MalàStrana

I don’t get any “not a valid mkv file” message but the v9.3.1 doesn’t deliver anything when I launch the muxing. There might be a change to be done with the audio file prior to the muxing step.

edit: ok, to make it work you need to open the .mov file in audacity, then export it as “wav 16 bit” (it’s the same lossless quality as the original file). You end up with a .wav file that is easily read by mkvtoolnix.

Lord Haseo said:

Nah, the other you refer to did that ages ago though I’m surprised he hasn’t cleaned up yet. I guess when you act like a turd you won’t mind excrement clinging to your body.

I guess you’re the only piece of shit always clinging after every single post of mine. So little piece of shit it’s time to cut it off and flush it out.

The curious thing is that Lucas already started to make changes to the movies when ROTJ was in shooting session, so why didn’t he think about remaking the ESB Emperor scene with Ian in 1982 ? He could have made the change long before the 1997 SE in a perfectly convincing way and no one would complain about that.

I really hope this material is going to be in EpVIII. The lack of context of TFA was a real issue. You can add politics in a SW without making it PT boring. ANH has many politics scenes that make the context very clear.

Thanks Hal !
Has someone successfully tried to mux the PCM audio file ? I’m failing so far (don’t know why).

You’re making an AOTC edit with color corrected bluray ? What are you going to change compared to Hal’s version (I’m curious).

TV’s Frink said:

MalàStrana said:

TV’s Frink said:

MalàStrana said:

it’s because not everyone sees racism everywhere.

Whereas you don’t see racism anywhere, even in your own country. Ok.

Hum… Frink… little Frink…

Ah, your admiration of Trump now makes sense.

You implied that you don’t have race problems like we do, but if you’re just saying you have different race problems and not our specific ones, ok.

Your way to simplify complex matters with flawed ideology reminds me of this very admirable man as well… Anyway my little Frink, I love you no matter what. I don’t talk with such american experts on french racial issues every day ! That’s refreshing 😃

TV’s Frink said:

MalàStrana said:

it’s because not everyone sees racism everywhere.

Whereas you don’t see racism anywhere, even in your own country. Ok.

Hum… Frink… little Frink… did I say there was no racism in France or did I say this wasn’t a racial issue like the one you have in US ? People don’t get shot by cops here (they get shot by terrorists these past few months). Currently in France we have religious problems, it’s not the same as racial issues. Do we deal it efficiently ? Not sure, but we try to prevent religious extremism (people who usually are the ones attacking jewish people by the way…). Is there racism in the mixture ? I think so, since religion is linked with immigration. Is the main far-right party around 30% in ballots ? Definitely yes, but does it prove that France is getting more and more racist ? No. I happen to live there you know. People hate islamists, religious extremists and this rogue/terrorist country known as Daesh; but most of people don’t hate black or arabian people because of that. But, hey, if you want to stick to some bullshit reports do as you wish…

Since this is a sport thread (is it ?), here is french football squad: http://img.buzzarena.com/2016/06/equipe-de-france-foot.jpg

Football is the most popular collective game in France. So is this the team of a racist country ?

Nigeria won Bronze by the way. very excited by tonight’s game which is gonna be awesome.

Tyrphanax said:
On English speaking TV, I can guarantee you they would have transposed Germany and Nigera’s places in order to avoid this.

No… the game was Nigeria v Germany, they couldn’t transpose it as Germany v Nigeria because this is not the game it was (Germany was playing with non domestic jerseys). TV stations have to respect that. If no one thought “hum, Nig - Ger… nig…ger… Oh my God !” it’s because not everyone sees racism everywhere. No Nigerian player got shot on the field by white american cop, so it’s fine.

yhwx said:

Who knew that a thread about something that is supposed to be above politics turns into politics.

When 2 people (among them: you) start to do that, it… well, it happens. Thanks !

TV’s Frink said:

MalàStrana said:

TV’s Frink said:

MalàStrana said:

Don’t forget that everyone here does not live in the US/UK, hence we don’t necessarily want to be taken prisoners by your country’s race issues you obviously can’t solve.

https://news.vice.com/article/france-is-getting-more-intolerant-and-racist-according-to-human-rights-report

http://www.antisemitisme.fr/dl/2014-FR.pdf

Yeah here we have the same kind of lunatics you’ve got in the US/UK who are always trying to racialize everything and writing reports on racism/antisemitism…

[facepalm]

And I used to think you only made stupid posts related to Star Wars…

You’re too nice 😃 I never doubted you make stupid posts about everything though.

TV’s Frink said:

MalàStrana said:

Don’t forget that everyone here does not live in the US/UK, hence we don’t necessarily want to be taken prisoners by your country’s race issues you obviously can’t solve.

https://news.vice.com/article/france-is-getting-more-intolerant-and-racist-according-to-human-rights-report

http://www.antisemitisme.fr/dl/2014-FR.pdf

Yeah here we have the same kind of lunatics you’ve got in the US/UK who are always trying to racialize everything and writing reports on racism/antisemitism… (and you speak french ?)

And french handball squad is well known, check their honors it’s really impressive. They are going for a third gold medal in a row, if you don’t know that and pretend to follow olympics I really can’t do anything for you… for instance I don’t like or follow basket but I know Team USA kicks ass.

People who want to be victimized will always find ways to feel that way (“It’s offensive whether it’s intentional or not”, oh this is heavy…). So it’s time to end this pointless conversation yhwx, or open another thread. Don’t forget that everyone here does not live in the US/UK, hence we don’t necessarily want to be taken prisoners by your country’s race issues you obviously can’t solve.

You’re such naggers ! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaBNCBXwiN8)

Tyrphanax said:

Someone didn’t think that through.

It took me a few seconds to understand the joke. ZDF is a german tv channel, and “nigger” doesn’t mean anything in german.

Meanwhile, germany’s women football team won Gold last night ! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P9Bhak-hnc) First time in DFB history. If the men also get Gold tonight (against… Brazil !.. however I wouldn’t count on a 1-7 this time) it would be a first. French handball federation can also do the same (well, everybody knows that France has the best current handball squad, but the women section is usually not as good so here lies the little surprise).

I can see 2 options if no one knows how to help you:

• you keep the converted HDTV footage for this scene (on an editing board I think it’s possible to mix different video sources);
• or, you don’t add the day-for-night effet on this scene (we can assume it’s a twilight kiss).

She’s good looking and has a beautiful body, so even if she was wearing a burka people would still think she’s sexualized. I wouldn’t say the same about Ridley…

Lord Starfish said:

Lord Haseo said:

Good. Since 2/3 of the other main female characters were sexualized it would be refreshing to see one that doesn’t get the same treatment. She can still have a romance but keep her attire PG.

At least The Force Awakens clearly respected her enough to not use her for any blatant fanservice.

Are you serious ? Every piece of dialogue when she’s with Han and with the Falcon aren’t fanservice by your books ?

By the way: Padmé wasn’t sexualized either, although she was hot. It would be impossible to sexualize Rey.

TV’s Frink said:

MalàStrana said:

TV’s Frink said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Leave it to Mala to turn this thread from “which version is least bad” to “this is why I love the special editions!”

I assumed all are equally great because no Daisy Ridley squirrel face.

You assume well. But Daisy and 1997 Jabba share the same eyes, so 2004/2011 are better.

Is this the part where you claim the dudes inside Jabba are better actors?

The animators sure are for the 1997/2004/2011 versions. But I prefer a version of ANH without Jabba… as well as a version of the Postlogy (uhuh) without Daisy.

TV’s Frink said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Leave it to Mala to turn this thread from “which version is least bad” to “this is why I love the special editions!”

I assumed all are equally great because no Daisy Ridley squirrel face.

You assume well. But Daisy and 1997 Jabba share the same eyes, so 2004/2011 are better.

Indeed. Was I mistaken with ROTJ ? So this is a fair point for the 1997 version.

Leave it to Malà, with an accent on the second “a”.

It depends of the Episode:
ANH: colors of 1997 are better; Greedo’s death is better in the 2011 version; Jabba is slighty better in the 2004/2011 versions; no fucking cgi rocks in 1997/2004; better Ben’s dragon call in 1997; hum… hard call on this one !

TESB: 2011’s version any day. 2004 is almost identical but a few more things have been fixed (wampa’s arm, relfections in Bespin’s windows, sabers). 1997 has a best Emperor dialogue scene but 2004/2011 fixes continuity issue of how the Emperor looks; 1997 also has the terrible Luke’s scream; so yeah, 2011 is overall the best version. I don’t mind the colors of this one so I would even dare to say it’s my prefered version of them all, although I prefer Boba’s voice and a few dialogues of the original theatrical cut.

ROTJ: hard call again. I like the complete celebration scene of 2004/2011; don’t like Vader’s “No” of 2011; don’t like the sabers of 2004; don’t mind the colors of 2004/2011; like the “Emperor’s slug” thing fixed in 2011; I don’t mind (and I’m even used now) Sebulba passing by and the blinking ewoks; Shaw’s old Anakin beats Hayden’s young version (if George had tried to make a old Hayden’s Anakin make-up I would probably prefered that, be he didn’t); so it’s really close between 1997 and 2011.

Ok Hal, thanks for the update. I was just wondering if I had missed something !

ziggyonice said:

DigMod said:

Kexikus said:

ziggyonice said:

The complete landing scene (including Leia hugging unknown Rey while Chewie is in the background walking…) should have been removed; following shot to be “sad Chewie and the others mourning”

I wonder if it would be possible to have Chewie hug Leia in the end by using their earlier hug at Maz’s place and moving it to the end of the film after SKB has been destroyed.

I wondered about that myself and I think it should be possible. IIRC Leia is wearing the same outfit, so “all” that needs to be done is to rotoscope the hug and add the base as a background.

I attempted this, but it is a bit difficult due to the amount of smoke in that scene. I’m sure there are some master rotoscopers here that could pull it off though.

Regarding the insertion of having Chewie hug Leia at the end of the film… I don’t think the smoke from the Maz Temple scene would be a problem. When Rey and Co. return to the Resistance base, there is smoke in that scene much as there is in the Maz scene. So I think it would be doable.

The easiest way really is to simply cut the aftermath scene and to directly go to the “being sad in Resistance HQ” scene. Rotoscoping such a long shot might be quite a long process for a not very convincing result… Plus, not being cruel, the less we see Leia in plain light the better it is…

edit: by the way Hal is the audio file somewhere to be found now ?

http://www.slashfilm.com/j-w-rinzler-the-making-of-star-wars-the-force-awakens/

I would love to read Lucas material for the sequels (postlogy ? Anyone ?). Rinzler’s making of books of the OT are great (still need to finish ESB and to begin ROTJ, but I assume it’s roughly the same quality as SW); I hope he will someday do the same for the PT (and both Clone Wars tv series ?).