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TheBoost said:

Could the lights just be off?

Actually now that I think about it, perhaps that angle doesn't show the blue-screen.

Handman that photo looks great!

@boredom3031 - all I said was that the image is in my opinion the "strongest indication yet" that we are getting the OOT officially on bluray. I may have been mistaken about thinking the shot was from the films (although notice Handman's photo shows the bluescreen and that the photo I posted should show the bluescreen if it's a raw BTS photo), but I still think it's an indication of what's coming. After all it looks so distinctly different to how the DVD version (also released on BD) looks. Of course there's no confirmation yet, notice that we know that they have done a new 4k restoration but we don't know any release details - I think that itself is a good sign. It means they're doing the restoration and then worrying about release, instead of announcing it first and then making the restoration fit to the release deadline.

Mike, team -1 have mentioned several times that the scan is 2k and only the newer prints and areas that needed re-scanning were scanned at 4k, the project is at 2k. Poita's scans, I believe, are all 4k (for the SW trilogy).

@lucasdroid - Mike's scans are for his personal usage and for use with Legacy, not for use by others in their film-based projects.

canofhumdingers said:

Pretty sure that's a behind-the-scenes image and not a still from the film. You can see the stump where the wing ends prematurely and some of the set through the window...

Yeah OK I think you're right, but it's a blue-screen shot and the background is black, so it's not a raw behind-the-scenes shot. Disney has regardless chosen a photo they know will invoke (as it did for me) images of the OOT in the minds of the visitors to starwars.com, to me that's still a pretty strong indication that an official OOT is indeed happening.

Hey guys, check out the image on the homepage of starwars.com right now (this is the story associated with it). It has the black-panel R2 from what I assume is their new 4k restoration. This is the strongest indication yet that the OOT is officially on its way to BD!

(click for full size).

mverta said:

I couldn't release it if I wanted to, having been warned explicitly by the powers-that-be.  Nonetheless, I am and will continue do everything I possibly can to get that to happen, but until that's the case, the work still needs to be done - time is the enemy.  And I will continue to try and help other projects however I can. Believe me, this completely and totally and utterly and entirely bums the shit out of me, too.   But you know what? Life is crazy.  Let's just keep the faith and be patient, stay positive, let the Force do what it's gonna do.  Plenty of miles to go yet.

So Mike, would your contacts be aware of any plans to release a newly restored version officially, if such a project was under way at Disney?

Yes I understand what you're saying, and if I'm correct once you've split the film into your "elements" you would group them into the stacks of similar ones and then designate the work for each group to different restorers in the production line, and then put everything back together once they've all been restored. At least I'm assuming that's how it works, or should work, in an ideal environment.

lucasdroid said:

I hope we can all get a drink one day.

Yeah at MikeV's place where we can watch Legacy while we do that. ;)

@Mike - do you think it would have been significantly more difficult to restore that shot in 2k not 4k in 2002 at the time of the DVD restoration?

I'm very happy for you Harmy! And I hope you find a decent accountant to get advice from. :)

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Darth Lucas said:

I meant no disrespect, or to compare said preservation to the GOUT (what an insult that would be), only to make the point that we shouldn't look at any preservation and think 'eh.  good enough.  no need to continue'.  We should always be pushing to improve said projects as a community simply because Disney HASN'T offered to sell us the film in as good quality as it deserves to be.  Again, this isn't to say the 16mm preservation is bad.  Far from it, my friend.  It is absolutely phenomenal and far better than I thought I would see this film in my life.

Ok, but there's still plenty of other films to worry about. SOTS now has a very acceptable release, there's no rush to do it in 35mm, at least not ahead of all the other Disney movies that really need the treatment.

Darth Lucas said:

It's a bit like looking at the GOUT and saying "well compared to what was available before it, I don't see how anyone can complain".  Yeah, it's better than what we had before, but it's not the best that it can and should be.

Wow, that's your attitude towards somebody that has preserved this for you for free? It's not as if Disney sold you this release. It's not your print that you had scanned either.

I got it, and a few others got it, I'm not sure if I should post sceenshots though. It has a purple-tint (especially in the dark areas), the colours are much more vibrant than the 16mm, and it's missing part of a shot with br'er rabbit.

The 16mm is still very good, and it's complete. Compared to what was available before it, I don't see how anyone can be disappointed in having it.

I loved it too, sorry I didn't post yesterday when I watched it!

You could offer to rent it from the seller and then post it to whoever he sells it to directly, if he's willing to close the auction and wait a couple of weeks. That would net him the extra rental cash with no loss. Besides doing that, you may as well let the disc go - I haven't viewed the footage myself, but it's not like it contains long-lost deleted scenes or anything.

If you're talking about my GOUT/HARMY synced version (at 720p), no technical flaws were introduced, yes that's how it looks in the original release. It also has the pixelation at the end, I haven't even bothered to download the corrected version yet as to me that's really trivial and adds to the overall charm of the release.

Encouraging is a positive thing, and that's what I do.

You have a PM.

I found it very interesting that the opticals tend to degrade more than the body of the film, for some reason. I'm certainly not levelling any criticism towards Legacy, decisions like that are up to the restorer - no? Perhaps I should have said that before, I agree with Harmy but I also agree with you that some flaws are in the source and others are introduced in the print. :)

I do agree with you Harmy about the flaws, what I liked most about negative 1's release was the grain levels changing during every scene with optical effects in it. I was reading this forum page (it's very fascinating), and paid particular attention to this comment by Jim Wicks:

I have color restored over 200 classic motion pictures to date, and picked up quite a number of observations.
Typically, I have noticed that the opticals change at a much different rate than the body of the film.
The opticals are the opening title sequence, fades, cross dissolves, and closing credits.
It's as though I am working on two completely different films: the opticals and the body of the film present different challenges.

paszczak said:

I hope my trilogy is salvageable as it comes without additional editions but if Polish audio can't be removed, it's not worth it.

 

Yes, as others have mentioned, the audio can be removed and replaced with audio from another source. If you're interested in seeing some VHS rips of other films, come over to AMPSdeux there are some on there.

It's a shame it got booted off MySpleen, it's not against their explicit rules, they seem to view any Disney as being "high risk".

Cool, I've ordered a disc (from amazon.co.uk since it was cheaper), thanks for the info. Ideally you would regrade both discs and then go through scene-by-scene and select the better source, because in the screenshot you posted the mondo looks much better than the MGM, but in other shots that is not the case.

I was just thinking about the "tuco torture scene", and the fact that not including it was clearly a "creative choice" of the distributor since they did have the entire scene intact on a print and could have included it. It is GREAT that you can include it from your scan, and finally complete the movie. You may want to take the whole 4-5 minute segment from your film so there are no seams with the commercial releases in there, but that's up to you.

Asaki said:

They also may have lost just the teeniest, tiniest, smallest, most insignificant amount of credibility when they threw the Holocron into a blazing furnace meant for biohazard waste, and maybe just a fraction of a fraction of a percentage of credibility when they kicked LucasArts in there with it and slammed the door shut behind them.

I don't know much about the EU so I'm not going to comment on it, but as for LucasArts, frankly it deserved to be dissolved. But the way Disney went about it was stupid.

The point is to use the IB as the colour reference, not the others (certainly not the MGM 4k). But my comment was that the Mondo already looks very accurate.

I have a question though, is the Mondo bluray and the 01 Distribution the same transfer? And if not, does anyone know how the 01 looks?