Moth3r

Well, it wouldn't be 576 after you've removed the black bars, more like 720x436. And I would run a test first, as non-square pixels in AVI, MKV and MP4 files can be problematic (display in wrong AR) in some media players. It might be better stretching to 1024x436 or squashing to 720 x 306.  

It's normally abbreviated BD, as in Blu-ray Disc, hence my confusion.

What's a BR?

Edit: you probably meant BD.

So let me get this right: the NTSC DVD5 has the corrected subtitle spelling, but the 6.4GB PAL MPEG-2 video file doesn't?

I agree with the basic premise of increasing the saturation and rotating the hue slightly from red to yellow. However I think you've gone way over the top.

Have you calibrated your monitor at all? Even if you don't have a colorimeter (most people don't) needed to achieve an accurate greyscale, you can still use a colour bar pattern with a blue filter to calibrate your monitor's hue and saturation settings.

The GOUT SW is also overly bright, and needs adjustment to either the gamma (g-force) or level curve (pwnage and ed sw '77) to bring it closer to the theatrical experience. 

zombie84 said:

I posted this in my saveSW thread, but I wrote to Congress to clarify if it was the original, and if it was a new or existing print. Good news. 1) It's the original. 2) It will be a newly struck print.

[...]

After the recent selection, we will in the near future request that Fox/Lucasfilm strike and send us a new 35mm print of the original 1980 release version.  We do that for all the studio titles, and the studios do cooperate.

Indeed good news, assuming:

1) Fox/Lucasfilm do indeed cooperate

2) Someone at the Registry actually checks to ensure they haven't tried to sneak in an SE print...

Pleased to hear this hasn't been lost and is to be made available again.

Was there an original NFO from Ady, and do you still have it?

TheBoost said:

TV's Frink said:

Reason #6 seems to have been mod-deleted, which is a shame considering it contained pages of classic hal posts.  Seems like it could have just been moved to off-topic...too bad.

While the whole topic was (IMHO) a bit silly, I think it contained some valid discussion of swordfighting sword play techniques.

I agree. However, by the time I noticed the state of the thread it was unfortunately full of personal attacks and Frink nonsense. If I'd seen it earlier I could have deleted posts and handed out warnings and/or bans, but it had deteriorated too far to be saved.

Oh, and this thread is off-topic for the Star Wars discussion forum.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Return-of-the-Jedi-cut-scene/topic/11816/

It was posted to alt.binaries.dvdr in August last year. Try searching for "Rad CMG" on binsearch.info.

R26 is incomplete so you will have to use the PAR2 files to fix.

TheBoost said:

Warbler said:

I the preschoolers who saw it the original way, without seat belts, would disagree with you once they grow and want their childhood show preserved exactly as they originally aired.

lets put it this way: what about the shows were aimed for you when you were a preschooler,  would you want them altered to please the parents of today's preschoolers?  

Are you aware that "Peppa Pig" is only a 4 year old show?

It's been around since 2004. My eldest son, who's now 9, watched it when he was a pre-schooler. Would he be bothered if he realised that the original shows had been altered on the Blu-ray? I doubt it.

Yes, I admit the purist in me doesn't agree with these alterations to appease parents (some reports say there were several complaints, the article I linked to suggests it was a single complaint from one mother). Mostly through it's the complaints I find ridiculous. We see a family of anthropomorphic pigs supposedly reflecting the real world - why aren't parents complaining about the safety implications of Rebecca Rabbit playing with Freddy Fox? What about the geographical inaccuracies of elephants and zebras, natives of the African savannah, going to school with British farm animals like pigs and sheep? 

Leguman said:

I'm not surprised. They have rules and guidelines in animated cartoons as well, that come from commitees made up from parents who want to insure the sanity of what children will see.

Do they show Peppa Pig in France? Every one of these rules has been broken:

For exemple:

- No skull heads (like on a poison bottle for instance)

George's pirate hat has a skull and crossbones on it.

- No objects with sharp edges

Daddy pig uses a knife to cut vegetables.

- no navels on the characters

When Peppa takes her red dress off (to put in the washing machine with Daddy Pig's white shirt) she has a navel.

- Fire must be blue instead of yellow or red

When Daddy Pig sets fire to his barbecue, the fire is red.

- All characters in a vehicle must wear a seat belt !

Has now been corrected...

And yes, I watch a lot of children's DVDs.

doubleofive said:

I knew about the Aliens change, what did they fix in TED? And wow, that's Spielberg-level revisionism there (which isn't as bad as Lucas-level). ;-)

Courtesy of See No Evil:

00:03:05:10 to 00:03:08:18 - Rob Tapert standing in the background has been digitally painted out
00:06:07:20 to 00:06:25:12 - Cameraman's reflection in window has been digitally painted out
00:16:19:04 to 00:16:21:08 - Cabin/moon matte shot tweaked; blending, levels, and movement steadied
00:19:21:00 to 00:19:26:00 - Cabin/moon matte shot tweaked; blending, levels, and movement steadied
00:23:38:00 to 00:24:00:11 - Shelly/moon matte shot tweaked; blending, levels, and movement steadied
00:34:13:11 to 00:34:25.17 - Background lights have been digitally painted out
00:36:47:10 to 00:36:49:09 - Linda screaming has been horizontally flipped to correct screen direction
00:36:51:22 to 00:36:54:02 - Linda screaming has been horizontally flipped to correct screen direction
00:38:21:14 to 00:38:25:21 - Cabin/moon matte shot tweaked; blending, levels, and movement steadied
00:52:19:09 to 00:52:24:22 - Hair in camera gate painted out
01:05:05:09 to 01:05:06:18 - Two lens flares painted out
01:05:09:22 to 01:05:10:14 - Two lens flares painted out
01:05:15:07 to 01:05:16:07 - Two lens flares painted out
01:05:18:04 to 01:05:19:06 - Two lens flares & dirt painted out
01:16:12:09 to 01:16:21:15 - Jump cut while Ash is moving the dresser has been smoothed with a fade
01:21:16:17 to 01:21:26:06 - Camera movement during animation digitally steadied
01:22:47:22 to 01:22:51:02 - Hand-held shot digitally steadied

So, the Blu-ray releases of The Evil Dead and Aliens had digital alterations to fix minor goofs.

And now this. :-)

SW fonts?

The 1.3GB 720p MKV available on the mf.com forums was also posted to a.b.hdtv.x264, approx 11 days ago.

Out of interest, why are you deinterlacing? What is your final release format to be?

I'm locking this thread now while Jay and Davy sort out the issue privately.

Video Collector said:

The jaggies were fortunately not part of the capture.

That's good news.

To echo what others have said, this is surprisingly good quality considering its age and source.

Also, as someone from the UK, I'm loving the old BBFC certificates.

Sure Fritz. :)

Could you perhaps trim and upload a conveniently small MPEG2 sample from the raw capture? I'm curious as to whether the aliasing really is introduced by your recorder. 

Welcome to the forum Video Collector.

How did you make those screen grabs out of interest? The reason I ask is that they appear to be half-height grabs scaled up using a simple point resize (which is why there is heavy aliasing on diagonal lines). I suspect that one of the fields - half the resolution - got discarded somehow when you made your screen grabs. This would mean that the actual tapes contain twice the vertical resolution of your screenshots!

Very much looking forward to seeing these.

In response to the last few posts, there are/were several ways to obtain a copy of this disc:

Usenet - it was originally posted to alt.binaries.starwars, but over 200 days ago so you will need to have a provider with good retention. Try searching for ESB THEATRICAL on binsearch. There was also an optional audio fix & instructions posted.

Rapidshare - links were available on tehparadox, which was unavailable for a time but I think is now back up. Most recommend you use a piece of software called jdownloader in conjunction with the links. I think the audio fix was already applied to the one uploaded here.

Torrent - there was a torrent at demonoid, but, a) some files had been altered and did not exactly match what Ady posted, and b) it's probably no longer seeded. Not recommended.

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I finally managed to check this out a few weeks ago. It really is excellent work. Bearing in mind I have never seen the SE, I didn't notice any distracting changes and it felt like I was finally watching a good quality transfer of the 1980 film.

Almost perfect, but if anyone wanted to take a shot at their own theatrical reconstruction there are some improvements that could be made. There were occasional choices in colouring that made faces and skin look waxy and artifical, and some crushed black levels look photographically anomalous. I suppose this was a limitation in the source.

The Hoth scenes were originally very grainy, so I'm not used to seeing them so clean. And some of the cloud city backgrounds had very slight aliasing.

And if I wanted to be really picky about 1980's authenticity, I could mention the URL for thx.com that appears at the end of the credits...