While a cool idea, you can just (temporarily) turn off the color on most displays to achieve the same effect.
Edit: Forgot you meant not all scenes.
Wait, the AT-ST's are gone... because of "continuity"?
Then again, it's much more fun to speculate where they came from in the first place. See, when a boy AT-AT and a girl AT-AT love each other very much...
We're not going to see how the big walkers got on the planet. We don't see what happened to all the walkers or how the soldiers get from inside them and then into the base. But this part is intolerable?
Just blow it up! Sheesh. :(
Perhaps some folks on the forum with good voices would like to put together a "fan audio description" of the movies? It wouldn't be a preservation, but it would sure be cool.
So that object falling is going to be the "lost flipper" from ANH:R xvid, correct?
;)
As for Blue Ties reminding one of a blue screen, what a strange thing to say. Do green objects remind you of green screens?
oops
rest in peace
So people without a blu-ray *burner* or an Xbox 360 will still be able to watch this?
By that I mean "besides on the news groups". ;)
You mean the one with the unseen pilots? Or the stuff on the Falcon with the alternate gunners and such?
It was online some time ago...
TV's Frink said:
Jaitea said:
Yeah someone mentions that on that site, but its a nice meshe, the first page of the thread shows it a bit more 'SW'-ish.
J
Kind of looks like a spherical version of the Borg cube from First Contact (especially given its proximity to earth).
Of course, I just posted that to stay on topic while I WIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH.
You mean the Borg sphere from the same movie? ;)
Reminds me of a stripped down Unicron.
Has anyone checked the Blu-Rays to see how the Audio Descriptive tracks sound?
How do they compare with previously released versions? Has anyone ripped those?
PS: I notice the links posted in this thread are all dead. Would somebody repost them?
ray_afraid said: I know it's only a model either way,...
...but the grey ties just look more realistic to my eyes.
Description: The Chance Vought F4U Corsair was widely regarded as the best carrier based fighter of WWII.
I love it that this debate is started up again (here I was going to thank Adywan for going with blue).
I remember wondering if the Death Star TIEs are supposed to be the "norm" or the Death Squadron TIEs are supposed to be the norm. We had no real way of knowing, except that the EU (except for some of the early toys and comics) stuck with gray after the movies.
You could look at it this way:
1) The TIE fighters associated with the Death Star are gray, further emphasizing the cold, gray terror of that station (and yes, Vader's TIE is among them... what you, think he flew over on that thing? He obviously would have come on a shuttle).
2) Once the station is destroyed and Vader begins his rise up the Imperial ranks, he gets the infamous Death Squadron, Executor, etc. together to search for Skywalker. Blue TIEs to go with his blue/purple Super Star Destroyer, and of course the new Interceptors and bombers that were blue as well.
The rest of the TIEs in the galaxy are, of course, caution orange.
Anyway, 2020 is a long ways away, so we don't have to get all bent out of shape over this.
Edit: Teasing, of course (reads the blog and gets caught up on what's been happening over the last few months).
If anyone cares about my vote, Lando should live.
What's the point of killing him off at the very end of the movie? It's like having Godzilla fall on top of Raymond Burr after dying or something (worse, because Lando is only a supporting character in ROTJ).Plenty of rebels die earlier in the film to show that "it's serious" so it wouldn't serve that purpose.
The "logical" place to kill him off would be in the explosion of the Death Star (and that was were the rumored "death scene" was all along), so the ship doesn't fly out, it just is engulfed in the explosion before it gets all the way out (yee hah!). A pretty anticlimactic death scene anyway. Some people hate his character so much (to this day! for what he had to do in ESB) that they would probably consider the "loss" of the Falcon in the explosion to be sadder. Whatever.
That said, anybody can do whatever they like in a fanedit, so if it's you're dream to kill off Calrissian in your edit, go with that...
ben_danger said:
just to interject with the red leader footage debate. you may find that the red leader scene that we see in the special edition is actually a spliced scene. the cut between is when a guy walks across the camera, and it is obvious that the two shots are completely different. something similar could be achieved using the same method.
incidentally i'm having a star wars showing on my birthday later in the month, where the main 3 additional tatooine scenes have been reinserted to the main film. i haven't cleaned them up, but have enstead degraded the rest of the film to look like its an old super8 film. as we are projecting it it should look quite good! i used my old marvel comics to place the scenes.
Brilliant idea! You can also use the screenplay from starwarz.com (or the art of star wars if you have it) to place the scenes.
I'm frankly sick of hearing the "footage won't match the quality" excuse for not attempting it (newsflash: it NEVER will). That's never stopped any other fan edit that incorporates additional footage, heck that's what they did with the first X-Men movie on the official DVD. But if you must blend it, downgrading the rest is a great solution.
Think of this like if Star Wars wasn't the huge franchise it is today, but another B cult film like Battle Beyond the Stars and they're showing it in some late night theater in some college town. A little scratch here and a jump cut there? Big deal. But all the footage is there, people are gobbling popcorn, remarking to the screen and enjoying every minute of it.
Incidentally I remember when the Blu-Rays were coming out there was a youtube video (with the official blu-ray logo thing at the start, but I suppose somebody could have edited that in to make it look authentic) which showed Luke throw (and miss) with his grappling hook, then try a second time and get it, just like people always thought they saw back in the day. But yet I never saw that again in the list of deleted scenes. Was this just a joke on the part of LFL?
That would be fantastic indeed! I'd still like to have a GOUT synched descriptive audio custom or two for casual viewing/listening.
EDIT Am I right in thinking that the Blu Ray has audio description tracks for all six films??
I couldn't remember so I looked it up. Sure enough, yes http://www.noblemd.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=23&Itemid=26
Not sure if this means these are new tracks or previously released ones. I guess in terms of length, they'd probably be the 1997 editions to fit the OT. If Episode I existed for the DVD cut on tv (anyone confirm?), it might be the same.
Then again, maybe they did do new ones... "The Ewok blinks several times" (lol)
You've got me curious now. Somebody should post a sample to confirm.
Why couldn't you just splice it together with existing footage to "complete" it?
Glad to hear the release of the Blu-Rays doesn't mean you're starting over from scratch...
All this time I was thinking your handle was pronounced like "Addy Wahn" (like a take-off on Obi-Wan). Now in this interview it's "Eighty-One."
Well that puts a whole new spin on things. ;)
Btw, I always said "Aye Tee Aye Tee" and my friends all said "At At."
I've actually got the ability to watch BD now on my new computer...
I see the "Trilogy Box Sets" for $39.99 and the "Saga Box" for $89.99 at Wal-Mart.
Now IF somebody offered me the bonus disc(s) with the deleted scenes, or Episode III separately for a reasonable price, I might get 'em, but otherwise I can definitely wait.
After watching the various changes and sample vids online:
Episode I: Don't care that much. I was one of the few people who enjoyed making fun of "stoned Yoda" now one of the few enjoyable aspects is gone (even if the replacement looks decent).
Episode II: Blue tints, who needs 'em?
Episode IV: More stupid changes (even if some of the crap introduced in 2004 is partially fixed), no thanks.
Episode V: Same old crap. Don't want it.
Episode VI: Since this is my favorite of the series, I'm extra sensitive about changes to ROTJ (one of the few I liked was the 2004 cleanup of the Rancor fx)... hating the "Noooo! NOOoooOOO!"
DO NOT WANT!
Most of the changes are either stuff I never noticed before, were unnecessary or just suck. In some ways (color-wise) the OT looks improved over 2004, but remember that 2004 was a downgrade in many ways from the 1997 editions. And they haven't fixed all of the problems they introduced in 2004 (though to their credit, many of the more glaring problems have been addressed).
As for the specials, I've seen 'em all before (other than the one on the 501st and as I'm not a member, I'm not that interested).
So until they release the restored theatricals in Blu-Ray quality, color me (not blue) unimpressed. And I'm also resistant, because I had people tell me "oh, you'll complain but you'll buy it again like everyone else," which is BS! Speak for yourself, fanboy... (just a little bitter, maybe)
All I can say at this point is, thank God for fan edits/preservations/custom discs to tide us over until Lucas comes to his senses.
Now that the Blu-Rays are out and reveal some key deleted scenes (some in better quality than others), I’m wondering if anyone is interested in releasing a fan edit that incorporates some of these into the film?
Now someone will argue “but the quality isn’t the greatest! it won’t match!” but who cares… that didn’t stop people from editing together the TV cut of Dune with the DVD and it was awesome, and this is the best these scenes have ever looked, so it’s not like it was before when all we had was Behind the Magic. So sure, music might need to be added, some very basic cleanup/color correction, maybe even some prelim SFX. It would be a big project, but who is game?
It would be flat out awesome to see a new version of the “GOUT” with Luke & Biggs on Tatooine, Chief Bast and Vader talking in the hall, Red leader talking about Luke’s father, etc.
If someone was really ambitious, they could try colorizing the alternate cantina scene (or maybe make the whole movie black & white to match, or perhaps it doesn’t matter, Kill Bill got away with having black and white sequences in a color film).
The screenplay shows where the scenes ought to go.
Any takers?
bummer, I would have liked to see it
Monroville said:
Angel said:
The executor pic has a small mask error when the planet's glow meets executor. Its a small part but i think its an easy fix :)
The ties are gray again. I can take it that its an old screencap.
I personally wish Ady would go back to the grey TIEs. Be it consistency with ANH or just that (for me) I like the grey look better than the blue (which to me makes them look more like models). I never felt the TIEs in the Empire fleet reveal or the intro to the asteroid sequence "blended in" with the brownish-grey Star Destroyers, as they never were overlapping one another (with the exception of the first intro shot with the Falcon in the foreground and the SD directly behind it).
Great updates.
-Angel
I concur!
Blue TIEs are back?
EXCELLENT.
Anyway, you could just say that they're from Vader's fleet, so they're blue like the Executor instead of gray like the Death Star. ;)
I've tested Ady's TPM on two different blu-ray setups (stand alone and computer) and it will play video for about 2 seconds, then the screen will get distorted and "freeze" for 2 seconds, repeat.
The other AVCHD's don't do this.
DvDActive.com and digitalbits.com have posted about the changes in the 2011 Blu-Rays. Basically all the rumored changes (leaked on youtube) have been confirmed, but no, no further CGing of Yoda has been done beyond what was put into Episode I.
So looks like these are going to be rather different from what's coming out on Friday.
Anybody else have pauses and hiccups with Episode I (adys)?
Did you still need it?
