Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda

ChainsawAsh said:

 

And 2001 looks so fantastic because it was shot on 70mm.  Oh, what/who I would do to get to see a 70mm screening of 2001...

In 2001 the Castro Theater in San Francisco showed a newly-printed 70mm print, two showings per night for two weeks.  Every show was sold out.  It was the most beautiful image I've ever seen projected... huge screen, razor sharp from corner to corner, vivid colors, and not a spec of dust in sight.  I hear the print got a little grungy after a few years touring the country.

The crowd was cheering during certain scenes.  An amazing experience.  It made me wish I had seen more films in 70mm.

If you haven't seen it in 70mm, at least get the Blu-Ray... it was made from the 70mm restoration and is a phenomenal image.  It's like bathing in the universe.

Leonardo said:

I would LOVE to see the faces of today's kiddies coming out of the theater just after seeing "2001: A Space Odyssey"

I saw it in the theater in 1968 when I was 8 years old.  So did all of my friends. Most of us liked it, some of us a lot, despite our being admittedly somewhat confused by it. I don't remember any one of us disliking it. I don't think the same would be true today.  In fact, I'm not sure many of today's kids would even make it through the whole thing.  Which is a shame because it remains the truest depiction of being in space, and an artistic masterpiece.  It also has a far better image than today's digitally-made movies (at least that's true for the restored version).

BloodnoseThePirate said:

The thread was then deleted and I was banned.

That's pathetic. A post like that would be welcomed with open arms here.  Talk about insecure!

Bingowings said:

Come AOTC, Padme being a genuine politician and an intelligent woman would continue to fancy the pants off unobtainable Obi but try and be sensible about it.

Teen Anakin (who never gave a moment's thought about Padme as a kid) would suddenly get all hormonal over her but get insanely paranoid that she fancies his guru thus shoving a wedge between them and their friendship.

It also makes for a far more believable vulnerability and turn to the dark side.

Life intervened... my computer has been tied up doing a couple of boxes of audio transfers for someone.

I did finish creating the mergers of reels 1 and 3.  Probably won't do one for reel 2.  Still haven't started the piecewise editing yet.

Anchorhead said:

He also shot the "there is another" scene in Empire without even knowing himself who the other would be.

The smoking gun, to me, is that Yoda says "there is another" and Obiwan doesn't know it.  If the PT reflected George's "vision", then Obiwan knew about Leia and Luke being siblings all along and wouldn't have needed to be informed about this by Yoda.  The fact that after Ep.3, he somehow seemed to forget - then remember - about the siblings AND about Vader being Luke's father, means either that George was just forcing it in after the fact, or that Han was right and Obiwan was seriously senile.

asterisk8 said:

asterisk8.... who is that in your avatar?  I look forward to your posts just to gaze; she's probably 90 by now but I don't care. :)

I wouldn't be surprised if George decided to make some new deleted scenes :)

Maybe it's just personal taste.  Or maybe... I saw 2001 in the theater in 1968 when I was 8 years old.  I wasn't bored at all -- riveted from start to finish.  Perhaps it's a function of the times?

dark_jedi said:

I couldn't agree more, that was one boring and strange movie.

Hey man, don't be dissin' my 2nd-favorite movie of all time!

One of my favorite experiences was at the 70mm revival showing in the Castro Theater in San Francisco, in 2001 in fact... the crowd was literally whooping and cheering during some of the scenes. An incredible movie that is still ahead of its time.

What is this a poll of?  Greatest techie movie of all time?

Moth3r said:

Firstly I looked at the luma levels. It's interesting that there is a substantial amount of "super-white" information in the clip - pixels with a luma value greater than 235, which would normally get clamped when converting to RGB for display. This detail can be recovered by lowering the white level.

I also lowered the black level to roughly where it should be.

Although I didn't come up with anything, I think that some colour adjustments are needed, particularly to reduce the blue levels. The catwalk that Luke and Vader fight on should be more of a steely grey than a blue-grey.

I also had a play with the DeSpot filter for AviSynth. After a bit of parameter tweaking, I was getting some pretty impressive dirt spot removal in the Hoth scenes; the natural film grain was untouched.

Thanks for the feedback.  A couple of questions:

What filter would you suggest for dialing back the white areas?  (in Avisynth, VirtualDub, or Vegas preferred)

Yes, I will back off the blues (and reds).  However, I have to do it scene-by-scene because I'm using several captures and their white balances are not all the same.

I've been scared of DeSpot.  I tried it on the PG, but it always seemed to remove other stuff too.  Even on the DeSpot page, in the sample image the boy has lost his nostril.  I may only use it for the beginnings and ends of the reels, where the spots are most distracting. And I suspect it will work well in the crawl, if I can get it to avoid the stars. If you have any recommended settings, I'd be interested in hearing them.

By the way, I finished merging clips for reels 1 and 2.  I may skip merging clips for reel 2... the results just aren't as good.  So my next step is starting the editing process.  This will be a bit tedious.

Lucas states knowingly:
Digital is like the invention of sound, 3D is like the invention of color. Sound changed everything in movies while color made it better.

Idiocy.  That's like saying that movies are "better" than books.

3D is just another tool.  It depends on the movie and the artistic goal. I seriously doubt that "The Maltese Falcon" would be a better movie in 3D.  It wouldn't even be a better movie in color.  And would all those Chaplin films really be better with sound?  And has anyone succeeded in improving a Lovecraft book by making it into a movie? The closest I've seen was a silent, black and white film (made recently, in the new/improved color/3D era).

Mine did.  Also a special tray for putting the disk in... you DON'T want to try and feed it through where the paper goes :)

I've been watching it, although I'm not sure I'm fully up to date.  I like the "look" of the show, the technology and all. But it's not really a very good story at all... it's pretty ridiculous how everybody keeps all the evidence against the V's a secret.  "We can't tell anyone yet" seems the never-ending mantra. And the son (Tyler) seriously gets on my nerves every time he's on screen.

But I'll tell you what, I don't trust grandma AT ALL.

Inkjet printer on white printable DVDs.

My favorite parts of it were Vader's altered dialog, and the completely changed ending to the dogfight scenes at the end.

twooffour said:

 

That last sentence about Ady "pulling a GL instead of restoring the OOT" or something like that was the dead give-away to me.

 

Yeah that may have been the best line in the whole exchange!

The reason I knew it was a prank, is this:

1. Adywan commits an extremely minor offense

2. in response, Moth3r goes wild as if it was a horrible thing

3. Adywan goes on an outrageous rant, full of expletives at the mod

4. in response to THAT, Moth3r gives a much gentler response, something like, "now be careful, that was almost a bad thing, watch out"

Keeping the ban and leaving the thread shut down for so long took some cajones, though, I have to admit.

I wonder if it's possible for an off-topic post to be off-topic, and have to get moved out of the off-topic folder.  That would be cool.

Can I get a ban too?

I think that's what the "Q21" means, but if you go into the settings you can change it to 18.  It made the file bigger, which I mitigated with fluxsmooth. By my rough calculations I was staying under 8G, but I'm not 100% sure. I'll also have to try your settings, and see which I like better.  Thanks for posting your process!

I notice you're using CRF=21.  Would CRF=18 make the file too big?  It seemed to make a difference in quality when I used 18.

The dark capture of reel 2 is unfortunately framed slightly smaller.  I need to figure out what to do about that.

Yes, it's barrel distortion. I tried correcting it in the Puggo Grande with a VirtualDub filter designed for that purpose, but the results were horrible.  On some scenes it was ok, but on others it was completely unacceptable, such as on the crawl.

There isn't really a fix for it during capture.  The WorkPrinter wasn't initially designed to capture the entire frame of a scope print, and with the enlarged gate you see it.  Frankly, after being upscaled, I think it's pretty minor.

If you want something to play with, I think I still have a raw clip here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/454420238/Tdark.avi