Lifeincontext

This is worth pursuing. Love it.

Would love a link!

Hey everyone,

So here’s a sad update: I lost my first batch of files when my hard drive died a few months ago. I do have a few things, including the ending. But I’m waiting until I can save up to get a new Mac, so I can actually have some solid hardware/software. (I had been working off a 2010 MacBook, and it was super buggy.)

I really appreciate all the patience and support. Thank you for coming back and reminding me why this is worth it. Part of the reason I love this community. Hope to be back soon!

Knight of Kalee said:

Lifeincontext said:

Knight of Kalee said:

The Younglings arc should be at least in Continuity because it explains what happened to Hondo’s base, shows the Slave One repaired and explains the lore around kyber crystals, which are a staple of the new canon. If included in Quality, maybe you could trim the arc a bit (much as you plan to do with Onderon) and move it as early as possible (before “Eminence”).

I’m curious. Why would you say to move it before Eminence?

I meant Revival, lol

Gotcha lol. Still, why move the arc?

Knight of Kalee said:

The Younglings arc should be at least in Continuity because it explains what happened to Hondo’s base, shows the Slave One repaired and explains the lore around kyber crystals, which are a staple of the new canon. If included in Quality, maybe you could trim the arc a bit (much as you plan to do with Onderon) and move it as early as possible (before “Eminence”).

I’m curious. Why would you say to move it before Eminence?

Yeah my biggest concerns with this list is spreading Maul out just a bit too thin and starting Nightsisters too early for Ventress.

I totally see what you’re doing. Planting seeds is definitely important. I just think that it might mess with the pacing a bit too much, although it’s hard to really get a grasp on that without seeing them.

adobewan said:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UBg2yW33ABIukMngZdr3tJD5b0knCaEv/view?usp=sharing

Here’s an updated link including the Yoda scene. This version omits the R2 scene as one possibility. I’ll include a version with that scene shortly. I think this works really well! I may still have to trim some of the dialogue but once I get the outline of the film looking right I’ll start focusing on editing the audio

Great job! I love the scene reordering. The pacing is beautiful for most of it. That last montage feels off though. I would make the cuts tighter and keep the original rhythm of her words. But the concept is lovely. Well done.

Lifeincontext said:

Hey everyone!

After some necessary time away, I’m continuing my work on this.

A few things:

• When Finn finally tells Rey that he’s a stormtrooper, I’ve added some flashback over that conversation with a couple moments from the original opening. It works!

• I’m having trouble with the transition from Finn’s death into the Last Jedi. The scenes up until Rey & Chewie leave are really hard to work around, given that so much needs to be cut. I would love feedback/ideas about how to handle this. Here’s my thoughts so far:

1. We see Chewie with the Falcon pick up Rey; cut to Resistance base, where Leia & Rey have their moment. Cut to Leia mourning Han (flashback to convo about Ben), then C-3PO interrupts. Cut from Leia’s “Tell me.” to Rey blasting off from the planet.
   OR
2. Blackout on Rey mourning Finn. Cut to either Leia mourning Han (same as above) OR Leia bidding Rey goodbye before she leaves.

• I’m still playing around with the ending. Thoughts?

1. For right now, no more Kylo visions. Instead, after Rey cuts off Kylo, we cut to black. Then the next shot is the Death Star. I had some establishing shots of the interior, but they’re not long enough for it to flow, so those are gone. Instead, we cut from the initial establishing shot/maybe a shot or two of the gigantic waves splashing over the death star to Kylo remembering Han’s death/his father’s visitation. I’m also including a brief Rey-Kylo connection using the “I did want to take your hand” line.
2. After Kylo leaves the Death Star, Rey arrives on Tatooine. I still have to decide between the two placements of the broom boy scenes. It’s either Rey approaches the homestead --> Kids story time…broom sweeping --> Rey sliding down hill OR Old woman asks Rey who she is --> Kids story time…broom boy sweeping --> Rey sees Luke. The ending beats would be the same either way.

I’m excited to get back to work. My goal is for this edit to flow as seamlessly as possible. I’m also admittedly a bit of a perfectionist, which may not be a great quality for fan-editing. Thanks to everyone who’s corresponded for your help!

Hey everyone,

Still working on this edit. Been busy with grad school applications/work, but I’ve been tackling other details. I’m now in the place to come back to the above problem spots. Anyone have any ideas?

EddieDean said:

S07E01-04 - Bad Batch Arc - Unsure

Tricky one to make a call on. I like this arc, though it does need trimming. The heart of it is of course the introduction of the Bad Batch, and Rex’s relationship with Echo. Echo looking nice and emaciated is cool - again we’re humanising clones. The natives are pretty same-old.

Aesthetically it’s not much - lovely lighting, but it’s on dull planets with the goofy Techno Union aesthetic and some weird new flimsy battle droids.

I’m really not sure on this one.
In favour of quality cut: A nice callback to our opening episode via CF99; new clones are interesting; development of Echo; nice Anakin/Padme scene; has everyone but the big three so I guess you’re putting them all to bed here.
Against inclusion in quality cut: Echo was last seen in the Citadel which isn’t very strong; very much a backdoor pilot; might not want to focus on brand new clones this near to the end; Anakin and Rex aren’t very interesting in this; it doesn’t escalate the war mysteries or other plots; it kind of becomes a Mace Windu episode at the end.

I’m actually tending towards not including it in the Quality Cut, since it’s neither core to Ahsoka/Maul/Mandalore, nor is it one of the more interesting episodes that comes this late in the show’s chronology.

I reckon you’d cut out all the native stuff. Start with the intro of the Bad Batch, have them learn Echo’s location, go straight to Skako Minor beginning at the elevator, fairly snippy Echo rescue, show them jumping onto the keeradaks (why? can’t explain well but they’ll have to just go for it), then wipe back to Anaxes for the return and second fight there. You’d lose a little character dev for the Bad Batch but they’re not really the focus unless they’re getting their own show, in which case they’ll repilot anyway.

If it were me, I’d put it in continuity or complete for the reasons you listed above. Only reason to think about continuity is Anakin/clone character development. But it’s not necessary for the quality arc.

EddieDean said:
I don’t think it quite counts as interesting development for Ahsoka, since she’s portrayed as merely competent here (which we already know), and her plot with Lux actually doesn’t go beyond a little jealousy, which is a shame after some of the earlier setup.

You’re doing great work here, man!

I do feel like I need to stand up for this arc, though. On my recent rewatch, I came to realize how important this arc was for Ahsoka’s development. First, it provides catharsis regarding the Ahsoka-Lux relationship for the audience, which is important; seeds shouldn’t be planted if they don’t go anywhere (which we sadly learned with the ST). I know the arc doesn’t do a great job coming through on it in the writing, but at least it addresses the relationship’s culmination/end. Second, while admittedly very subtle, there are two things Ahsoka struggles with here: her jealousy, obviously, meaning that she wants to hold onto Lux – a moment where she’s tempted to be possessive (a very Dark Side emotion)…but even more than that, she realizes that she needs to let go of her attachment to Lux (on a romantic level) AND her attachments in general (on a spiritual/Jedi level). This realization is then immediately challenged when she can’t save the girl Lux loves at the end, making her question her role as a Jedi and feel kind of powerless. It’s setting her up for more internal conflict that we see pay off with Barris in her trial arc.

I may not be adequately articulating what I’m trying to say here, but I hope you get the gist. I think it’s at least worth discussing.

Hey everyone!

After some necessary time away, I’m continuing my work on this.

A few things:

• When Finn finally tells Rey that he’s a stormtrooper, I’ve added some flashback over that conversation with a couple moments from the original opening. It works!

• I’m having trouble with the transition from Finn’s death into the Last Jedi. The scenes up until Rey & Chewie leave are really hard to work around, given that so much needs to be cut. I would love feedback/ideas about how to handle this. Here’s my thoughts so far:

1. We see Chewie with the Falcon pick up Rey; cut to Resistance base, where Leia & Rey have their moment. Cut to Leia mourning Han (flashback to convo about Ben), then C-3PO interrupts. Cut from Leia’s “Tell me.” to Rey blasting off from the planet.
   OR
2. Blackout on Rey mourning Finn. Cut to either Leia mourning Han (same as above) OR Leia bidding Rey goodbye before she leaves.

• I’m still playing around with the ending. Thoughts?

1. For right now, no more Kylo visions. Instead, after Rey cuts off Kylo, we cut to black. Then the next shot is the Death Star. I had some establishing shots of the interior, but they’re not long enough for it to flow, so those are gone. Instead, we cut from the initial establishing shot/maybe a shot or two of the gigantic waves splashing over the death star to Kylo remembering Han’s death/his father’s visitation. I’m also including a brief Rey-Kylo connection using the “I did want to take your hand” line.
2. After Kylo leaves the Death Star, Rey arrives on Tatooine. I still have to decide between the two placements of the broom boy scenes. It’s either Rey approaches the homestead --> Kids story time…broom sweeping --> Rey sliding down hill OR Old woman asks Rey who she is --> Kids story time…broom boy sweeping --> Rey sees Luke. The ending beats would be the same either way.

I’m excited to get back to work. My goal is for this edit to flow as seamlessly as possible. I’m also admittedly a bit of a perfectionist, which may not be a great quality for fan-editing. Thanks to everyone who’s corresponded for your help!

JakeRyan17 said:

Sir Ridley said:

I’ll include “Kylo searches the Falcon” in my edit, so eventually I’ll be able to share my version of that. Same thing with some of the TLJ scenes, but I’m focusing on TFA for now.

Were you ever able to fix this scene? This and Finn with the Villager are two scenes that I’ve been trying to remove the timecode from with no success.

Same here!

Spottyfriend said:

Wondered if there were any plans to continue with this? The ending section especially holds so much promise! If ever completed it definitely has the potential to save the ST for me!

Yes, there are plans. I’ve just been extremely busy, and I had to switch my editing software to a different computer. I’ll hopefully post an update soon. Sorry about that!

adobewan said:

Any updates? I’d love to see the latest version

Out of town this week, but I’ll post another clip soon!

Lifeincontext said:

Spottyfriend said:

Lifeincontext said:

Here’s a new version of the ending. Based on some feedback, I tried to find an effective new arrangement of the Tatooine/Broom Boy clips. I found a moment I thought was interesting. Let me know what you guys think!

https://vimeo.com/418754884
PW: fanedit

This is great!

Really sorry to be THAT guy (!), but I’m still not entirely sure the initial Broom Boy scene placement fully works pacing-wise. It’s definitely a very cool idea: while Rey pauses, considering her place in the galaxy and Luke’s legacy, this is then mirrored by seeing Luke’s legacy in action, inspiring hope; we cut back to Rey taking the Skywalker name and effectively concluding her and Luke’s arc - great stuff! However, I feel like cutting away to Broom Boy stuff for 30 seconds effectively in the middle of a conversation (“who are you?” / “Rey Skywalker”), doesn’t quite work and feels a bit choppy. We’re expecting an answer from Rey, and instead we cut away to a totally different scene which we’ve never seen before (unlike in your previous version, where we are introduced to the Broom Boy scene in much more of a natural break).

Again, sorry for the lack of solutions!

Haha! Well I will say that I tried several other places For the broom boy stuff to go, but there really wasn’t a more natural fit that met both of your criteria lol. But I’ll take another look. 😃

Between the two options already presented, which feels better as a viewer?

Spottyfriend said:

Lifeincontext said:

Here’s a new version of the ending. Based on some feedback, I tried to find an effective new arrangement of the Tatooine/Broom Boy clips. I found a moment I thought was interesting. Let me know what you guys think!

https://vimeo.com/418754884
PW: fanedit

This is great!

Really sorry to be THAT guy (!), but I’m still not entirely sure the initial Broom Boy scene placement fully works pacing-wise. It’s definitely a very cool idea: while Rey pauses, considering her place in the galaxy and Luke’s legacy, this is then mirrored by seeing Luke’s legacy in action, inspiring hope; we cut back to Rey taking the Skywalker name and effectively concluding her and Luke’s arc - great stuff! However, I feel like cutting away to Broom Boy stuff for 30 seconds effectively in the middle of a conversation (“who are you?” / “Rey Skywalker”), doesn’t quite work and feels a bit choppy. We’re expecting an answer from Rey, and instead we cut away to a totally different scene which we’ve never seen before (unlike in your previous version, where we are introduced to the Broom Boy scene in much more of a natural break).

Again, sorry for the lack of solutions!

Haha! Well I will say that I tried several other places For the broom boy stuff to go, but there really wasn’t a more natural fit that met both of your criteria lol. But I’ll take another look. 😃

idir_hh said:

I really like the Falcon/Broom boy combo at the end. Could it be implied that Kylo has taken a kind of pilgrimage to the ruins of the Deathstar, where his grandfather was redeemed? I think some slow wide shots of the ruins (could use some wide shots from the Rey climbing sequence) would help fix the abruptness and better establish the setting.

So I decided to redo this sequence a bit and go the other direction, like you’re pointing to. When all else fails, simple is usually better lol. So I’ve basically eliminated all visions, including Leia calling to him.

It now cuts directly from Rey cutting Kylo off to the Death Star. After the establishing shots, we get one vision of Han falling, and then he says, “Hey, kid.”

I really tried to add the compassion moments, but there really isn’t enough to make it convincing without looking choppy, in my opinion.

Is this transition too abrupt? Do we need to see the reason Kylo decides to go to the Death Star?

NeverarGreat said:

That was surprisingly moving! Even though the Falcon liftoff to hyperspace over Canto Bight doesn’t make too much logical sense, it definitely feels compelling. In this version, is Canto Bight on Tatooine? Because if that were set up earlier, it would potentially be really cool. Of course, it would require changing the time of day in the Broom Boy scene.

Haha well we don’t see Canto Bight earlier. In my mind, this happens on the dark side of Tatooine lol.

Here’s a new version of the ending. Based on some feedback, I tried to find an effective new arrangement of the Tatooine/Broom Boy clips. I found a moment I thought was interesting. Let me know what you guys think!

https://vimeo.com/418754884
PW: fanedit

Spottyfriend said:

Lifeincontext said:

Ending V2

https://vimeo.com/419869547
PW: fanedit

See above post for a play-by-play.

Also, parts of it are still very rough. Apologies.

I’m watching this as someone who knows nothing about editing, but it feels a bit odd, right the end, for the Falcon to appear to go into hyperspace in the Tatooine shot with the twin suns, and then appear to do so again when broom boy is looking up. Have we jumped slightly back in time at the beginning of broom boy’s last scene? Or is the Falcon jumping twice for some reason? Like I say, I’m just a viewer not a creator, but it feels a little odd for me.

I really appreciate you doing this though! It’s a fantastic idea!

That’s definitely something I realized too lol. The end uses the great work of popasketti and snooker for the Falcon stuff, so I just used the shot as is. However… if anyone wants to try a normal Falcon shot with no hyperspace at the end, I’d love to see it.

idir_hh said:

If you’re to use visions during the helmet scene, I would go for visions of Luke, Ben, Leia and Rey showing Ben compassion, it demonstrates that deep down all he wants is to be loved, setting up his convo with Han.
As for the Deathstar scene I think the establishing shots are fine, the shots are a little stuttery though but as you said it’s a rough mockup. I would however shy away from using anything from the Vader Fan-film as it brakes the flow and tone of the scene, I’d cut from the inner establishing shots to Ben standing on the edge right before the Han convo.

I really love those ideas for the vision. I think the tough part is that it’s set up just a few minutes before this (at Crait) that Luke would haunt him. So I do feel like there needs to be some of that in there. That being said, though, I do like the idea of adding those moments of kindness. I’ll see what I can muster up.

I hear you on FOD. If it’s not working, then it’s the first thing to go. I have tried the transition from inner establishing shots to Ben on the edge, but it felt pretty abrupt. I’ll give it another look though.

idir_hh said:

I really dig everything on Tatooine. The ending is gold.
You’re on the right track with the establishing shots, they just need a little smoothing out.
Personally I would refrain for using any visions or flashbacks, it kinda feels like a greatest hits sequence, but that’s just me.

Haha thanks! I like it too.

I’d love any feedback you have on the establishing shots. It’s hard to find the right moments to hit while also making sure they’re long enough to really register with the viewer.

So as far as the visions/flashbacks…I moved the FOD thing to the Death Star because it felt too early where it was before. Which vision stuff seemed the weirdest to you? The stuff right before Leia calls Ben’s name?

JakeRyan17 said:

One way to better set up the redemption arc would be use more TROS scenes, like opening with Kylo travelling to Exegol, and threading more of the Palpatine plot through the film. Instead of Kef Bir, this is where Snoke’s throne room fight could structurally be, since both battles kind of achieve the same thing. You could possibly cut Rey out of the Crait sequence, and suggest she stole Kylo’s TIE from Snoke’s Star Destroyer and took it to Ahch-To just after Luke died.

I’d have to look closer to see if that would work, but it would allow the throne room fight to be the end of the second act, and the fight on Exegol to be the end of the third act.

Good thoughts. I definitely think putting in Kylo’s journey to Exegol might be good. But I really don’t want to put in Palpatine for various reasons. The biggest is that it makes the film too packed for the run time. But also, it’s one of my goals to keep the story closer to something that doesn’t retcon much from the original films.

Spent the past year adapting the MCU as a TV show. Tried to approach it like a writer/show runner as far as plotting goes. Drafts are up for 4 seasons of The Avengers. Very much open to feedback. Always trying to make it better!

Http://sites.google.com/view/avengersfanseries

Ending V2

https://vimeo.com/419869547
PW: fanedit

See above post for a play-by-play.

Also, parts of it are still very rough. Apologies.