If the distortion is caused by simple brickwall clipping, there are tools for restoring those waves, that on rare occasions, can work surprisingly well.
Lord Haseo said:
And until ROTJ:R comes out I have to be constantly reminded of the gaping plot hole concerning Leia's true mother.
What plot hole is that?
Back in the mid-80s I dated a girl who ran a daycare center out of her home, and the little kids LOVED the ewok adventures. They'd watch them over and over. So I think the ewoks were marketable, maybe even more than they were.
Come to think of it, Luke's plan for rescuing Han at the beginning of ROTJ is about on par with George's strategies for improving the OT.
Hey, it's me. said:
Yeah it was a little too convenient wasnt it. Hobbling around, gets in to bed, says yeah Vaders your father and by the way you've got a sibling, dead.
This kind of thing happens - people near death can hang on until that final bit of closure they've been waiting for. A similar instance happened between my own father and his mother.
It's just classic groupthink.
Ryan McAvoy said:
Plus ROTJ introduces us to great characters like Jabba and The Emperor who are easily as good as ESB new characters (Lando and Boba).
Disagree with you there... the best new character in ESB is YODA, the best of the bunch.
Add Jar Jar too, of course.
I like how the emperor at the end acts as though he is enjoying inflicting pain on Luke. The more Luke writhes in pain, the more the emperor smiles like he's getting off on it. I know it would be more complex and sophisticated if there remained some ambiguity about the balance between order and freedom. But I think a lot of what the empire, Vader, and the emperor did is more easily explained when you realize that at the center of it all is this crazy man who is just bad, and just enjoys hurting people.
Hey, it's me. said:
And your right, whoever puts ROTS close to Jedi needs a labotomy. Or has already had one.
TPM and AOTC provided the lobotomy.
ROTJ is a poorly-conceived movie with ridiculous plot holes and a shoddy structure, that is totally rescued by the wonderful additions of two memorable characters: Jabba, and the Emperor. Every scene with those characters in them are marvelous, and the juxtaposition of a wrinkly old evil sorceror with this high-tech space battle is fabulously done. The climactic scene with Vader, Luke, and the Emperor is on a par with anything in the OT. So despite its flaws, I still rank it close to SW and ESB. I think anyone who puts ROTS even close to ROTJ must be looking through strange glasses - it's not even close. My ratings:
SW - 10
ESB - 9.5
ROTJ - 8.5
TPM - 3
AOTC - 2
ROTS - 2
Several years ago, there was a rather high-profile fan project that solicited funding from members here. I and many others donated. The project fizzled and was never completed, and since then a number of us have been reluctant to donate to fan projects. Plus, arguably the most significant and successful projects have completed without any funding at all. I certainly wish you luck both in your project and your fund raising, but don't be surprised if you find less enthusiasm for donating than perhaps on other similar forums.
I think the remaining kids (seven!) have already been placed in foster care.
These cases always confuse me. If they're right, God wants them to pray for healing. Why then, if God isn't planning to help, were they asked to pray?
doubleofive said:
He calls them "parts 2 & 3", which is interesting to me.
I think that's a good sign.
I figured the 30th anniversary would be a 6-month orgy, culminating in the release of ROTP !!!
Based on what you say, it sounds like there is a lot on this forum that will be of interest to you.
Harmy agreed to color time it, but I have been so busy at school I haven't done anything in about a month.
On an interesting related note, I will be visiting Prague in early June (right after the semester ends), and so worst-case scenario, I'll hand Harmy a thumb drive then with the raw captures on it, in person.
I used to like some of the changes, like the Falcon blasting out of Mos Eisley, and the ships leaving the moon. But after having had a chance to reflect more closely on the movies in their entirety and as a whole, I now think that all of the changes are crap. Every single one. Except giving credit to James Earl Jones... that was overdue.
Warbler said:
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
Also, the pacing was indeed much, MUCH slower than by today's standards, and stories were drawn out sometimes over 4 weeks, even up to 8 weeks. That's how movies and shows were back then. It's one of the things I enjoy about the old shows, you could really get immersed in a story over a long period of time, and really get to know the characters. Even now, if I watch an old story, I try and watch one installment, then a couple of days later, watch the next installment, etc., instead of bang-bang and its over in an hour.
In America, at least where I live, they showed a whole instead of just 1 part a week.
Interesting... that's not how it was where I was (in Colorado).
When watching old Dr. Who, it is important to remember that they were extremely low-budget weekly serials. So special effects, details, continuity, etc. all suffered as the episodes had to be made very quickly. So it was all about the ideas, plot development, feeding the imagination, unique characters, and the quirky acting by the Doctor.
Also, the pacing was indeed much, MUCH slower than by today's standards, and stories were drawn out sometimes over 4 weeks, even up to 8 weeks. That's how movies and shows were back then. It's one of the things I enjoy about the old shows, you could really get immersed in a story over a long period of time, and really get to know the characters. Even now, if I watch an old story, I try and watch one installment, then a couple of days later, watch the next installment, etc., instead of bang-bang and its over in an hour.
Of the classic episodes, some of my favorites are "Talons of Weng Chang", "Genesis of the Daleks" (which has probably the best climax of any Who episode ever), and "Remembrance of the Daleks". I like the modern episodes too -- "Blink" blew me away. Although some of them are too melodramatic.
davextreme said:
Just to play devil's advocate slightly, I think the whole thing would not be an issue if the SE had been done tastefully from the start. If all it had been was cleaning up some continuity errors and doing some touch ups I doubt anyone would have gotten worked up.
You may be right, but to not preserve and make available the originals would still be wrong, regardless of whether or not a lot of people notice.
But allow me to play a different devil's advocate... I think that one of the reasons that so many people are concerned, is rooted in the fact that the changes were made 20 years later. Had the changes been made 2 or 3 years later (say, in 1979), they would have been viewed by most as creative tweaks. The fact that they were made 20 years later is what is so unprecedented and what also makes the changes so glaringly out of place.
It is hard to imagine any change made 20 years after-the-fact that could possibly be appropriate or relevant. 1997 is a very different time and place in moviedom than 1977. To wit, if George had made tweaks in 1979, they would likely have been very different tweaks than the ones he made in 1997... even if the technology of the late 1990s were available to him. This is evidenced by the change to Han's character with respect to him shooting first -- acceptable in 1977, not acceptable in 1997. This is why it is so dangerous to change movies: in so doing you lose your window to the past.
There are some excellent old episodes. And if you haven't seen Tom Baker as the doctor, you haven't really seen the doctor.
valinkrai said:
I am 20. Really though, I wish George never changed anything, because as neat as some changes are (I'm very fond of the new Jedi ending music), others are awful, and none are worth the issues among fans that arose from the changes.
The main issue has nothing to do with the quality of the changes. History is what it is, and trying to change history is wrong - even evil. Supressing any cultural artifact that had as big of a societal and technological impact as Star Wars did, is wrong regardless of how it is done. It should be available 100% intact, warts and all. Any less is to vandalize an important piece of our heritage.
poita said:
I had a memory of Luke saying to Han, "She's Beautiful" and Han replying "So's life kid", before Luke tries "She's Rich..."
I think our minds expect Luke to say "she's beautiful".
I often disagreed with Roger Ebert, and more usually agreed with Gene Siskel. However, I much prefered listening to Ebert's reviews, because he seemed so down-to-earth, and less pretentious. He seemed like a regular guy who loved movies, and communicated in an entertaining style. He also never hesitated to say when he liked a movie even if it was getting panned by other critics. He and Siskel had an incredible chemistry on screen, even if they weren't really friends.
Hard to believe that Ebert out-lived the much more fit-looking Siskel, by 15 years even. Great quote by Siskel just before his untimely death: "I'm in a hurry to get well because I don't want Roger to get more screen time than I."