Octorox

ChainsawAsh said:

C3PX said:

I guess the thing that makes cursing "cool" is that it is a "nonconformist" sort of thing to do. Society says swearing is bad, so every would be rebel out there does it.

I've honestly never thought that much about swearing.  I swear because I do.  I'm not trying to be a conformist, or a non-conformist, or cool, or badass, or anything.  I grew up with constant swearing all around me (mainly from my father), so to me, it's just how I talk.

By the way, this thread has veered pretty fucking far away from Avatar and 3D.  (Yes, that was intentional this time.)  So I'll throw my two cents in on this subject as of now:

As I said, I was very underwhelmed by the first trailer.  The second was better, but still not "HOLY SHIT I HAVE TO SEE THIS NOW!!!" by any means.  Now, the reviews are overwhelmingly positive.

So I'm gong to go, with modest expectations, to see it at the Navy Pier IMAX in Chicago on Friday.  I'm not holding my breath for a "revolution in cinema" or whatever the hell Cameron thinks this movie is, but I'm intrigued enough to see it.  I would see it in a regular theater since it wasn't shot in IMAX, but of all types of 3D I've seen, the only one that has ever immersed me properly is IMAX 3D, most likely because the screen envelops your entire field of vision, unlike a regular screen.  So Avatar will be an exception to my usual rule of "see it how it was shot."

If it's good, I'll see it again in 2D to see how that changes things.  The 2D version will also be in the 2.39:1 aspect ratio, whereas the 3D version will be 1.78:1, so that should be an interesting comparison (I prefer 2.39:1 generally, but I see how 1.78:1 would be better for 3D).

Thank you Chainsawash! 

RATLSNAKE said:

Maybe we can suggest if they decide to do this, you know the same day hell freezes over, that they should employ Robert Harris and co. to make sure it's done properly? I'd hate to see pink lightsabers again.

That would be nice, yes?

C3PX said:

Really? What makes you think he/she/it is a lady? You thought the Gaffer was a lady too. Perhaps you just have an inclination to assume people are ladies? Or maybe Octocrox actually is a lady and you know what you are talking about on this one.

As for me, I am still the old fashioned sort that doesn't believe in cursing in front of ladies, and since I have the unfortunate tendancy to let one slip on these forums ever now and then, I like to assume this is a mostly estrogen free zone (with the exception of vbangle, who I believe is made up entirely of estrogen; and who will never know I said this about him because he has me on ignore).

Eh, the ladies curse in front of me all the time so I don't really mind. Maybe it's a generational thing. For me it's an issue of appropriateness. I won't curse in a formal environment at all. I won't curse in front of professors. I won't curse in front of my parents unless out of anger. I won't curse In front of others in a loose environment unless they themselves are cursing. I find it a pretty good balance.

(I like how this discussion has turned from Avatar to etiquette. I will be seriously disappointed if someone tries to "salvage" the topic.)

xhonzi said:

C3PX said:

Octorox said:

(P.S. I realize that my avatar is not lending any validity to the seriousness of my argument)

Take a loot around. Very few of us have "serious" avatars. bkev is a picture of himself with a Megaman helmet, I am an Imagination Land Cylon, Ferris is Lord Helmet, Xhonzi's is Darth Vader being crowned by the Emperor, and ImperialFighter is a tiny stormtrooper with a huge head, Anchorhead's is a picture of a whiny farm boy. And here I have only mentioned a few of the more serious ones...

Anyway, rest assured, your avatar will have no bearing on the perception of your posts content. 

CO's is a picture of a cow swimming with a dolphin...

 Although I am confused... I thought Octorox was a lady... but her/his new avatar has me not so sure...

Evidently my old title "is not a chick" didn't help at all.... Btw If it helps I though Gaffer was a lady for a little bit too....

Reviews have been pretty positive. I think I'm going to make the leap. I looks like it will be a really fun event film and not 2 hours of mind melting mess like Transformers 2 was. And to the person who said it looks like a cartoon, whats wrong with cartoons? I think you guys need to lighten up a little bit ;).

And To VINH, I gotta say that the political connotations of EpIII was really no more overt than any of the political undertones of the OT . You just happen not to agree with with some of the allegorical ties EPIII suggests. It draws just as heavily from other sources like the Vietnam War and the rise of the Roman Empire as it does to the Bush Administration. It deals with the ideas of decietful politicians, conspiracies, and fear mongering which doesn't have to be about the Bush Administration, although some would say it reflects the general climate at the time. Lucas said he was more concerned with referencing Vietnam than Bush.

(Note that I am not defending EpIII as a great film, it is still highly flawed and I believe many reviews (particularly Ebert, and I love that guy!) were very inflated and just didn't have any demands on integrity to the original series)

Also, The reason EpIII was positively received by critics (as I see it)  is because it wasn't boring (like EpII) and it wasn't overtly goofy and childish nor ridiculously overhyped (like EPI). The dialogue was poorly written but it did provide the great spectacle and grand scope that people were looking for.

(P.S. I realize that my avatar is not lending any validity to the seriousness of my argument)

Sluggo said:

Give it time.  The first petition was up for years while people signed it.

All right, maybe I'm being a little impatient. Out of curiosity, how many signatures did the first petition get? Any notable people in the fandom? (Besides Adywan, Mike Kaminski etc.)

ImperialFighter said:

doubleofive said:

I also emailed The Digital Bits directly.

I see they mentioned the site and gave a direct link to the petition.

Nice one.  I always liked that site.

Interestingly enough, I don't see the signature of Bill Hunt, who wrote the article...

doubleofive said:

 

fffffff said:

how about post a video on youtube asking GL to give us a poper release.

It could help.

 

troy

I was thinking the same thing. We need a video showing the lackluster quality of the GOUT, comparing it to, say, Ady's AVCHD version. Like a commercial!

Got a response back from Grant Imahara! He said the OOT is the only reason he still has a laserdisc player. I replied that we deserve it on blu-ray and asked him to pass the petition on!

 

That is awesome. Love Mythbusters. I be constantly checking the petition to see if he signs.

zombie84 said:

I'm not sure if Youtube would be capable of displaying the resolution needed to distinguish it properly though.

Youtube can do 1080p now. If we want to compare what the films could look like on blu-ray to what they look like now it could work.

ImperialFighter said:

Good stuff Jay, and I really like the final wording you've come up with for this latest petition requesting a decent Blu-ray release for the OOT.

Whether GL decides to tinker even more with the colour/sound/'creative choices' of his 'Special Editions' for their Blu-ray debut or not, or even if he adds a couple more extra bells and whistles to them for their eventual '3D conversion' release....an anamorphic, cleaned-up release of the original, unenhanced theatrical versions is definately long-overdue.

 

There is no such thing as an anamorphic blu-ray and there would be really no point to do a whole new transfer and restoration and then just release it on DVD. I'm hoping for something akin to the Blade Runner and Close Encounter's releases, with all 3 cuts (plus the final cut or whatever) via seamless branching.

Hi. Is there any filter than can correct by color in FCP? That is, I could desaturate just the blues or make just the reds more yellow. I know Photoshop has this and I'm sure Color does but it would be easiest for me to do this directly in FCP. Thanks.

Film, like all art forms (and I like to look at it as an art created by artists, not as entertainment products created by a corporations), can not be entirely separated from politics. I just don't get why so many people hate on films that decide to do it honestly and upfront rather than try to be tricky and subliminal. Wall-Es political undertones were honestly and subtly integrated into the story by the filmmakers and were not Disney propaganda. Even Jaws (Vietnam) and Star Wars (Cold War) had political context. I find it far more grating when films try to "sell" themselves by just giving people what they want to see and what will make the most money. Let's agree to disagree.

As for 3D, I saw UP and 3D and loved it. I'll definitely see Avatar in 3D just for the spectacle, but I'm not sure I like what Iv'e seen in the trailers.

EyeShotFirst said:

Monroville said:

that would be a rack... for your guns... in your truck...

My girlfriend said to stop posting pictures of her on the net.

What? She's cheating on me with....you? You can't be serious!

Darth Editous said:

Octorox said:

ummm....Maybe it's because the metal is gray? I don't see why it would be blue, honestly? Have you ever thought the color of the metal is gray and the light is neutral toned? It's not necessarily fluorescent light, honestly if the scene is perfectly white balanced the metal SHOULD be gray. I find blue metal for more strange.

You're right that the colours on the DVD are awful, but unless everything in a space is neutrally coloured, and the lights are all identical, nothing will be perfectly grey. Light bounces around all the over the place (moon landing deniers, I'm talking to you! ;) ) It's often an incredibly subtle effect, but when it's gone your brain knows - there's something about that pic that just makes me squint.

Edit: Radiosity! That's the word I'm looking for:

DE

I agree, but if space is black, the ships are gray, the lights are white, the floors are gray, the walls are gray then what colors are reflecting? In your picture it was the red floor was reflecting light. And even so, Ady's versions are not perfectly gray, they are slightly blue, because starlight is blueish.

Gaffer Tape said:

Sluggo said:

I love the idea of Imported Hoth Water.  Moisture Farmers.  Weird.  Maybe the taxation of water along the trade routes was just too expensive. 

Wow, you're right.  That "taxation of trade routes" angle sounds like a great idea too.  Maybe someone should make a Star Wars movie about that!

They made a Star Wars movie about taxation and trade routes. They had to throw JarJar in every seen to keep people interested...

Lol. Nice rack, focus! funny, guys :p Didn't know Vaderios was a hot chick...

Anyway, a rack focus as when the focal length shifts in the middle of the shot. It's what Vaderios did in his mockup.

ummm....Maybe it's because the metal is gray? I don't see why it would be blue, honestly? Have you ever thought the color of the metal is gray and the light is neutral toned? It's not necessarily fluorescent light, honestly if the scene is perfectly white balanced the metal SHOULD be gray. I find blue metal for more strange.

Nice rack focus Vaderios!

Personally, I think a lot of the scenes they cut would have cleaned up some of the plot holes in the film (what was Nero doing all those years?) and strengthened the character relationships (specifically Spock). The only scene that I don't think should be put back in is the scene where Kirk apologizes to the Orion girl who ends up not being Gaila. There is really no reason to include a whole scene to set up one joke, there is no plot or character development there. Honestly, It almost makes Kirk look more douchey, which probably wasn't the intention.

This seriously had me cracking up!

http://www.paramountscreenings.com/

Transfomers 2 for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Film Editing? LOL! The only thing it has a chance in is effects and maybe sound.

Here's something slightly more related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfBRVTyRXYk

I like how the color is more like Ady's versions than the 04 DVDs

On the games side

Super Mario RPG (almost straight JRPG with a few Mario elements)>(spiritual sequel)Paper Mario (Many more platforming and action elements thrown in)>(quirky sequel)Super Paper Mario (2D Platformer with heavy RPG elements)

That doesnt include PM: TTYD which was pretty much a straight sequel of Paper Mario and the Mario and Luigi games, which are like spiritual sidequels to the Paper Mario games....weird

Lol that's absolutely hilarious. I love how Chewbacca speaks in keyboard jibberish.

JasonN said:

Color-correction, test 1: "Interior of Amidala's ship"
(the left side is the original video, while the right side is the color-corrected video)

http://www.vimeo.com/7507994

It's extremely subtle, to the point of not really removing the pink caste. I would take a look at Adywan's TPM color correction, maybe use that as a source.

Looks great. However you need to watch out for blues turning into purples. The sky in several shots and Obi's lightsaber looks purple to me.