Kurgan

Matticon said:

Kurgan said:

Any chance this will be released in time for the 30th anniversary on May 21st?

 We take a Duke Nukem Forever Philosophy on this particular question.

Its done... when its done. ;)

Matticon.

Yeah, but DNF was delayed for ten years and then the entire team was fired and the project canned.

Way to fill us all with hope with that comparison!

Anyway, to all the smart alecks out there... let me rephrase it and see if it meets with your exacting standards:

Hey adywan (in all seriousness), do you think "when it's done" will be in the next two months?

;)

Next to somebody re-creating the IMAX Cut of AOTC in an edit, hearing the original version of ROTJ with the six channel 70mm mix would be the coolest star wars thing ever (apart from seeing the originals restored in theaters, of course).

Any chance this will be released in time for the 30th anniversary on May 21st?

Wow, BD media is down to $6 per disc (and $67 for a burner)... still!

I won't send you a dime or a blank disc, but I'd like to see it. ;)

Good luck

I really want to hear the 70mm mixes for all three movies synced with the originals someday, so anything that gets me closer to that dream is okay by me!

I thought the thing falling from Cloud City was a workman's tool box left over from maintenance. ;)

Now there's a project, if someone wants to synch 'em to the PAL pan 'n' scan of the 1997 VHS tapes...

My thoughts on the recordings:

Pretty darned good! Very entertaining... it's simply fun to listen to all three, especially if you know the movies (and even if you don't). A few times though the narrator will talk over a line or piece of a line (since the movie audio dims slightly while they talk to describe the scene or introduce who is speaking). The fact that it's the PAL version means it's faster paced and it's a bit obvious at times, but still easy to follow for someone who is used to NTSC. I dare say though that I enjoyed listening to these more than the official Radio Dramas!

It's painfully obvious that this is the 1997 SE and at times the narrator even points out stuff that is only in the SE like the big dark shadows under the skiffs in ROTJ.

There were only a few glitches, and the narrators seem to know the official names of everything. For example in ANH they refer to the setting "twin moons" of Tatooine (scene with Luke outside). Certain fans will be happy to know they pronounce "Aaat aats" instead of saying "Aye Tee Aye tee." And they refer to the ROTJ walkers as "spindly aat aats" (AT-STs).

The sound quality is great, although occasionally there will be a little "pop" sound or something that sounds like an electronic glitch.

In ESB a few lines are missing. Han saying "you could use a good kiss!" isn't there for example.

The narration ends at the credits, and the credits music is chopped and abbreviated in all three films. For ANH they introduce the 20th Century fox stuff with the fanfare, the Lucasfilm logo, etc. ESB & ROTJ begin at "A long time ago..." and go from there (it would sound the same of course).

Now again, somewhere out there, are NTSC VHS tapes with the American audio description soundtracks on 'em and the 1995/1992 THX versions to boot!

Well said!

Cool! Is there a full list of differences between version 1 and version 2 of Reformatted?

Almost done listening to the trilogy and I'm going to post a few comments when I'm all done. ;)

I'm curious about the prequels... since there are so many action sequences, especially the split final battle in Episode I, I wonder how the narrators handle it and if it improves things any.

Ah yes, and I see they are UK, so I'm guessing they're 5% faster than the US version?

As I listen to ANH, it appears this is the Special Edition (and you hear Greedo miss, even though the narrator makes no mention and just says Han shoots, ha!).

So somewhere out there, there is an audio version of the 1992/95 version. Still, this is awesome!

MTFBWY

Cool.... once they get on RS, MU or torr3ntz, I'll happily grab 'em. What will they be named? (since there are the radio dramas and audio books to confuse matters)

They just sent me an email back and said I actually COULD get the tape(s) via Interlibrary loan, I'd just need to register with my local library for the blind (which might not work if I'm not actually blind myself). There's no charge for ILL of course.

Did you upload them? In any case, whoever is responsible deserves a huge "thank you"!

Sounds great Kevinicius, when is the new SL DVD going up?

Found this (after I left a message on their machine, oh well):

DVS 22524 Star Wars, Episode IV: A New Hope
Princess Leia is held hostage by the evil imperial forces. Luke

Skywalker and the dashing Captain Han Solo team up with R2-D2 and C-3PO to rescue the princess and restore justice in the Empire. FoxVideo. Rated PG.

To Order Call
1-800-742-7691


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Descriptive Video Collection
2009 DVS Catalog
Nebraska Library Commission
Talking Book and Braille Service
1200 N Street, Suite 120
Lincoln, NE 68508-2023
NEBRASKA LIBRARY COMMISSION
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NEBRASKA LIBRARY COMMISSION
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) & Collection Information

 

What Is Descriptive Video?
A descriptive video is a regular home video cassette or disc that has
been formatted to include an additional audio track. On this additional audio track, a narrator describes the visual elements of the program - the action, characters,locations, costumes and sets - without interfering with the program's dialogue or sound effects. No special feature or device is needed to hear this audio description. All you need is a standard VHS video cassette recorder (VCR) or DVD player and a television.

Many of the videos in the Nebraska Descriptive Video Collection are
great blockbuster movies, popular Public Broadcasting Service television programs, and select Turner Classic Movies purchased from the Descriptive Video Service® (DVS®), a non-profit organization begun in 1990 by the WGBH Educational Foundation, a producer of public television programs. All DVS® home videos are also closed-captioned for people who are deaf and hard-of-hearing.

Other videos in the Nebraska Descriptive Video Collection are network
and cable television programs produced with audio description and donated by Narrative Television Network (NTN) a television network founded in 1988 with the mission to make television "programs accessible to visually impaired people."

Major funding for Descriptive Video Service® and Narrative Television
Network is provided by the United States Department of Education. The Nebraska Descriptive Video Collection also includes videos purchased from AudioVision Canada and TheatreVision.
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Loan Policy

Borrowers must be registered, active users of the Nebraska Library Commission Talking Book and Braille Service. Descriptive video service is designed to benefit individuals who are blind or visually impaired. Individuals who are physically disabled or learning
disabled are advised that they would probably not benefit from
descriptive video service. Residents of states other than Nebraska are not eligible. Those under 18 may borrow videos with a parent's or guardian's signed permission. The library will not provide, nor will it loan, VCRs or TVs.

All borrowers must complete, sign, and return the Descriptive Video Borrower Registration Form.

If a video is lost or damaged, the Nebraska Library Commission will
invoice the borrower for the cost of replacement. Another video will not be loaned to the borrower until the invoice is paid.

Each borrower may borrow only one title at a time per loan period.

Borrowers may not check out another title until the title currently checked out is received and checked in by the library.

Borrowers may keep a video request list on file at the library. The
first available video from the list will be sent automatically each time a borrower returns a video. Video titles may not be reserved for specific dates. The loan period is 14 days. There will be no renewals


Descriptive Video Collection
2009 DVS Catalog
Nebraska Library Commission
Talking Book and Braille Service
1200 N Street, Suite 120
Lincoln, NE 68508-2023

So Nebraska folks, we are counting on you!

Yeah, Droids is pre-ANH.

I guess with any of these stories you can realize what they were ORIGINALLY INTENDED to be... that is, where they took place in the saga.

The Ewok movies as I understand it, were supposed to be post-ROTJ. Saying that they took place BEFORE ROTJ is just retroactive continuity.

The prequels are set before the OT, so you theoretically could watch them first. The bad continuity aside, though, they are more like "flashbacks" so you could justify watching them after.

Personally I think the viewing experience is worse if you see the PT first (EVEN IF you've seen the OT a million trillion times).

There is definatly a different effect if you watch 1-3 THEN 4-6, than the other way around (the traditional order).

I just don't buy into the whole "you HAVE to see it this way."

Retcons keep changing things, so the order changes (Ewok movies) or things didn't happen (Droids). But who cares about that? As far as Lucas is concerned, the Holiday Special never happened (but still, he's let the EU folks cannibalize parts of it all the same).

The whole controversy over the "order" I think stems mostly from people wanting to be "true to the vision" of Mr. Lucas. The trouble is that "vision" keeps changing. So do we stay true to what Lucas "originally intended" in 1977? 1985? 1994? 2001? 2008? etc.

From what I've seen kids these days DO prefer the prequels, but they grow out of them fast, and if they do give the OT a chance they like it better (or they give up on star wars completely).

What I think most classic fans are talking about is not that "oh those wipper snappers, the fact that they were kids when the prequels came out means they don't know anything but we're infallible" but that you have "only one chance" to see Star Wars for the first time, and to make it special, please watch it the traditional way (production order). After that, do whatever you want. Now of course these "kids who grew up with the prequels" (many of whom don't think Star Wars is that cool anyway, I've found) can't do the whole "Star Wars virgin marathon" thing anyway, and the fact that they'd want to .... blah blah blah

You've heard all this before. ;)

Well, SADLY I have failed. I tried all the libraries I could find in Eastern, IA, and none of them have it.

Sure, their CATALOGS SAY they have the "audio described edition" for "the visually impaired" however when I pick up the actual ITEM it is clearly just the 1992 THX "FACES" Vhs with closed captionining. I pop it into my VCR and it's identical in every way to the regular edition and there's no identifying stickers or anything anywhere indicating it is the "audio described edition."

I don't think I need any "special equipment" to check this out. For the record I have one of those "TV/VCR combos" that has only a "Mono" speaker output,  however I distinctively remember some years back popping in a Sister Act II VHS in there and realized I had rented the audio described edition by mistake (it had a big prominent DS or DA log on the front, forget which, but it was a blue purple label that either indicated "descriptive services" or "descriptive audio").

Anyway, I still am intrigued by this and really really want to hear the full length english audio track that would normally be put out there.

Has ANYONE recorded it or uploaded it? Please send me a Private message (PM)!

Just finished reading the print edition. Wonderful job, though it looks like you could release a second edition (typos, awkward sentences, etc).

Perhaps a "Special Edition" where you can show us what you "always intended" to have written? ;)

It's definitely a page turner and I've only encountered a few people who refuse to read it because they think it's "paranoid" and "Lucas bashing" (which if they actually read it they'd realize it is far from that).

(Just so everyone knows, I realize how hard it is to find and correct EVERY error in a long work, even professional scholars miss stuff, which is why we have editors, but even they are not perfect! Every book has a few errors. However if you DID make a second edition, there is stuff you could fix, and I just notice this in passing after reading a wonderfully entertaining and informative book)

Help a brother out with the TB or GKar versions of SE (PM)?

The LOOK version of ROTJ SE at least, has a few seconds missing (layer change between Han saying "No wait!... " cut off and then cut to "Use your aggressive feelings boy..."

The only proper order:

The Star Wars Holiday Special

Revenge of the Ewok

Hardware Wars

Colt 45 Commercial starring Billy Dee Williams

Billy Murray Saturday Night Live "Star Wars" song sketch

(repeat until the lyrics are burned into your skull)

Then pass out on the couch.

After waking up, pour fresh bowl of C-3P O's and blue milk, and watch:

Star Wars

Empire Strikes Back

Return of the Jedi

Go away happy.

Now that we have such things as Netflix and RedBox coupons, I can honestly say I won't buy this, nor pay full price to rent it.

Now if it did have the properly restored OOT, I might consider getting it, once it hits the bargain bin... but I probably won't be "blu-ray ready" for the foreseeable future.

If they try to sucker us again with one disc that has new/improved content of the originals, one can always wait until it hits amazon/ebay as a stand alone at a fraction of the overall cost.

Once the movies do hit blu-ray, expect MULTIPLE releases, just like he's done with every other video format they've been on. Mark my words...

And as for a six film, 12 or 13 disc set. Who would want that in one box? Those things are so freaking huge, they don't fit properly in a DVD rack (you need a bookshelf or mantle instead). Anything thicker than the LOTR:EE's (four discs each) won't fit. Sure, you can cram it, but it just makes it that much more inconvenient when you want to take the movies out and watch 'em. What's more important, being able to do that, or to show off the box to your friends? (wait, don't answer that, Star Wars fans!) ;)

Reboot it. If you're going to try to the "consistent story arc" thing, that's the way to do it. And it's not like they'd lose money...