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#1345932
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
Time

Chase Adams said:

poppasketti said:

Here’s the color-corrected alt take for “Rey Skywalker” from idir_hh (the alt shot is at about 20 seconds in).

https://vimeo.com/418315742
pw: fanedit

idir sent the 1080p version, which is cropped heavily, so if anyone has the 4K please let me know! Otherwise we’ll have to fake it by adding grain.

Very nice, I should let everyone know that the audio Idir used was an ambient sound-mix created by myself which I will soon be remastering and sending to him since his copy was ripped straight from YouTube! Because of this, it means that the audio in Poppasketti’s clip is unfinished as of now.

Also, Poppasketti, have you made any more progress on the face-morphed “Just Rey” clip? That is the version I am keen on obtaining! 😄

Also, have any of you tried doing this whole scene with no music? I think it would be super interesting to see.

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#1345908
Topic
The Last Jedi: A ST One-Film Edit
Time

Turns out adding the Kylo ending has led to some interesting moments. Here’s the revised ending:

  • Rey cuts off Kylo/The Dice Disappear
    (I think the Falcon TLJ ending might need to go, although Rey and Leia talking about Luke is a nice moment.)
  • Kylo runs back to Vader. Vision sequence. Haunted by Vader/Luke. Sees the ruins of the Death Star and leaves.
  • Small part of Forces of Darkness fan film: Vader choking Kylo. “Let the past die. Kill it if you have to.” Kylo kills Vader.
  • cut to Ben at the Death Star ruins. Leia calls to him. Han appears. Kylo throws away the saber. We hear Luke. “I’m sorry.” He leaves in the TIE.
  • Rey travels to Tatooine. As she makes her way to Luke’s but, we cut to…
  • Kids learning about Luke. Broom boy sweeps.
  • Rey slides into Luke’s old home. She buries the two halves of the saber. She reveals her new saber.
  • Ben connects with her one last time. His ship burns in the background on a desert planet. “I offered you my hand once. You wanted to take it. Why didn’t you?” “I did want to take your hand. Ben’s hand.” Rey smiles. She notices the old lady. Sees Luke’s ghost. “Rey Skywalker.” Leaves on the Falcon. Broom Boy observes and looks up into the stars.”
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#1345434
Topic
The Last Jedi: A ST One-Film Edit
Time

adobewan said:

It sounds really good and simple enough to understand. My ‘The End Edition’ of TLJ is something of a similar edit and it was hard to find a super satisfying way to wrap up Kylo’s story

Sweet! Glad to have your stamp of approval lol. I also love your edit, btw. You did a great job! Did you do the shot with the Luke-only force ghost? That was awesome.

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#1345396
Topic
The Last Jedi: A ST One-Film Edit
Time

adobewan said:

How are you planning on ordering the ending with this scene?

Thanks! So this vision would probably either replace the Falcon ending of TLJ or come after it. Then, I’d probably use Kylo’s flight to Exegol, but replace Exegol with Kef Bir or the forest moon. When he’s on the ruins, he reaches out in the force again to hear guidance from the darkness. But instead, out of the silence, Leia calls his name. She uses her life force to project Han to him. Kylo throws his lightsaber in the ocean, then realizes both of his parents are gone. He hears Luke whisper his sorrow.

Then it would go into the kids learning about Luke Skywalker/Rey on Tatooine.

Next time we see Ben, after Rey buries the pieces of Luke’s saber, he’s in a desert (ideally Tatooine) where he chooses to enter exile. I’d love he and Rey to connect one more time there, but I’m not sure I can swing that lol. Thoughts?

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#1345000
Topic
The Last Jedi: A ST One-Film Edit
Time

NeverarGreat said:

I see. In that case I think the Solo reveal might just work!

I say go for the ending, there’s really only one way to see if it works 😉

Haha know anybody up for helping this padawan with some mask and track?

I would need to change the planet when Kylo is on his way to Exegol, and to mask the burning ship/smoke out in the Pasana desert and/or put him on Tatooine.

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#1344933
Topic
The Last Jedi: A ST One-Film Edit
Time

Great thoughts!

So in the interrogation, he takes his mask off, but it’s never said who he is. So in my mind, it’s like a subversion of expectations. We expect this guy we just met to be like Vader, but he’s not. Rey sees into his mind and sees he wants to be like Vader. But that’s all we know. So I was thinking it might be good to find out when Rey does that Kylo is actually Han’s son. Reveal lol. That’s where I’m coming from. Is there something I’m missing?

And yeah, I totally get the thing about Ben’s redemption. That’s why I don’t think it’s necessary. If it were to work, it would start after Han’s dice disappear. The idea is that Ben is now broken. He’s lost everything. He runs back to back to Vader’s mask because his attempt to let the past die has failed. It keeps catching up with him. The mask no longer speaks to him. It’s more visions of Han and Luke. I’d like to use some of the Kylo/Vader face off fan film. He faces Vader and is drawn to the Death Star ruins. In a last desperate attempt to stay on his path, he goes there, thinking that he can hear the darkness guide him more clearly. But instead, his parents call his name. And then Han appears.

Yes, it’s contrived lol. But it made sense in my head. Not sure if I’ll do it yet, but that’s the direction it would go if I do.

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#1344759
Topic
The Last Jedi: A ST One-Film Edit
Time

NeverarGreat said:

Lifeincontext said:

  • Scene 1: Rey: Day in the Life (because the transition from stars is just so dang good)

Is this the transition you’re referring to? (Password: fanedit)

Overall, I like the idea behind this edit. The Luke and Rey story is the strongest completed aspect of this trilogy since Finn has been tragically dumped by the wayside, so focusing on that makes a lot of sense.

What would the crawl of such a film look like?

Yes! Very much so. It’s like…why wasn’t it that way to begin with?

So for right now, I’m thinking of making it more its own standalone thing, so it wouldn’t have the standard episode crawl. It may have something Solo or Blade Runner-esque. But since it’s (kind of?) part of the Skywalker Saga…I’m open to other opinions lol.

Also, you said overall. I’m curious to see what changes you think will really work and what things you might not agree with?

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#1344703
Topic
The Last Jedi: A ST One-Film Edit
Time

So I know there are a few one-film edit threads out there. I have a few ideas that might vary from what’s been discussed, so I wanted to post them here and see if anyone has thoughts on how to improve it!

My goal is to make a standalone sequel film that will focus on centrally on Rey and Kylo Ren. That means very little Resistance. Here’s my outline:

  • Scene 1: Rey: Day in the Life (because the transition from stars is just so dang good)
    Rey goes about her day, rescues BB-8
  • Scene 2: Rey with BB-8/Unkar Plutt
  • Scene 3: Finn meeting Rey & BB-8
  • Scene 4: Millennium Falcon chase thru Han reunion
    NO RATHTARS
  • Scene 5: Han takes the gang to Maz
  • Scene 6: Rey has a vision
  • Scene 7: Rey runs away and captured
  • Scene 8: Kylo & Vader/Rey’s Interrogation
    NO STARKILLER (just a base on an ice planet)
  • Scene 9: Rey Escapes/The Search/Han & Finn Rescue Rey
  • ​​​Scene 10: Han Killed/Duel with Kylo
    FIRST REVEAL OF HAN’S SON; FINN DIES
  • Scene 11: Meeting Leia/Map Discovery/Rey Leaves
  • Scene 12: Rey Finds Luke
  • Scene 13: Resistance Flees
    (cut most of it; just them leaving the planet and jumping to lightspeed)
  • Scene 14: Kylo & Snoke
  • Scene 15: Rey & Luke (including Luke Takes a Moment)
  • Scene 16: Resistance Attacked
    Leia dies OR Ben saves her via the Force OR we cut from her hand to the window to the gurney. No more Poppins.​​​
  • Scene 17: The Tree/Luke refuses to help
  • Scene 18: Luke at the Falcon
  • Scene 19: Force Timing 1/Lesson 1
  • Scene 20: Force Timing 2/Lesson 2
  • Scene 21: Lesson 3/Force Timing 3
  • Scene 22: Rey in the Cave
  • Scene 23: Force Timing 4/Rey Leaves Ach-To
  • Scene 24: Luke & Yoda
  • Scene 25: Rey, Kylo & Snoke
  • Scene 26: Showdown on Crait/Luke’s Death
    No Resistance fight; cut to explosion at the gate; just a few shots of them looking vulnerable/Leia & Luke
  • Scene 27: Rey Cuts Off Kylo/On the Falcon
  • [Ideally, insert Kylo’s Haunting/Redemption here because it’s a good scene, but it’s not necessary]
  • Scene 28: Legacy
    Children are told the legend of Luke Skywalker. A broom boy uses the force and sweeps.
    [If including Ben’s redemption scene, I’d love to include a Ben in exile thing here.]
    Rey appears on Tatooine, the place where Luke grew up. She buries the two halves of Anakin/Luke’s light saber. An old woman appears and asks who she is. Luke’s force ghost appears. Better take of “Rey Skywalker.” Rey leaves on the Falcon.
    Broom Boy sees it jump to hyperspace. Ends on him looking at the stars.
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#1335886
Topic
The Last Jedi - 'The End' Edition' (V1 NOW COMPLETE!)
Time

adobewan said:

I’ve updated the ending of the film and posted a clip in HD. This should give a much better idea at what it will end up looking like. I still need to apply effects to remove Leia’s saber from the final scene and clean up the effects and music in pother places.
Here’s a link for anyone interested. May the force be with you 😄

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-p01gwc6rzOPNUtmRTcJIYIcu75V2Q9c

This is good! A couple of ideas:

  1. I totally get why you rearranged the end scene with everyone on the falcon. You wanted to mark the closure. But I think it might flow better if the order was like the theatrical. I only think this because right now it cuts from Rey to the Falcon to Rey again. Just a thought.

  2. After Leia’s “I felt it too,” why not just fade directly into the ending montage? The slow zoom out on Rey and Leia would work nicely as a transition, I would think.

  3. Have you considered mixing the broom boy with the Rey Skywalker ending? Basically, it would cut from the ending montage to the kids telling the story of Luke, then once the kid starts sweeping and we get that shot of his feet, you would cut to Rey on Tatooine. Then after Rey says “Rey Skywalker,” you’d cut back to broom boy for the final shots. You’d have to adjust the timing of the shots a bit, but I think it might work well. I guess it depends on what you prefer for the ending, I guess. 😃

But I love your ideas!

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#1326105
Topic
Idea: Star Wars - <em>Prologue &amp; Epilogue</em>
Time

YES. I had a very similar idea.

The PT prologue is my next project, and I was probably going to mostly save the reveal…until the last second of the film. It would end on Vader’s breathing. In my mind, this film would be built to be viewed in Machete order (after Empire).

I’m working on a ST epilogue edit now. Most ideas I had are very similar to yours. However, it focuses on both Kylo and Rey, starting with the Kylo/Vader scene. These characters both represent the legacy of the OT. My edit will still include a couple of scenes from ROS, mainly some training, Death Star fight, and the final scene of her on the desert planet, though higly edited; this is mostly because Rey/Kylo are the central characters of this story, and I think we should see a solid conclusion to their arcs. You’re welcome to check out my outline for the project if you wanna take a look/provide any feedback/maybe partner up in some respect. Excited to see what you do with this!

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#1323618
Topic
The Last Jedi: Rekindled (V3 UPDATE!)
Time

pleasehello said:

NFBisms said:

StarkillerAG said:

NFBisms said:

^But, that’s not Luke’s arc in TLJ. That’s the moment it starts, but the overall journey isn’t about Luke overcoming his darkness. In fact, the arc itself is very specifically about why his failures aren’t a regression. I don’t know what to tell you.

I don’t know what to tell you, either. I saw Luke’s failure with Ben as a clear regression. Yoda supports that, saying “young Skywalker, still looking to the horizon.” This implies that Luke hasn’t evolved at all since the beginning of ESB, which seems like the definition of a regression.

When I say “needed to be told this way” I just mean that it’s clearly relevant. A logical next step to take from the OT that is more meaningful than Luke “finding the first Jedi temple” or something. This actually expands upon the themes introduced in those films. TROS is the film that rehashes.

Luke trying to kill Ben isn’t a “logical next step.” Like I said, there are a thousand ways TLJ could have expanded Luke’s character that wouldn’t feel like a regression. He could be tired of the endless cycle of war, and want the conflict to resolve itself. Or he could be scared of Snoke’s power, and worried that he wouldn’t be able to handle the situation. That would be a true evolution of Luke’s character. Instead, Rian chose to repeat a conflict that Luke has already faced.

For starters, Luke is not conflicted at all in this film about what he did to Ben. Hence, not the conflict. Not rehashed. (he even says this to ben: “you here to save my soul?” “nope”)

It’s all about the aftermath of that failure. And it’s about how failure doesn’t define you. How what you’ve done doesn’t dictate what you can do, how you aren’t your past, you’re your future. It stops relegating responsibility for heroism on a character arc or bloodline or the light side or the dark - and on people. Their choices and their actions. Luke Skywalker as the son who loved his father, not a heroic Jedi who defeated Vader and the Emperor.

Luke taking responsibility as who he was, the boy looking out at the horizon, and not the pretty story he became as Luke the Legend - reinforces those ideals. Are there other things they could have done? Of course, but this isn’t bad at all. It’s an idealistic human message that I think we missed out on when Vader died. Redemption is about moving on with every mistake as a part of yourself. Not atoning for or running away from your past. Moving forward. Star Wars isn’t the superhero story TROS seems to think it was; it was always the little guys standing up to the big impossible odds, thrust into a world bigger than themselves. Luke’s arc here reinforces that spirit. Making him a superhero wouldn’t not work, but it’s cheaper than understanding the humanity behind his actions.

I guess, if anything TLJ says “regression doesn’t exist” and holding the world to that standard is what leads to disappointment and cynicism. That’s a mature take on heroic idealism that I’m glad Star Wars grappled with at least once before becoming mindless nonsense. That even if you and everything you’re fighting against lets you down or becomes harder, doesn’t mean you should give up. In fact, that’s why you should continue. And you will have to, because there is no happily ever after.

Word.

Hear hear. Well said.

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#1323603
Topic
The Last Jedi: Rekindled (V3 UPDATE!)
Time

NFBisms said:

^But, that’s not Luke’s arc in TLJ. That’s the moment it starts, but the overall journey isn’t about Luke overcoming his darkness. In fact, the arc itself is very specifically about why his failures aren’t a regression. I don’t know what to tell you.

When I say “needed to be told this way” I just mean that it’s clearly relevant. A logical next step to take from the OT that is more meaningful than Luke “finding the first Jedi temple” or something. This actually expands upon the themes introduced in those films. TROS is the film that rehashes.

I absolutely agree on this one. While TLJ has its problems, Luke’s arc in the film very much moves his story forward. I personally don’t think adding something specific to what Luke says would be beneficial. If you want to accentuate what’s already there, that’s something worth considering, but it would need to be meaningful.

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#1321868
Topic
The Last Jedi: A Spark of Hope
Time

lantern51 said:

https://vimeo.com/387181370

I need a little help with the plot of this edit here. So I show Finn with the tracker that Rey uses to find the resistance. How to handle this after that can be done in 3 ways that I can think of.

  1. As you see in the video, I can try to piece together something that shows Finn passing it onto Poe. This is because I really wanted to cut out the sub-plot that goes absolutely nowhere.

  2. I can just not worry about it, we know someone has it and just cut the scenes that hearken back to the tracker from the point that Finn has it.

  3. My least favorite option, but I can live with it. I do something like Sobo Films did and just make Rose the code-breaker and skip the whole Canto Bight stuff and bring Rose and Finn right to the ship and take care of them being tracked. This may also make Rose a bit more likable because I am still going to cut her using the cattle prod on people.

Wow, I’d love a link to this.

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#1321280
Topic
Revenge of the Sith (The New Canon Cut) [DRAFT AVAILABLE]
Time

NFBisms said:

In light of the new trailer for season 7 of TCW, I’ve revisited this and have a new version coming out soon!

I’ve honestly re-added a lot of stuff back in but the structure remains largely the same as before. Inspired by Hal’s in that Anakin’s political motivations come before any nightmares he has of Padme. That said, in this new version I diverge halfway through to make those nightmares his primary motivations towards the end.

Rewatching my old cut I made Anakin almost too sympathetic and likeable in the first half, that the political motives honestly came off as a weaker excuse for his turn. The original “deal with the devil” is emphasized a bit more now. Anakin’s politics are still his politics but I’ve made him more remorseful and aware. It’s impressive what removing/rearranging shots can do in reconfiguring his state of mind.

Anakin is conflicted between Palpatine and the Jedi of course, but in the theatrical ROTS it never feels like he’s actually on the Jedi’s side after he has that nightmare of Padme. In Hal’s, it just feels like he’s on Palpatine’s side the entire time. Caught in the middle, but he has no love for the Jedi outside of maybe Obi-Wan. My cut was different in that it placed Anakin dominantly in the Jedi camp, and it never really seemed like Palpatine had successfully turned him against the council. While Hal’s makes his “fall” track better from beginning to end, using his version of the plot coming together just makes my take on Anakin’s turn almost nonsensical. I think I just coasted on the idea that the prequels were bad and Hal already edited it this way, so I couldn’t get any better than that for my version - but I’ve found that I can. (better for what I’m going for)

In the theatrical version, in his conflicted power hungry state, he becomes lost and blind to the truth to the point he makes the wrong decision. In my edit, Anakin actually gains clarity. Rather than Anakin being blinded by his anger at the council and clouded by his fears for Padme - he becomes fully cognizant of everything in play but makes his decision in spite of that. He chooses Padme over what he knows is right, not that he thinks it’s right to do.

It’s become a somewhat radical edit as no scene has been untampered with to the point that most conversations have a different context or meaning than originally intended.

New changelist coming soon.

Here’s something I was playing around with the other day:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pbmKrj39mpGemzRYCdkpZHvQHDUgeteg/view?usp=sharing

I’ve shifted the motivations of everyone involved in that scene. Anakin isn’t crazed and proudly evil, nor is he excited about his prospects as a galaxy-ruler. He’s remorseful but also trying to justify his actions to Padme and Obi-Wan. He’s frustrated that she doesn’t want to accept that he’s doing it for her.

Theatrical!Padme is done dirty in this movie and the re-insertion of the deleted scenes only mitigates that section of the film. By the end she still doesn’t have a role to play but tragic wife almost stupidly in love with Anakin. Here - and this works to the benefit of both Anakin and Padme - she actually provokes Anakin into choking her. He doesn’t just do it out of paranoia. It’s not quite the same as the supposed original idea where she stabs him, but it’s close enough with what we have. Basically “Yes! I did bring him here to kill you!” Obi-Wan then takes on the role of asking Anakin to come back to the light.

OMG I can’t wait to see this!!

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#1320814
Topic
‘Heir To The Jedi’ Duology
Time

I really love this idea.

Intercutting the Star destroyers going down is great. I might actually consider a couple clips of the “they’re just people” moment, although if it detracts too much from Luke’s moment, it might not work.

Part of me wishes some of the Rey/Kylo stuff from TROS was salvageable because there was some compelling DNA there, but in this duology, it just wouldn’t be necessary.

I don’t know that you could use much more than that.

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#1318462
Topic
The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
Time

OutboundFlight said:

Lifeincontext said:

OutboundFlight said:

INCOMING: LONG POST
I’ve thought long and hard about to fanedit the Sequel Trilogy. Before TROS I was hoping to create my own radical edit that brought together the themes of all three movies and make them equal to the OT for me. But with TROS, I’ve realized the ST really has no point, because it all ends in the same spot as Episode Six. We don’t need three more episodes to the Skywalker Saga.

But I don’t want to just abandon these movies. There’s individual moments that are great! So after a long, while thinking, here’s how I’d fanedit the ST.

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Instead of a full episode to the Skywalker Saga, this would be more an anthology, to be viewed after the happy ending of Episode Six.

“At last the work of generations is complete. The great error is corrected. The day of victory is at hand. The Day of revenge. The day of the Sith!”

The edit opens with Palpatine’s message, followed by the awakening of a fleet of Star Destroyers. One jumps to Coruscant, the New Republic Capital, and destroys it with a single blast.

IMG

Cut to black.

The “long time ago” text becomes a Blade Runner title crawl (like Solo):

The unthinkable has occurred.
The New Republic is dead,
destroyed by the remnants of
the Old Empire: the FIRST ORDER.

Led by the Emperor’s secret
apprentice, Snoke, and Kylo Ren,
the child of Han and Leia Skywalker,
the First Order commands a fleet
of mobile planet killers: the
ultimate technological terror.

Few oppose them. They are the
RESISTANCE, a final stand against
evil. But they cannot win this
fight alone. They need hope.

And so as the Skywalker Saga
comes to a close, it would appear
the fate of the galaxy lies in
the hands of the last jedi:
the missing LUKE SKYWALKER…

IMG

Forgive me. I feel it again. The call to the light.

Our first real scene is Kylo Ren and Vader. This immediately connects us to the rest of the saga and Vader. We also see Kylo’s struggle. Kylo leaves the room and we instantly transition to the opening of TFA - the Stormtroopers prepare their assault over Jakku.

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Poe Dameron acquires the map to Luke Skywalker. TFA then plays out in its normal manner: Poe is caught, Finn defects, and BB8 calls into the hands of a random scavenger. All references to Rey’s parents being important will be cut: she is a nobody in this version, designed as an insult to Ben’s obsession with family heritage.

The Rathar Scene would be cut, but everything else in The Force Awakens remains as is up until the third act. Starkiller is cut and replaced with Kylo Ren’s castle.

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This would be the hardest part of the edit to pull off, but an overall cold tint would be applied to these exterior shots and a normal ice planet be used for establishing planet shots. The effect would be removing the ultra Death Star from the Sequels.

Finn, who has been trying to run the entire time, leads a rescue mission for Rey. Han is killed in the process, which Kylo believes will cement his turn to the dark side, but he is wrong, and Rey accepts her destiny with the force and defeats him in battle.

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And all of a sudden we are in the land of The Last Jedi. Thankfully this movie takes place right after the one before, so unlike TROS, it is easier to link them up. Both Kylo and Rey meet disappointment with their “masters”. Luke, from which the entire crux of the story was built on, refuses to help, and Kylo’s descent into darkness only makes him more conflicted.

The whole Resistance subplot isn’t shown at all. Keep in mind up to this point, the main characters have been: Rey, Finn, and Kylo. No need for minor character Poe to be upgraded to character arc in the third act. And Finn was just taken out of the story with his medical injuries, the injuries will remain while the Resistance is being chased, and he is only seen again in the “rocks” moment on Crait, where Rey and Finn embrace.

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One random idea I have is for instead of Leia suddenly using the force, when she had no show of it beforehand, it be Ben who saves her life. I think this would add a real level of humanity to Kylo.

So the movie is all building to Rey and Kylo meeting Snoke. In this edit, the crawl will establish him as the Secret Apprentice to Palpatine, sorta a backup plan in case Vader went awol. There’s no reason to explain much more. Snoke is a stand-in for “evil emperor”, and I think this works better in an individual epilogue than a full episodic trilogy because it doesn’t need to explain everything. It can be symbolic of society constantly facing the same demons, without any of the episodic “fun fun fun” subplots being intertwined.

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Luke is redeemed by Yoda in a final teaching moment of Star Wars, and suddenly, the Epilogue has more meaning. Yes, the Empire is theoretically at its strongest, but that does not mean we need to curl up and die. The meaning of the Jedi has never been about saving the galaxy, but providing hope for the galaxy. This would really contextualize Eps 1-6 not as this huge event but one of many Star Wars, and give the Epilogue a purpose in the overall story.

Kylo doesn’t have to be redeemed. The ending would be more ambiguous. The First Order won the fight, but the Resistance won the Skywalker Saga. The final scene of TROS would be moved up to show Rey, a nobody, taking up the Skywalker mantra, not Kylo. But the last scene in the Epilogue, imo, should be the broom boy, intercut with shots of Young Anakin, Luke and Rey all watching the stars.

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I know a lot of these themes are presented in The Last Jedi, but I think an Epilogue Anthology would suit the story better. For one, having it be Episode 8 implies Episode 9 is going to end the war in a different way when it doesn’t. I also didn’t like the Resistance in TLJ. But the bigger issue I have is episodic films are expected to be continuations of the story, and Ep 7 doesn’t really take up where you would expect. A more introspective spin-off/epilogue would accomplish the themes of TLJ better.

I really love this. Is this something you’re interested in actually implementing?

Yes! I’m a bit busy irl atm, but I wouldn’t mind doing this in a couple months!

I’d love to help if you need it!

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#1318300
Topic
The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
Time

OutboundFlight said:

INCOMING: LONG POST
I’ve thought long and hard about to fanedit the Sequel Trilogy. Before TROS I was hoping to create my own radical edit that brought together the themes of all three movies and make them equal to the OT for me. But with TROS, I’ve realized the ST really has no point, because it all ends in the same spot as Episode Six. We don’t need three more episodes to the Skywalker Saga.

But I don’t want to just abandon these movies. There’s individual moments that are great! So after a long, while thinking, here’s how I’d fanedit the ST.

IMG

Instead of a full episode to the Skywalker Saga, this would be more an anthology, to be viewed after the happy ending of Episode Six.

“At last the work of generations is complete. The great error is corrected. The day of victory is at hand. The Day of revenge. The day of the Sith!”

The edit opens with Palpatine’s message, followed by the awakening of a fleet of Star Destroyers. One jumps to Coruscant, the New Republic Capital, and destroys it with a single blast.

IMG

Cut to black.

The “long time ago” text becomes a Blade Runner title crawl (like Solo):

The unthinkable has occurred.
The New Republic is dead,
destroyed by the remnants of
the Old Empire: the FIRST ORDER.

Led by the Emperor’s secret
apprentice, Snoke, and Kylo Ren,
the child of Han and Leia Skywalker,
the First Order commands a fleet
of mobile planet killers: the
ultimate technological terror.

Few oppose them. They are the
RESISTANCE, a final stand against
evil. But they cannot win this
fight alone. They need hope.

And so as the Skywalker Saga
comes to a close, it would appear
the fate of the galaxy lies in
the hands of the last jedi:
the missing LUKE SKYWALKER…

IMG

Forgive me. I feel it again. The call to the light.

Our first real scene is Kylo Ren and Vader. This immediately connects us to the rest of the saga and Vader. We also see Kylo’s struggle. Kylo leaves the room and we instantly transition to the opening of TFA - the Stormtroopers prepare their assault over Jakku.

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Poe Dameron acquires the map to Luke Skywalker. TFA then plays out in its normal manner: Poe is caught, Finn defects, and BB8 calls into the hands of a random scavenger. All references to Rey’s parents being important will be cut: she is a nobody in this version, designed as an insult to Ben’s obsession with family heritage.

The Rathar Scene would be cut, but everything else in The Force Awakens remains as is up until the third act. Starkiller is cut and replaced with Kylo Ren’s castle.

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This would be the hardest part of the edit to pull off, but an overall cold tint would be applied to these exterior shots and a normal ice planet be used for establishing planet shots. The effect would be removing the ultra Death Star from the Sequels.

Finn, who has been trying to run the entire time, leads a rescue mission for Rey. Han is killed in the process, which Kylo believes will cement his turn to the dark side, but he is wrong, and Rey accepts her destiny with the force and defeats him in battle.

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And all of a sudden we are in the land of The Last Jedi. Thankfully this movie takes place right after the one before, so unlike TROS, it is easier to link them up. Both Kylo and Rey meet disappointment with their “masters”. Luke, from which the entire crux of the story was built on, refuses to help, and Kylo’s descent into darkness only makes him more conflicted.

The whole Resistance subplot isn’t shown at all. Keep in mind up to this point, the main characters have been: Rey, Finn, and Kylo. No need for minor character Poe to be upgraded to character arc in the third act. And Finn was just taken out of the story with his medical injuries, the injuries will remain while the Resistance is being chased, and he is only seen again in the “rocks” moment on Crait, where Rey and Finn embrace.

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One random idea I have is for instead of Leia suddenly using the force, when she had no show of it beforehand, it be Ben who saves her life. I think this would add a real level of humanity to Kylo.

So the movie is all building to Rey and Kylo meeting Snoke. In this edit, the crawl will establish him as the Secret Apprentice to Palpatine, sorta a backup plan in case Vader went awol. There’s no reason to explain much more. Snoke is a stand-in for “evil emperor”, and I think this works better in an individual epilogue than a full episodic trilogy because it doesn’t need to explain everything. It can be symbolic of society constantly facing the same demons, without any of the episodic “fun fun fun” subplots being intertwined.

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Luke is redeemed by Yoda in a final teaching moment of Star Wars, and suddenly, the Epilogue has more meaning. Yes, the Empire is theoretically at its strongest, but that does not mean we need to curl up and die. The meaning of the Jedi has never been about saving the galaxy, but providing hope for the galaxy. This would really contextualize Eps 1-6 not as this huge event but one of many Star Wars, and give the Epilogue a purpose in the overall story.

Kylo doesn’t have to be redeemed. The ending would be more ambiguous. The First Order won the fight, but the Resistance won the Skywalker Saga. The final scene of TROS would be moved up to show Rey, a nobody, taking up the Skywalker mantra, not Kylo. But the last scene in the Epilogue, imo, should be the broom boy, intercut with shots of Young Anakin, Luke and Rey all watching the stars.

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I know a lot of these themes are presented in The Last Jedi, but I think an Epilogue Anthology would suit the story better. For one, having it be Episode 8 implies Episode 9 is going to end the war in a different way when it doesn’t. I also didn’t like the Resistance in TLJ. But the bigger issue I have is episodic films are expected to be continuations of the story, and Ep 7 doesn’t really take up where you would expect. A more introspective spin-off/epilogue would accomplish the themes of TLJ better.

I really love this. Is this something you’re interested in actually implementing?