Octorox

doubleofive said:

 

fffffff said:

how about post a video on youtube asking GL to give us a poper release.

It could help.

 

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I was thinking the same thing. We need a video showing the lackluster quality of the GOUT, comparing it to, say, Ady's AVCHD version. Like a commercial!

Got a response back from Grant Imahara! He said the OOT is the only reason he still has a laserdisc player. I replied that we deserve it on blu-ray and asked him to pass the petition on!

 

That is awesome. Love Mythbusters. I be constantly checking the petition to see if he signs.

zombie84 said:

I'm not sure if Youtube would be capable of displaying the resolution needed to distinguish it properly though.

Youtube can do 1080p now. If we want to compare what the films could look like on blu-ray to what they look like now it could work.

ImperialFighter said:

Good stuff Jay, and I really like the final wording you've come up with for this latest petition requesting a decent Blu-ray release for the OOT.

Whether GL decides to tinker even more with the colour/sound/'creative choices' of his 'Special Editions' for their Blu-ray debut or not, or even if he adds a couple more extra bells and whistles to them for their eventual '3D conversion' release....an anamorphic, cleaned-up release of the original, unenhanced theatrical versions is definately long-overdue.

 

There is no such thing as an anamorphic blu-ray and there would be really no point to do a whole new transfer and restoration and then just release it on DVD. I'm hoping for something akin to the Blade Runner and Close Encounter's releases, with all 3 cuts (plus the final cut or whatever) via seamless branching.

Hi. Is there any filter than can correct by color in FCP? That is, I could desaturate just the blues or make just the reds more yellow. I know Photoshop has this and I'm sure Color does but it would be easiest for me to do this directly in FCP. Thanks.

Film, like all art forms (and I like to look at it as an art created by artists, not as entertainment products created by a corporations), can not be entirely separated from politics. I just don't get why so many people hate on films that decide to do it honestly and upfront rather than try to be tricky and subliminal. Wall-Es political undertones were honestly and subtly integrated into the story by the filmmakers and were not Disney propaganda. Even Jaws (Vietnam) and Star Wars (Cold War) had political context. I find it far more grating when films try to "sell" themselves by just giving people what they want to see and what will make the most money. Let's agree to disagree.

As for 3D, I saw UP and 3D and loved it. I'll definitely see Avatar in 3D just for the spectacle, but I'm not sure I like what Iv'e seen in the trailers.

EyeShotFirst said:

Monroville said:

that would be a rack... for your guns... in your truck...

My girlfriend said to stop posting pictures of her on the net.

What? She's cheating on me with....you? You can't be serious!

Darth Editous said:

Octorox said:

ummm....Maybe it's because the metal is gray? I don't see why it would be blue, honestly? Have you ever thought the color of the metal is gray and the light is neutral toned? It's not necessarily fluorescent light, honestly if the scene is perfectly white balanced the metal SHOULD be gray. I find blue metal for more strange.

You're right that the colours on the DVD are awful, but unless everything in a space is neutrally coloured, and the lights are all identical, nothing will be perfectly grey. Light bounces around all the over the place (moon landing deniers, I'm talking to you! ;) ) It's often an incredibly subtle effect, but when it's gone your brain knows - there's something about that pic that just makes me squint.

Edit: Radiosity! That's the word I'm looking for:

DE

I agree, but if space is black, the ships are gray, the lights are white, the floors are gray, the walls are gray then what colors are reflecting? In your picture it was the red floor was reflecting light. And even so, Ady's versions are not perfectly gray, they are slightly blue, because starlight is blueish.

Gaffer Tape said:

Sluggo said:

I love the idea of Imported Hoth Water.  Moisture Farmers.  Weird.  Maybe the taxation of water along the trade routes was just too expensive. 

Wow, you're right.  That "taxation of trade routes" angle sounds like a great idea too.  Maybe someone should make a Star Wars movie about that!

They made a Star Wars movie about taxation and trade routes. They had to throw JarJar in every seen to keep people interested...

Lol. Nice rack, focus! funny, guys :p Didn't know Vaderios was a hot chick...

Anyway, a rack focus as when the focal length shifts in the middle of the shot. It's what Vaderios did in his mockup.

ummm....Maybe it's because the metal is gray? I don't see why it would be blue, honestly? Have you ever thought the color of the metal is gray and the light is neutral toned? It's not necessarily fluorescent light, honestly if the scene is perfectly white balanced the metal SHOULD be gray. I find blue metal for more strange.

Nice rack focus Vaderios!

Personally, I think a lot of the scenes they cut would have cleaned up some of the plot holes in the film (what was Nero doing all those years?) and strengthened the character relationships (specifically Spock). The only scene that I don't think should be put back in is the scene where Kirk apologizes to the Orion girl who ends up not being Gaila. There is really no reason to include a whole scene to set up one joke, there is no plot or character development there. Honestly, It almost makes Kirk look more douchey, which probably wasn't the intention.

This seriously had me cracking up!

http://www.paramountscreenings.com/

Transfomers 2 for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Film Editing? LOL! The only thing it has a chance in is effects and maybe sound.

Here's something slightly more related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfBRVTyRXYk

I like how the color is more like Ady's versions than the 04 DVDs

On the games side

Super Mario RPG (almost straight JRPG with a few Mario elements)>(spiritual sequel)Paper Mario (Many more platforming and action elements thrown in)>(quirky sequel)Super Paper Mario (2D Platformer with heavy RPG elements)

That doesnt include PM: TTYD which was pretty much a straight sequel of Paper Mario and the Mario and Luigi games, which are like spiritual sidequels to the Paper Mario games....weird

Lol that's absolutely hilarious. I love how Chewbacca speaks in keyboard jibberish.

JasonN said:

Color-correction, test 1: "Interior of Amidala's ship"
(the left side is the original video, while the right side is the color-corrected video)

http://www.vimeo.com/7507994

It's extremely subtle, to the point of not really removing the pink caste. I would take a look at Adywan's TPM color correction, maybe use that as a source.

Looks great. However you need to watch out for blues turning into purples. The sky in several shots and Obi's lightsaber looks purple to me.

I'm getting the 64-bit pro version soon via the student discount (a nice $45 dollars), although since Im installing it on my MBP with Snow Leopard I probably wont be booting into it all that often. You can clean install with an upgrade version right? I have a partition with Home Premium Vista 32-bit (which I bought in full but really dont care for) which I just plan to erase and install over.

xhonzi said:

I was thinking about this more on a 2 hour drive I had to make today.  Here are my thoughts:

As I said above, "I think truth is truth, and good is good, and that there are people who wrongly disagree."  I mean by this something similar to what an Atheist believes about believers in God.  The Atheist doesn't believe in God, but he readily admits that believers do.  I don't believe in Moral Relativism, but I readily admit that some people do.  And, more to the point, that a lot of bad people do.  In fact, I think that it is hard to be a truly bad person if you don't believe in Moral Relativism. 

When you watch the Godfather (or Watchmen, or countless others) you see people that are bad, but they don't believe that they are.  They don't sit around and think of themselves as the bad guys.  They think of themselves doing what needs to be done in their circumstances.  Sometimes the storyteller is also telling you that YOU would also do as they do if you were in their circumstances.  Sometimes the storyteller is simply telling you how the bad people rationalize what they are doing so that they can continue doing the things they want to do.

Would you really like to see villains who are simply bad for the sake of being bad?  How interesting is that?  How many people are really like that?  I think an honest non-Moral-Relativistic storyteller has to show the logic that villains use to do the bad things they do.  I think the storyteller can do this without showing Moral Relativity.  Unless the Storyteller begins to make the same case the villains do, and then you have something else on your hands.

Well sometimes there are conflicting motives that are hard to pin down. Like killing people to save other people. Its hard to label someone as all bad or all good because often they a grey, they have a mix. I do believe that people around the world have different values, but I also believe there are universal ideas of what's bad and what's good that we all share.

This is kind of hard to explain so I'll use screen shots

See how the images flow off the window while everything else expands and contracts with it? Images are cut off within the browser. To check that this wasn't just Safari I tried Firefox and indeed it had the same problem

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

Octorox said:

I have to disagree with everyone about the stormtrooper chatter. Even tho it wasnt the best technically it was one of my favorite changes. I did notice the music was mixed very low on a lot of parts tho. Also, I'd pitch up Anakin's VO. He sounds just a little too manly, I feel he should retain Luke's awkward man-boyishness. Also I noticed prevalent fade in fade outs, which goes against Star Wars editing conventions.

 'Prevalent' is the correct word (it was only used, what, twice?). Because the fading out technique was used in ANH. As the droids follow Luke into the garage.

I got to watch it last night and really really enjoyed it! I thought i'd comment on the fades because that didn't actually bother me...it felt very natural...like out of the OT...i feel Lucas should have used it at times in the PT...not just limiting himself to wipes only. Also I would've like Lucas to use more hard cuts...why so many wipes?

I'm gonna write up a full review soon....just thought i'd throw that in there.  ;)

Yeah but a lot of these fades were very long and had audio over them, which never happened in the OT. I think it's interesting but I'm not sure if it fits within Star Wars style

I have to disagree with everyone about the stormtrooper chatter. Even tho it wasnt the best technically it was one of my favorite changes. I did notice the music was mixed very low on a lot of parts tho. Also, I'd pitch up Anakin's VO. He sounds just a little too manly, I feel he should retain Luke's awkward man-boyishness. Also I noticed prevalent fade in fade outs, which goes against Star Wars editing conventions.

Darth Venal said:

Ghost said:

Darth Venal said:

shanerjedi said:

ESB is such a great looking fantasy film.

 Great direction

 Why didn't Irvin Kershner direct ROTJ?  One can only wonder what it would of been.

 

Indeed. Kirschner might have been busy, I forget now. I know Lucas asked him if he wanted to direct Attack of the Clones, but Kirsch declined because of his age. Some people say that's a myth that Lucas asked him, but I was told from a pretty close source that it's true. If only again!

 wow! That's interesting tidbit. Do you think the film would have been shot on 35mm if Kirsh directed it or do you still think Lucas would have pushed for the Sony HDCAM or whatever sub-2k nonsense he shot it on. I really think that film would have been much better and maybe jived better with Phantom Menace (which I actually enjoy quite a bit) if someone else had directed it.

Darth Venal said:

shanerjedi said:

Darth Venal said:

shanerjedi said:

Darth Venal said:

shanerjedi said:

Ghost said:

True 005.  I'd still take him out of the SB battle, unless someone can make the battle unbelievable.

What makes something unbelievable is the difference from ordinary.

So these movies build towards bigger moments. That's why the climax is in the third act, not the first 30 mins.

I think that one's even above cardinal rules.

Yeah, I don't think Hollywood invented that. I think it was the Greeks. :)

Cardinal rules, not carnal rules!

(In that case it would be about 15 minutes.)

Haha! Ah geez. You know what I meant by Greeks. Storytelling! :p

 

 

Yeah I did, but I couldn't resist. :-)

You know, we sing the praises of of explorers and scientists and all the great minds in our history, but no-one ever mentions the guy who discovered that the conclusion of a story should go at the end. I mean, the guy deserves some recognition, no?

I believe that was Ric's revelation