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#314140
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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adywan said:

All extra features available on the DVD-5 plus.....

Isolated score track
StarBalls
Multi angle SP-FX breakdown featurette- Tie chases Biggs
Extended "Alderaan Destruction" scene.


What's StarBalls? Sounds either hilarious or frightening.

But what I'm looking forward to is the isolated score. Have been since you mentioned it!
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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ron2112 said:

[then a whole mess of blah blah blah, some polite, some nasty, almost all of it cautiously defanged by prefacing it with "I love everything you've done with this edit and I have the deepest respect for your work, but that being said..."]

Ron, that's hilarious. Thank you for such a delightful recap.

This July is my tenth wedding anniversary, and I vividly recall the marriage counselor years ago telling me that, whenever I say the word "but," whoever's listening automatically cancels whatever nice thing I just said. That's a nice dress, dear, BUT.... or This is a great salad, sweetheart, BUT.... And all beautifully captured in the quote above!
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#312348
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Adywan, I am likewise AMAZED.

After I'd watched and paused MANY times to marvel at your changes (most of which I wouldn't have noticed aside from the subtitle track --- thank you for its inclusion) I dug out my copy of "Shrek 3D" (actually its glasses) to watch the Jabba scene.

Overall stunning. Looking forward to the DVD9, of course, but delighted and awed by what you've accomplished.

My only question....the only disappointment....was that I'd hoped to see the cover on the disc. But, all things considered, I can be patient in waiting for it!

Thank you, sir. I'm grateful.
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#311657
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Originally posted by: MoveAlong
Eventually, discs being copied around are worthless and unable to be played on many devices or missing DVD_ROM and/or JACKET_P contents (EditDroid, anyone?).

If this were a less civil group, I'd grab my flame-retardant umbrella...

MoveAlong, I just learned what a JACKET_P folder is and does. I've noticed a few, and I've probably deleted them because they didn't seem functional. For that I apologize --- it's not my place to modify someone else's work, even for my own collection.

It wasn't until your remark that I bothered to Google "jacket_p" and learn that there's functionality I never dreamed of.

At the very least I've learned something important, and I'll be watching for its effect in different players.
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#311637
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Originally posted by: dark_jedi
GOUT DVD's are not DVD5,they are DVD9's as well.

Just for fun, I went home and took a look at my _other_ Star Wars DVDs. Didn't have a chance to check out the discs themselves, so I'm trusting their packaging, but...

The only one that claims to be DL is the second volume of "Clone Wars." That surprised me since I didn't remember much content on the disc.

The three dual-feature discs --- "Ewok Adventures," the "Ewoks" selections, and "Droids" selections --- are single-layer flip-discs. I can't imagine that it's cheaper to manufacture a single-layer flip than a dual-layer disc, and one thing I've toyed with is recreating each one as half of a dual-layer disc. (The main reasons I haven't are a) not particularly wanting to watch the live-action features again and b) the fact that the animated features are mulched from the original episodes, which I didn't have at the time I bought these discs.)

The first volume of "Clone Wars": single layer, which makes sense given only an hour-plus of content.

As for "R2-D2: Beneath the Dome," it didn't say. But with half an hour of content, I'd be shocked if it weren't single-layer.
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#311551
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Thanks, C3PX, for a great answer!

I interpreted the question differently, and I'm pretty sure that yours is the more useful answer.

BTW, I got a copy of --- I think --- "The Red Planet" from Netflix the other week, and I was shocked to see that it was a single-layer disc. On the other end of the spectrum, the Wookie Groomer DVD-9 of the TESB split-screen was so loaded with data that it kept causing my cheap Norcent player to glitch.
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#311545
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Originally posted by: gavin77
So what format are my store bought Star Wars DVD's in......DVD-5 or DVD-9?

Probably DVD-5.
If they say they're 4.7gb or 120min, then they're DVD-5.
If they say "DL" then they're dual-layer and DVD-9.
The five and the nine are approximations of the number of GB they hold.
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#311104
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Originally posted by: discostewart

I have just watched the perfect version of STAR WARS, well done, it really felt like being a kid again when i saw it the first time. I LOVED the dogfight and the overdub of "biggs biggs", and the duel was spectacular in the cargo bay.

I just had a terrific idea!

Don't get me wrong, here, Adywan, the XVID of your edit was, to quote a phrase, "most impressive" (but that's another film), and I was astonished by some of your ideas.

Most stunning of all, even better than the Death Star reveal, was the brilliant idea that Han shoot first instead of Greedo. It must've been a lot of work to remove Greedo's initial shot, but I couldn't detect anything off: well done!

Thanks to your change, Han now acts in self defense. That's a good start, because it allows his character to really GROW in the course of the trilogy. Instead of just drifting through situations, we can watch the films with new eyes and experience his metamorphosis into a relational human being.

It's still pretty subtle, though, and my first time through your edit I missed it.

You've already changed Lucas' intention for the character, and IMHO you've changed it much for the better, but consider the implications if Han fired AGAIN. And AGAIN. And AGAIN. And then stood to fire THREE shots rapidly into the smoking puddle that moments ago was Greedo's corpse.

NOW we have a character who truly gets to transform in the course of the trilogy, and it's also impossible to miss.

I know it's late, Adywan, but surely --- for the sake of character growth --- you can fit this tiny improvement in?
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#310916
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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Originally posted by: Molly
The source for the line about the script rewrite is The Annotated Screenplays, iirc. And certainly SOMEONE rewrote the dialogue (compare the prior scripts).

True enough. The editor credited the Huycks for their dialogue rewrites, and used an asterisk to indicate lines that they had enhanced. I didn't notice the asterisks until my last browse through the book, and it was eye-opening to see the huge effect they had on the film.

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#310633
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Requiem for a Clone War dream... (2003 series) (* unfinished project * - lots of info)
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Originally posted by: Johnny Ringo

First off I do love the series but I do feel they butchered it a bit for the DVD release - I'm not crazy about 'preservation' but I was a little annoyed to see some favourite scenes altered.

I feel like a noob in asking this question, but most of my Clone Wars exposure comes from the two DVD releases (my Internet access was feeble when they debuted, and our cable TV package remains similarly feeble).

I know that the individual episodes were concatenated, but I never dreamed that scenes were changed.

Is there a quick answer to the question of what was changed and why?
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#310616
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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My single objection to the ADM edition of Empire was his deletion of Luke & Leia's kiss. It was part of the story, it was part of the tension, and I can remember at that moment (I was almost twelve when it was in theatres) wanting to BE Luke for that moment in particular. I also remember shuddering three years later when I learned from a friend --- before I was able to see Jedi in the theatre --- that they were now apparently siblings. Now, of course, twenty-odd years later, I understand that there was the need to bring resolution to the story, and from "The Secret History of Star Wars" I've learned that there were contractual realities that for the story's closure. The entire Expanded Universe aside, though, it still doesn't feel right. It was too neat a wrap-up.

Which is to say, I plead for the keeping of the kiss.

And I'd also plead for the keeping of most of the SE material. It feels like Empire is the least-harmed of the trilogy by the special editions. ANH, for all the wonder of the final battle, also had the appearance of Jabba and Greedo's shooting first. Jedi, even for the beauty of the closing celebrations around the galaxy, gave us the chance to almost examine the tonsils of several singers in the new music video. Empire, though, demonstrated restraint: the wampa footage worked, and worked well (obviously IMHO), and the windows on Cloud City added to its sense of scale --- which before had only been notable from the approach, where the floating city was obviously enormous, but once inside it felt like a cramped and sterile labyrinth.

(Of course, don't get me started about the Emperor on the official DVD. All of Empire's emerging relatively unscathed came crashing down in that moment. Much as I like Ian McDiarmid in the role, and definitely hope that he's kept, the changes in dialogue felt like a slap in the face.)

These being my thoughts. Looking forward to the DVD editions of ANH, Adywan, and already starting to dream about seeing Empire....

As that 1997 trailer put it, you've given us the chance "to see them again...for the FIRST TIME." I'm grateful.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I forgot! Please _scrap_ the new scenes with Vader's shuttle and Jerjerrod!
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#309321
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Originally posted by: Jonno
MattMahdi, I'm intrigued - what kind of class do you teach where the subject matter is alternate versions of Star Wars?

I'm using the original trilogy, and parts of the prequels (especially "The Phantom Menace" (for its cultural significance) and "Revenge of the Sith") to explore ideas of philosophy, theology, and storytelling in this world that Lucas created. That I'm using alternate versions, where possible, is to maintain a sense of surprise and newness even in those students who can quote every line of the movies. Today we're using the second edition of Wookie Groomer's "The Empire Strikes Back" split-screen so we can see the the changes wrought in the special edition and the DVD.

Sadly it's just a limited E-Term class. After this week, it's back to teaching mathematics. Not that math is a bad thing at all, but I have to re-submerge my inner geek.
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#309119
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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I have an interesting group of students for the week. Most of them have seen "A New Hope," but are obviously not what one might call _devoted_ fans. The latter were obvious at the moment of the Death Star reveal when there were audible gasps. I was sitting back, curious about what people would notice.

One person noticed that Beru Lars' voice was different from what he was used to.

Several noticed the needle on the interrogation droid.

The same group that gasped when the DS was revealed also marveled at the fact that Greedo could blink and had other facial features. They also liked the music during the light saber fight, and were again stunned by the graphics in the battle briefing and on the hologram table in the situation room.

I'm interpreting here, but their message to Adywan seems to be a heartfelt "Well done!" When I told one guy that this was actually the next-to-final version, that it was still a work in progress, he was amazed.

More for myself, and speaking for those of us in this thread, we're all [except for the occasional unwashed heathen] excited by your work, Adywan, and eager to see the DVDs.
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#309108
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WOOKIE GROOMER PRESENTS: ADDICTED TO STAR WARS (Released)
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As someone who hasn't touched the newsgroups in a few years ... fifteen or so ... it's certainly interesting to see how things have changed. The very idea of a graphical interface to usenet just seems odd to someone who was once a code monkey.

I'm not sure what I think, but I've got four weeks left with Giganews to make up my mind. Overall the sense of transience of data doesn't seem any different. Usenet was and is a terrific resource --- but one on which one must stay nearly current.

That's probably why ThrowgnCpr and I are interested in seeing the DVDs on RapidShare: direct access, and a change in the status of the data from ephemeral to slightly more solid. As communities such as fanedit.org grow, that seems to be the direction they're heading.

Of course, that said, I've never seen a download go as smoothly as did the RotJ 10p splitscreen through NewsBin. Clean, smooth, and painless. Of course, once I had it, I discovered how pathetically underpowered I am to view it!

Which means, for right now, I'll stick with DVDs. If they are recirculated I'll be grateful. And, if not, I may keep a toe in the water occasionally to see what does come.
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#309074
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WOOKIE GROOMER PRESENTS: ADDICTED TO STAR WARS (Released)
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Well, I finally managed to get an account through GigaNews. I've downloaded all the headers. And, unfortunately, I'm just a little bit too late. The ~20gb version of "Addicted to Star Wars" is listed as incomplete, and no DVD version is listed at all (this being with a search on the word "addict").

And of the DVDs of the three split-screen second editions, only Empire remains and it's also incomplete.

Is there anyone on this thread who would be willing to re-release the DVD of "Addicted," and possibly also the split-screens 2.0, to alt.binaries.starwars?

I'd love to see them, and would immediately pass the discs on to ThrowgnCpr for RapidShare distribution.

Thanks very much,
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#308018
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Beautiful work, sir. Simply beautiful.

I created a quick DVD for convenience, and I'm experiencing the same sense of wonder and delight that I did as a child, on my tenth or twentieth theatre viewing. There's a sense of reality to the film, an emotional reaction that I didn't expect.

In a week and a half I get to teach a one-week class, three hours a day, on "God and a Galaxy Far, Far Away." We'll be exploring many aspects of the Trilogy, as you might imagine, and until last week I was going to use the Darth Editous version of "A New Hope." I'd even created a clumsy editing-in (all I have to work with at the moment is Nero) of the lost scenes from MoveAlong's disc. No longer, though.

I look forward to seeing my students' reactions to the film.

And, for those who worry, I'll be using "The Lost Scenes" as a supplement. I can't _imagine_ trying to edit Adywan's work.

Thank you, Adywan. I'm eager to see the final disc, but will wait with all patience. Well done.
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#303906
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Help Wanted: Holiday Special Resources and Dreams
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It’s fascinating to see so many people interested in the Star Wars Holiday Special.

I’m reminded of my drive home this evening, and seeing the flashing lights in the darkness ahead: I moved to the left lane of highway 167, trying to give space to the situation on the right, and was amazed to find that, even there, everyone was slowing down to see what sort of damage there might be.

Not that I’m all that different. I can tell you that there was no visible carnage, just a police car and an unladen tow truck, and I admit that I did spend the summer trying to create an SE disc of the SWHS. At some point I hope to be able to finish that disc.

In light of that hope, and also because of others’ interest (two fanedits of the Special are currently underway, and I think I read about a third), I decided to begin this thread on Holiday Special RESOURCES and DREAMS.

The SWHS web site that SKot runs has some good-quality video of the Fox News and TVLand mentions of the Special, and both play well when converted to DVD. However, is there better available?

Conan O’Brien surprised Harrison Ford when he was shilling for “Firewall”: I’ve only found a terrible copy of that, overcompressed and all but unwatchable, and would dearly love to find it in better condition.

It would be great to have an archival disc, a “final word” in special editions. My own dream would be to have a dual-layer disc with both the KCCI (great video quality) and WMAR (I think that’s the one with the commercials included) transfers playable, the commercials playable separately, the four “musical moments” bookmarked, and (as an Easter egg) the Bill Murray musical moment from Saturday Night Live. [The Bill Murray moment, BTW, was played as part of the AFI salute to George Lucas for Life Achievement.]

Of course, only the truly obsessed would take the script and subtitle the program. [Hands, those of us who’d do it in a heartbeat!]

And the frightfully manic could create a featurette on the evolution of Kashyyyk: initial concepts in the pre-ANH screenplays and treatments, the SWHS, The Wookiee Storybook, various comic strips and comic books, the Tyrant’s Test novels, and finally RotS.

While I’d love to create this disc, right now it’s not a possibility. Perhaps someone will, or perhaps it’ll be a team effort. Who’s interested?

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#302084
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Preserving the...<em>cringe</em>...Star Wars Holiday Special (Released)
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Originally posted by: LinkTGF
I downloaded the MMM commentary for this and am listening to it [without watching the video ;-) ] and I'm wondering if anyone has included this on any of their Holiday Special dvds?

On an in-process project, yes. That's qualified because it was a summer project: learn what's involved in building a DVD, and make a nifty SWHS disc as part of the bargain. The motivating factors were getting a copy of the KCCI broadcast (just shy of beautiful!) and finding that commentary. It ended up okay....but only a shadow of what I wanted it to be. I continue to dream of completing the project, but please don't tell my lovely wife.

Summer ended and teaching resumed, the trial license for DVD Lab Pro ran out, and funds to purchase a license for same just don't seem to be in the picture.

So, while I did wrap it up neatly, it's pretty much a rough draft or pre-visualization. It _can_ be released into the wild but hasn't been for, well, the fact that I want to be genuinely proud of what it could someday become.

Some outside constructive feedback wouldn't be a bad thing, now that I think about it.

PM me if interested.
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#300290
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WOOKIE GROOMER PRESENTS: ADDICTED TO STAR WARS (Released)
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Wookiee Groomer, I am impressed. I downloaded the three split screen films over the last week, and so for a few days my students have been coming in each morning and been utterly amazed at parallel ANH / TESB / RotJ. Fun to watch their reactions!

As I read about "Addicted to Star Wars," and my wife would certainly put me forward as qualified, I'm hoping that it gets some wider distribution. Everything I have so far is thanks to either email contacts or RapidShare --- aside from that poor copy of the Holiday Special, via eBay, with its neat tag line of "Every saga has a bastard son."

Since this discussion trailed off a few months ago, I'm hoping to hear a) if the project was distributed more widely and b) if there are worthwhile web-based newsgroup subscription services (_especially_ if this is still available on the newsgroups).

I'm starting to recognize many names after too much time browsing, and I'm impressed at the level of work I've seen. (And ThrowgnCpr --- I'm re-downloading your "A Flash of Spoofs" after foolishly lending my copy to a friend _before_ I made a copy of the disc image!)
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#300281
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Preserving the...<em>cringe</em>...Star Wars Holiday Special (Released)
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Maybe I'm just ignorant, but what is this commentary?

[snip]

I think I've seen some TV commercials for the SWHS on some disc I have, but I could be mistaken. If memory serves, they were included on the KCCI disc, but I could be wrong. I'll try to look around tonight.

MMM Commentaries does quite a few fan commentaries, and they did a marathon session of the Star Wars sextet a while ago. Their SWHS commentary is interesting, and entertaining, reminding me kind of a Kevin Smith commentary (but with language far, far cleaner). It makes the watching more fun, and many months ago I had the crazy idea of grafting it onto the special itself as an alternate optical track.

(Then, of course, I realized that Nero would require me to duplicate the entire program. Not impressive.)

The MMM site is here:

http://www.mmmcommentaries.com/

And they've apparently just started taking a look at Buffy. Not sure how I discovered their site....probably a Google search on the SWHS.

(If you do find the commercials, I'd love to see them. Haven't since .... well, not sure .... certainly have only the dimmest memories of the original broadcast itself!)