Lord Peeler

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Join date: 21-Mar-2004
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Post: #39328
Topic: Movies that have never been released in original form on DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/39328/action/topic#39328
Time: 22-Mar-2004 7:39 PM

My point is the fanboys here who are talking "boycott" are just punishing themselves because Greedo shots first. It would be nice to have both versions available, but given the fact that Lucas said nine years ago that he would never release the originals again on video, I fail to see how people bitching about it now will change anything.

Sifo, you come across as reasonable and rational. So my question is, what the Hell are you doing here among this pack of rabid fanboys out for the blood of George Lucas for daring to change "their" movies?

They do say he owes them, that the changes in the SEs make the movies "unwatchable". Heck, warbler condemed me for my choice of icon!

You really need to re-evaluate your stance here, when you consider exactly who you are standig with....

Post: #39326
Topic: Movies that have never been released in original form on DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/39326/action/topic#39326
Time: 22-Mar-2004 7:15 PM

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Originally posted by: Master Sifo-Dyas
lol, Lord Peeler are you for real? You really got an attitude problem coming here just for trollsport. Like any of your brainless constructions of twisted logic would convince anyone. If I'm desperate to get the original theatrical cuts on DVD, you're double desperate in your attempts to make me not to want them.

I don't care what you want.

Would it be nice to have the original cuts and the SEs both available? Eh, why not?

But is George Lucas Satan himself for not giving you exactly what you want because you've spent your entire live's fortune on 4 1/2/ inch plastic figures, VHS tapes & wall-sized posters? Hardly. Lucas didn't force any of you to be a fanboy. You chose to be a fanboy.

So he owes you nothing. What, I'm a "troll" for pointing out to you he owes you nothing? How does that work?

I'm just happy to be getting the movies on DVD in less than six months. I fail to see the logic in punishing myself because with all the vast improvments in the SEs he had Greedo shoot first. It's the same story, with better effects.

What's not to like?

Post: #39322
Topic: Movies that have never been released in original form on DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/39322/action/topic#39322
Time: 22-Mar-2004 6:59 PM

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Originally posted by: Warbler
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Originally posted by: Lord Peeler
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Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
I asked my parents, and they want BOTH.

And if they don't get both are they going to join your pathetic boycott?

BTW, quite frankly, I don't beleive anyone who says they won't buy the DVDs. I say you are full of shit. Anyone who says they aren't going to buy the DVDs is full of it. You guys will all buy it and you'll all bitch about how Lucas ripped you off by "forcing" you to buy it.

Don't tell me what I'm going to do and what I'm not going to do. Only I know that. And I'm telling you I'm not going to buy any ruined editon of the OT on any format. If you don't want to believe me, F*** OFF!!! you jerk!

Maybe my parents did buy the tickets, but they did it for me! They bought the toys for me! And I I'm the one that bought the vhs copies of the originals,the books and other merchandise. So if it weren't for me Lucas would not have my or my parent's money. And how do you know that some on the 50,000 weren't old enough to buy their tickets?

As for my parents peference, they are not Star Wars fans so either way they will not get a Star Wars DVD for themselves. However I know they

Statistically speaking, most first generation Star Wars fans were kids when the movies came out the first time, so it's a good bet that most of the 56,000 people who signed your petition didn't make George Lucas rich, their parents did.

Besides, you ignor the fact that the vast majority of fans will buy the DVDs no matter what. They are the ones that will make Lucas richer, so he doesn't owe you anything.

Furthermore, by bashing the PT you just prove you are a jealous, petty little fanboy who hates everything Lucas has done since he "ruined" Star Wars for you by *gasp* putting in new scenes and better effects then that of the original release. So why the Hell should he value your opinion in the first place, when you prove that anything new he does you are going to hate? If I were Lucas I'd tell you to fuck off and go complain to all the other creators that have dared put out extended edition DVDs out without offering you the original versions.

Like the list at the head of this topic.

You've had nine years to be prepared for this. It's been seven years since the SEs and you still aren't over it. It's a bit silly, don't you think?

It Lucas' movies, not yours. If he wants to release an all Jar Jar all the time version of the OT with a pictograph of himself flipping you the bird it's his decision.

Don't like it, don't buy it. If enough fanboys would actually stick to their guns and not buy the SEs....it still wouldn't make a damn bit of difference because the fanboys out outnumbered by the fans.

And thank God for that, I say.

Post: #39307
Topic: Movies that have never been released in original form on DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/39307/action/topic#39307
Time: 22-Mar-2004 4:31 PM

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Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
I asked my parents, and they want BOTH.

And if they don't get both are they going to join your pathetic boycott?

BTW, quite frankly, I don't beleive anyone who says they won't buy the DVDs. I say you are full of shit. Anyone who says they aren't going to buy the DVDs is full of it. You guys will all buy it and you'll all bitch about how Lucas ripped you off by "forcing" you to buy it.

Post: #39273
Topic: Movies that have never been released in original form on DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/39273/action/topic#39273
Time: 22-Mar-2004 3:08 PM

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If it wasn't for us, he would never have the money to do to these films what he is doing. So YES! He does owe us!

No he doesn't, because you aren't the the one person in the world that made him rich. The 56,000 people who signed the petition aren't the ones who made him rich. You guys are not the majority of Star Wars fandom, or the DVD buying public.

As a matter of fact, most of you didn't even buy tickets to Star Wars back when it was called Star Wars. Your parents did. Your parents made George Lucas rich, so why don't you ask them which version they want on DVD.

Post: #39100
Topic: Movies that have never been released in original form on DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/39100/action/topic#39100
Time: 21-Mar-2004 11:07 PM

Let me ask you guys thus. Do you watch the regular, theatrical cuts of LOTR, or the extended editions? Hell, I don't even own the theatrical cuts of LOTR because why would I ever watch them?

If you guys are so obsessed over rejecting everything new Lucas is doing, why even bother with DVD? You can own laserdisc. They don't degrade and I'm sure you can find them on EBay.

What this comes down to is you feel that Lucas owes you and think that since you are Star Wars fans you get to dicate what he does. Sorry, the world doesn't work that way.

Post: #39090
Topic: Movies that have never been released in original form on DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/39090/action/topic#39090
Time: 21-Mar-2004 5:48 PM

Me? I'm just sick of fanboy whinning.

Would it be nice to have both editions on video? Not really. It would be nice to have an edition where all the SFX cliches have been fixed and the bad changes have been exercized. In short, I want to see Han shoot first and I want all the violence restored. But why on Earth would anyone want to see bad SFX in any movie?

Sure, it was great when I was 6, but I'm not 6 anymore, and if I can see good SFX vs. bad SFX, I'll take good anyday.

You guys want the "force field" under the landspeeder, transparent snowspeeders, blocking looking effects shots during the Death Star battle? Why? I don't get it. I simply don't understand why anyone would want to see crappy SFX in Star Wars when you can see better SFX.

Because that is what it comes down to. The story hasn't been changed at all, so other than Han shooting first what is your bitch specifically?

Post: #39080
Topic: Movies that have never been released in original form on DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/39080/action/topic#39080
Time: 21-Mar-2004 3:56 PM

Do you even concieve how lame it is to compare a DVD release to being in physical pain?

Do you realize that the story wasn't changed, just the effects? Luke is still from tatooine, he's still a whiny little bitch, he still meets up with Obi Wan, he still save the girl, blows up the Death Star, fights in the Battle of Hoth, get's trained by Yoda, learns that Vader is his pop, and redeems him in the end.

The movie is 98% the same. You are going to refuse to watch it because it has better special effects? Because Greedon shots first?

Do you conceive how lame that is? You are really just punishing yourself.

Post: #39069
Topic: Movies that have never been released in original form on DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/39069/action/topic#39069
Time: 21-Mar-2004 2:12 PM

I dunno how....

Oh well, you got the point, and that's all that matters. It's an MB, not a dissertation.

Post: #39066
Topic: Movies that have never been released in original form on DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/39066/action/topic#39066
Time: 21-Mar-2004 1:51 PM

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Originally posted by: Master Sifo-Dyas
@Lord Peeler: If you expect to be taken serious by me, stop praying down the 'George is always right' mantra. The original theatrical cuts are not rough cuts. Your feeble attempts to extend Lucas' fictional reality into these message boards are bound to fail. Take off that brainslug and start thinking for yourself.

Btw, welcome to these boards. Welcome - to the real world.

If you threatened me nine years ago, I wouldn't be surprised at all when you tried to do it. And I would be prepared for it.

I wouldn't bitch about it.

Post: #39065
Topic: Movies that have never been released in original form on DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/39065/action/topic#39065
Time: 21-Mar-2004 1:50 PM

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Originally posted by: Warbler
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Originally posted by: Lord Peeler
I'll use whatever icon I like, thank you very much.

"I'll never buy the Ses on VHS, DVD, etc". Whatever. You already own them on VHS, because you bought them back in '97 when they came out.

But the point I need to make is, how the hell can anyone act surpised that Lucas isn't going to put the rough-cut out on DVD? He said nine years ago, NINE YEARS AGO thar the "95 release was the LAST TIME the original versions would ever be released on video. So if you where actually paying any attention you'd known that he wans't going to release the rough-cut of the movies on DVD, or VHS, or lazer disc for the last NINE FREAKIN' YEARS.

How the hell is it Lucas' fault you guys didn't pay attention when he said NINE YEARS ago that he would never release the movies in their original version ever again? I bet you giys yell at the teacher when he gives you an "F" for not paying attention in class.

This wasn't a surprise to anyone who actually looked at the back of the box of the 1995 "One Last Time" edition of the trilogy. So other than SEs haters, the very fanboys that are a pox on all Star Wars fans, the very idiots that make the rest of us look like anal-retentive losers, why would any sane, rational, observant person be surprised?

Or did I just answere my own question?

Who said I was surprised? I'm Just upset about it thats all. I hoped that after Lucas saw so many people wanted the original OT (don't call it the rough cut, I was not watching a rough cut for 20 years, I was watching a classic) that he would change his mind.

Also I never bought the VHS ruined edition of the OT (since you want to call the classic the "rough cut" I'll call the "special edition" the ruined edition. )

I've said in the past Lucas is a prick for not releasing TPM on DVD until after we bought it on VHS, and he is a prick for not releasing the Ultimate Edition ATOC soundrack, and releasing the Ultimate Edition TPM soundrack after we bought the regular edition.

And yes, Greedo shooting first sucks ass.

But overall, the SEs are better than the originals, they match better with the PT (which I'm sure most of these same fanboys hate) and I'm happy to have any version of Star Wars on DVD. In fact, Lucas is a prick for making us wait this long.

So, while I think Lucas is a great creator, great director and great writer, when it comes to $$$ he can be a bastard. But I'll take a bastard over a bunch of fanboys bitches any day.

Lucas doesn't own you a damned thing.

Post: #39063
Topic: Movies that have never been released in original form on DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/39063/action/topic#39063
Time: 21-Mar-2004 1:44 PM

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Originally posted by: Warbler
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Originally posted by: Lord Peeler
I'll use whatever icon I like, thank you very much.

"I'll never buy the Ses on VHS, DVD, etc". Whatever. You already own them on VHS, because you bought them back in '97 when they came out.

But the point I need to make is, how the hell can anyone act surpised that Lucas isn't going to put the rough-cut out on DVD? He said nine years ago, NINE YEARS AGO thar the "95 release was the LAST TIME the original versions would ever be released on video. So if you where actually paying any attention you'd known that he wans't going to release the rough-cut of the movies on DVD, or VHS, or lazer disc for the last NINE FREAKIN' YEARS.

How the hell is it Lucas' fault you guys didn't pay attention when he said NINE YEARS ago that he would never release the movies in their original version ever again? I bet you giys yell at the teacher when he gives you an "F" for not paying attention in class.

This wasn't a surprise to anyone who actually looked at the back of the box of the 1995 "One Last Time" edition of the trilogy. So other than SEs haters, the very fanboys that are a pox on all Star Wars fans, the very idiots that make the rest of us look like anal-retentive losers, why would any sane, rational, observant person be surprised?

Or did I just answere my own question?

Who said I was surprised? I'm Just upset about it thats all. I hoped that after Lucas saw so many people wanted the original OT (don't call it the rough cut, I was not watching a rough cut for 20 years, I was watching a classic) that he would change his mind.

Also I never bought the VHS ruined edition of the OT (since you want to call the classic the "rough cut" I'll call the "special edition" the ruined edition. )

50,000 vs how many who will buy it? I wouldn't be surprised if it sold over 200,000 copies, if not more. So why would he care what 50,000 people who don't seem to like him in the first place think?

Post: #39058
Topic: Movies that have never been released in original form on DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/39058/action/topic#39058
Time: 21-Mar-2004 1:01 PM

I'll use whatever icon I like, thank you very much.

"I'll never buy the Ses on VHS, DVD, etc". Whatever. You already own them on VHS, because you bought them back in '97 when they came out.

But the point I need to make is, how the hell can anyone act surpised that Lucas isn't going to put the rough-cut out on DVD? He said nine years ago, NINE YEARS AGO thar the "95 release was the LAST TIME the original versions would ever be released on video. So if you where actually paying any attention you'd known that he wans't going to release the rough-cut of the movies on DVD, or VHS, or lazer disc for the last NINE FREAKIN' YEARS.

How the hell is it Lucas' fault you guys didn't pay attention when he said NINE YEARS ago that he would never release the movies in their original version ever again? I bet you giys yell at the teacher when he gives you an "F" for not paying attention in class.

This wasn't a surprise to anyone who actually looked at the back of the box of the 1995 "One Last Time" edition of the trilogy. So other than SEs haters, the very fanboys that are a pox on all Star Wars fans, the very idiots that make the rest of us look like anal-retentive losers, why would any sane, rational, observant person be surprised?

Or did I just answere my own question?

Post: #38940
Topic: Movies that have never been released in original form on DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/38940/action/topic#38940
Time: 20-Mar-2004 6:24 PM

Fear not Jimbo, you are not alone.

The SEs are much better than the originals. Oh sure, Greedo shooting first SUCKS, and I would have loved to have seen Ian in ESB, but other than a few minor quibbels here and there, the effects look better, the sound is better and the movies blend in much better with the PT.

Furthermore, in every poll I've seen/taken the SEs always outstrip the rough cuts. Every single time.

So this site has 50,000 sigs. Big deal. The SEs made millions at the box office, and no matter how many times these 50,000 people went and saw them they still didn't bankroll that success.

So we might be in the minority here, but we are the majorirty that will make the DVD release of the SEs the biggest DVD release in history.

Furthermore, if you giys hate the SEs so much, don't friggin' buy them! That'll teach GL to improve his movies!

I'd love to see y'all put your money where your mouth is and not buy the DVDs.