before, but it should be removed.
18. The shield generator explosion is huge and looks like it would probably wipe out everyone in the area. The small bunker thing was a separate building away from the shield generator. Their was a chain reaction which led to the generator and blew it up, so the rebels were clear of the blast.

Death Star Attack:

1. Rebel fighters crashing into the DS shield. Definitely.
2. More fighters overall (B-wings and A-wings especially). Yes, but maybe more in the background (I guess that's probably how it would be anyway).
3. Fix garbage spots in "one of the battle shots" where ships were not added. Yes.
4. Just before Lando says "Yes, I said closer", some of the background ships don't tilt with the rest of the shot. Yes, fix it.
5. Remove green matte boxes around ships. Yes, that bugs me a lot. I'm not sure if you fixed the matte boxes around the Tie Fighters in ANH, but if you didn't, it should be fixed for the HD release.
6. Remove/replace some of the copy/paste capital ships. Work your magic Ady.
7. Add more laser fire as the capital ships should be pounding on one another (a la the RotS opening). That would be pretty awesome, and you could avoid having it to much like RotS by having it in the background.
8. Add shots of Rebel capital ships attacking the surface of the DS (storyboard) That would be good too.
9. Better end to the Executor. I think it should cause waay more damage to the Death Star, but the way it's destroyed never bothered me. It lost the bridge, so it went out of control--but maybe it should be pulled towards the greatest source of gravity (i.e. Endor) instead of the Death Star?
   
10. Add shots of the gunner stations on the DS (from ANH). Unnecessary.
11. Redub the Rebel pilot line: "Copy, Gold Leader". I never thought it sounded bad, but there must be something to this.
12. Kill Lando, blow up the Falcon. Justify Han's feeling like he's "never going to see her again." But this is what we're led to expect, and I think its better when the expected doesn't happen (with some exceptions--I think it would be stupid for Luke to fall to the dark side and for the rebels to all die). But add more ships attacking them and more damage to the Falcon, to add more tension. It seems to me that a tunnel leading to the core of the Death Star would be better protected.
13. Remove ring from DS explosion. I don't mind it, but sure.
    

Death Star Interior - Luke/Vader Duel:

1. Replace/enhance cardboard troopers during the Emperor's arrival. Please.
2. Replace the Emperor's advisers with Nemoidians. NOOO!! The Emperor is supposed to be specist anyway, which is why he doesn't have non-humans in his army/navy.
3. Fix the Emperor's "slugs". Can someone please explain to me what the Emperor's "slugs" are? I haven't been able to figure out what is meant by that.
4. Move the exterior battle closer to the Throne Room window as it should be (a la the RotS opening). I would welcome this, but don't bring them too close. I would just like them to be actually visible, especially when Luke is watching them from the throne room.
5. Remove/soften the more obvious lightsaber blade shadows. Yes!
   
6. Fix large black matte that covers half the screen when Vader is kicked down the stars. Never noticed it, but if it's there fix it.
7. Fix Vader's blade coming out the wrong end of his saber as he throws it to cut the catwalk. Please.
8. Remove Luke's lightsaber from Vader's hand while Luke is hiding. Since we don't see why Vader ends up with his sabre, that should be fixed.
9. Edit Vader's dialog to hiding Luke to remove some cheesy lines. Cheesy? I never thought they were cheesy. Keep them in.
10. Add Luke pulling his lightsaber out of Vader's hand after he is done hiding. No. Just remove the sabre from Vader's hand.
11. Add Sith eyes while Luke is beating Vader. I think that only Sith who have turned completely to the dark side and have no or almost no chance of redemption should get the Sith eyes.
12. Cut some of Luke's angry hits on Vader while he's down. Maybe make them look less clumsy.
13. Add more Sith Lightning. No more! But it badly needs enhancing.
14. Tighten up Vader's hesitation to save Luke from the Emperor. No, it's fine the way it is.
15. Add Qui Gon voiceover to Vader's hesitation to imply that Qui Gon passes his secrets of Jedi Ghosthood to Anakin. No, that's supposed to be Obi-Wan's job.
16. Add flashbacks to Vader's hesitation of Padme, his mother, Qui Gon, etc. No, please no.
17. Fix saber on/off issues. Yes.
18. Restore Sebastian Shaw's eyebrows to the unmasking scene. No, that was a good change. He lost all his other hair, why would he still have eyebrows? His eyelashes should be removed if they're there.
    
19. Fix the transition from Sebastian Shaw's face to the bald cap he wears. Yes.
    

Ending:

1. Fix Luke's lazy eye as he looks at the funeral pyre. Never noticed it, but go ahead.
2. Add Leia viewing the funeral pyre. She sees Vader differently from Luke and I don't think it would be suitable.
3. Remove SE celebrations. I like them, but they need work.
4. Restore pre-2004 buildings to the background of the Coruscant celebration. Yes. We don't need to be seeing the same location on Coruscant as we did in the prequels. Coruscant is huge!
5. Remove the "Weesa free!" line from the Naboo celebration. Yes, and fiz the flip shot.
6. Restore Yub Nub. I don't like it, but I could live with it.
7. Restore Sebastian Shaw as Anakin's Force Ghost. YES! Cut down on his pudginess if you can though. I think Anakin would like to appear as if he were in shape.
8. Attempt to morph Shaw and Christensen into the Anakin Force Ghost. No, that would not work well.
   
9. Add other Jedi from the prequels appearing next to Obi-wan, Yoda, and Anakin. No, only the ones Luke knew. Maybe the other ones were there, but that doesn't necessarily mean Luke would see them.
   

Some ideas--sorry if it's already been posted, I don't click on all the links.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzoeEdW-EDQ

I'm not sure if any of these ideas could be used, and sorry if this has already been posted, but it would be fun to see some of these in the edit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L8b1zPE0-Y

I'm not sure if any of these ideas could be used, and sorry if this has already been posted, but it would be fun to see some of these in the edit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdukWtJwlPU

And you should replace the hologram. Possibly with Coruscant or another planet: just something to make the landing in the ship seem completely pointless.

SpilkaBilka said:

In the Falcon cockpit, when Luke, Ben, and Han are discussing what happened to Alderaan, add Luke's line, "It looks like sand people did this, all right. Look, there's gaffi sticks, bantha tracks. It's just… I've never heard of them hitting anything this big before."

Obi-Wan could then say that it wasn't the work of sand people and that it was the princess who did it. Or that it was Luke's father.

I like that a lot

Gee whiz, this one is really taking a long time (assuming I understand correctly and it isn't done yet)! I thought it was supposed to be released in April of last year...

What's taking so long? The first one was awesome, and I really want to see this one and ROTJ:R.

Or Luke could end up having numerous siblings. Luke's family tree could go something like this:

Padme=Obi-Wan + Anakin

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Luke Han=Leia Chewie Jabba

Luke could ask Obi-Wan if he is his sister, to which Obi-Wan could reply, "No, I am your father."

You could place this scene in Episode V, before Luke leaves for Bespin, so that when Darth Vader tells Luke that he is his father, Luke could reply "That's not true! Obi-Wan told me that he was my father!..."

I would say Jabba, Han, Yoda, Chewie, and Obi-Wan are the funniest possibilities. Eventually Obi-Wan should just give up, and leave Luke thinking that the last one he mentioned was correct. He could later tell Leia that whoever it was, say Han, is his sister.

Luke says enough names in the OT that you could make Vader, Jabba, Han, Threepio, R2, Yoda, Obi-Wan, Aunt Beru, Uncle Owen, Biggs, Wedge, Dak, the Emperor, or Chewie his sister.

Luke could destroy a bunch of things with the force. He could crash everybody's fighters to eliminate competition.

I like that

I suggested earlier that Obi-Wan not fight with Vader at all and get left behind on the Death Star still pulling levers. Or he could fight Vader after being left behind, give up, and go back to pulling levers.

Akwat Kbrana said:

Yeah! It could keep going in the background during the entire lighsaber fight.

You could have Mace come in when Palpatine is watching Episode VI, just before Luke refuses to join him. Then the rest of the movie could play out during the sabre fight.

There are two scenes in which Palpatine could be watching a movie, so I vote that you use two different movies, or Episode III the first time and Episode VI the second time.

Yes, that would be perfect! :)

oh_riginal said:

DominicCobb said:

Revenge of the Sith. It would explain why Palps knows everything.

This would be funny if Palpatine and Anakin were watching ROTS at the opera house, and just after he watches the scene where Mace Windu and Ki Adi Mundi talk about sensing a plot to destroy the Jedi, he says the line "the Jedi are planning to overthrow me."

To make it extra meta, the hologram Mace and Ki Adi are standing at could be showing Palpatine saying "once more the Sith will rule the galaxy!" to which Mace states "I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi."

I'm definitely with that. It would explain why he foresees the future all the way until Episode VI, but perhaps he had to stop watching for some reason which would be why he doesn't foresee Darth Vader reverting to the good side (so if there is any way you could hint at or imply that he didn't get to finish viewing the future then you should fit it in).

I think ROTS being the movie within the movie would cause some sort of rip in the fabric of space & time, ultimately destroying all life. But that's just me. ;)

I don't think that matters in a ridiculous edit :)

I thought the clip was funny, but it interrupted the flow, so I have to agree with what Dominic.

Speaking of Ric Olie, in case this hasn't been suggested yet, Ric should say "You catch on pretty quick!" in reply to Obi-Wan's "That's no moon..." line.

He should also comment on the size of everything.

You could and should make Wedge the Ric Olie of the Original Trilogy.

LOL