I've updated the font, same link as above. How does it look now? I've fixed the height of the Johnston glyphs, slimmed down the "g" and tweaked the "u" a bit.
thxita said:
Leo, are we doing a summer screening then? ;)
You're doing winter, in Russia, if you don't shut your trap! ;)
Laserschwert said:
Very nice! Thanks!
Although I don't think it was necessary to fix the "y", as it was correct in "Johnston" (I just forgot to list it in my post).
I used the Johnston "y", and customized it a bit.
I noticed a few minor problems with the font:
The vertical stroke of the Johnston "J" is shorter than those of Gill Sans (I think all Johnston capitals are "shorter" than the Gill Sans verticals, including "b" and "d"). If "J" is the only capital you've used from Johnston, that's the only one that needs to be fixed.
The "t" still doesn't look right to me. I think the crossbar still has to be even shorter on the right side.
Do you think we should make the "g" narrower in the font? If you do, make sure to make the vertical strokes fatter again after scaling the letter down.
I will fix all of these. As for substitutions, I used your post 51 above as reference.
Apart from these I think this will work wonderfully!
I think so too. It's a custom job, and it's all work that needs only to be done once, that's what I like about it.
BTW, since Johnston/Gill are basically "the font of Britain", might it be safe to assume that the subtitles for the international versions of SW were made in the UK?
It's a possibility.
Ok, I joined Gill & Johnston and created "Gill Johnston Custom"
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3Wlp4clLq4dY2lKX0poZ0FIek0/edit
I fixed the "J" and "y" myself.
It probably still needs fixing, but I think it's a step in the right direction.
http://creativeandchaos.com/2012/04/04/typography-before-computers/
http://www.graphic-design.com/Type/history/
http://bellsouthpwp2.net/b/c/bcarberry/tp.html
http://commfaculty.fullerton.edu/woverbeck/dtr6.htm
Short answer: by hand, photographing each gliph one at a time.
Yeah, I found a program called FontForge. Let's see now. *cracks knuckles*
Yeah, I think you nailed it. The two typefaces are closely related anyway. It's not like we're mixing Verdana with Comic Sans.
Now what I wanna do is actually combine Gill and Johnston to create a customized typeface that can be used in the future if the need arises.
I'm looking at every Sans-serif there is... My eyes are going "Total Recall"...
What about "News Gothic No. 2 "?
I'm currently scouring font sites in order to find the perfect match. I had previously considered Gill Sans, but it's not close enough for me.
I can't seem to match the font to anything I've found so far. Here are screen grabs for the whole scene.
http://s195.photobucket.com/user/luckydog21/slideshow/Greedo
Frutiger and its derivatives looked like a good match, but the "g" doesn't look the same.
Does anyone have any idea on what it could be?
Rogue Squadron got me into Star Wars. Enough said.
thxita said:
By the way, Leo you would go crazy if I told you that the cinema version had also a rather different sound mix that I had never heard before...
I've been meaning to ask: was it mono or stereo?
TV's Frink said:
So tempted to post the lol bunny pic...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHTUDwc1fd8&feature=youtu.be&t=11s
Yes, it's the 1991 vhs.
Regarding the Greedo font, for everybody else that won't know what we're talking about: yesterday's screening of "Star Wars" revealed a different font for the Greedo subtitles in the italian version of the movie. Not only that, but the original translation is yet another one I hadn't yet encountered. I'll post a screengrab right away. I think it's some sort of Frutiger.
Here's where I realized I needed to change the font slightly:
Top one is the one I used, News Gothic, bottom one is the font for the first part of the credits, News Gothic BT.
Would you suggest I change the first part and just use News Gothic for everything? Only in the first section I'd use it bolded.
The color thing is an error, I'll correct it next time I render it. The font change is intentional, I overlayed text layers in photoshop over that PNG, and I saw that plain old News Gothic seemed to fit better than News Gothic BT. Looks good to me. Maybe I'll post the photoshop file to illustrate what I mean.
Here's the comparison
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3Wlp4clLq4dbmtITExHQlpZTmM/edit
Here's the end credits in HD
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3Wlp4clLq4dU0RpYTdfR3dnMjQ/edit
comparison video coming up shortly
If I'm not mistaken, according to the Church, the only life in the whole universe is on planet Earth. So he's talking to that invisible speck lost in a sea of stars.
rofl
He means no one in their right mind would sit though six movies with a notepad writing down each time the word "the" is said. He obviously got the data by using a text editor's search function on transcripts of the films.
So, little update. I cannot go the screening. But thxita will be there, so at least one of us is going.
In the meanwhile, here's the end credits, the only thing missing is the still title card at the end with the dubbing credits. [Click for a bigger version]
