Protocol Droid

No, I was hired for the shoot.

PD

If for no other reason, Star Trek is better because I am in this photo:

...and, no, I am not Chris Pine.

PD

I can't.  As most here have already said, they are completely different animals, and by a wide margin.

Having said that, so many of the characters in Star Trek(all of it) are well developed and multi-dimensional, but I think that is largely due to the casting of numerous Shakespearean actors for lead roles and the volume of screen time the characters get.

The newer SW trilogy suffers from wooden acting and one dimensional characters(not Palpatine), and the reasons for that have been chronicled here before.  The OT doesn't suffer from this as much.

Bottom line is I love all kinds of Scifi and these two can't be compared on a 1:1 ratio.

So, what is the point you are trying to prove?

Thanks Bilditup1, 7FN, and You_Too for your nice words about my tape.

Thanks you Puggo for the transfer.  To clarify, the tape already sounded great, Puggo's deck just made sure no fidelity was lost in the transfer.  I.E., there were not any enhancements or changes made.

PD

I just thought I would give Puggo some thanks for taking care of my cassette recording.  I hope that you guys find some value in it (but not monetary).

As a huge SW fan, I love the main focus of this site (GOUT, preservations, restorations, etc), and I feel like I get to contribute something to it with Puggos help.

Thanks Puggo.

PD

I do know that the theater it was shown in (Cine Capri), was considered state of the art in its day and for a long time thereafter. 

PD

Please scan or take pictures of the cassette.  Nice to have a link to the past as part of the package.

It's funny that you mention that as it was exactly my intention to make a photo of the cassette as the cd slipcover.  If you guys just want a photo of the cassette to be the standard issue cover, that would be awesome!  Once you see the cassette with it's great patina, I think you would like it.

It would pay my mom the proper respect.

PD

Well, work has me buried and I hadn't had the time to send the tape out right away, but don't worry...the tape was sent out on Sunday and Puggo has been notified that it will be arriving.

He can speak for himself, but his work has kept him too busy to listen to it even if he had it earlier.  He may have some freed up time now.  I'm sure he will chime in at some point.

PD

Indeed, the reason I so much prefer "close the blast doors" to be IN the original film, is that every single time I saw the film in the theater in 1977, it led to audible laughs in the audience when the "open the blast doors" line followed.  

According to The Starkillers Guide, the 'close the blast doors' was only in the rare mono mix of the film.  You were lucky to have heard that version when the film came out.

PD

I hope i'm not building expectations too high.  I don't have a cassette player anymore and haven't listened to it in at least a decade, so I don't entirely know what to expect.  I don't remember if the crowd was huge and loud or small and quiet.

I'm not even sure if it was a couple of days or weeks into it's premiere here in AZ.   I hope it isn't disappointing.

Either way, it will be nice to share this with all interested parties.

PD

I'm sorry, but I can't tell you what showing it was or how packed the theatre was or even the date for that matter.  I do know it was not opening day, as my friend had seen it before I did (and was using his bike tire gauge as a mock light saber).

I can tell you that my mom loved science fiction anything(SW, ST, 2001, Space 1999, etc), and I got my sci fi education from her (Dad had no interest).  She would do the (top loader) tape recorder thing for just sci fi films, and we would listen to them over and over while playing out the movies in our heads.  Cheap entertainment that made me imagine.  Do kids even do that anymore?  I Doubt it. 

I went to get the SW tape today and I couldn't find it.  I was absolutely horrified and panicked.  I thought 'great, now these guys are gonna think I was lying the whole time'.  I searched for about two hours and it finally turned up in all of it's FedMart glory.  I haven't found the ESB tape yet, but wouldn't have knowingly thrown it out.  I will find it too, but first things first.

Puggo, I got your pm and the tape will be sent to you, just give me a couple of days to send it out.  Please feel free to share your initial observations after you listen to it.

I appreciate the Scofield title as well.

PD

Wow!  There is some great info here.

I was already 99% sure that we saw it at the Cine Capri, as we saw just about every movie there(including SW about 10 times)....sure enough the Cine Capri is on the list.  I guess that would make this a recording of the 70mm print, right?

I am completely ok with someone converting this to digital and sharing it with everyone.  I'm not into making money of of any of it, and whomever could do a transfer and cleanup shouldn't either.  All I would want is my original tape back + a nice cd copy.  Yes?

....oh, and could it be called the 'Scofield copy' or 'Scofield version' or something like that to honor my mom whom made the recording. (thanks mom for giving me the gift of sci fi).

I have an audio cassette recording of The original Star Wars that my mom did back in 1977 when the film came out.  She smuggled a home tape recorder into the theater and recorded the film from the regular seating area.  It has the all of the audience reactions throughout the recording including cheers when the Death Star explodes.  I must have listened to the tape dozens of times in the late 1970’s.  It has a small bit missing in the middle when the tape had to be flipped over.

I’m not looking to sell it or anything of the sort (I know there is no monetary value), but would it contain any information that would benefit the people doing restorations (timing, scene length, content, etc) or help solve questions?  It has not been converted to digital or anything of the sort, it’s just an audio cassette.

She also did one from ESB in the same manner, but i’m not sure if these are of any help to anyone.  I just thought I would throw this out there.

What do you guys think?

It seems to me that Vader in Ep3 shouldn't have looked exactly like Vader in Ep5.  Shouldn't Vader have had something akin to a crude Mark I outfit, then by the time he appears in Ep4 20 years later, there would be some advances in the suit to improve quality of life.  He would then be wearing a Mark III type of suit. 

It seemed more like they did this for the 'Look, it's Vader!' effect.

In fact, Ep3 felt a bit like 'The gang's back together' with the marketing, but I digress....

What about this guy's poster?  This seems kinda rare:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1983-Star-Wars-Jedi-Adventure-Center-SUPER-RARE-Mondo-/280619062171?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item415633139b

Is it real?  Did anybody ever see this exhibition?