Monroville

Is there any way to make the AT-STs (if they're included) cockpit windows look like the AT-ATs, like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaAju7mO6rI

I always thought that the way they were designed in JEDI made them look like they had droopy eyes (and not threatening).  Even if you had a reflective/black window as opposed to the glowing red/blue ones would still look better.

You know Ady, maybe that is something you could do with the AT-ATs on Hoth.  I know you took out the red windows, but what about reflective windows, like how some windows are on more modern buildings?  They wouldn't have to be mirrored, but more like how tinted windows look when sunlight reflects on them.

EDIT - link now works.

Is there any way to make the AT-STs (if they're included) cockpit windows look like the AT-ATs, like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaAju7mO6rI

I always thought that the way they were designed in JEDI made them look like they had droopy eyes (and not threatening).  Even if you had a reflective/black window as opposed to the glowing red/blue ones would still look better.

You know Ady, maybe that is something you could do with the AT-ATs on Hoth.  I know you took out the red windows, but what about reflective windows, like how some windows are on more modern buildings?  They wouldn't have to be mirrored, but more like how tinted windows look when sunlight reflects on them.

EDIT - link now works

On your edit, try putting the "Luke dragging Vader to shuttle bay" scene after the Executor is destroyed.  The editing is still a little off in that the scene above feels plunked in - maybe if there was a more natural back-and-forth (regardless of whether we see Luke actually leave).

I still say have Luke take Vader onto the shuttle and whether we see him leave, have the final conversation between Luke and Anakin on the Endor surface AFTER everything has died down and they have the time to actually talk to each other (you know, without worrying about the Death Star blowing up in mid conversation?).

Davnes: I do really like seeing the rebel fleet zipping away.

Josh said:

Because the Shroud of the Dark Side clips I posted on youtube arn't the best quality, here's the original source..

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9UH1T97K The Speeder chase.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ONUGGX85 The worms.

Remember the Shroud of the Dark Side thread still exists. lol

Could you post the thread link?

in regards to how to do the planet in Endor's sky or other "atmospheric" effects:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfqDVP_0O0c&feature=related

You know, here's a depressing idea for an edit:
Lando blows up the reactor and everything happens as it does: Luke gets out and Lando gets out and yells YAHOO! and all that (though I would still thin the fleet outside).

But instead of showing the Death Star blow up as it does, do an ID4 showing the explosions from the weaker reactor underneath the skin of the DS, which remains intact.  The DS then does a STAR TREK 3 and enters Endor's atmosphere, where you then take shots from DEEP IMPACT and show the bulk of the DS hitting Endor and wiping out the Ewoks, Leia, Han, Chewie, R2, 3PO and everyone else -not destroying the planet, but just causing a lot of damage around the impact zone.

You would end the movie with Luke taking Vader to the area where his friends used to be to put his body on the pyre.  Since it is at night, you could alter the treescape and skyline to reflect a forest that has been pulverized with a shockwave (like after a forest fire). 

This way, Lando and Luke survive, but damn near the rest of the cast dies as a result of the rebel attack (talk about consequences!) due to unforeseen circumstances. This is not so much for JEDI:R as it is an idea for any editor to use.

trimboNZ said:

That's never really bothered me, though I've been concious of the discrepancy.  Remember the first Death Star was complete and most likely fully pressurised as a sealed unit.  My impression was that DS2 had very few habitable parts, and much of it was somewhat open to space.

The comparison I draw is igniting a small pile of gunpowder in a pill box, then igniting the same quantity packed into a bullet casing.

 

But reactors are completely different than gunpowder in a pill box.  Remember that the Emperor also said: "now witness the fire power of a fully operational battle station!"... as in, it was fully operational.  The reactor is online and pumping out planet-killer laser juice. 

So either the reactor blows up like it does initially and the body of the Death Star remains intact (because the reactor explosion is not powerful enough to instantly vaporize the DS and everything around/inside it) or it IS that strong and as soon as it tumbles and explodes behind the Falcon, BLAM!  Super large explosion!  It can't be both.

You know, here's a depressing idea for an edit:
Lando blows up the reactor and everything happens as it does: Luke gets out and Lando gets out and yells YAHOO! and all that (though I would still thin the fleet outside).

But instead of showing the Death Star blow up as it does, do an ID4 showing the eplosions from the weaker reactor underneath the skin of the DS, which remains intact (per the first accessment written above).  The DS then does a STAR TREK 3 and enters Endor's atmosphere, where you then take shots from DEEP IMPACT and show the bulk of the DS hitting Endor and wiping out the Ewoks, Leia, Han, Chewie, R2, 3PO and everyone else -not destroying the planet, but just causing a lot of damage around the impact zone.

You would end the movie with Luke taking Vader to the area where his friends used to be to put his body on the pyre.  Since it is at night, you could alter the treescape and skyline to reflect a forest that has been pulverized with a shockwave (like after a forest fire). 

This way, Lando and Luke survive, but damn near the rest of the cast dies as a result of the rebel attack (talk about consequences!) due to unforeseen circumstances.

This is not so much for JEDI:R as it is an idea for any editor to use.

To add an ion cannon in the front part is an excellent idea

 

-Angel

Maybe the lower "bulb" on the front arm could be used as the ion cannon.  It would definitely make these ships more formidable in battle, especially after we saw how vulnerable the SDs were to ion cannons.

Maybe that could be another idea as to how the Executor is destroyed: have it hit with multiple ion cannon blasts as rebel transports ram into it after the ion blasts take out sections of the shields (or the rebel ships with the ion cannons ram into the Executor, as they fire a continuous beam to allow themselves to get through the shields and hit the E).  You could still take that shot of it turning downwards, but you would have to add a LOT more damage (along the lines of STAR TREK 3, ST: NEMESIS or the blimp at the end of ROCKETEER) and show the ships ramming into it, either in that shot or a previous one.

Docta Nick said:

Great point, i did always like the scene, i just think maybe the falcon should be looking like it's going IN the galaxy thing or whatever it is instead of just ranomly going off in a direction. Basically just minor changes r needed for the scene, which is the way it should be.  

Docta Nick, I concur.

It's not a matter of replacing the galaxy so much as bring it closer (about double or triple the size - galaxies are pretty big and even with the galaxy that much bigger would still mean they are a few 1000 light years or more from the galaxy's edge.  And yes, it is a galaxy) and take the Falcon shot when it approaches Yavin IV to show it heading directly away and to the lower left - as in; towards the galaxy.

Regardless, here are some images you all might find interesting:


(for full size)



(for full size) it isn't mentioned, but I believe the dish in the upper right is the Death Star laser.

ben_danger said:

the only problem i have about all this boba fett surviving, or basically doing anything else except for dying or being completely absent is that it would just be really distracting to the plot, and wouldnt add anything to the film. if boba had a bigger role in ANH and ESB then it would be different, but in the context of the movies, he is just a cool looking plot item.

 

id just have him decapitated, or at the very most, replace the burping muppets frog from outside the palace with his ship taking off.

So how hard would it be just to show the Slave 1 taking off in the distance behind the Sail Barge when you first see it?  Granted, the HARD part would be getting Boba out of the rest of the action, but I think I would prefer that edit for JEDI.

Vaderios and BingoWings:
I love your images, though I'm not sure if we have to actually SEE any of that; one of the things I like in storytelling is discovering things while reading/watching a story.  One of the many problems with the Prequels was how they spoon fed everything.  I would show Jabba handing Boba a particular looking device, and then later when the female rebel general begins the meeting, she takes out said device and connects it with the holographic projector - that way we can put "2 and 2 together" and say "hey, that looks like the same thing Jabba gave Boba!" and thus something that fans can argue about and make backstories about - which is what made the original STAR WARS so damn cool.

All you would have to do is put Jabba's palace in the background of the first Sail Barge shot, so as they are approaching us you see the Slave 1 lifting off in the far back left area and jet away.  That way you could keep Boba in the Jabba scenes earlier (so he can get his screen time) yet takes off for another mission, whether its the Death Star plans or not

- in fact, what if Jabba had the plans [from the rebel spies he had killed] and gave it to Boba?  That Boba wasn't so much working for the Emperor as the rebels just offered a price too good to pass up?  Someone could edit a scene to either show Boba and Jabba a little out of focus in the background with Jabba handing Boba a box or disc (with the foreground characters talking) or right before the Sail Barge shot showing Boba come from behind Jabba and have Jabba hand him the data.

Another idea is when his rocket pack is hit by Han, rather than have him bounce off the side of the Sail Barge, just have him go inside on the side windows or crash through the side wall.  When Luke is on the main Sail Barge, take some shots of Boba so now he is on the top deck; when Luke and Leia start causing havoc and the destruction begins, take a line out of the Holiday special (right before he takes off and escapes) and have him shoot straight up into the sky and get away just like the Holiday special cartoon.  You could possibly modify some shots from THE ROCKETEER or something.

Bingowings said:

AuggieBenDoggie said:

Why the emperor didn't protect the main core from torpedos? He had the shield generator, and the imperial fleet was to keep the rebels trapped while the death star picked off the battle ships one by one. Something that wasn't done in ANH.  In the end, the emperor was over confident, just as Luke told him. He didn't expect/accept the strike team on Endor to be able to destroy the shield generator.

Having Lando commit suicide by chashing into the core screaming yeeehaa is pretty funny.  It would also create a few problems with Lukes escape, as he wouldn't be able to escape. He wouldn't be able to see his fathers face before he dies. He would also die almost as instantly as Lando would if the death star exploded as fast as the first one did. The rebel fleet might not get the chance to get far enough away either. I think the all ready established ending works best, and has worked for me ever since I first watched it.

The problem of Luke's escape would be solved by the two Death Star scenerio (see the ESB/ROTJ wishlist thread for details), in short Luke is on another Death Star which is destroyed by the Executor.

Without it the problem could be solved by altering the timing, the station could be shaken by bombardment from Rebel capital ships once the shield is down and he could be escape just as the station is about to explode (like Wedge).

Well,  for one thing it DOES kinda look like there is a shield on the reactor (not that it does much); my solution was just through editing:

(1) It is the Emperor himself that destroys the reactor shield ala Jeff Bridges jumping into the MCP shaft in TRON; you could have it take awhile to account for:
(2) Luke and Vader do their thing in the hanger BEFORE Lando gets to the reactor; that way they leave the shuttle bay and the explosions are erased.
(3) Lando does his thing (either blows up the reactor or rams it, which I don't care if it rips on ID4 it could still be cool) and the Death Star blows up when the reactor blows up, as it should.

Another way to edit it is:
(1) Lando fires at the reactor and the shots can't penetrate the shield around it.
(2) Vader throws the Emperor over the edge.  He plummets; add in an altered scene from TRON described above (to show the Emperor falling into the reactor and shorting out the reactor shield)
(3) Lando sees the shield go down and takes his shot.
(4) you would probably have to cut out the shot of the reactor falling over in the background, but you could show it damaged and in the process of overloading, thus
(5) Luke escapes with Vader, as Lando makes his way back out
(6) you could cut out the scenes with Vader in the hanger, but use some FX work so the conversation is done on the surface of Endor.  That may allow for a quicker pace for the simultaneous escapes where Luke makes it and Lando doesn't.  Luke does have the Force on his side, so I could see him using the Force to shield the shuttle.
(7) use some of the shuttle landing on the platform, but replace the platform with an open field.  Show Luke carrying Vader's body, where he rests him on the ground and begin the conversation that was in the hanger bay.  You would have to change the background behind Luke and put some dirt and grass behind Anakin, but it could be done.

I would stay away from the 2 Death Star thing; that would be a little too over the top.

Davnes007 said:

Monroville said:

Thanx Monroville :)

(A) I'm not sure about the 'clouds blowing away' is really nessesary, because it is in space after all (hearing the Deathstar blow-up is already enough science-fiction, lol).

However, the debris falling from the explosion is something I'll give a go, maybe using footage from the end of ID4 (although any other thoughts are wlecome), where the pieces of the alien ships fall from the heavens.

(B) That is a wild idea that I may tackle in the future, but I need to have a clear idea of how I wanted to happen first. The eclipse/worship thing would be cool, but making it fit in might be deficult. As for the 3P0 carves go, I'll look into it...but no promises.

Anyway, keeps those ideas coming :D

 

My angle is that something that BIG blowing up that close to Endor is going to cause a shockwave - the point being that there really isn't that big of an impact for something like the second Death Star getting blown up.  This should be dramatic as possible to show that this was a big deal.  To have it blow up in the sky like a giant firework is kinda.....underwelming.

I will work on some Photoshop images in the next few days to try to visualize what I'm talking about...

Just watch RETURNING TO JEDI; you actually have Harrison Ford doing a commentary during both the Sarlaac pit scene and the end battle at Endor saying that Lando was supposed to die at either location (no doubt the Sarlaac death was an earlier draft).

One thing that always bugged me even as a kid (after the 10th time watching JEDI naturally, when you get over the WOW! effect and start to really watch the movie) was: how is it that the reactor just exploded and it takes the Death Star like 10 minutes to actually explode?  As soon as that thing crashed and exploded behind the Falcon - BLAM!  WHITE LIGHT!  OUTSIDE SHOT OF DS EXPLODING!

You never had a 10 minute build-up (with the Death Star explosion) in ANH (remember the time factor was the torpedo travelling down the shaft to reach the reactor - once it hit, the whole thing blew up), so what they did in JEDI just seemed like these characters just CAN'T be killed no matter what happens - not even PHYSICS can kill them!  So on top of the teddy bears, the constant "FREEZE, Rebel scum!... Wait a minute, the rebels aren't telling US to freeze... they just SHOOT us!" moments and everything else, how can we possibly take this seriously, regardless of Lando dying or not?

Ady:
I think that has to be a factor when editing JEDI:R; when the reactor blows, the DS IMMEDIATELY explodes... no secondary explosions, no flame coming out the hangerbays (maybe alarms being that they are under attack) - thus regardless of HOW Lando blows up the reactor, he would know that to go inside and destroy it from the inside that he SHOULDN'T have had the time to escape.

This would be the tough part: maybe with some "cantina-izing" to help Lando express what he knows is a suicide mission, as well as change the music to a degree to reflect the desperate nature of the Rebel's battle it would help to sell the death of Lando.

Some other ideas as to improving the serious tone: yes, Leia is hit, but maybe Han needs to get wounded as well - not straight out KILLED, but show most if not all of the main characters in a weak or wounded situation to push the belief that maybe they could ALL die.

I like someone elses idea of Han saying "I love you" to Leia like he expected to die and Chewie in the AT-ST blows up the 2 troopers and saves them - maybe instead of having the 2 troopers run up and say "Freeze!", maybe you could edit it so more laser shots start hitting around them after Leia is hit; thus, when Leia pulls out her gun, it is not in reaction to the 2 troopers so much as Leia saying (without words) that she intends to make her last stand; Han says his line, the 2 troopers run up and as they are aiming BLAM!  they get destroyed; Han and Leia turn and look up to see the AT-ST hovering above them...

JasonN said:

I love how anytime an editor suggests an edit/cut in the attempt of make a SW film better or improving it, the purists automatically balk and say that the edit will be no good, even though the fanedit in question is years away from completion and they have no idea how it'll all turn out.

From a narrative standpoint, Return of the Jedi is terribly written with poorer characterization, editing, and direction than the two films that preceeded it. If an editor is to salvage the movie and improve its story, drastic changes and cuts may be necessary.
- For Adywan, that may mean killing off Lando or Leia or R2-D2 or whoever else (although where is his posts does he say that exactly? Seriously, I can't find it anywhere in his thread).
- For my planned RotJ edit, that means cutting the "Leia is Luke's twin" and "Han/Leia romance" subplots and trying to edit a new ending that reflects some of the more "bitter" aspects of the original drafts of Jedi (although I am still looking into how feasible a new ending would be, as it would require far more editing/compositing than I've done on the Prequels) 

 

AxiaEuxine, I believe I gave you this advice when you made your "list" on my Prequel thread, but if you don't like the changes that a faneditor makes, you're obviously NOT going to like the resulting fanedit. If you truly want to see a specific change or cut, there is nothing stopping you from making your own edit of the movie.

For one thing (in that Gary Kurtz interview on FILM THREAT with Chris Gore), he not only mentioned Vader continuing his plot to kill the Emperor and replace him with himself and Luke - but not to continue the Empire but to build a new Republic (to make ammends for the past), but that Leia was crowned queen.

Vader could possibly be redubbed (though that would be hard short of taking EMPIRE dialogue) but with some FX skills you could take the end of A NEW HOPE for Leia's coronation, maybe scenes from SOUND OF MUSIC (like Maria's wedding - recolor the dress and some other FX work)...

I say in regards to Lando or Han dying, it would help if maybe we started to plot it out - Ady may have already done this, but it could help him when he gets to JEDI:R all the same.

Bingowings said:

My initial idea was that the Gungans would not see them as Gods because they are too sophisticated, but perhaps they decline to help the Naboo because these aliens look so like their Gods but when they see what they are really like change sides.

Here's some mockups :

 

I think these are fantastic!  It has a WARRIORS OF THE WIND/ NAUSICCA vibe going on.

And can we just call them the Federation and get rid of the "Trade" moniker (regardless of whether they are a competing Republic or not)?  And the "taxes" and "boring stuff" in the scroll?  And the movies?  Hell, can we just make a completely new scroll and/or movie titles?

I also concur on giving the Nemoidians and Gungans an alien language and subtitles.  It would allow some "catina-izing" with the mouths without having to have them mouth perfect english words (especially the really bad mouth FX on the Nemoidians).

You know, considering the Nemoidians are essentially "fish people", is there any way to slip in some Calimari too (that maybe the Calimari were part of the "Federation" and have held a long resentment for the Empire since the Prequel days)?  You know, shrimp and fish go well together!

Davnes007 said:

Davnes007 said:

Here's a better version (?)

 

Now watch it in motion !!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWWK8N0W7rQ

 

That's kinda what I was talking about; I wanted to see more of an effect from the explosion so it's not just BLAM!  Hooray, it's over!  Let's party!

Granted, it shouldn't be all long-winded like the New York destruction in KNOWING (or any number of similar Earth-Buys-It movies), but a little more time to show the effect of the destruction on Endor itself, such as:

(1) when the DS blows up, incorporating the comet impact from DEEP IMPACT (removing the comet itself) to show the clouds blowing away from the shockwave.
(2) when we see Han and Leia, taking the background element behind Elijah Wood and show the fragments raining down behind them as the sky is filled with falling debris burning up in the atmosphere. It doesn't have to be a plot complication or a secondary danger, but something to marvel at and savor.

Regardless, don't get me wrong Davnes.  I really like what you've done so far to capture the concept.   I just want to see the DS explosion interact with Endor more to give the explosion some greater weight; it doesn't have to destroy Endor or anything like that, just something to show that the DS isn't a separate element from the planet it is orbiting.

You know, is there the possibility of maybe having a scene where the Death Star eclipses the star that shines on Endor (if not do a Tatooine and show the star every so often)?  Maybe that is how 3PO gets his godhood status; the Ewoks worship or fear the DS (ie like the eye of something watching down upon them), especially during eclipses, and 3PO sits up with a light (or the sun) behind him, giving him the same appearance.  When Luke does his thing, have 3PO go higher than he does and a light generates behind him to give him a sillouette.  Or just scrap that and have it that 3PO reflects the light and the Ewoks think he came FROM their sun. 

Hmm, maybe you could have it so the Ewoks worship the sun and hate the (Death Star) because occasionally it blocks the sun out; thus, a way for the rebels to talk the Ewoks into helping them defeat the Empire is for the Ewoks to help them destroy what blocks their sun.  And who doesn't want to destroy evil?

The 3PO thing may be too complicated to do (though the 3PO wood carving I think should DEFINITELY be done), and the inserted shot of the DS being eclipsed wouldn't necessarily be... well, necessary (unless that was the key to the Ewoks to start their attack; when the Great Eye is eclipsed and goes dark and can't see you anymore..).

Anyways, just some more thoughts to throw out there.

adywan said:

Savage said:

I'm still wondering if anyone has further thoughts on the amount of time that elapses between the Falcon's landing and eventual escape from Bespin.

I'd say that it was within the same day, 2 at the most. they land at sunrise and escape at sunset.

I always thought that Han and Co. spent the night, and the Leia scene was essentially the next morning.  Remember, this is also coinciding with Luke and his training, AND Luke has to pick them up, deal with Yoda and Dead Ben and then fly all the way over to Bespin... hell, I'm sure the walkthrough of Bespin from the top level to the lower carbonite levels took an hour or two alone; he wasn't exactly jumping down stairways to get to Vader...

Enigmas said:

(Who knows! Maybe we'll get lucky. Perhaps while Adywan is working on unbuttoning Lando's shirt he'll remember how sexy a character he is and decide to keep him alive!)

What have I done.... <:O
You know, I just didn't want Lando to look like Anthony Edwards from REVENGE OF THE NERDS.  Let's compare:

  

now, who looks like they're a bad ass and who doesn't?

adywan said:

I won't be changing the galaxy shot at the end. thats one thing i have always loved and i can't see why many want it changing. there are a couple of shots at the beginning of the scene where it needs its position changing  to fix continuity problems but thats about it.

that rebel transport that almost rams the frigate has always bugged me as has the static ships in the background. nothing looks right in that shot at all. I've tried a few things to eliminate the transport but because it covers the front end of the frigate i can't see  a way of eliminating it yet. this will probably be one of the last shots i do.

the neck on the frigate as well as the docking arm don't need changing to me. the thickness wouldn't matter in space due to having no gravity. just look on our space stations just how flimsy they are build yet the docking section of that is fine for the shuttle.

The medical droid issue has already been fixed.

and why open a button on Landos shirt? got to admit, that does sound gay. lol

 

Eh, it's not a matter of completely replacing the shot, but making it more akin to what Vaderios did (just make the galaxy look a little better). I still have an issue with the Falcon just flying off the screen, as opposed to heading towards the galaxy.

The neck thing is an issue for combat not gravity.  Yeah, gravity has no effect, but it makes the ship pretty flimsy in a fight with a Star Destroyer (you know, like in JEDI?)  In fact, that would be kinda cool to see an SD break one in half by blowing up the "neck" and showing the front and back half spinning off..

And as far as Lando's shirt: c'mon!  I'm talking about a button or two on his SHIRT, not his pants!  Sheesh!  >:)

And when you say 2010, do you mean something like Spring 2010 or Fall 2010?

doubleofive said:

Davenes, I'm loving your Endor Prime shots, especially the fleet arriving shot.  The DS explosion is a little large and looks like it should have cracked the moon in half, but I suppose that's the point! LOL

Would it be interesting to take some shots from either ARMAGEDDON or DEEP IMPACT and blue screen them in?  I'm thinking in regards to showing the characters on Endor looking up and the sky FX (with the fragments coming down) being placed behind them, to better show off the destruction of the DS2 and the debris raining down from the explosion.

I think the explosion itself (both the space shot and the view on Endor) needs to be completely redone, sans explosion ring regardless, with maybe a shot of Han holding onto Leia (to go overtop Elijah Wood on top of the hill in DEEP IMPACT at the end) as you see the DS fragments go through the sky over and behind them.

Here are some clips:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGWMs5cdQ2k
(0:44 - could the DS be shown blowing up in low orbit and - not so much destroy Endor- but push the clouds back from the shockwave?)

dark_jedi said:

MrBrown said:

I wonder to hear that the US PS3 does not playing PAL. The european PS3 plays NTSC fine, the only problems are the region coded DVDs, but for that I just do an 1:1 otr a downshrink to DVD5 for my private usage from my own DVDs without region coding...

Have you ever tried some Region codefree PAL disc, if its just the region coding prob?

 

I have not,but that is a good idea,I will have to try that.

I think I've tried that (and with THE ISLAND, being that it is region-0) and nope, no play due to PAL video.  I will have to look into the European and Asian PS3 thing though.  I have one of the earlier 60gb machines (and replaced the hard drive with a Seagate 250gb) and other than the PAL and region code issue it works fantastic.  I guess if I can find one cheap enough (@ $250) maybe it would be worth getting.

So Mr. Brown (just to confirm), you are saying that the European PS3s will play both NTSC and PAL dvds (provided of course that there is no region coding)?  DVD Decrypter will strip the region coding, so if what you are saying is true, then I can start watching my PAL dvds in 1080i via HDMI!

BTW, Mr. Brown, where would be the least expensive place to go on the internet to purchase a European (or Asian) PS3?  I can do a hunt on my own, but if you already have some good ideas as to where to start that would be great!

Here is a link over at amazon.com, and another at devoteddvd.com.au.  It essentially has the same cover art as the german Koch release, so many on the forums think that Umbrella just ported the German print for the Australian dvd release.

Speaking of which, other than making a true conversion from PAL to NTSC (Dark Jedi, I know you posted a link to a thread dealing with making bonafide conversions; if you still have that, you may want to post it here), is there any way to get a PS3 to play PAL movies and/or other region codes yet (ala cheat code or what-not)?  I can understand Sony not wanting region coding to be disabled, but it kinda pisses me off that they won't allow PAL playback - this IS the year 2009, and I would think compatibility with all sources of video would be a good point to sell on...

But hey!  What do I know about corporate mindsets... I'm poor!

dark_jedi said:

Well I just got in the mail today The Island,evidently it was ONLY released on DVD in Germany,so I have another PAL2NTSC Custom DVD to do,and it is uncut and in the correct aspect ratio of 2.35:1 anamorphic.

been a long time since I have watched this,and from what I remember it was a pretty damn good Michael Caine movie.

Just to let everyone know, THE ISLAND is also out in Australia too; you can find it on ebay.com for @ $15.00 usually.  It is R4, PAL and 2.35:1 anamorphically enhanced.  Looks fantastic (well, until the blu-ray comes out)!

I say either put the Rebel fleet in a nebula of some sort (Mutara or other), so then the Falcon can fly off to wherever it wants to, or keep the shot (plus maybe a spiced-up galaxy or have them closer to it, so the spiral arms show up in the other fleet shots) and take the clip of the Falcon heading towards Yavin IV ( located here at 4:58 to 5:03) and show the Falcon heading TOWARDS the galaxy and not into random space.

And could we open a button or two on Lando's shirt?  I'm not gay or anything but he looks like a dork with the shirt buttoned all the way up; no self-respecting playa would wear a shirt like that.

FINAL SCENE WITH REBEL FLEET:
clips seen here and here:

Whether the galaxy shots are changed to something else (to show the fleet hiding in a nebula or around a black hole, etc), the galaxy is modified with a better looking one or you bring the galaxy closer so we can see the spiral arms in the other fleet shots, is there any way to maybe make the fleet bigger as well as work on some of the ships?

If not add new designs or slightly mod the ones we currently see (like maybe make the "neck" on the frigate Luke and Co. are on a bit thicker, as it seems rather flimsy and an easy way to get the ship destroyed), I say the flight paths of the ships could definitely use some work.  Watch the second clip and look at how the frigate is moving in comparison with the other ships - is it just me or does that look a little awkward?

Maybe you could just change the transport on the lower left to point to the left from the get-go so it doesn't look like it's about to ram the frigate... and could we make the frigate engines orange or blue too?

Also, at 7:01, would it be conceivable to make the docking arm thicker or move it to where the portal Lando went out to get Luke on Bespin?

And could we open a button or two on Lando's shirt (at 7:04)?  I'm not gay or anything but he looks like a dork with the shirt buttoned all the way up; no self-respecting playa would wear a shirt like that.

Watching the end, I thought of a possible problem with this and JEDI: if Chewbacca is with Lando, how does he get captured by Boussch/Leia?  Wouldn't Lando have played the "captured Chewbacca as present" gag to get in himself, especially since Chewie was already with him?

And at 7:55, maybe the medical droid in the background could move a little bit?


BESPIN ESCAPE:
Also in the first clip, could we see the white dots of the previous escaping Bespin population ships in some of these Falcon shots (or maybe some late stragglers around the Falcon)?  Again, they could be far off in the distance, since they had a head start on escaping, but just to show how massive the evacuation is (and that a whole city just cleaned out) would be rather impressive.

This shot in particular (from 0:58 to 1:04): whether we see the line of ships off in the distance as they are escaping, or have one or two in the middle/foreground of the screen heading for the clouds, which would further justify the Falcon coming from below and making the vertical U-turn behind and above the cloud line to go around said escaping ship(s)...

Also also, at 1:17, shouldn't all the lights on Bespin be off, since the city has been evacuated?  Speaking of which, should there be any indication after Lando's warning of the city "shutting down" - whether we have tornado warning sirens, flashing lights, scenes of people rushing into an "airport" or "subway" (quick clips to indicate maybe a near panic of some sort - more than just people idly standing around), building lights turning off, etc.

And I guess 2:19 is where we could see the underside of the city moving by quickly right outside the portal?

And regarding the TIE laser fire: if the firing rate is different from A NEW HOPE to EMPIRE, is there any way to just make the TIES consistent in all the movies and have them fire with the same rate as in A NEW HOPE (and I still don't think 3 TIEs are enough to herd the Falcon anywhere...)?