Reegar

I think it sounds cool. Maul and Tyranus are a different story.

Alrighty. :)

It wasn't until you posted a preview that it became clear I am left in a strange place. I can analyze and critique prose. Scripts? They're held to different standards, especially where it concerns style. A script can get away with sin in many respects. Therefore. . . I'll gloss over style in large part, forgive vague logistics in fight scenes (those would be the responsibility of director and choreographer), and keep a more open mind. 

The series matters for lore. Everything else has to be taken at face value. Even if a scene or line of dialogue works in the series, it may be open for criticism when aimed for a live-action film. Different standards.

I'm left with little to say. I would recommend dragging the tension out once Zuko steps off the ship at the village. Have Aang take longer than he does here. Maybe have Zuko snap his fingers, and a soldier does attack a hut. Maybe the elderly are brought forth shivering.

I don't know why I should fear Zuko as an antagonist, or even take him seriously. Yet. The trio have too much say, too much of the time. And perhaps this is a minor criticism that could be aimed at the series itself.

Write Zuko to be more competent. This doesn't require a major rewrite of what you have, Tack. It requires a few extra lines that could fix what may become a big downfall.

I look forward to reading more. :)

Thank you, Ted. I'll check out those first four episodes, at least. :)

Is this series watchable for an adult who never encountered it as a child? I mean, I'll watch the old TMNT series from the late 80's-early 90's, but it's great for reasons rooted in nostalgia. I don't know if I could sit down and get into it otherwise.

Indeed! Looked for "Gray, Dick" in the records.

I want clarification of Dick Grayson's age, because I keep forgetting.

Dark Empire is as silly as ROTJ though.

That's disappointing. I've read Thrawn, but not DE yet. Seems to be a divisive series.

Bingowings. You may enjoy the Thrawn Trilogy and Dark Empire. The Empire's defeat is undermined in both. They make a full return with Sidious at the helm in DE.

Yeah. It was ridiculous, for instance, when Katara actually had to come out and say that her brother and Yue hit it off. Much as I hate to say "Show, don't tell", someone needed to say it to Shyamalan.

OH! That makes sense. Thanks.

Why is it called "color timing" instead of "color grading"? What's being timed?

hundsdorfex 2.0.

You think the space battle should have been more epic, or the ending less definite on the Empire's defeat?

Does anyone have Daneditor's ROTJ edit to upload onto MySpleen? Meanwhile, seeding of Spence's would be appreciated.

Was it this game where pre-suit Vader could use Force lightning?

I don't know why that discussion persists, either. Unless these extra takes can revolutionize future fan edits, I can't bring myself to chase after them.

I thought about using screenshots from the actual film, but came across a better possibility: the manga. The sometimes abstract or whited-out backgrounds allow me to do things the screenshot method would make impractical.

Here's what you might call a "conservative" edit of ROTJ in comic form. I have altered or re-arranged some dialogue and scenes to create a unique reading experience.

PART 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeWnXOvtmfM

- The Emperor's arrival aboard the Death Star II replaces Vader's at the beginning.

- Luke starts on Dagobah.

- The sibling angle is erased from the entire comic.

- Luke converses with Obi-Wan's ghost for a short period. Obi-Wan tells Luke that he must destroy Vader, and Luke commands the spirit to leave him alone.

- The team make quick, brutal work of Jabba and his minions. Leia is already captured. Luke shows up to dispense justice.

I think the altered story combined with how Luke is drawn at times gives the impression he has become emotionally troubled.

There will be three or four parts in total.

I'll review the first draft when available, as you know my thoughts on certain scenes and characters by now.

Are you going to use narration beyond the introduction?

Bingowings said:

As a sort of evil genius myself I can appreciate the stratagem.

Those Senators would probably rally behind someone in the future (someone like Luke or Leia) so Palpatine is throwing a controlled catalyst into the Petri dish of potential traitors.

He creates a designer hero with pre-attached puppet strings.

If the Senators stay loyal Palpatine has nothing to worry about from them. If they fall for the bait he can lead them with his puppet to a luxury cell on the new Death Star (proving it's cost effectiveness beyond the planet smashing).

Hubris leads him to believe that even the cock-up was a victory of sorts.

I would have created a moon-sized planet shrinker myself, maybe in black and sort of worrying in shape (that's always a memorable feature in a weapon of mass destruction).

I can almost see that (your explanation for Palpatine's logic... not sure about the planet shrinker). But it's the definition of overkill. Starkiller says that Sidious and Vader allowed him to destroy Imperial property and slaughter what are probably thousands of troopers and officers in his career to "sell the deception". They're wasting vast resources that makes the Death Star's construction look frugal.

Bingowings said:

These films are about a Galactic Civil war.

They are fun for us because they are exciting and the characters are engaging.

Once again I refer to the briefing in ANH.

The pilots look worried, Han frequently shows signs of disbelief at what he is hearing.

It's all very pessimistic.

This makes the final battle more intense, more emotionally realistic and more enjoyably exciting for the audience.

If the situation is less tangible and the characters can't be bothered to take things seriously why should we?

This makes the pay off to the action less exciting, cinematically it malfunctions.

Is it against the rules to randomly quote for truth? I might have necro-quoted as well. Oh dear.

I've been reading random Star Wars fiction lately. I tackled The Force Unleashed novelizations, both original and sequel, in my free time over the past couple days.

TFU is largely forgotten by now. The games pioneered fun new gameplay, at least where Star Wars games were concerned. I felt the plot of the first game suffered, though.

Darth Sidious may as well have been called Darth Senile. His motivations for allowing Vader to train Starkiller are nonsensical, when you consider that they already commanded elite storm trooper teams and low-classed Force sensitives to do their dirty work. You might say Starkiller's main purpose was to root out rebels. The problem being that none of the senators were rebelling until Starkiller (under Vader's orders), went out of his way to inspire them to do so.

Let's say that Mon Mothma, Bail Organa, and Bel Iblis WERE subverting the Empire before TFU (which was canon for years). Why couldn't Sidious use a bit of political maneuvering to expose them? Why did he have to go through all the trouble of nursing yet another viper?

Sidious and Vader essentially created a problem so that they could solve the problem. I guess they were bored.

I hoped the novelization would answer some of the foggier points of the plot. The author never does. He never even makes the attempt.

The story did have its strengths. Juno's character development was great. I felt for her. I even felt for Starkiller to some extent, even though he at times seemed willfully naive or plain dim.

I wasn't expecting much when I started reading the sequel. But miraculously enough?

Vader's motives were understandable and straight-forward, without the needless twists. Clone-Starkiller's goal of finding Juno was obsessive but sympathetic. Juno's progression from an Imperial to where we see her in TFU2 is organic, believable, and intriguing. We see the distinct diplomatic styles of the rebel leaders Bail, Ackbar, Kota, Mothma, Iblis, and even Princess Leia herself. We meet Tarkin and learn why the Alliance is a personal sore spot for him.

TFU2 is where the PT atmosphere finally begins to mold into the OT. It's the true "child", if you will, of those two breeds.

Strange to say this. I believe it's an underrated story.

Ronster said:

 

Reegar said:
If you're going to recycle the Death Star anyway, I don't know how planet destruction is one too far.

To blow up a whole planet to put to rest a Lambda Shuttle full of rebels is stupid

The Gas giant Endor has no strategic value and really cannot be given one.

So I'm calling for more Rebel capital ships to bite the dust. It's the only way of showing the terror of the deathstar slowly destroying the Rebels and they must stop it before it destroys them all.

 

I was speaking in general.

I prefer Kashyyyk to Endor, Wookiees to Ewoks, but I could have lived with the less than ideal choices had they been presented for a wider demographic. Meaning ANH and ESB were for all ages while the Battle of Endor in ROTJ was strictly for children. The entire final battle of this galactic war can only be fully appreciated from the perspective of a child. That is a let-down to me.

If you're going to recycle the Death Star anyway, I don't know how planet destruction is one too far.