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#787879
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Going away? Post so here!
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Warbler said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

He should also take into consideration that just because we aren't constantly mentioning him in conversation, that doesn't mean we don't want him back.

For example, I wish Ziggy Stardust would return as a regular poster, but I don't mention him in every other post I make; it's not because of indifference -- there's just not much impetus to bring him up in conversation when he's no longer an active/lingering presence here.

truth.  There many forum members that I wish would make a return that I don't mention all that much.  For example: Gaffer Tape, C3PS, Ferris, and some most here never heard of like  Bossk, mottie_soL, GundarkHunter, Shimraa, Yoda Is Your Father, Darth Chaltab, and ricarleite.   Just because I do not mention these people every day does not mean I do not wish they would return. 

 I think he was more interested in proving me wrong than truly considering what he said to be true...or so I surmise...I rarely speak with him due to the frequency with which we swiftly run into misunderstanding...

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#787760
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Going away? Post so here!
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DuracellEnergizer said:

He should also take into consideration that just because we aren't constantly mentioning him in conversation, that doesn't mean we don't want him back.

For example, I wish Ziggy Stardust would return as a regular poster, but I don't mention him in every other post I make; it's not because of indifference -- there's just not much impetus to bring him up in conversation when he's no longer an active/lingering presence here.

 I believe he was primarily venting at me and had no intention for his words to have any real substance here...in hindsight that was probably not a fair post to link to. Yet you might understand my decision to do so...I detect in Trident a certain petulance that might lead him to lash out in such a way so that he might say exactly what he does not mean simply to have an effect...but I may be wrong...certainly if he does occasionally read posts here as he claims he has no good excuse not to clarify the matter...I will be more than happy to supply a new apology... ;-)

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#787759
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Going away? Post so here!
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Possessed said:

That forum is hilarious.  Not that I have ill-feelings toward anybody in particular that's posting in it.  Although on it T claims nobody here wants him to come back/cares if he comes back because he "checked"... but I seem to recall more than one poster saying that they wished he would.  Guess he should come back and look harder!

 Yes, it has a certain element to it that takes some getting used to. Naturally having had a Catholic background I am well versed in some of the common elements that posters typically gravitate towards...it does provide some opportunities to ask interesting questions...while my Philosophy Thread continues here to languish... ;-)

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#787757
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Going away? Post so here!
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TV's Frink said:

Post Praetorian said:

So perhaps I should have simply posted a link originally...at this point I do not suppose it truly matters...

Trident H

 I see a bunch of fetus pictures there...I don't think you want me posting.

Yes, I could imagine you bringing on migraines for the moderators ;-) ...yet seemingly they tolerate a number of atheists there so there is some leeway to the discussions...I find it an interesting site due to my interest in philosophy and psychology. It is why I directed Trident there...I imagined it would either assist him, or provide an opportunity to see how he was received. It has been a mixed result...

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#786170
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If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
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*cough* ...and here I sit all alone in my philosophy thread waiting for visitors...

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Philosophy-Thread-Where-Serious-Questions-May-Be-Discussed/topic/17361/

...yet for what it is worth I describe myself as a Weak Atheist with regards to belief in a god and a Reluctant Agnostic with regards to knowledge supporting the existence of the divine...for while I admit to lacking sufficient evidence to claim with certainty that a god may or may not exist my assessment thus far is that no such deity is in evidence...yet I would be willing to change my mind should such a sufficient case be made...

I am willing to accept that this may be considered a positive belief in the lack of a deity, rather than a strict lack of belief, given that I once did believe and now no longer do (as opposed to having never previously believed at all)...for clearly there must needs have been some evidence that caused me to no longer believe...

As such I would be willing to concede it might have some religions overtones given that it is a subject based upon a belief in the wrongness of a former belief...yet to consider that one's religion might merely be to disbelieve in god(s) is seemingly strange given religion's common association with the divine...nevertheless, if one must be true to proper semantics I would be willing to concede such a ground...for it does me no great harm...and do I not fill in my current stance under the section labeled religion when given a census?

So yes, as one of my hobbies I might describe myself as a former-stamp collector given my previous experience in the field...

It is good to see you are all alive and well... ;-)

Regards,

Praetorian

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#785934
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Share your good news!
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darth_ender said:

The Joint Commission came to our hospital yesterday and the day before. 

 I was previously unaware that hospitals may have allowed such a level of ah, hand-rolled pacifiers(?), that it might have required such a commission...it is good that Possessed was not in attendance...!

I apologize for not congratulating you further as I believe you did truly already receive your quota...also fall is coming and you will not wish to have difficulty pulling on your sweaters...nor might you desire to have to repurchase an entire collection of artificially enlarged hats... ;-)

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#785933
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The Philosophy Thread - Where Serious Questions "May" Be Discussed
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thejediknighthusezni said:

       Being the creator of a compass doesn't automatically confer the status of sole compass orientater. The North Magnetic Pole has something to do with it.

       A potter determines the form of the jar. Once formed, the jar has an intrinsic, objective nature of it's own. It has a certain capacity, resilience, portability.... The jar's nature and utility is dependent upon the Logic that informs the physical constants of the multiverse and this is independent of the opinions of potter.

      The potter might, if sufficiently reasonable and informed, be able to judge whether the jar is adequate to it's task and worthy of respect or casting into a rubbish heap.

      Things become more complicated with sentient creatures. There is a necessity to impose justice for immorality and reward for morality. Needless cruelty must be deterred, unjust suffering must be given meaning, and transcendent principle must be upheld. To do otherwise is unjust and immoral, if these terms have any meaning. 

It is possible...while perhaps an unaided humanity might simply devolve without a concept of what might benefit society relative to its opposite...?

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#785931
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The Philosophy Thread - Where Serious Questions "May" Be Discussed
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TV's Frink said:

Post Praetorian said:

Danfun128 said:

Time for more serious questions! [flat]Yay![/flat]

This is specifically about morality. First of all, am I right in assuming that moral absolutes means that morals never change, ever; and that moral relativism means that morals change over time? Is Moral Relativism and Moral Absolutes a dichotomy, or is there middle ground? Also, where do morals come from, if not from God? While I feel that some morals change over the years, shouldn't there be a foundation for others?

Morality might be considered a construct in that it appears to spring forth from the notion that there are certain behaviors that seemingly advance society relative to others that might pose a hindrance. Morality affixes a concept of positivity to the actions deemed right, while the label of immorality is reserved for those acts that might otherwise lead to wrong or a weakening of social fabric. 

This may better help explain why it may appear that morality has often shifted over time...rather than needs appealing to the concept of a god as acting as chief arbiter of mankind's moral compass... 

 Hey, you're back.

Hi!

 Thank you for the welcome...I have returned...to ellipse you all...to death... ;-)

I have certainly missed this place. I wish I had more time though, as I am very behind on these threads...!

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#785801
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The Philosophy Thread - Where Serious Questions "May" Be Discussed
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Danfun128 said:

Time for more serious questions! [flat]Yay![/flat]

This is specifically about morality. First of all, am I right in assuming that moral absolutes means that morals never change, ever; and that moral relativism means that morals change over time? Is Moral Relativism and Moral Absolutes a dichotomy, or is there middle ground? Also, where do morals come from, if not from God? While I feel that some morals change over the years, shouldn't there be a foundation for others?

Morality might be considered a construct in that it appears to spring forth from the notion that there are certain behaviors that seemingly advance society relative to others that might pose a hindrance. Morality affixes a concept of positivity to the actions deemed right, while the label of immorality is reserved for those acts that might otherwise lead to wrong or a weakening of social fabric. 

This may better help explain why it may appear that morality has often shifted over time...rather than needs appealing to the concept of a god as acting as chief arbiter of mankind's moral compass... 

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#781630
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If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
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'Twas a terrible day, that time of my stay,

When the basement did flood--and, no, not with mud

And though caused by the tenants, they now have prevented

From collecting what's due, so trouble'll ensue

And now they'll not pay, even though they did stay

I'm two months out of pocket, with no way to stop it!

The ground now is clear, and the account I do fear

But until my return, this trouble I'll spurn

No good will it do, to further pursue

And if never again, I rent property to them

It should be no surprise, because now I am wise

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#781628
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Going away? Post so here!
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Neglify said:

Post Praetorian said:

It is a religious/philosophy site...more about questions and answers threads, but a lot of off-topic ones as well. I simply imagined posting links to alternate forums might be construed as spam.

That would not be spam at all. 

 Well I do not really know the rules about that...perhaps I am being over-careful...I am also not quite certain that an easily accessed permanent direction of where to find his latest antics (some of which are fairly raw) is really up to me to post. I will have to ask Trident if he cares that such a link may endure in a public record such as this one. I am not quite certain he has really thought this through...

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#781549
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Going away? Post so here!
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I have realized that over the next several days I will likely be too busy to browse this site aside from responding to the occasional PM. This means that I really only have Saturday left. I will check in at the end of the day to sign off.

But before I forget again, one item that I have been meaning to mention is that I have had an update from Trident. I had sent him a link to a site where he might gain some assistance for his problems and recently he acknowledged that he is spending a fair amount of time there. He mentioned that anyone who wished could drop by to visit (he still resists returning here for some reason), but as it is a different type of forum I do not feel I should be posting the link here.

PM me if you are interested and I will direct you accordingly...

Regards,

Praetorian