Octorox

thanks for the feedback Hal.

TPM: I agree. Frankly if people got that impression, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, although I hadn't intended it. I've done some color stuff to the flashbacks in my latest cut that will hopefully make them feel a little more clearly delineated as flashbacks. 

On Jango: no, there isn't any line that explains this. What I ultimately would like to do is rotoscope Jango's helmet on for the few shots that he is unmasked, and redub his single line "don't move Jedi!" With a different voice actor. The rotoscoping might be outside my skillset, although in the updated clip I just posted,  I was able to rotoscope over Obi-Wan's face to remove a line of dialogue pretty succesfully. I'm also toying with removing Boba entirely, which would require reframing a few shots and rotoscoping him out of one or two (possibly beyond my skillset)

thank you on the romance plot, although it's nothing revolutionary. It's pretty much "Attack of the Phantom" with the waterfall scene added back in before the kiss. (It always felt a little rushed to me in the Phantom Editor's version) I think not having them revealed to be married until ROTS helps too. There's 3 years of presumed off-screen romance development.

on Padme: I've gone back and forth on this. I think you patched up that plot hole pretty elegantly in your version, but I'm pretty dead set against including the "No" scene, and I always really liked Padme's "there's still good in him" especially as a lead in to ROTJ...part of me would rather edit ROTJ to patch up the plot hole.

running time: basically I'd like to get it down to as close to typical Star Wars length as possible without introducing any plot holes or jettisoning too much character development. Since releasing the workprint I've taken another look at some other edits included Kerr's and managed to cut another 20 min from the film (his cutting of Bail going to the Temple/Yoda leaving kashykk etc is a real timesaver I hadn't considered), so it's at about 2:45 with credits now. I also cut the Yoda/Palps duel. I was pretty adamant to leave it in, albeit cut down at first, because I feel that the Ani/Obi duel is a slog to get through without cutting away to anything and I also think it would be odd if no one tried to challenge the emperor, but a combination of running time and the desire to see Yoda not use a lightsaber got the better of me.

I will probably upload another work print at some point, but I want to get the dubbing done and the surround mixing done first.

So, I recently had the privilege of downloading Team Blu's fantastic Star Wars BD release and have been trying to burn it to a BD25 using my Mac (I have an external Pioneer Blu-Ray drive). First I tried simply burning the BDMV and Certificate files to the disc using Finder but the resulting disc wouldn't play on my PS3. I ascertained that the file system might be the problem so I used the application "Burn" to burn the files using the UDF file system but it still won't play on my PS3. Does anyone have experience burning a Blu-Ray using files on a Mac?

Does anyone know the proper way to burn the Blu-Ray on a Mac (I have an external burner)? I tried burning the BDMV and Certificate folders straight to a Blu-Ray using Finder but it won't play on my PS3

Well I guess I'll have to settle for the six track mix for now, but I would love it if this happened (@hairy_hen, if you're listening, I would be forever in your debt...)

Does something like this exist? I prefer the mono mix of the film because it most closely resembles what most people heard in theaters and is arguably the most “complete” mix but I also like to make full use of my sound system. Some may think something like this is counterintuitive to wanting the original version of the film but I’d love it.

Um, isn't the 81 version just the 77 version with the Episode IV crawl and a slightly different sound mix?

jero32 said:

Think about it. They'd have to redo all the effects done for the 2004 edition like the updated jabba. (well they could do it crappily I suppose...wouldn't be the first time) But also they'll piss off:

 This is not true. The O-negs of the films are still conformed to the 97 theatrical versions. All post 97 changes were done to the 2k digital master. If they did a new scan of the O-Neg it would be the 97 version. From there, if they wanted to restore the OOT theyd have to scan IP prints or the cut pieces of the O-Neg and reedit them back into the film. If they wanted to recreate the 2004 or 2011 version in 4K, they'd have to rerender all the post 97 effects at a higher resolution and reinsert them into the film.

A new cut of the Ani/Obi Mustafar exchange. I tried to cut as much awkward dialogue as. I could but it might feel a bit disjointed now.

https://vimeo.com/100856124

I managed to shave another 20 min off this edit by checking out some other fanedits and Implementing some of their ideas. I also have updated the ani/obi confrontation on Mustafar and I think my current version has less of the dialogue intact than any other fanedit. Will upload a clip soon.

wut

Handman said:

Harmy said:

@michaeldc: I got a bit sidetracked with the BD release - I'm now thinking about waiting until all three v2.5s are done and then do the whole trilogy and make the intended bonus disc for the whole trilogy as well and release the whole thing as one awesome trilogy package.

 

 Sounds good to me :)

So appreciative of your work on this and Empire. By any chance, do you have an idea of when you'll get to creating a SL Blu-Ray with menus?

Hal 9000 said:

Octorox said:

OTification

 Looks pretty good! What settings did you use to achieve this look, other than grain?

 I've decided I'm going to redo all of the color correction from scratch so I don't have the original project file anymore but the gist of it was increasing/crushing the blacks, desaturating somewhat and shifting from yellow toward magenta in the midtones and highlights to give everything less of a golden sunlight look and more of whiteish look as seen in the OT. I think this shot turned out pretty well but a lot of other scenes I wasn't happy with so I'm going to try some other approach for the final color correction.

On another note, the workprint is now up on myspleen (no color correction or grain yet) For those who might want to check it out but don't have myspleen access, I'm going to upload it to a streaming/sharing site called streamnation, PM me for instructions if you're one of those people.

EDIT: Just realized the Palpatine transformation scene edit is screwed up. Sorry about that, it will be fixed for the final version.

Okay, so I'm going to be making a workprint available in the next day or so. I'll edit this post to let everyone know when it's up. It will probably be on myspleen and on my streamnation

I'd appreciate if anyone would give it a look. I'm basically looking for suggestions and feedback on specific cuts, general flow, audio editing, plot coherency and character motivation etc. Keep in mind, this version is a workprint, and is thus unfinished, as I've outlined below:

Unfinished Video:

• I have not applied any color correction to the Blu-Ray footage.
• I have not yet applied the grain plate.
• I am going to attempt to make the scene with Anakin and Padme on the balcony appear to be at sunset.
• The Palpatine transformation scene is lifted from Hal9000s edit but I want to redo it myself with the original Blu-Ray footage.
• There are a few shots that need rotoscoping, which I don't have the technical expertise to pull off:

1. a shot of Mace in the arena where I want to rotoscope out lightsabers in the background, this was previously done in SD for Attack of the Phantom.
2. In a few shots, I want to rotoscope on Jango's Helmet, so you never see him helmetless.
3. I want to have Dooku's lightsaber retract as he escapes onto his ship

Unfinished Audio:

• Zam and the analysis droids are currently subtitled with no audio. I want to dub over these characters and remove the subtitles.
• A lot of the audio transitions and music cuts are a bit rough. If people could point out where these can be improved, that would be great.
• The audio is currently downmixed to Stereo but the final version will be 5.1
• I want to remove Droid voices similar to what L8wrtr did in his edit
• I want to remove the Wookiee "Tarzan Yell", similar to L8wrtr
• I'd like to use L8wrtr's Boga voice clips
• I'd like to have a Qui-Gon voice clip when Yoda is meditating, similar to Hal9000's version.
• I'd like to redub Jango's one line "Don't move Jedi" with a voice more similar to Jason Wingreen's Boba.
• Stretch Goal: I'd like to completely redub General Grevious with a more menacing voice, reminiscent of his voice in the 2D hand-drawn Clone Wars series.

To those that have these, how do the V3 DVD versions upscaled by a good Blu-Ray player compare to the 720p Blu-Ray versions?

kane1138 said:

pittrek said:

The regraded prequels sound interesting. Would somebody upload it to a certain spleen ?

I'm seconding this request.

So far, only the 8gb version of ANH is on the 'spleen.  I would love to see the 16gb versions.

 thirded, specifically for the prequels, do they sync to the blu-rays?

Any updates on this project?

@lordsidi These are just 1080p HD versions of the 2004 DVDs of these films. They were preserved by combining elements from various HD broadcasts. The video should be clearer because it's in HD but afaik the audio should be identical to the DVDs.

EDIT: Is there any reason the alien subs are burned in on these? That's going to make it difficult to use for my edit.

I'm not really a fan of the rounded corners. I think the film should look as close as possible to a pristine scan of the o-neg, not a theatrical print. That said, it's Harmy's project and he can do what he wants and I'll still watch it regardless.

At the risk of becoming annoying, can anyone give me a myspleen invite for this, so I can use it for my edit? I've tried asking for one on the myspleen forums to no avail.

Hmm, would have to think about that. Would probably go through it shot by shot and bundle anything that would create continuity errors with one another.

Hal 9000 said:

Sounds like fun, though polling in this way could introduce incongruities unless some changes are clustered into packages.

 Yeah, I would probably bundle some changes where it makes sense, I cant think of a good ANH example right but for example the Sarlaac beak in ROTJ, it would just be a yes or no to the beak, not to each individual shot featuring the beak.

This is an idea I’m throwing around, and I may undertake it after I’m finished with my current 3 in 1 prequel edit. The idea is to poll OT members on every single change to Star Wars, from the LDs to the Blu-Rays, and then compile an edit which includes every change that the majority of people are for and omits every change the majority of people are against. Basically a “democratically” semi-specialized edition. I’m not announcing this edit right now, there are still a lot of things to be worked out logistically, but what do people think of the idea? The sources would be:

2011 edition: Blu-Ray

2004 edition: Schorman’s HDTV preservation

1997 edition: Harmy’s Respecialized Edition (upscaled to 1080p)

1977 edition: Harmy’s Despecialized 2.5 (upscaled to 1080p)

As well as a variety of audio mixes

Obviously I would seek out permission from Harmy before undertaking this.

Thoughts?

Harmy said:

I just noticed something interesting when comparing the two - the scene, which was shot on digital (the one where Qui-Gon takes Anankin's blood sample) actually looks better in the HDTV version.

 Interesting. It's a sad day when we have to do fan preservations in order to get high quality versions of the prequels :P

Are there any comparison pics of ROTS? The colors on the blu look good to me so I'm surprised to hear that there's apparently a green tint.