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Nobody wants to do it?

Master Qui-Gon said:

Hmm so can one of you please upload the audio corrected version with torrent or something like that??

Seconded. A lot more people will get to see it then...

Thanks for posting this!

I feel sorry for any poor Star Wars originally filmed extras that get "pasted over" by any fan editor... (no offense)

(SE stand-ins, not so much)

Seed the files on a torrent site, right? Or else find some people who will do it.

Start a thread and have people PM you. Get their addresses and send them DVDRs and get them to promise to put the files online. That might work, right?

captainsolo said:

I never could get the damn thing to work with any SW DVD. What exactly was on there?

I'll second that. I was excited and curious when I got mine and checked, but never found a thing... well I take that back, I did notice a "text commentary" for Episode II once, but it seemed like such a boring idea (watching the movie in a tiny window while I read plain text at the bottom... felt cheap).

If they're going to provide extra content not on the disc, they should let you download and keep it, especially if they're going to just get rid of it in a few years.

Congrats on the release. Looks like the torrent monkeys haven't noticed this yet (only the AVCHD version).

I'm an NTSC region 1 kinda guy here, so I wanted my experience of the sequel to be as much in continuity as my experience with the (International Cut Theatrical) Nightwatch experience on DVD...

So right now Netflix is my best bet? Pity I don't have Windows XP...

I was recently re-watching “Nightwatch” (getting into the Halloween spirit) a quirky, but cool Russian vampire movie. I haven’t yet seen the sequel “Daywatch” but want to.

I was looking up the official DVD from Fox, but apparently many were disappointed with it. The original movies (the “International Cut” at least) were in Russian with subtitles, but the subtitles were animated and had various tricks (appearing and disappearing into the background, turning colors, fading into “blood” trails, water effects, etc based on the mood, like a comic book… quite cool). Apparently the DVD of Daywatch is not the theatrical international cut, and so it just has boring plain white subtitles.

A lot of reviewers on amazon say this detracts from the experience.

So I was wondering if there is any available copy of the theatrical “International Cut” of Daywatch out there, and if not, if anyone is working on a preservation.

Thanks in advance!

Jaitea said:

I've uploaded another video this time with Ian in the picture (you don't need to tell me that some of the timing is off, but its just to see if the 'luke' works with the new footage) I mixed the audio from scratch again still using Musical Journey.... think it sounds better, sure I always say that. 

URL:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRAuVstzOv8&feature=youtube_gdata

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Very impressive... nearly perfect! A little adjustment and the audio is right. Combine that with the ROTJ footage (as Ady's teaser trailer demonstrates) and it's set! The "side views" should be taken from the footage of the Emperor from the "arrival" scene where he's talking and talking with Vader.

Nice to see something cool when I check the thread after awhile... ;)

Congrats! I always said that if somebody created a decent edit of this movie I'd buy the official DVD out of gratitude.

Ditto with the sequel.

Send it out to some trusted folks and get them to upload it... good luck!

dark_jedi said:

Any updates?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the opening post and the thread title say this is "available now."

What are we waiting on here, an audio update (version 2.0) with the menu error corrected?

If the torrent is seeded, I might check this out, even though TPM still sucks...!

So, is someone going to post a split screen comparison of the official DVD to this one?

You know, just so we can start complaining about the quality via details that are only the result of Youtube compression? J/k ;)

Luke's X-Wing is Red FIVE... in a few SE shots, his X-Wing still has only two wing markings (because in the 1997 CGI inserts, all the CGI fighters had Red Two's insignia).

There's one plain shot Ady forgot to fix, when Luke has one on his tail and can't shake him...

I kinda miss that classic shot of the TIE Fighters "flying in formation." Who is to say they can't do that? It has that World War vibe to it that is missing in the more "straight line" flying shot. However reduplicating the same four TIE Fighters dozens of times looks a little TOO cookie-cutter (which Is why I'm glad he scrapped that idea and just had a whole new shot added).

Incorporating a second long shot of some formation flying TIEs (just four) would be great if it can be done.

I think this movie is RIPE for a fan edit... most of the scenes of the bad jokes and the Twins (who weren't really useful to the story at all, and the one place they were could be easily enough explained away as a cracked wall)... could be easily snipped out.

Frankly, I'd rather see MORE scenes slowed down. Too much fast, blurry footage for my taste (same complaint with the first movie). Maybe subtly slow it down during some of the fights, like 4% or something. I can buy that the massive robots are capable of speed, but I want to be able to SEE the action and tell who is who... which can only be done in a few scenes when he either pulls back or slows it down.

I'm really looking forward to a "resparked" version of TF2:ROTF.

Heck, I'd shell out and buy BOTH movies on DVD to get a great edit (or two) out of this.

Turning both movies into a single film? Or like a two part episode of a TV show? Fantastic!

I can't wait...

PS: Please cut out the little decepticon not only humping the leg (nevermind the humping dogs), but his stupid line about "you're pretty hot, but not too bright..." Sorry, but I don't buy it that an evil alien robot will use earth slang to himself that indicates he considers an overly made-up model (who is supposed to be 20 years old, but looks more like 25) to be attractive!

Some of the humor can stay, but the Twins and most of the sex/toilet humor can be trimmed and the movie will improve!

That reminds me... in the SE "extended Yavin Battle" CGI... all the X-wings have the markings for Red 2 (two hatch marks on the wings). Adywan fixed it so that it reflects the proper pilot, except in one major shot I noticed... where Luke is flying away from the TIE and is saying "I can't shake him" the next big shot we see two hatch marks when we should see five.

A minor change.

Anyway, somebody said we see Dave Prowse's eyes through the Vader mask eyes a lot in ANH. Got any shots of that? I can't imagine that's a problem. Everybody knew he had eyes, and the fact that he has human eyes is not really a big deal. The red eyes stand out more from the mask, and I don't think it's a big problem that the suit is completely different in each movie. It's stranger that Vader would wear the same identical mask and stuff for 25 years.

Here are a list of errors (the TV series has even more errors of course, but the 1986 movie at least is only 84 minutes worth!), that somebody with some serious time on their hands and image editing know-how could correct:

"imdb" said:

• Continuity: When Optimus Prime arrives at Autobot City and begins wiping out Decepticons, he is seen shooting Soundwave. However, Soundwave is clearly seen later on unhurt, carrying Megatron’s damaged body.

• Continuity: When the Constructicons form Devastor for the first time, his chest plate is the same color as the rest of his body but then switches back to its regular color, purple, in the next shot.

• Plot holes: When Daniel knocks down half of the acid vat’s cover and Bumblebee, Jazz, Cliffjumper, and Spike land on it, none of Unicron’s other victims follow them, even though they weren’t the last to be eaten.

• Continuity: After Daniel goes down the waterfall inside of Unicron, he is shown washed up next to the acid vat. However, after showing a few robots being dropped into the acid, Daniel is shown running up to the vat from the water.

• Continuity: We watch Prowl die with flames beginning to shoot out of his mouth, and eventually he falls on his back with his whole torso in flames. Later, as the Decepticons take over the controls of the Autobot ship, the remains of the four autobots are seen on the floor, and Prowl is lying face first with much of his torso still intact. In fact, very little damage is shown on all four fallen Autobots until Ironhide reaches for Megatron in desperation.

• Audio/visual unsynchronized: When Megatron shoots Optimus Prime he shouts “Fall! Fall!”. However, the lip syncing on Megatron is out of place as he says it, instead hinting by the animation that he would’ve originally said at least three words instead of two.

• Audio/visual unsynchronized: Galvatron after being tortured in the throne room by Unicron, stands to his feet and says “Decepticons, to earth” however his lips don’t move.

• Audio/visual unsynchronized: At the start of the attack on Autobot city, after being fired upon by Decepticons from above, Ultra Magnus stands up and says “Springer!”, however his lips don’t move.

• Plot holes: After getting a new spacecraft from Quintessa, Hot Rod, Kup, Wheelie and the Dinobots fly over to the planet of junk to meet up with the other autobots. However, they had crashed on Quintessa earlier whilst the other autobots flew onwards to the planet of junk, and seeing as they hadn’t contacted them at all since the crash, how could Hot Rods group possibly know which planet the others were currently on?

• Continuity: As Swoop is circling over Quintessa and searching for Hot Rod and Kup, the Autobot symbols on his wings disappear.

• Audio/visual unsynchronized: On planet Quintessa, after Hot Rod discovers Kup underwater, his mouth doesn’t move when he yells out Kup’s name.

• Continuity: Sunstreaker is seen doing road construction early on in the movie, he is present amongst the Autobots setting up the roadblock for Kup. He is also seen next to Kup when he sees Hot Rod shooting at the shuttle. Yet later in the movie, he is seen piloting the shuttle that Optimus Prime has taken to arrive to Earth, and is standing next to him as he transforms to go face Megatron.

• Revealing mistakes: As Unicron is about to devour the first planet at the start of the film, there’s a shot of a robot looking up towards him saying “it’s Unicron!”, at this part there’s an animation error. If you look carefully the bottom part of Unicrons outer ring overlaps an object that is in the foreground, this would mean that Unicron is actually smaller than the objects on the surface of the planet and not bigger than the planet overall as established by the next few shots.

• Continuity: The size of Unicron in general changes in various parts throughout the film. The first planet attack shows that Unicrons mouth is large enough to almost swallow a planet whole, however during his first conversation with Megatron when we can see the two characters from a side on angle, Megatron appears to be nowhere near as tiny as he should be in comparison to Unicrons mouth.

• Continuity: When Sounwave deploys Rumble, Frenzy, Ravage and Ratbat to jam the transmissions being made by Blaster, we can see for a few seconds from a side angle that Rumble and Frenzy are the same colors, red and black. This is an animation error as Rumble is normally a light purple, which he returns to in the next shot.

• Revealing mistakes: As Soundwave carries the damaged body of Megatron through the battlefield towards Astrotrain, followed closely by Rumble carrying Megatron’s cannon, they appear to be running in thin air, as no ground is painted beneath their feet.

• Continuity: When Unicron transforms, the Autobot Matrix of Leadership disappears from Galvatron’s neck, who has been wearing it like a necklace, and is seen with it again when the sequence is over. Unicron’s head design also changes drastically in subsequent shots. This whole scene was in fact one of the first to be animated, when Unicron’s features and the story outline altogether have not been finalized yet (also explaining the absence of the Matrix from this scene).

• Factual errors: There are a couple frames where you can see the inside of one of the Lithonian ships being devoured by Unicron. The pilot of the ship appears to be Kranix, even though he apparently screams out Kranix’s name, and Kranix appears later in the Quintesson prison.

• Continuity: In the battle for Autobot City, when Prime drives up behind the Decepticons, Blitzwing turns his head and its color changes to purple for a split second. However, when he turns it back its tan again.

• Revealing mistakes: In the scene where Blaster ejects his tapes, he first ejects what looks like Eject. He stays blue up until he gets to the edge of the screen. He then turns black like Rewind. Then Blaster ejects a another blue cassette, which after about a second, turns black. This one gets through half his transformation colored black, then turns blue for a split second then turns black again. Then, when the cassettes are fighting each other, Eject runs in from the left and jumps over Perceptor. And then he runs in from the left again to shoot Ravage.

• Continuity: When Soundwave ejects his cassettes, Frenzy is colored like Rumble. Then, Frenzy actually disappears for a split second before finally appearing in the correct colors.

• Continuity: When Hot Rod tells the Junkions the universal greeting, the Autobot insignia on his chest is colored black instead of red.

• Continuity: The two Autobot shuttles have different color schemes. They are both predominantly orange, but Ultra Magnus’ shuttle has red trim, while Hot Rod and Kup’s shuttle has grey. When Magnus’ shuttle takes off, though, it’s got grey trim instead of red.

• Continuity: Following the crash of Hot Rod’s shuttle, as Galvatron sets his sights on Magnus’ shuttle, the ship has got grey trim once again instead of red.

• Continuity: Swoop’s lower leg appears for a brief second during the Autobot City battle, long before he even gets there.

• Continuity: In a high angle shot of the battle above Autobot City, Shockwave can be spotted among the participants of the aerial melee, when he is supposed to be on Cybertron. Dirge is also colored like Ramjet in this scene. Not only that, but Rumble can be spotted flying away to the left, but he is colored like Shockwave. Also in this same scene, Reflector appears, but he is colored like Ironhide. This is particularly interesting, since Reflector was phased out of the cartoon early in the second season. In fact, Reflector appears three more times in the movie, all erroneous appearances.

• Continuity: In one scene, Optimus Prime calls up Jazz on his monitor to have him check for Decepticon activity. After Ironhide’s shuttle launches, however, there’s a scene with Jazz and Cliffjumper standing right next to Prime.

• Audio/visual unsynchronized: After Optimus Prime plows through the group of Decepticons in truck mode, there’s no transforming sound effect when he changes back to robot mode.

• Audio/visual unsynchronized: When Optimus Prime transforms into his truck mode, he takes an inordinately long time to complete the transformation. He is still completing his transformation long after the transforming sound effect is heard.

• Continuity: Optimus Prime is missing the Autobot symbol on the side of his trailer when he transforms into his truck mode.

• Continuity: In the final camera pan of the victorious Autobots on Cybertron, both Blurr and Perceptor are missing their Autobot symbols, and Jazz’s front bumper and top chest panel are both colored white again. Then, in the next shot of Rodimus Prime thrusting his fist into the air and proclaiming, “Till all are one!” the nose on his Autobot symbol disappears.

• Continuity: When Arcee transforms to vehicle mode on the Planet of Junk, the Autobot symbol on her hood is missing.

• Continuity: When Springer transforms to car mode and backs away from Wreck-Gar, he’s missing the Autobot symbol on his hood.

• Continuity: In the scene where Hot Rod successfully opens the Matrix, he is able to fit his fingers into square holes in the handles. These finger holes do appear in a couple of other scenes (when Galvatron claims the Matrix from Magnus, and when Galvatron tries to claw it open to use against Unicron), but they seem to be an afterthought. The finger holes are missing throughout most of the movie, including the scene in which Optimus Prime first takes the Matrix out of his chest.

• Continuity: After the Autobots successfully escape into space, during the first scene inside the shuttle in which Kup is telling stories to the Dinobots, Slag is missing the Autobot symbol on his Triceratops head.

• Plot holes: After Galvatron says “Ultra Magnus is mine!”, thereby implying that he wants to be the one to destroy him, he proceeds to attack Hot Rod, Arcee, and the Dinobots instead of Ultra Magnus.

• Revealing mistakes: When the Allicons (alligator-like guards of the Quintessons) come out of the water reacting to the appearance of Hot Rod and Kup, there are splashes around their feet even when they are on land. Later, when they transform to attack the newcomers, you can see dark-colored stripes running down their features. These were supposed to mark the line under which darker tones should be applied to make a shadow effect, but no shadow is painted onto them, only the darker stripes remain visible.

• Plot holes: Unicron obviously has his own center of gravity. Galvatron tumbles into Unicron’s insides after Unicron swallows him; the robots on the conveyor fall into the processing vat; the Autobots are able to transform and roll out while inside Unicron. If this is the case, though, then considering how much Unicron is moving about during his assault on Cybertron, why aren’t the Transformers inside of him experiencing the equivalent of a constant earthquake?

• Revealing mistakes: When Rodimus Prime transforms for the first time and drives off, look at his windshield: the top of it keeps changing shape from frame to frame, creating a weird effect when viewed in motion.

• Audio/visual unsynchronized: When Blitzwing arrives at Lookout Mountain and beckons Hot Rod to “Come on down, Auto-brat!” he isn’t moving his mouth when he speaks.

• Audio/visual unsynchronized: During the voting process to keep the wounded on board Astrotrain or dump them into space, the voices of the Decepticons chanting “Aye!” and “Nay!” don’t match any of the Decepticon characters present.

• Audio/visual unsynchronized: After Rumble and Frenzy shake Devastator apart, Devastator’s components transform back into the Constructicons. We don’t hear any transforming sound effects when this happens, though, even though we see Devastator’s shoulders fall and transform back into Hook.

• Audio/visual unsynchronized: When Hot Rod suggests that Kup has better things to do than tell stories to the Dinobots, the Dinobots begin protesting. One of them says, “Quiet! We wanna hear story!” It looks like Sludge’s mouth is moving here, but this definitely isn’t Sludge’s voice.

• Audio/visual unsynchronized: The first time we see Wreck-Gar, his mouth doesn’t move when he delivers the line, “Offer expires while you wait. Operators are standing by.”

• Plot holes: It is unexplainable how Laserbeak managed to get video recording of the Autobots from all those angles we see when he plays the recording back, considering he was stationary during the recording process. Some of his shots indicate that he moved right in front of the faces of the Autobots, which would have been impossible for him to do, partly because he was outside of their base and partly because the Autobots would have noticed him.

• Continuity: When Ironhide says to nobody in particular, “Your days are numbered now, Decepti-creeps,” the ring around the base of his neck is colored grey. It’s black in every other scene.

• Continuity: When Jazz first appears on Optimus Prime’s monitor, he is missing the Autobot symbol that’s usually on the square blue panel on his chest. The symbol is missing again, when he contacts Moon Base Two, and again when Cliffjumper begins the countdown for the shuttle launch.

• Continuity: As Cliffjumper begins delivering the countdown for the shuttle launch, the top of his body is colored light blue, as though this were his rear windshield, when his body should be red. Also, Jazz is standing next to him and the front bumper on his chest is colored white instead of red.

• Continuity: As Jazz is released by the conveyor claw into the processing vat, his front bumper is colored white when it should be red, and the panel on the top of his hood is white when it should be blue.

• Continuity: As Optimus Prime, Jazz, and Cliffjumper are watching the shuttle depart and Prime comments, “Now, all we need is a little energon and a lot of luck,” the inside of Cliffjumper’s helmet is colored grey, like his face, instead of red.

• Continuity: As Springer pulls Arcee aboard the shuttle, the bottom panels on her helmet that cover her forehead are colored pink, like her face, instead of grey, like the rest of her helmet.

• Miscellaneous: Back on Cybertron, when Soundwave retrieves Laserbeak, he doesn’t push the eject button on his shoulder to open or close his cassette door. This is not only inconsistent with previous episodes, but also with scenes later in the movie.

• Continuity: As Laserbeak enters Soundwave’s chest, the twin stripes on either side of his cassette door are colored blue instead of yellow. They change to yellow as Soundwave leaps into the air and transforms.

• Continuity: Also, right before Soundwave transforms to tape deck mode to play back Laserbeak’s recording, there’s a computer monitor to the right of Soundwave which is rectangular with an indentation on the left side. After Soundwave transforms and plugs into it, however, the viewscreen is perfectly rectangular with no indentation.

• Continuity: On Laserbeak’s playback of the conversation between Prime and Ironhide, Prime is waving his arms about. He was not doing this when he was actually speaking with Ironhide, though.

• Continuity: After Megatron finishing watching the recording and comments than Prime will need more luck than he imagines, the bottom triangles of Megatron’s Decepticon insignia are connected to the rest of the symbol. They are supposed to be separate pieces.

• Revealing mistakes: When we first see Ironhide’s shuttle, the ship is overlapping an asteroid that is supposed to be in the foreground.

• Continuity: As Megatron rips through the breach in the shuttle, we see Scavenger behind him, whose body and head are colored entirely purple. Scavenger should have a green body and a black helmet with a grey face mask and red eyes.

• Continuity: Once Prime throws Megatron to the ground, the cannon on Megatron’s back is colored black. It should be grey.

• Continuity: During the scene of Megatron talking to Unicron, you can see that his (Megatron’s) entire Decepticon symbol is colored grey. It changes back to purple in later shots.

• Continuity: After Brawn is hit, as Starscream looks on while he falls to the ground, Mixmaster is standing behind Starscream and his lower legs are colored purple instead of green.

• Continuity: When Prowl fires back at the Decepticons entering the shuttle, Scavenger’s head briefly changes from purple to light grey. Neither of these colors is correct; his helmet should be black.

• Revealing mistakes: When Scavenger dodges Prowl’s laser bolts, Scavenger momentarily overlaps Starscream’s wing, which should be in the foreground.

• Continuity: In the scene in which Starscream is firing repeatedly at Ironhide and Ratchet, the gun-mode Megatron in his hands is colored entirely grey. Megatron should have a black stock, barrel, and scope.

• Continuity: Ratchet is missing the red cross on his shoulder as he falls to the floor.

• Continuity: As Blitzwing is aiming his turret cannon, the piece of his plane cockpit that’s still visible in tank mode is colored purple, like the rest of his nosecone, when the canopy glass should be blue.

• Continuity: When Kup leaps onto Blitzwing and grabs his tank barrel, part of the front of Blitzwing’s tank mode is colored blue instead of tan.

• Revealing mistakes: Then, as Kup is still holding the turret cannon, Blitzwing fires a purple colored laser bolt, and both Kup and Blitzwing’s tank barrel are washed in purple light. But only Blitzwing’s tank barrel changes color; the turret it’s connected to remains its normal tan color.

• Continuity: Finally, when Shrapnel collides with Blitzwing, the underside of Blitzwing’s tank mode is tan and featureless. Compare this to earlier, when he transformed into his tank mode and his purple robot-mode chest was still visible on the bottom of the tank after he finished transforming.

• Continuity: After Ultra Magnus gives his orders and Springer leaps off the staircase to transform the city into battle station mode, the Autobot symbol on Springer’s chest disappears for an instant.

• Revealing mistakes: As Springer and Arcee flee from the attacking Starscream, there is a spot of battle damage on the floor, on the lower left side of the screen, that isn’t moving with the rest of the floor. This damaged area even overlaps the subsequent explosion.

• Continuity: In the communications tower, when Blaster’s control chair begins to swivel, the plate on his forehead is colored red when it should be grey.

• Continuity: As Blaster begins sending his distress signal to Optimus Prime, in the group shot of the Decepticons firing on the city, Soundwave’s head is miscolored. The panels on the sides of his head are colored blue, like the rest of his helmet, when they should be grey.

• Continuity: After the cassettes smash through the skylight, there’s no evidence of broken glass anywhere on the floor of the communications room.

• Continuity: As the Decepticons charge the city and the truck-mode Prime approaches them from behind, Soundwave’s upper legs change from grey to blue, and Blitzwing’s head changes from yellow to purple for a moment (as mentioned above). Dirge is also colored like Ramjet in this scene.

• Continuity: After Megatron throws that shard of metal into Optimus Prime’s side, as Prime is clutching his wound, we see the little triangle on Prime’s forearm on the outside of his wrist (facing front). In the next scene, when Prime back away, the triangle is now on the top of his wrist (facing up).

• Continuity: After Megatron has grabbed Hot Rod and Prime is trying to get a good shot at Megatron, Prime is missing the square panel on the side of his hip.

• Continuity: When Magnus responds to this decision by saying, “I’m not worthy,” the components on either side of his head are colored grey, like the antenna attached to them. They should be blue, like the rest of his helmet.

• Continuity: When Starscream kicks the defeated Megatron, the entire middle section of his chest is orange. Only the canopy glass should be orange; the rest should be grey.

• Continuity: As Starscream is dusting off his hands, part of his chest armor is colored grey when it should be red. Then, when Starscream is nominating himself to be the new Decepticon leader, the entire middle section of his chest is colored orange again.

• Continuity: When Megatron urges Soundwave not to leave him behind, the eject button on Soundwave’s shoulder is colored blue instead of grey.

• Continuity: After Hot Rod catches the Matrix and Ultra Magnus is about to take it back from him, part of the left side of the shield on Magnus’ chest flashes from blue to red for an instant.

• Continuity: When the Decepticons attack the Autobots at Autobot City, Snarl, the Stegosaurus Dinobot appears out of nowhere, and suddenly Swoop, the Pteranodon robot disappears.

• Continuity: When Scrapper makes a play for Decepticon leadership, the panel on the side of his foot changes several times from a dark green color (shaded) to a light green color (unshaded).

• Continuity: When Bonecrusher balks, “Who are you calling inferior?” his chin guard is colored grey when it should be black. Also, the “eyes” on Hook’s Decepticon symbol are missing at the beginning of this scene.

• Continuity: When the cassettes eject themselves to defend Soundwave’s play for leadership, Soundwave is missing the red stripes around his wrists, and the border around his cassette door is light blue when it should be yellow. Also, the door remains open for this shot, when it normally closes back after the cassettes have been deployed.

• Continuity: Also, when Unicron begins to “consume” Megatron, the symbol on his chest has disappeared altogether, but when Megatron recants, “I accept your terms! I accept!” it has returned.

• Continuity: After Galvatron shows up on Cybertron and takes command, Soundwave is drawn significantly off-model as he cheers the arrival of the new leader. The cassette door in his chest is incredibly small in this scene; it is not much bigger than his head.

• Continuity: After Unicron approaches Moon Base One, the panel on the top of Jazz’s vehicle hood is colored white instead of blue. It is the same way when Jazz makes his way to the shuttle.

• Continuity: In Autobot City, Blaster is missing the speakers on the front of his legs when he first detects the distress signal from Spike and Bumblebee.

• Continuity: As Spike and Bumblebee celebrate Unicron’s apparent destruction, the symbol on Bumblebee’s chest is missing. Then, when they realize that Unicron is still intact, Bumblebee’s open mouth is colored red, when it should be grey.

• Revealing mistakes: When Ultra Magnus is rallying the Autobots against Unicron, somebody must have accidentally moved one of the animation cels. In this scene, his chest shifts slightly to one side, while his head and arms remain still.

• Revealing mistakes: After Galvatron, and the newly created Cyclonus, Scourge, and the Sweeps fly away from Unicron inside their brand new space ship, there is a noticeable black dot on the screen that moves along with the ship. When the ship finally flies out of the screen, the dot also stops in its path.

• Continuity: After the shuttle begins to taxi and Arcee starts running after it, at one point she actually reaches the ramp, and it even looks like she grabs onto it. In the next scene, though, she is several feet behind the ramp again.

• Revealing mistakes: This is an error in timing: some of the shot marks appear a few frames before the laser bolts hit the ground, as the Autobots make a run towards the shuttles in Autobot City.

• Continuity: Also in this scene, Swoop’s Pteranodon neck changes color from blue to gold when he pleads, “Good part, Kup! Tell Swoop good part!”

• Revealing mistakes: As Galvatron operates a green button in the cockpit of his ship to release some missiles, there is a grey panel right in front of him with rectangular keys on it. It simply disappears from one frame to the next just as he pushes the green button.

• Continuity: After Ultra Magnus orders the separation of the ship, as Perceptor swivels around and proclaims, “That’s too dangerous!” the entire front panel on his forehead is yellow. Only the rectangular box inside this panel should be yellow.

• Continuity: When Hot Rod is trying to save Kup from the giant robot squid, Hot Rod retracts his fist and replaces it with a buzzsaw blade. After he uses the blade on the squid for the second time, his hand suddenly reappears. A moment later, the buzzsaw blade is back again; then Hot Rod finally retracts the buzzsaw blade and replaces it with his hand.

• Continuity: After Ultra Magnus’ shuttle crashes on the Planet of Junk, when Magnus goes, “Say something! Anybody!” his upper leg is colored blue when it should be white.

• Continuity: A moment later, in the shot of the Autobots scattered around the cabin of the shuttle, Blurr’s entire head is grey. It should be colored light blue with a light grey component on the back of his helmet.

• Continuity: As the Dinobots proceed through Quintessa, Slag nearly walks into a trap door, and Grimlock whacks Slag out of the way with his tail. In this scene, Slag’s lower jaw is round in shape. When Slag gets to his feet, he growls at Grimlock and bares his teeth. In the scene after this, though, Slag’s jaw is back to its normal square shape, and he once again has no teeth.

• Continuity: As Wheelie first approaches the Dinobots, Slag has a yellow square on his forehead instead of his Autobot symbol. Later, when Wheelie climbs onto Sludge’s back, Slag has a yellow circle on his head instead of the Autobot symbol.

• Continuity: When Wheelie jumps up onto Sludge’s head, the top section of Sludge’s neck is colored grey. It should be gold.

• Continuity: In the scene where Hot Rod and Kup are fighting the Sharkticons, right before Hot Rod punches the Sharkticon in the mouth, the entire top sections of Hot Rod’s shoulders are colored grey. Only the panels inside his shoulders should be grey.

• Continuity: After the Dinobots burst into the court room, as they proceed to move in on the Sharkticons, the Autobot symbols disappear from Grimlock’s chest and the top of Slag’s head.

• Continuity: At one point during the battle on the Planet of Junk, Wreck-Gar throws his axe at the helicopter-mode Springer, and it goes tumbling off into the distance. A moment later, though, Wreck-Gar engages Springer in robot mode, and his axe has miraculously returned.

• Revealing mistakes: When the Quintesson spaceship is nearing the surface of the Planet of Junk, there is a really well animated shot of it spiraling through the air towards the battlefield, with only one problem: the bottom of the ship is not fully drawn, so you can see a “gap” on the bottom of the screen that changes its shape from frame to frame.

• Continuity: There are several continuity errors during the above scene. As the ship lands, we see a very brief glimpse of the ship’s cockpit from the outside, after which we cut to a scene from the inside of the cockpit, looking outside the windows of the ship. In the scene from inside the ship, Grimlock is standing in a different place; the window divider has moved; and Wheelie is sitting instead of standing. Also, Snarl can be spotted (also in robot mode) in the exterior shot of the cockpit, even though he wasn’t there with the Autobots who boarded the ship, and disappears again after this shot.

• Continuity: When Hot Rod emerges from the Quintesson ship, the ship is colored silver in the matte painting behind him, but in the animated shots before and after this scene, the ship is its normal green color. Also, the symbol on Grimlock’s dinosaur mode chest is missing as he exits the ship.

• Errors made by characters (possibly deliberate errors by the filmmakers): When the Junkions start to reassemble Ultra Magnus, they begin by putting his legs on backwards. They try to fit his left leg into the right socket, and vice versa.

• Revealing mistakes: As Hot Rod and Kup are looking on and nod to each other on the Planet of Junk, the left part of the spoiler on Hot Rod’s back moves with his head as though the spoiler were attached to his head.

• Continuity: In the long shot of Unicron standing on Cybertron, battling the Decepticon fleet, he suddenly seems a lot smaller than he did when he first approached Cybertron and raked its surface with his hand. Also in this scene, Unicron is shooting pink-colored beams from his functional eye. In the close-up, however, the beams he is firing are green in color.

• Continuity: During the Dinobot attack on Unicron, when the camera pans up to Unicron’s head, his damaged eye is inexplicably intact. Also in this scene, when Swoop is attacking Unicron, he’s missing the Autobot symbols on his wings.

• Continuity: When Unicron reaches for the Dinobots and tries to close his first on them, the square panels on his knuckles are light grey when they should be colored orange. There is also a pretty huge size discrepancy in this scene. When the Dinobots first start attacking Unicron, they are much larger than they are a few seconds later when Unicron tries to grab them.

• Continuity: When Hot Rod crashes the Quintesson ship through Unicron’s eye, it makes a hole that extends from the top of his eye to the bottom. When we cut to the inside of Unicron’s head and see the ship traveling into his head, though, the hole has changed size and is now considerably smaller.

• Revealing mistakes: After the Quintesson ship breaks apart, all of the Autobots fall into Unicron’s depths except for Hot Rod, who falls onto the side of a gigantic spike jutting out of the side of the tunnel and is knocked out. When Hot Rod regains consciousness and falls off of the spike, the animation isn’t lined up with the background, so it looks like Hot Rod’s legs disappear when he slips off.

• Continuity: As Hot Rod is trekking through Unicron’s innards, his Autobot symbol is missing when he climbs up onto the ledge.

• Revealing mistakes: Inside Unicron, two generic robots are dropped into a processing vat. As the blue robot in the back begins to turn red as he melts, his head changes back to blue for an instant.

• Continuity: Daniel in his exo-suit is visible in the high angle of the robots being carried away to the cauldron, even though he hasn’t actually arrived on the scene by this point.

• Continuity: When Daniel is trying to activate the laser on his exo-suit to save Spike, the panel on the arm of his exo-suit is already open. In the next scene, the panel is closed; then Daniel fiddles with some controls and the panel pops open.

• Continuity: When Spike and the others from the processing vat run into the room and Spike asks what’s going on, Bumblebee is missing the Autobot symbol on his chest.

• Revealing mistakes: In the close-up shot of Rodimus Prime running towards his companions, the green lighting effect behind him is mismatched; it is shifted a bit to the side, overlapping parts of Rodimus, with some of the background still visible in his other side.

• Factual errors: The voice actor credits include listings for the characters Inferno, Gears, Prowl, and Dirge, even though none of them had speaking lines in the movie. Also, Jack Angel does not receive a credit for the character of Ramjet, even though Ramjet’s voice can clearly be heard during the scene when the injured Decepticons are pushed off of Astrotrain and he commands, “Get! Make room for others!” For that matter, Frank Welker doesn’t get a credit for his portrayal of the auto-combatant that Hot Rod is sparring with. The cast list is supposed to be alphabetical, but Peter Cullen’s name is listed before that of Scatman Crothers.

• Continuity: When Optimus Prime drives right into the ranks of the fleeing Deseipticons in truck-mode, you can see the reflection of Thrust’s terrified face in his truck-grill. The problem here is that Thrust is a really tall robot, and there is no way he could see himself in Prime’s relatively low truck-grill. In this scene, all of the Deceipticons seem to be quite small as Optimus plows through them.

• Revealing mistakes: As one of the Autobot space-shuttles takes off from Autobot City, the details on it keep shifting from frame to frame. This creates a really awkward effect when viewed in motion.

• Factual errors: Astrotrain can apparently change his size to be able to accommodate all the other Decepticons (who are generally about as big as he is) inside himself when he transforms into his alternate modes. This strange phenomenon is called “mass shifting”, but one particular scene takes it to the extreme: The Constructicons merge to form the gigantic Devastator, inside Astrotrain. This is considered to be an error, since for the Constructicons to be able to unite, Astrotrain would have to grow immensely huge, bigger than even the inconsistent senses of the Transformers cartoon would allow.

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• Continuity: SPOILER: Early on in the attack on Autobot city, Starscream is forced to shoot off his leg to avoid being crushed. However, later on when the Decepticons retreat, his leg/foot is totally undamaged.

• Continuity: SPOILER: When the Decepticons are killing the Autobots inside the Autobot shuttle, there is one of the common Starscream/Skywarp/Thundercracker miscolors. Megatron transforms into gun mode and Starscream catches him and kills Brawn. When they cut back to the Decepticons, Starscream is in front of the Constructicons without Megatron and is firing one of his arm rifles (this probably should have been Skywarp or Thundercracker). When they cut back to the Decepticons for the third time, Starscream has Megatron again and is finishing off the rest of the Autobots.

• Continuity: SPOILER: Even after the Battle of Autobot City, characters who are supposedly dead continue to appear in crowd shots and battles. Shrapnel’s role in the fight on Junk is the most noticeable, but Thundercracker and Skywarp can be seen at both Starscream’s coronation and flying into Unicron’s mouth in the final fight scene.

• Continuity: SPOILER: Also, in the first scene in which the Autobots gather around the dying Optimus Prime, Arcee is missing the Autobot symbol on her chest.

• Continuity: SPOILER: As Brawn is shot down, Scavenger can be seen in the background and he’s carrying his gun in his right hand. When Scavenger fires on Prowl, though, his gun is suddenly in his left hand. Then, after Prowl is gunned down and Ironhide and Ratchet return fire, however, Scavenger’s gun is in his right hand again.

• Continuity: SPOILER: When Ironhide and Ratchet are gunned down near the forward section of the shuttle, Ironhide is on Megatron’s left (after he faces the front of the shuttle). When Ironhide makes his last ditch effort and grabs Megatron’s leg, however, he’s suddenly on Megatron’s right.

• Plot holes: SPOILER: It is never shown how the Autobots managed to defeat the Constructicons’ combined form of Devastator. During the battle, he is in full force, and not even the Dinobots, who are among the strongest of Autobots can deal with him, but when we next see him, he has already split apart to form the individual Constructicons again, who are all fleeing with the other Decepticons. In the movie script, a scene was described in which the scene of Devastator’s defeat is depicted, but since that scene was never animated, and no mention is made to the event itself later on, this counts as a plot hole in a way.

• Continuity: SPOILER: On board Astrotrain, as the healthy Decepticons converge on the injured warriors to toss them into space, the panel in the center of Bombshell’s chest is colored grey when it should be yellow. Also in this scene, the red stripes on Soundwave’s forearms are missing, and Dirge is once again colored like Ramjet.

• Continuity: SPOILER: The stray gun that Megatron finds on the ground is purple colored. In the close-up of Megatron chanting, “Fall… fall!” the gun is colored entirely black.

• Continuity: SPOILER: After Prime delivers his final blow to Megatron and collapses to his knee, the antenna on either side of his helmet are colored grey instead of blue.

• Revealing mistakes: SPOILER: As Megatron plunges several stories from atop of the edge, his Decepticon emblem and the scrapes and other wounds that cover his chest shift positions from frame to frame.

• Revealing mistakes: SPOILER: As the Decepticons gather around the fallen body of Megatron, we see that they do not in fact appear out of the sides of the screen, but actually “pop” into view a few centimeters away from the screen’s edges, and continue to run towards their leader.

• Continuity: SPOILER: As Prime tells Ultra Magnus that he is going to pass on the Matrix of Leadership to him, the top of Magnus’ body is colored blue when it should be red.

• Continuity: SPOILER: When Starscream hoists Megatron over to the air lock, Soundwave can be seen in the background and his eyes are colored grey instead of red.

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Monroville said:

In regards to the close-up AT-AT head shots:




I concur that the snow could be removed from the AT-AT headshots, but would you consider showing the crew INSIDE the head through the window (or at least something to indicate there is something/someone inside)?  I guess that is one of the main reasons I loved the red cockpit idea.  Even without the "red", to add some lighting in the cockpit with something there to indicate it is a working head and not a solid model would be nice to see.

You may want to also blacken the holes on all 6 guns where the lasers come out (the second shot isn't as bad, but the first one you can tell they are a little "model-ly" in how solid the barrels look).  Also, is it just me, or is the head model a little "rough around the edges", at least in that first shot (notice the area right above the 2 lower guns and how the front face plate with the window seems to be angled/sliding down to the left compared to the rest of the head)?  Another thing could be to add some texturing to the head to help increase the scale.

To add to the "more lasers" issue, maybe you could have the upper side guns shoot lasers along with the longer barreled side guns, or even make them more like mini-guns for close-in defense - you could even have the small gun barrels "spin" when they fire off a laser burst.  Even so, you could still retain the 4 laser firing rate for all long distance shots by keeping the smaller side guns for close defense.

Also also, no biggie on this one but an extra idea none the less.  Whether the AT-ATs are powered by fusion, fission, coal, or harsh language, I was wondering if you had smoke or steam coming out of either the tail pipe or panels on the AT-AT as the engine vents as the vehicle moves. I don't know how that would look (and definitely not something necessary), but just another idea to throw out there.

Triple also: in regards to the "AT-AT death by hand grenade "scene - a good reference as to how to modify the explosion would be the destruction of the Enterprise in STAR TREK III: THE SEARCH FOR SPOCK.  You could extend the AT-AT death a few seconds (nothing major) by showing the side paneling venting some of the internal explosion as the skin almost evaporates.  You could also show:

(a) the central engine fall from the bottom before the AT-AT makes it's leftward fall

(b) show snowtroopers jumping out the side hatch on fire as they try to escape.

(c) definitely modify/ re-film the head explosion

(d) add sparks and internal electrical fires within the smoky neck area or even take the far-off flaming Enterprise shot from ST3 (when it is entering the atmosphere) and blend it with the neck, so when the AT-AT makes its fall you have a nice trail of flames coming from the neck where the head used to be (as opposed to just smoke)

(e) making elements of the explosion "bigger" by making the flames appear .. not smaller per se, but you know how a massive fire looks coming from a building or airplane as opposed to a model 2 to 5 feet tall.

I think the snow adds character, why remove it? It's not like machinery can't pick up snow... those walkers are tall and the wind is going to be blowing snow and flakes will accumulate as they move around.

I don't really care that much about the "red windshield" thing but I don't see why a red windshield means the cockpit needs to be tinted red on the inside like some kind of Submarine emergency lighting. Ever hear of a tinted windshield? That's all it is. Plus tinting scenes just is annoying. I disliked the hyperspace tinting done for ANH:R, even if it did "make sense" now that he restored the blue effect (and it didn't have to be that blue after all). Those shots of the interior of the AT-ATs is just too cool that I shudder to think of anything in it changing at all (except maybe normalizing those decals on the back of the helmets).

adywan said:

And Jeyl, i have no problems with criticisms whatsoever but your posts came across as just plain rude. I welcome criticisms as they have changed my mind about many things in these edits but you have to respect that i do have a carefully thought out plan for the saga which not everyone will agree with. But that doesn't mean that there's a need for name calling and rudeness.

 

It gladdens my heart to hear you say this, adywan, even though it was not directly specifically at me!

I'm hoping certain folks will remember this when they direct hostility towards me on here (as they have in the past) for criticizing some of your creative choices! ;)

vaderios said:

Vader's Eyes are definetely suberb as black.

If you like tho the red at least someone should cover the actor's eyes from inside :)

 

-Angel

I am curious why people keep bringing this up. When do we see Prowse's eyes through the costume and why is this a problem?

sketchrob said:

Y'know Kurgan just once I'd like to see you acutally attemt to create any of your "suggestions", I really would.

Says the one who has never released a fan edit...

Last I checked this thread was about making suggestions, whether or not we had any plans to do it ourselves... not gushing over what fan editors had already decided to do on their own, so please take your snarky attitude and shove it out the nearest airlock (and try the spell-checker next time). ;)

I wonder, now that it seems like we’re grasping at things to do… if there are any talented people crazy enough to attempt something like this…

Editing the SWHS! Either to make it cooler, less bad, or funnier, whatever.

First off I can think of some changes… replacing the recycled footage from ANH with new CGI or whatnot (ex: borrowing elements from Episode III to use for Kashyyyk), perhaps redoing the cartoon segment, etc.

Since it’s “TV quality” anyway, perhaps we could even get the 501st guys to be extras or something.

Just throwing out some ideas! Any others?

I'd agree with ChainSawAsh on ANH:R Mark II (or 2.55, as the case may be)...

The only other things I'd add to that list is returning Vader's eyes to red, returning the "spinning camera shot" of the Falcon as it flies past, fixing the "monochrome effect" (loss of all color other than the red lights) we see in that shot of Vader getting the TIE Pilots to follow him down the hall, and the brief glimpse of Tarkin brooding right before the Death Star blows up.

In fact, instead of showing the exact same footage of the beam building up in the chamber (with operators shielding their eyes), I'd remove that and just show Tarkin and then the explosion as before (with the beams animating into position before it blows... subtle, without a complete repeat of the previous footage).

For ESB:R Mark II, the one change I can think of immediately is restoring all the TIE fighters in ESB to brilliant blue. ;)

Of course I'd really love to see someone restore the deleted ANH footage and come up with a cut that has the option to play the movie with those scenes interspersed back into the cut.

Blue ion cannon shots?

Somebody's been doing too much EU-acid! ;P

It's not like people can't tell that it's a "special" weapon, considering the special gun and the fact that they call it an Ion cannon which we never have seen before or since, and does all those electrical effects on the ship.

The SHOT isn't an electrical weapon, it's a bolt that disrupts the systems of the ship, shields, electronics, etc. like a turbo laser with an EMP warhead.

And please ignore that silliness in the Clone Wars cgi series with their "ion cannon" (which is nothing like either the one in ESB or the ones in the video games, which is where the blue stuff comes from).

Love the mock ups though... at this rate ESB:R should be done in time for the 40th anniversary! ;)

I personally think what this movie needs is more blood. It's unrealistic that Han slices open that Taun Taun and its guts just fall out like wet rice noodles. I'm thinking you could put in some of those "Kill Bill" style blood geysers there. It would really pay homage to the old Samurai movies that Lucas was inspired by, like Shogun Assasin.

The space slug looks fine. Why change it? It's a fantastic creature that makes absolutely no sense in real life, so if we were going for strict realism there would be no creature, period. Delete the whole scene and just say they flew out of a normal asteroid.

The only part that needs fixing are the bad matte lines on the teeth in those last shots (and maybe that strange blue effect that everyone mentioned that's now been removed). Everybody knows it's a monster mouth except Leia, so what?

If you really want to improve the scene, turn it into one of the sand worms from Dune, and insert the line where Dr. Kynes is talking about blessing the Maker and his water. ;)