Here are the samples.
To me the VHS sounds more… full? But it could just be that the levels are a bit higher on it.
http://twistygadget.com/ff/Fatal_Fury_Movie_Dub_Sync_DVD_Sample.wav
http://twistygadget.com/ff/Fatal_Fury_Movie_Dub_Sync_VHS_Sample.wav
Is it possible that the 2014 DVD might have better audio? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L1WJJXU/ref=pd_sbs_74_t_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=93E3CQW3HV5RAM71EZW9
No, it’s encoded at 192kbps as well, and would not be surprised if the audio was pulled from the old DVD release.
Hey guys,
The copy of the VHS I found was brand new and it seems like the hi-fi track is in good condition. I made a capture of it using my time base correcting VCR/Blackmagic. I could technically post the audio if someone wants to review it?
The movie in question is Fatal Fury the Motion Picture.
Just FYI, there is a mastering issue where in the left channel there’s a pulse in the left channel for some reason, but otherwise the stereo mix seems to have some really nice directionality. The mastering issue is in both the VHS and DVD, so it had to happen at the mixing stage.
Hey there guys,
I’m working on a restoration where the original master tape is unavailable.
What exists for the audio of this movie are two things: A VHS release from 1999, and a similar DVD release a few years later that has the audio encoded at 192kbps. (Sadly for me, no Laserdisc exists.) Either can be easily synced to the new video source (which is pristine) and be presented uncompressed.
Both VHS and DVD were mastered from the exact same source, and honestly, sound really good. Since I’m more of a videophile than an audiophile, my question is this; which is technically better? 192 is average but lowish in bitrate in my opinion, but in theory does that still trump an uncompressed analogue VHS recording of the movie?
togedusaid:
Here are some screenshots as well. Not done with color and grain or spec removal, but a good approximation of what the final will look close to.
This looks really good! I'm guessing you added some faux grain? What is your upscaling processing?
I have this laserdisc. I plan to capture it and post it somewhere when I have the chance.
Hi there,
I’ve been trying to figure out where to ask about this, since finding information about this dub has been a needle in a haystack. I figured this forum might know or might know where to send me to ask!
A long time ago, on DIVX’s level 5 website – if people remember that – an alternate dub of Sherlock Hound appeared which had completely different voices from the rest of the series. The episode that leaked on there was the production order episode #1: A Small Client. I have this. It unfortunately has no opening or closing credits whatsoever.
What I do know is that the version of the episode that showed up on Level5 had a 1982 copyright. Here’s the title screen:
http://i.imgur.com/5stWOK2.png
I’ve been trying to figure out where this episode came from, and my best guess is this:
In 1983 Sherlock Hound aired on HBO very briefly: http://www.theguidearchive.com/info.php?ID=1240
At the time, as far as I know, only about 6 episodes had been completed. Production on the show had been halted in 1981 when there were issues with the Conan Doyle estate. It was around 1984 or 1985 when the show came back.
What I’m trying to figure out is if anyone happens to have old VHS recordings of Sherlock Hound from HBO anywhere, and if they do, if we could see if the dub matches this older-sounding dub OR the more popular one that appears everywhere else. Further, figuring out just how many eps appeared on HBO would be great as well.
If I’m on the wrong track and people have any kind of actual information on the earlier dub IN GENERAL that would be amazing too.
What’s interesting about this dub is that it sounds more authentically British than the one which ultimately came out. I’m keen to hear more of it, if it exists!
That seems even worse, so my original question still stands. :(
I've been intending to do this preservation for a while; I found this on laserdisk on Ebay Australia, and I had trouble getting it sent here. It was, unfortunately, lost in transit. :( I've been searching for someone else with this laserdisk. I have the other laserdisk that exists (The Justice Ducks one), but unfortunately this one never happened.
I have the VHS, though, and can do a capture of it still. I've almost given up hope finding the Laserdisk again.
Does someone around here happen to have a good capture of the SciFi version? I've been waiting for it to re-air, but I don't think they show it anymore? I purchased the German Ultimated Edition, but obviously it's sped up to 25fps and is a bit blurry.
On some VHS tape around here I have a sci-fi exclusive commercial which dealt with the Sci Fi Fan Club or something. It was around the time the movie was coming out, and they were actually pushing it hard... during the 1980s Transformers. I'll try to dig it up, though if it happens to be on the current release somewhere already, let me know. I haven't gone through this whole thing yet obviously.
Yes... the 2 files are from a single airing. And that single airing was edited into one complete movie. The guy who recorded it just missed the middle part and started to record the second movie late.
There's further reason to believe the scene where Tsurusennin manacing Pilaf was dubbed as linking footage between Legend of Shenlong/Curse of the Blood Rubies and Mystical Adventure.
There's a Latin American (I think) dub based upon Harmony Gold's dub (including leftover Harmony Gold foley and everything) that is almost identical to what exists of the Harmony Gold stuff. The scene with Pilaf and gang is in there, and the LA dub talks about Gurumes' defeat... something which isn't in the original (obviously). There is a complete copy of this LA dub that exists, along with the two above files.
From that, we know which scenes were cut completely and which are missing from the TV broadcast. The scene with Pilaf is one of those, along with a short scene of Bulma as well as the very very beginning of Legend of Shenlong.
I have the two files that exist. Hopefully what I'm trying to find is someone who lived around Philadelphia who may have recorded this and still has it or the other episodes. :)
Bkev; While that's not what I'm looking for at all, if you could check that when you go home that would be awesome. :)
The rip that's floating around, which is Movie 1 + 3, comes from I think a Betamax. It's actually all one movie... The middle part of the movie is missing (the introduction with Pilaf and Crane Master from Movie 3). That is the biggest missing part, though there's more missing to it later on.
bkev; Yeah, that version is apparently good, but they've been posting in that thread too. They're missing the very beginning and the very first part of the 3rd movie as mentioned...
Molly: ARM?
I'm assuming the rip you guys have is similar to the above one? This is the one I have, and I think the only one floating around.
I'm a little confused at the thread progression; Did those caps used in the Primative Screwhead fan-cut ever surface anywhere? I've been hoping SciFi would re-air it so I could DVR it, but this has yet to happen... or at least I kept missing it. :(
Hi there,
So a bunch of people over at Daizenshuu EX are trying to find materials for this dub to send back to Harmony Gold. For those not in the know, before Funimation dubbed the original Dragonball in 1996 Harmony Gold attempted to do a dub in 1989 or 90.
All the names were changed to things like Zero and Leena instead of Goku and Bulma. It aired maybe once or twice on a couple stations in the US. Philly 57 is the only confirmed airing: http://twistygadget.com/stuff/db/feature.png
One incomplete tape of this dub has surfaced. It is a compilation movie, and it is missing a bunch of audio. There are also around 5 TV episodes that aired which have never surfaced anywhere.
A big problem with the Daizenshuu EX people is they aren’t branching out elsewhere looking for materials. I’ve researched this dub extensively in my spare time, and right now I’m looking for anything new that I can find.
I know this place is a big nexus of awesome and people here collect old VHS tapes and other things. I’m hoping someone here might have recordings of this, or may know someone to ask about it in general. Even names of old cartoon collectors to inquire with would be extremely helpful… or a point in the right direction. 😃
Thanks for your time! Here are a couple clips of what has surfaced… someone posted them over there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeOnRAPjuPM
MD Geist:
That's very helpful! Went ahead and ordered it. Does the original ending segment animation exist there as well? Or does that count as a 'Megazone' segment?
With the advent of Street FIghter IV's release I was looking around for this and, I, too, have no luck. I even tried emailing drgonzo369 about a week ago with no response. Does it still exist anywhere?
There's actually an unedited dub of this which airs on Animax in english speaking countries with a completely different voice cast.
I believe at least 5 volumes of this were released on DVD as 'Cardcaptors' in Austrailia. I have the first DVD with the real first episode in English (instead of episode 9 (?) or the "flashback" version they aired in the US.) somewhere.
Hey gang. I’ve been wanting to work on a Transformers the Movie supplemental disk for quite a while. While the Sony disk they just put out was pretty damn awesome, it was lacking a couple things due to rights or other issues.
Things I would like to include:
-Transformers the Movie promotional trailer restored with the actual audio. This trailer is about 4 minutes long and was used to sell the movie to outside investors. It initially floated around on the internet in a really crappy (160xsomething?) size back in the mid '90s. A big chunk of it is video which did not appear in the actual movie, including old colors for Ultra Magnus and other stuff. The video for this appeared on the recent DVD, but the audio was not present for some reason. It was originally narrated by Vince Dicola with a bunch of music and stuff. Instead there was just a bunch of commentary over it. More on this later.
-Scramble City OAV with Japanese Audio + Subtitles. Maybe even mux the fandub in. The official US DVD has probably the best quality version of the video for this, but it has absolutely no audio. All of the audio is replaced with commentary, and there are no subtitles. I have sourced another version of this with decent subtitles and audio.
-Transformers the Movie Theatrical Trailer, encoded as anamorphic instead of with black bars. This is on the official release, though it’s not anamorphic. Oddly enough most of the audio for this was also used on the promotional trailer, and the audio is actually on this one. This should be cake to do.
-The UK scrolling credits opening to the movie, as well as the ending Vince Dicola narration. Currently have no source for this.
-The Touch Music Video by Stan Bush. Currently have no source for this.
-The Japanese Transformers 2010 Intro, which includes movie footage and other original stuff. I have a good copy of this somewhere, but I don’t know where.
-The 5 Part TV version bumpers with the stop motion Powermaster Optimus Prime and Peter Cullen voiceover. No source currently.
-The interview clips on the DVD website which aren’t on the DVD itself.
-Any trailers that are floating around missing from the DVD set. I’ve also toyed with the idea of recreating the longest ones with the DVD footage.
-The really cool intro to the really bad Japanese PS2 game which has the TFTM prime fight recreated in CG.
So far, I’ve done the most work on the promotional trailer:
http://rapidshare.com/files/42697854/tftm-promotional-trailer01.avi.html
This is my currently unfinished work in restoring it. I’ve had to go in and edit some of the footage at the very end, looping some of it, since the audio was longer than the actual video. The audio is sourced from the best copy of this video I could find; I believe it’s from a Japanese Laserdisk. Pretty much every other copy of this video I’ve seen has Japanese titles added to it. In addition, there is some missing audio at the beginning with the scrolling grey text. Every other copy I’ve found starts at the ‘TRANSFORMERS: THE MOVIE’ part. The missing narration exists on the front of the ‘Theatrical Trailer’ I mention above, however it is backed by some really booming music which doesn’t fit the tone of the trailer. I do not have the technical skill as an audio editor to remove this music, so it is one of the areas where I really need help. In addition, I would like to have someone fluent in Japanese to read over the Japanese titling on the old version of this. If it’s unique, we could add it back in in English via a subtitle track.
The above clip requires the avc/x264 codec, or VLC should chomp right through no matter what…
This is my first ‘project thread’, and I’ve read through the rules and I believe I’m on the right side of everything. I initially wanted to see about fixing the color issues (like Pink Hot Rod) in the 16x9 version of the Sony disk, but I feel that wouldn’t be that different from the released disk. My other thought was to try to do a multilingual disk. Currently I have the movie in English, Cantonese, and Mandarin. I’ve been looking for it in Japanese, but I believe the DVD is out of print. A friend of mine did a complete translation of the Japanese movie though, with the dialogue differences, but, again, this is a little too much like a custom disk.
