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#164797
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Indiana Jones 4
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Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
Young Indy had maybe 5 really good episodes in its run, but most were 'meh'.
I never got to see any of them, although they were shown here in germany as well. So Darabont wasn't the best choice in terms of script writing for Indy 4 (as far as I know he was one of the writers for the tv series)?

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#164793
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Star Wars Galaxies controversy...
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Well, he supervised the process of implementing said changes. Being the control freak that he is - he was in fact the person who actually wanted changes made to SWG in the first place (his argument was that SWG didn't match the quality of the other StarWars games).

I was actually looking forward to the changes, since I'd like to have a good StarWars Online-Rpg to play. Yet take a look at what they did: they just cut down the complexity and furthered a mistake that was made in the first place - attempting to cater to the "tourism spirit" instead of investing the work in a believable StarWars universe that takes the player beyond the terretorial borders of the movies.

I do also blame Jim Ward of course, for he seems to have the talent to encourage George Lucas the business man, but not George Lucas the artist.
I'll try to find the article with the Lucas statement again. I'm not sure, but I think it was on IGN.

Edit: Well, I'm too lazy to look for the article. Even that article could have been false or biased, so I'd say in the end it's all us and the media speculating. I never meant to say he fired up his C++ and made the changes himself. Alas, the article I had read clearly stated that the impulse for change came from George Lucas, as he (or perhaps one of his kids) was dissatisfied with the game's quality.
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#164760
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Star Wars Galaxies controversy...
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This game was a joke from the beginning (in my humble opinion). It was first conceived as a an epic historical story, starting before ANH, but intentionally having a timeline that would allow to witness or participate in events circling around the main plot of the classic starwars trilogy.

What it turned out to be at the end of a day, was a theme park for 13 year olds who want to be darth maul and want to visit Endor - the 'secret' location were the empire would build the second deathstar (or other rather unimportant places for the starwars universe itself, viewed from a larger view than 'just the movies').

All the additional content is mostly about pimping episode 3 instead of expanding the universe in a logical way that could stand on it's own without depending on people's knowledge of the movies and the weak attempt to cater to their desires to just visit every "tourist attraction" from the starwars universe - regardless wether it made sense story-wise or not.

Even with the early idea of allowing only few force using characters, the game had far too many of them - at least when you put it into context of the original game idea. Now force user classes are openly available from the beginning and basicly the "improvements" Lucas wanted to have, merely turned out as a weak attempt to copy the leader of the genre - Blizzard Entertainment and it's "World of Warcraft".
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#164535
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Indiana Jones 4
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There is an older thread on this topic that included an article from AICN which was written at a time when the script was finished and connery, ford and spielberg (being very happy with it) were "ready to go". Alas, Lucas had put in his lastminute veto and took over rewriting the script until HE is satisfied with it - needless to say the original author threw the towel at that point and the preparations for beginning the project came to a screeching halt.

Searching through the AICN article database to find the article (posting all indy4 related AICN links I'll find in the process):

INDIANA JONES and a total lack of Nazis will be coming to a theater someday!


Found another article on the same topic [source: spielbergfilms.com]. Here's an excerpt:
“By all accounts of those who have worked with [Lucas], he isn’t one to multitask when he’s making a film. That left Spielberg and Darabont to work out the script. Imagine Darabont’s joy when Spielberg pronounced that he liked Darabont’s draft, except for some quibbles with the third act. Darabont reworked the screenplay, and a few weeks later—last fall—Paramount was told that Spielberg would shoot the picture in July 2004.”

So according to the article, the script was Darabont and Spielberg’s baby, unlike the previous three Indiana Jones films (in which Lucas, Spielberg and the screenwriters all toiled together). It’s been reported numerous times that Lucas devised the story for the new film, yet the Esquire article wraps up by stating that “the official story is that the project is not dead and that Lucas will come up with a storyline himself.”

I’m not sure if this is stating that Lucas didn’t conceive the screen story for Darabont’s drafts at all and he will be crafting a new concept himself from the ground up or if this means Lucas will be drafting a brand new script himself (God help us). Lucas’ “storylines” for the Indy films (i.e.-stories for the films, but not the actual scripts) have been great, but his work as a screenwriter, as history has proven, is not even a shadow of Darabont’s talents.

Either way, Esquire’s article is unclear whether Lucas plans on crafting a new story or drafting a new script personally, but the article does end with a couple of notes of doom.

According to someone allegedly close to Spielberg within the DreamWorks fold, Spielberg won’t be too heartbroken if the film doesn’t ever come together (Spielberg has promised in the press that it will happen still), and as Esquire tells it (for what it's worth) “many in Hollywood are skeptical that it will ever happen.”

“[Spielberg] liked the idea of it, but I don’t think he was in love with doing it,” the fellow “DreamWorker” told Esquire.

If true, this is never a great way for Spielberg to head into a movie and his filmography, the Indiana Jones series and Indiana Jones fans deserve more than that. Spielberg has throughout his career been infatuated with many a concept. We’ve all seen how many scripts he courts but never commits to, wisely in the end. When Spielberg isn’t completely in love with working on a film, he stumbles with works like HOOK and THE LOST WORLD (which he “always, sort of wanted to do”—a very non-committal reason to shoot the film from Spielberg himself).
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#162562
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Best movies of 05
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Originally posted by: Darth ChaltabNolan didn't do that. He made it seem possible for Batman's story to actually happen in the real world, which is something no other Batman movie accomplished.

That's exactly why I love this film so much and why I'm looking forward to any possible follow-ups (the casting was excellent too, imho).
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#162547
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Paramount to buy DreamWorks for $1.6B
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Heya, just picked this up at USATODAY.com
Paramount to buy DreamWorks for $1.6B (By Alex Armitage, Bloomberg News)

LOS ANGELES — Viacom's Paramount Pictures agreed to buy DreamWorks for $1.6 billion in cash and debt, wresting the movie studio away from NBC Universal and securing the talents of Steven Spielberg.

DreamWorks will almost double Paramount's slate of films for 2006. Los Angeles-based Paramount is in talks to sell DreamWorks' library of 59 movies including Gladiator, according to a statement Sunday from both companies.

The purchase is a coup for Paramount chief Brad Grey, hired this year by Viacom Chairman Sumner Redstone to revive the studio. Paramount, ranked sixth at the box office this year, won DreamWorks with an 11th-hour bid that beat out General Electric's NBC. DreamWorks founders Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg and David Geffen are handing over a business formed 11 years ago with a vision to pool their talents in film, animation and music.

Paramount is "looking to shake things up and muscle things up," said Adi Kishore, director of entertainment and media research at Boston-based Yankee Group. "This is being driven by the new leadership."

The deal includes a worldwide distribution agreement with DreamWorks Animation, beginning in 2006. Paramount will get exclusive rights to future DreamWorks' Animation characters in television shows, the company said.

While Glendale, Calif.-based DreamWorks found success with Oscar winners including Saving Private Ryan and American Beauty, films this year such as The Island disappointed. The company began unraveling in 2000 with the sale of its video-game and music units, abandoning its ambition of forming a conglomerate to rival media companies such as Time Warner and Walt Disney. A sale also enables early investors such as Paul Allen to get some money back.

"The sale of DreamWorks' live-action unit suggests an end to the vision," said Laura Martin, an analyst at Soleil Securities Group in Pasadena, Calif.

Paramount wins distribution rights to films from DreamWorks Animation, a separate company that produced the Shrek franchise and Madagascar.

The sale also gives Paramount the skills of Spielberg, whose hits include Jaws and Schindler's List. The director has long had links to NBC, whose lots he has used to make movies including E.T. the Extraterrestrial. Spielberg is releasing his next film, Munich, through Universal on Dec. 23. Paramount is "getting a library and they're getting the Spielberg name," Soleil's Martin said.

DreamWorks will join Paramount as part of a new Viacom when Redstone splits his company in January. The film studios will be part of business run by Chief Executive Officer Tom Freston that holds New York-based Viacom's MTV cable-television unit.
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#160222
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RotS: Evolutionary design in the prequels and the "Vader Outfit"
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What's really irking me, is the fact that the clone troopers have sort of an evolutionary armor design; yet Darth Vader's outfit has been waiting for him in one of Palpatine's 'Fried Sith Apprentice outfit' depots?! I also think the contrast between the used-looking dull and unpolished version of Vader's armor in ANH and the car-commercial-polished one in RotS leave an odd feeling when watching RotS.

There were lots of unused conceptual artworks for Vader's look in ANH that would have looked great in RotS. The major flaw I now see in the prequels is, that it mainly should have been told within four movies - or three films of three hour length. What people wanted to see is not only the fall of Anakin - but also the "revenge of the sith", who returns reborn out of his own ashes to avenge his fate in blind anger (much like in the sand people slaying scene).

I would have liked to learn more about the heritage of Vader's armor. I remember that the armor had some sort of historical background within the starwars universe, that was more sophisticated than what was introduced in the prequel era. As far as I recall the "Sith" were supposed to be some kind of alien race or culture (much like the mandalorians) and that the title "Darth Vader, Dark Lord of the Sith (tm)" was unique to Vader - a title he gave himself - not Palpatine.

How do you guys feel about this?
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#133355
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Piracy not to blame in decline of moviegoers
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Heya, I've stumbled across an interesting NY-Times article linked to by Slashdot:
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Posted by Zonk on Thursday August 25, @11:27AM from the fear-itself dept.

lucyfersam writes "In a somewhat surprisingly earnest assessment, the NYTimes has an article about the massive decline in movie-going that does not once try to blame piracy and file-sharing programs. It sounds like studios are beginning to understand that they have only themselves to blame." From the article: "Multiples theories for the decline abound: a failure of studio marketing, the rising price of gas, the lure of alternate entertainment, even the prevalence of commercials and pesky cellphones inside once-sacrosanct theaters. But many movie executives and industry experts are beginning to conclude that something more fundamental is at work: Too many Hollywood movies these days, they say, just are not good enough."
What are your thoughts on this?
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#131860
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Lucas's filmmaking rut
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What really bothers me, is that Lucas had enough good ideas for the prequels he didn't stick to in the end. Take the design for example - the idea was to have many different designs in the beginning (that sometimes might even look alien compared to the original style) and then reduce that film by film to the amount and look and feel of designs from ANH. What we got instead was more vehicles and different designs stuffed into Ep3 than in any other SW movie. People who watched the film with me in theaters (and didn't now the vehicle designs from old rpg-books and the zahn novel trilogy) sometimes couldn't even tell apart which vehicle belonged to which fraction.

Just one example were he not only didn't stay true to the concept of the old movies, but also the concept he had originally in mind for the prequels.
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#130688
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Jedikev?
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I have no problem with Jedikev. After a while you know a person and know how to take any inflammatory remarks (it was the same with Jimbo, who's still abused as punching-ball for no apparent reason). What annoys me more are people who react to any flame from a person who is widely known for posting senseless flames from time to time. That makes it so incredibly easy to derail any topic into a mindless flamewar. Just ignore the crap and pick up the gold.

"Who's the more foolish - the fool or the fool that follows?" - Obi-Wan Kenobi
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#118778
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A revised opinion of George Lucas
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My point isn't about George Lucas making these changes and replacing the older versions of his films with the most current version of "his vision (tm)" - it's about his cultural responsibility in front of the fans who grew fond of his 'inferior' work. In my book I agree with his claim that an artist should always have the right to go back and do a director's cut and finish the film as to how it was originally intended, but I strongly disagree with him playing 'god of culture' and dictating what generations after us will be able to see.

You're not in a similar position - the only person who might effectively be bothered (or amused) about you replacing that guitar with a rocket launcher, is your friend who is on the drawing. Alas, the amount of responsibility that rests on your shoulders is not comparable to that of George Lucas.

I also want to point out that I still do respect George Lucas, I just can't respect some of his actions as an artist and multi-media empire owner. Thus, I don't feel that bad to openly voice my criticism about these actions and making a little bit of fun of him from time to time - he can't expect his actions to be entirely without consequences.