Kurgan

So, anybody up to the task?

This could be done as a quick and dirty "re-creation." It doesn't have to be pan 'n' scan, but that could complete the "Illusion" if desired.

Anyway, I'd love to see it, and I would recommend the IMAX cut to others who were annoyed by Episode II in general.

It'd be far more interesting than re-creating the "theatrical" (non-digital) cut of Episode II (though that would be neat too, just for the sake of preservation). I mean, there were literally three different cuts of Episode II out in theaters during its initial run!

I was a big fan of the "Classic Editions," and seeing this without all the blue tints, is truly great. I still prefer the grit of the "GOUT" until somebody can fix that up, but it's nice to see another in the series besides ANH get some lovin'.

I know I said I was going to stay out of this for awhile, but I couldn't help popping back in for a brief comment (was reading some of the old posts). ;)

I know the red tinted AT-AT cockpit controversy is long over, but I am thinking now PERHAPS the reason it was the way it was, could be explained by the windshield "reflecting" the red turbo laser it was firing in the shot? Sort of like how in ANH:R we have craft and turrets "lightning up" briefly with the glow of the shot fired.

Maybe not a perfect explanation, but if that's all it is, I can see why removing it as a "permanent" red screen made the most sense.

I also never answered somebody's question about a post-credits sequence. Looks like that's not happening in this edit but I believe it was the Darth Editious/ADM hybrid edit of ANH that had a sequence after the credits which was basically a reworked version of the Asteroid field hologram scene from ESB. It was a cool idea for that edit, anyhow.

PS: I'm digging the light blue TIEs in the ESB "Theatrical Reconstruction."

MTFBWY (and happy 30th, ESB!)

Yeah, Yoda is more the crazy old (goblin) man

You can't wear a hoodie grocery shopping

Han Solo, Boba Fett and Vader are "badass" there's "romance" and Yoda talks about spiritual stuff.

Those are usually the answers given. And often it gets thrown in there that they remembered as kids how "shocked" they were that Vader was Luke's father and they "couldn't wait" to see Return of the Jedi in theaters, but when they finally did, they hated the ewoks and were disappointed it wasn't how they imagined. So ESB becomes their favorite.

When you look at their reasons, you can see why they didn't like Star Wars as much: no Boba Fett, the Force wasn't gotten into that deep, and Vader was little more than muscle (Vader does do a lot more fighting and killing in the original than in ESB though, when you think about it)

PS: ESB isn't my favorite of the series, I'm just telling you why I think so many other people put it as their favorite. I think generally speaking it came out at a time when Star Wars was at the height of its popularity, while RotJ was more towards its public decline... and the fact that Lucas rushed through it makes it feel a little less polished.

PPS: I don't get why ESB fans hate Lando and wish he died in ROTJ to "atone" for being forced to turn in Han & Co. (before helping save them). In ROTJ he didn't have much to do for most of the movie until the very end, but I prefer him as a "good guy" in his prime. I guess if you just want him to have more screen time, ESB is better for Lando fans.

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Jeyl said:

Question. Are the blank shells coming out of the blasters going to remain?

Hopefully, I mean he left them in ANH:R, right? To my mind they add a little more realism (because we know they can't possibly be true "laser" weapons", and the EU even has them have ammo and shell casings, etc.)

PS: See you all in about seven months!

If he kills off Lando, who will be the template for the Clone Army?



Oops, I've said too much.

Wow, look at all those wasted complaints. Why are people so gosh darned sensitive about reasonable requests???

Welcome to the internet... !!!

Anyway, thanks for putting it on rapidshare! I don't mind waiting a little longer, I just don't want to pay for what should be free.  ;)

rpvee said:

I know this is a pretty damn daring suggestion that most likely won't get done and probably will meet a lot of criticism, BUT... I am currently watching ESB on Spike and I can't help but wish Adywan would cleverly edit out the infamous Luke and Leia kiss.  Unless he plans to remove the sibling twist in Jedi, it really does just ruin the whole scene because any fan knows just WHAT is going on there.

Here and I was hoping he was going to restore the second "more romantic" kiss from the deleted scenes...

sigh...

Never mind, thanks. ;)

adywan said:

Kurgan said:

Since this will apparently be the last version from Ady with blue-ties, I second the motion for "BT, MU, and RS uploads soon, pretty please." ;)

I will only be uploading it to newsgroups as i stay well clear of torrents. With it only being a DVD-5 the free giganews or other trials should be sufficient to grab this.

Well screw that (sides, how many free trials will it take to get every new fan edit/preservation that comes out?). I'll wait for the free megaupload or rapidshare uploads, much easier than giving them your cc # and having to cancel before the end of the "trial" just for one file.

I hope those aren't on your blacklist too... (and jdownloader makes it really easy) ;)

Nice, I've been wanting to read this for a long time...

I realized it on the way home from the theater after seeing Episode I (didn't see it on opening night, but within a week or so of it coming out, iirc).

Of course I "hoped" against hope that the other movies would be better and as my good friend said "I'm hoping that when viewed in the context of the Prequel trilogy, Episode I won't suck, so I'm reserving judgment."

Episode II was better, but did have a lot of crap in it (which I was forced to admit once I'd seen the IMAX cut which was far superior). Episode III had those awful moments that ruined an otherwise diamond in the rough.

As a trilogy, I realized the Prequels would suck once I finished watching Episode III, there was just no way it could hold together as a series to stand up to anything approaching the OT.

I don't hate the Prequels per se, but I was defiantly let down by them, and not just because my expectations were so high. The continuity lapses with the OT were just inexcusable.

Mainly I agree with the claim that the characters in the OT were more likable, and their onscreen chemistry was better. The story was more upbeat (generally) and hence lent itself to that adventure theme that reminded you of having fun at the cinema. I'm not saying a dark, political feel was wrong for the Prequels, but that "deadly serious" atmosphere mixed with random cartoonish "humor" just didn't work well. The characters were too stiff and there were too many of them to keep us caring about any of them. Too often Lucas dialed down the suspense to give us self-indulgent moments of ships landing and goofy aliens doing slapstick. It's like he just wanted to play in the world and remind us what an artistic genius he is, rather than tell the story and get us to identify with the characters and their struggle.

I think the Star Wars name works against the Prequels. Had they just been a set of sci fi films set in a different universe, I don't think they would have been so harshly criticized, but the catch 22 is that I don't think they would have made as much money, since so many people went to see them out of obligation as fans or in expectation of seeing something approaching the "magic" of the original trilogy.

FYI: I avoided spoilers like the plague for all three prequels. I actually wonder though, if people who "spoiled" themselves silly for the movie beforehand were more disappointed or less than those who avoided them?

He died?

Please seed!

The chances of the BluRay release being what we want are slim to none, so I say bring on a fan reconstruction (and yeah, not just a remix of the 2004 crap).

Okay, so we're all sure now that this is just another GOUT sourced custom DVD like LFNpwnage (only different)... and it's not out anywhere yet.

I still want to see it!

Could you change "Unobtanium" to "Kryptonite" (and color the chunk of metal in the Burke dude's office green)?

Since this will apparently be the last version from Ady with blue-ties, I second the motion for "BT, MU, and RS uploads soon, pretty please." ;)

Now that I'm back... has this thing begun to percolate through the usual places yet?

The only thing that really bugs me about the Pwnage custom is the verticle "shaking effect" that's so apparent in certain shots.

Does the "ED2" or whatever you want to call it, have that?

doubleofive said:

Who in their right mind is going to sell the OOT versions separately, or the OT at all? "Man, I bought this giant Blu-ray set, but I only wanted the prequels! Maybe somebody online wants the crappy old ones..."

;-)

Because not everyone with spare cash is as cool as us, and there are people who know that market exists.

It's the same reason why people sold the Bonus Disc from the 2004 set separately. Why not keep that, since it was never featured in another set?

But, crazy as it may seem, the predicament you describe would be the same for the Prequel lovers as it would the OT lovers. Or people buy something then realize they need the cash and sell them off. If they knew they could get more money that way, they might try it.

Hey, we can hope, right? ;) I've seen pieces of box sets sold separately before.

So how much would you pay for it? If it were a new DVD box set, it would probably run $90 (plus tax/shipping). So I'd guess at least $100 (before tax/shipping) for something like this... assuming it's a confirmed "six movie set."

I understand the whole "voting with your wallet" thing, but you could just put a dent in the sales figure and wait six months to pay half price (for just the originals). I can virtually guarantee that the movies will be available either as two trilogies or as individual movies not far in the future after this release. What other movies out there are ONLY ever released as a full series box set? There are actually very few fans who liked all six movies that much to buy them all on the premium format in one shot.

But in the end... your choice, your money, I guess.

Sadly, because we fans always act like each release is our "only chance" and run out to buy it like chumps, we just keep confirming Lucas marketing's belief that we'll buy anything...

I know it's "hard to resist" and not be one of the kids on your block to own it first, but let's face it. We've got Netflix (and that blockbuster home thing) now, so you can "preview" it before you buy, legally.