RayRogers

xxyz said:

Hey guys
Where can I find the non dnr Version?
Searching a few times, but can’t find it and the Usenet Files are Offline.
Can someone help? The Bluray DNR Version are very bad 😦

Thanx a lot

The current Director’s Cut Blu-ray disc release for STAR TREK II: The Wrath of Khan is still the best looking out of the TOS films since it received a full 4K restoration. Original color timing too.

RANDOM!

Are the Blu-ray discs for Bedknobs and Broomsticks along with Mary Poppins fine?

From Caps-a-Holic.com

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&a=0&d1=6487&d2=6476&s1=61202&s2=61223&i=0&l=1
http://www.caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&a=0&d1=6487&d2=6493&s1=61202&s2=61278&i=0&l=1

US Blu-ray Warner Bros. Home Entertainment

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00004.MPLS
Length: 2:06:19.863 (hⓂ️s.ms)
Size: 28.339.040.256 bytes
Total Bitrate: 29,91 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description

VC-1 Video 22338 kbps 1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description

Dolby Digital Audio English 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby TrueHD Audio English 1694 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1694 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB)
Dolby Digital Audio French 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio German 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio Italian 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 96 kbps 1.0 / 48 kHz / 96 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Portuguese 192 kbps 1.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB

• Dolby Digital Audio Japanese 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
  Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description

• Presentation Graphics Japanese 17,557 kbps
  Presentation Graphics English 19,485 kbps
  Presentation Graphics English 21,168 kbps
  Presentation Graphics French 17,860 kbps
  Presentation Graphics German 18,431 kbps
  Presentation Graphics German 18,986 kbps
  Presentation Graphics Italian 17,864 kbps
  Presentation Graphics Italian 18,152 kbps
  Presentation Graphics Spanish 18,691 kbps
  Presentation Graphics Dutch 18,001 kbps
  Presentation Graphics Chinese 15,937 kbps
  Presentation Graphics Korean 13,575 kbps
  Presentation Graphics Spanish 18,828 kbps
  Presentation Graphics Portuguese 17,980 kbps
  Presentation Graphics Danish 16,173 kbps
  Presentation Graphics Finnish 17,157 kbps
  Presentation Graphics Norwegian 17,520 kbps
  Presentation Graphics Portuguese 18,913 kbps
  Presentation Graphics Swedish 16,020 kbps
  Presentation Graphics Chinese 38,077 kbps
  Presentation Graphics Korean 29,597 kbps
• Presentation Graphics Japanese 39,835 kbps
• Presentation Graphics Japanese 0,561 kbps

Needs a 4K remaster. Especially with both video and audio being low bitrates. Could look and sound even better.

^…^ said:

I was sure the LD had a different color grading; lately, another member did a capture and discover that it is identical to DVD, so at the moment there are two official gradings, LD/DVD/HDTV (open matte, don’t know if exists an OAR version) and BD/HD DVD.

The LD/DVD/HDTV is original (At least the 1999 DVD) and DVD (newer)/BD/HD-DVDbut ths the revised. Already mentioned the current BD/HD DVD doesn’t have very good compression. Would be nice to have a 4K scan with both color timings. Would WB do it? My guess is they’d release other movies first before getting around to it.
My take is the BD is the best video source for current color timing and the HDTV, even though
it’s open matte and better compression (details), for OG color timing. Take note LD and DVD both have lower color space compared to UHD/BD/HD DVD. I even own certain releases of titles from two separate countries and companies with wildly differing color timing.

(i.e. Mona Lisa. The USA Image Entertainment uses a vastly outdated transfer, is a much older release, while the newer UK ARROW Video disc is a brand new glorious 4K scan. Proper color, compression, and film grain retention.
http://www.caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&a=0&d1=6123&d2=6124&s1=57752&s2=57764&i=2&l=1)
A better example would be another stylized science fiction or action film which received a full remaster compared to what the drama received above. Of course if a film has more than one official cut, said cuts need to be directly compared to each other if they vary in terms of color timing.

YMMV.

Isn’t the English Dolby TrueHD 5.1 on the Blu-ray disc also -4 db? (Might need to look on Caps-a-Holic.com though.)

PNG is superior to JPG since the former is lossless with better compression and the latter has more artifacting. So for image comparisons, PNG should always be the option clicked on regarding Caps-a-Holic.com

I wouldn’t fully trust Amazon UK reviews. Better to browse various forums regarding the video and audio side in specific threads. Seems to me that person who left the review is a Twilight Time fanboy. More research needed though. (See if DVDBeaver mentions anything. Same goes for Blu-ray.com forum, AVS, HiDefDigest.)
I dunno, really.

Beber said:

I know all that, but it doesn’t seem to be the actual original 1999 color timing. I’ll ask the Cinémathèque what year their print is from.

One of the main reasons I’m still keeping the DVD released in '99. WB needs to give The Matrix a proper remaster anyway since the Blu-ray disc release, even the HD DVD too, uses a far older transfer. Random mention but I do own the video game THE MATRIX: Path of Neo for PC (IMO far superior to Reloaded and Revolutions) which also uses clips from the films. Really don’t remember what color timing those clips were in-game though, for the first film. Should be a video on Youtube from someone either making a custom cutscene compilation or playthrough.
Maybe color matching?

Beber said:

I thought so, too. Now I’m pretty sure that it is not.

The original release DVD has the same color timing as the HDTV which is once again from the original cinematic color timing.

Beber said:

Okay, so I just got back from a 35mm screening of “The Matrix” in the French Cinémathèque in Paris, France. It had French subtitles and I am not aware of any rerelease of the movie, so it was most likely a print from 1999. And I was shocked to see that the Blu-ray is actually not that far from being alike in terms of color grading. It’s not accurate in every part, that’s for sure, but man, the 1st color grading we’ve seen on video back in the day is dead wrong, and it was not the same as the 35mm scan released by our pals here either. Some parts looked alike, that’s for sure, but the Blu-ray also in other parts. And when toying with the color temperature on my TV screen from medium to warm and sometimes the other way around, I manage to closer match the Blu-ray with what I’ve just seen in 35mm.

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&a=0&d1=5187&d2=5338&s1=48357&s2=49800&i=0&l=1

The HDTV for the screencap is the original cinematic color timing. The Blu-ray is the revised one which matches the sequels.

One, use Caps-a-Holic.com with PNG clicked along with full-screen comparisons to check. Twilight Time usually has shite compression so I’d automatically use Arrow instead.
Two, both appear to be the original audio. Twilight Time (Re-release) uses lossless DTS-HD Master Audio at 48kHz, 24-bit and the UK Arrow uses uncompressed LPCM at 48kHz, 24-bit.
Three, I don’t really think it needs it but other Sam Peckinpah movies should. (Great or adequate HD video with film grain perhaps on The Getaway and The Wild Bunch but with uncompressed Laserdisc audio.)
Four, the Limited Edition is currently on sale on Arrow Shop for only £12.99/$16.83. https://www.arrowfilms.co.uk/shop/index.php?route=product/product&keyword=Bring &product_id=887
(IMO Twilight Time aren’t worth it to own at all.)
Five, best to focus on titles which have far less than adequate Blu-ray disc releases from around the planet. i.e. the aforementioned Sam Peckinpah titles.

I’d love to see an HD (1080i/p) preserved 2-Disc custom BD25s for both uncensored cuts of Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid. 2005 Special Edition (115:08) and the 1988 Turner Preview Version (121:28). Maybe even a Theatrical Cut reconstruction too on a BD25. BUT my guess is Warner Archive will eventually release an awesome pressed Blu-ray disc for it.

Papai2013 said:

To each his own then. Let it rest at that.

I have a better idea. Why not work on preserving a film print which doesn’t have a proper or any Blu-ray disc release at all on the entire planet?

Papai2013 said:

@dvdmike, maybe. But there’s just something else, watching a film print. It’s like getting transported back in time. An experience, that you won’t get from watching clean digitised video.

Anyway, the print has been sold, so that’s that.

I’m not DVDMike but I’ve seen some awesome BD and UHD releases which have received painstaking 4K and greater remasters which preserves all film grain including original color timing. Why would I want to watch a worn print? I’d rather feel as though I’ve been transported in time seeing the film in pristine condition within the first few days of release.

This is awesome and I still only have the DVDs, R1 DVD for Season 1, 4 & 5 along with R2 UK for S2 & S3. No doubt I figured the Mill Creek would have great video but it’s lacking subtitles of any sort and the aforementioned few missing songs.
Guess handbrake would be ideal to take MKVs of the episodes and add English srt files for the subtitles. I’d want both regular and SDH ones.

EDIT: DO NOT apply any DVNR or EE! Leave the film grain as-is!

I’m interested in this but without the English dubs. Just the OG Japanese broadcast versions uncensored with Japanese audio and English subtitles.
Or maybe not.

Ronster said:

RayRogers said:

No chance for just an Extended Edition which would essentially be the longest running time cut without the unneeded George Lucas-esque tinkering?
Guess not.

It won’t be possible to do this edit without some tinkering. I will not be adding any dinosaurs or anything like that. If I do something it will not be in bad taste. That wormhole animation is basically the same thing.

How do I extend the footage using the deleted scenes of the gate opening for the second time without doing some tinkering?

It just won’t work without it… I am going to go for updating some special effects mattes I won’the be touching anything else. I want to have fun and learn something in the process.

I think the animation is a nice update and it is not radically different. Extending the footage is very radical and requires a lot of tinkering and far more work.

Should I add the staff weapon effects missing in the special edition?

Is that tinkering because they put the footage in without bothering to finish the effects?

There’s also a big effect missing for Caveman Ra’s abduction

I got the music sussed for extending entering the gate now but the sound effects need work. I will post a version soon and I think I discovered a music cue in the process. But I have also had to make it work…

Finishing effects as long as it looks similar to the current Blu-ray disc, in terms of quality negating resolution, is fine to me. Guess I’d consider it sorta similar to BLADE RUNNER: The Final Cut and STAR TREK: The Motion Picture - The Director’s Edition.

RU.08 said:

My focus is on the animations. I can get 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea scanned if you want to pay the fees (about $800 or so all up).

Not interested in the animations. Good luck anyway.

No chance for just an Extended Edition which would essentially be the longest running time cut without the unneeded George Lucas-esque tinkering?
Guess not.

If this was more about the live-action compared to animated Walt Disney Pictures/Studios output, I’d’ve been way more interested. i.e. 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, The Black Hole, etc.
Top priorities should be The Sword in the Stone and any other titles which were heavily DNR/EE for their Blu-ray disc releases. Leave the film grain! These movies should have the original cinematic logo before the film anyway.

I’ve read the UHD for this film is remastered but the Blu-ray disc still looks crap. HD DVD compared to the Blu-ray disc (Too much DNR/EE. KEEP the film grain!) is one to get.
BUT, if someone did do a 4K scan of this and made a custom BD25 or BD50, it’d be awesome. Honestly, I’ve no clue if the DTS-HD Master Audio is good on said BD since I’ve never had the chance to watch it.

I highly trust Nolan to do an excellent job with the full 4K resotration. Also gonna get the eventual UHD boxset of The Dark Knight Trilogy, which will obviously have the remastered BDs included.
This project is officially dead in the water now since it’s using the original released Blu-ray disc. Good effort while it still lasted.

Sampistola said:

But it will be kept uncensored and the details

Regarding BDRebuilder. (It’s an awesome program.)
All it does is reconfigure a dual layered Blu-ray disc down to single layer. It can also remove any unwanted audio and subtitle tracks. As I mentioned, only keeping the English audio, the commentary, and the English subtitles. Then making it an ISO to be burned out via IMGBurn.
THEN it’ll be the second disc with the offical USA Blu-ray disc release I own.

Any updates?
Glad I own the ALIEN Anthology Blu-ray disc set. (UK release cause it was cheaper at the time and in an Amaray multi-disc case.)
Already grabbed the four FC releases.

Own the 2-Disc DVD and the Blu-ray disc release which has a DVD yet again.
Going to grab the 36.64GB Blu-ray disc and reconvert to BD25 via BD Rebuilder. Dunno if I ought to upload it since it’s easy to do. Just going to remove everything not needed. Only keeping the English audio, commentary, and English subtitles.

English Dolby Digital 2.0 stereo

It’s lossy on the Blu-ray discs. Maybe the Laserdiscs use PCM? Only the 5.1 track is lossless.