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#487355
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Return of the Jedi - The Spence Final Cut (Released)
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dark_jedi said:

Kurt said:

I just don´t like when the OT get´s "prequelized".

They don´t deserve it  :-)

Damn, I love that line, I might steel it for my signature.

 

 Feel free to do so :-)

BTW looking forward to watch your Episode IV V3 GOUT version

(sorry for being off topic) couldn´t find the download links :-/ could you pls help me out ?

 

SpenceEdit said:

haha yeah thanks for listening to the commentary. There's a lot of little cuts that I point out, and it also gives you a little bit of an idea of why I did some of the things I did. My whole goal was always to be able to back up my choices, even if not everyone agrees with them.

 

Agreed 100%

 

I really dig fanedit commentaries.

Adwayn´s info text is cool as well.

Your voice is very suitable for doin these, keep em coming !

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#487347
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Return of the Jedi - The Spence Final Cut (Released)
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SpenceEdit said:

Thank you for your review.

However, may I pose a question? Do you think your opinion on my changes was heavily, heavily influenced by a hatred of the prequels? Because that what it seems like to me.  It's just interesting to get that point of view, as  I edited from the angle of someone that enjoys the prequels.

 

Yes, I felt that it was your intention to somehow connect ROTJ with the prequels.

That´s understandable & respectable.

But there´s no need. Lucas didn´t care very much the other way around so why should someone make up for his mistakes ?

 

Regardless of my dislike of the PT the music just feels too cute (&overpowering at the same time, if that makes any sense) and out of place in that particular sequence.

 

And I´m not a die hard OT purist fan.

I really love Adywan´s Revisited (though Purist version is the better one) and I´m very openminded when it comes to "modify" ROTJ.

 

Bottom line:

I just don´t like when the OT get´s "prequelized".

They don´t deserve it  :-)

 

 

EDIT

just listening to the commentary.

It´s fun !

Didn´t recognize the cutting when Han looks at the Falcon before heading for Endor.

Very cool decision to cut the dialogue there.

*best cuts are always those you don´t recognize*

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#487332
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SW EP 1: Shadow of the Sith - by L8wrtr (Released)
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This one sounds interesting.

 

But one question:

 

Why hasn´t a single faneditor cut out C3PO entirely ?

 

It IS doable.

 

Same goes for AOTC.

Only problem is the scene with Anakin talking to him after their arrival on Tatooine

and 3PO introducing them to the Lars family.

This could be fixed with a re-dub.

Then he would be just another protocol droid.

Or (hard to do, i know) erase him out of ceratin shots while cutting all the others entirely.

In Episode 3 he enters the saga as Padme´s new & shiny protocol droid.

Would make much more sense for a queen owning a protocol droid than for a single-mom slave.

 

 

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#487318
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Return of the Jedi - The Spence Final Cut (Released)
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Just watched this cut

 

GOOD

.) like the idea that Dagobah scenes are shown earlier

.)Luke sensing his friends are in danger, execution not perfect but very good idea

.)cutting out Leia delivering Chewie, the alien voice is irritating and repetitive

.)cutting out Boba Fett, I still like him, but his death scene is awful, I didn´t miss him

.)Han & Lando conversation feels more natural now

.)speeder bike music adds to the scene

.)cutting out Wicket meets Leia Organa

.)cutting much Ewok stuff in general

.)C-3PO telling the story, very good editing

.)no Tarzan yell, it´s really cool that you just hear the knocking before they enter th AT-ST, Adywan should keep this cut in mind for his Revisited, not just muting the yell but cutting this shot entirely

.)duel taking place on Star Destroyer

.)adding Death Star to Emperor shots, best addition, looks awesome

.)celebration, idea very good, music is much better than in all editions before, maybe some shots of Ewok celebration would have been nice, but it might be impossible to create a better celebration sequence than you did with the accessable material

.)final shot, PERFECT way to end ROTJ

 

BAD

.)Rancor scene being cut, it´s classic, and Luke just being "arrested" doesn´t work well - feels too jumpy

.)Jabba sequence is cut too short, I think with the Rancor scene would´ve helped

.)I like Salacious Crumb, I´d have kept one laugh :-)

.)too much Han Solo cut

.)Duel of the Fates: I´d prefer the lightsaber battle without music or something different.

Though it´s undeniably a great piece of film music DUEL OF THE FATES been used way too often.

.)Cutting Luke´s escape with shuttle, it could have worked if you´d show the attack on the SD after Vader´s death, then Luke flying out, then the crashing A Wing & destruction of SD

 

UGLY

.) transition from Yoda´s death to Jabba Palace establishing shot waaay too abrupt

.)Anakins theme & Vader´s death

this one is really awful and almost disqualifies this cut alltogether.

 

Reasons:

.)First music´s way too loud in the mix

.)I could accept if you´d let it play for a shorter amount of time, but it DESTROYS the tone of the scene when playing over the ENTIRE sequence

.)OST is TONS better, esopecially the harp playing ´Vader´s theme

.)it reminds me of The Phantom Menace

 

I love John Williams music but god, this is one "sappy" tune

it´s too kitschy, even for Sci-Fi-Fantasy Space Operas

 

I´ve listened to your commentary as well and see your point but no, No, NO.

 

Great effort nevertheless, still prefer the original cut over your´s.

But turning ROTJ into an excellent movie is quite a challenge per se.

Not as much as trying to solve the PT´s problems though. :-p

(Sorry, this is practically impossible even for Adywan, I´m afraid)