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#1054078
Topic
Empire Strikes back 35mm restoration feedback thread (POUT) (a WIP)
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I’ve seen several 35mm prints projected in the last couple of years Mav, as I live closeby to a cinema that screens them quite regularly. The most recent 35mm print I saw was Thunderdome and it didn’t look grainy at all for the most part (some comp shots did). It is my understanding, and I could be wrong, that most film grain is in the camera negative because it has to be fast-exposure film - i.e. shot at 24fps or faster if you want slow motion. Later generations of film, including prints, used longer exposures and more sensitive dyes with finer grain fidelity.

I am genuinely surprised there is such a difference between Star Wars and Empire

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#1054075
Topic
Empire Strikes back 35mm restoration feedback thread (POUT) (a WIP)
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poita said:

That is a 38 layer comp vs a three layer comp, plus the empire scene is considerably darker. If you want to compare like with like, look at a well lit interior shot from both films. IB prints have almost no grain, whereas the Kodak stock is considerably grainier.

38 layers? Why?

Sure, as you and I agree SW is much less grainy.

“Like with Like”:

SW
ESB

“Leia with Leia”:

SW
ESB

My question is, is this really how it looked in 1980 or has 36+ years of age on the film stock accentuated the grain?

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#1054033
Topic
Empire Strikes back 35mm restoration feedback thread (POUT) (a WIP)
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Right, but my understanding is that most grain is in the camera negative because it had to be shot at 24fps (or up to 120fps for slow motion), whereas later generations were duped using more sensitive film?

Like with like:

Star Wars
Empire Strikes Back

For the benefit of the forum, I understand poita’s Empire scans were done using state of the art equipment that introduces virtually no “scanner noise”. The “blue-yellow” grain in particular is far higher than is visible on Star Wars. I’m curious as to whether it really represents how the Kodak stock looked in 1980 or whether the grain has accentuated itself over time?

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#1037588
Topic
Beauty and the Beast - 35mm "Help Needed" (a WIP)
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Swift S. Lawliet said:

But this bootleg is still interesting, even if it’s unnecessary to this project, since it had 640kbps Dolby Digital audio on a standard DVD.

Something many people though was impossible, most people thought than 448 was the maximum, guess they were wrong.

The DVD specification limits AC-3 tracks to 448kbps. You can go beyond that bitrate with DTS, PCM, or MPEG-2 audio. If your disc has a 640kbps AC-3 track all it means is that it isn’t within DVD specifications, it’s certainly possible (and quite easy) to create such a disc.

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#1035714
Topic
The Original Trilogy restored from 35mm prints (a WIP)
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I’m very sorry to hear about the damage.

Looks like power’s back on for most residents of the town (according to Mudgee Guardian), but there are 1,716 households still without power.

Blue_Harvest said:

Of course that would be very nice to see (for those are not used to manipulate 35mm reels), unless this take you too much time to do.

Here’s the sample poita posted showing the sountrack on reel 1 of the uk print:
https://mega.nz/#!uUVw1ZhA!z0ochw4-zQ4bMUeyCHPJGaJJvzwkiGVMR9Uruecg0VQ

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#1032306
Topic
team negative1 - star wars 1977 - 35mm theatrical version (Released)
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Harmy said:

The best way, I found to make an MKV from a BD with multiple crawl, or seemless branching in general (tested with the official BDs, not this but I’d assume it would be the same) is to import not the m2ts files into the muxing program, but the playlist file corresponding to the version you want.

That’s true, but Makemkv does a better job at joining multiple M2TS files than mkvtoolnix in my experience. Mkvtoolnix gives some error frames at joined points sometimes for some reason (I’m pretty sure it did this on one of my Alien discs, so now I only use MakeMKV to convert .MPLS to .MKV).

Hagdorm said:

RU.08’s suggestion seems to be spot on though. The file is a little smaller, but I couldn’t detect any difference in quality between screenshots, even zoomed in.

That’d be because it’s exactly the same file, but in a different container. The extra size on the BD is mostly just the other crawl, the extras on the disc, and the menus.

Hagdorm said:

Yeah, but I want an MKV as well, lol (I really don’t know why, I just kinda do).

Well I know why I want it, so I can stream it from my PC to my TV. Much more convenient than using a Bluray player that might skip, pause, and do all sorts of nonsense while playing!

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#1030024
Topic
team negative1 - star wars 1977 - 35mm theatrical version (Released)
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MrGeekBoi420 said:

Hello there, new poster to this board and thread. I only just heard a few days ago about the Negative1 35mm scan. This seems like a much better alternative than the Harmy Despecialized version.

It’s not perfect, but it is my go-to version for the moment as I prefer it to Harmy’s Despecialized. But that’s not to say I think one is better than the other!

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#1029077
Topic
team negative1 - star wars 1977 - 35mm theatrical version (Released)
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Deloreanhunter12 said:

This is a bit of an unrelated question, but it is pertained to BD-Rebuilder. Is it possible with the program to replace the main video, but keep the menus and everything else in tact?

Yes, if you’re careful. Put the .x24 file in the same folder as the working files, and create a .CMD (batch file) to rename it to the main one and remove the main file. If 00000.mpls is the main file it’d look something like this:

del VID_00000.AVS.264
ren replacementfile.264 VID_00000.AVS.264

Run BD rebuilder, wait for the main movie to extract, then run the CMD file you made. You must do it immediately after it has demuxed and before it has a chance to begin remuxing the file.

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#1026486
Topic
Harmy's RETURN OF THE JEDI Despecialized Edition HD - V3.1
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BadCane said:

I’m kind of ashamed right now. I’m a 23 year old and been a fan for some 15-17 years by now and only TODAY I discovered this. I thought they were renamed back in 1997-1999, when the whole Prequel thing came to life.

HA! Don’t feel bad, I’m still learning stuff all the time. Also, the 1997 SE was a film restoration - no matter how bizarre that might sound! Lucas made changes I think partially because he had the opportunity to do so while the restoration was done.

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#1025990
Topic
Song Of The South - many projects, much info & discussion thread (Released)
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I’m pretty sure you know who it’s from. I’m happy to send it to you if you’re interested. The 16mm scan that’s on Myspleen was done by an OT.com member (that’s probably as much as I should say)! I actually didn’t realise I already had it, I’ve already found ways to “correct” some of the problem frames in avisynth too! 😄

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#1025923
Topic
Song Of The South - many projects, much info & discussion thread (Released)
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That was swift! I thought that would happen, so I nabbed it quickly. Then I realised I already had it - I have the untrimmed version (same encode, but the mkv has trimmed off the lead-in right at the start of the film, 180 frame total). It’s a decent transfer, but it’d be great if we could do our own 35mm scan sometime.