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Knight of Kalee

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#1350525
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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Getting rid of the space horses in the final battle actually worked really well! I like the horses, but I hadn’t noticed how they disappear from the battle with no explanation, as in we don’t see them killed, falling off the destroyer or anything. Now we only need another place to move that epic variation of the Force theme, since it would be a shame to lose it.

I’d keep Chewie’s fake-out death, only to give context to Rey’s main conflict in this movie, specially for a Rey Nobody edit.

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#1350153
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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I agree the scene is funnier with the Gilligan cut (“I’m not doing this!” then smash cut to the data restored anyway). I’d keep 3PO saying “I’m going with Padmé/Anakin…”, and after he asks R2 “I already have?”, maybe have him mention something about “Master Luke”, only to remind the audience that the OT memories have not been lost.

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#1349581
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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axlanian said:

Okay, here’s my mix of the fleet dialogue chatter

https://vimeo.com/423025361
fanedit

I tried to make everyone sound like they were actually coming through the comms, while widening the sound so it surrounds the viewer a bit for a sense of scale. Let me know if at any point the layering is too dense or empty, or if any specific lines should stand out more or be buried a bit more.

Magnificent! The comlink effect is seamless! Watching and hearing this was so moving.

Maybe you could move the “we believe in you Poe” to after Finn’s line, as Chase Adams did, and in its place put the Mon Calamari line so it can stand out a bit.

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#1349440
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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idir_hh said:

I think it would be great to have some Plagues/Snoke music play as Kylo descends into and walks around the sith temple on Exogol.

I agree. The music that plays when the Sith temple is revealed is pretty awesome, but’s also the theme of the Knights of Ren, who don’t appear in this scene. The Snoke/Plagueis music could tie the scenes together, backing up Palpatine’s claim about the dark side “unnatural” abilities.

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#1349139
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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I loved the fleet voices. Maybe a couple of them (right at the beginning, or when Poe’s cockpit is shown) should be clearer/louder so the audience gets what’s going on, with the remaining cluster of voices backing up the general idea. But it works much better than the original.

Hal, isn’t it nosey to ask for some of the lines that were included, for the sake of those who’d like to make some hypothetical subtitles?

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#1348913
Topic
The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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I would have loved if the film had a small Endgame moment with many familiar faces coming back from retirement for the ultimate battle. They wouldn’t even need to be named characters, but showing like, a Mon calamari bridge, or at least close-ups of the ships involved, would have sold the moment better.

For now the best we can do is going the Hal route and add comlink lines to the pilots, and maybe sneak in one Easter egg or two.

Regarding Baby Yoda, I have the feeling his species has a different growth rate, with a very long toddler stage followed for a sudden, quick infancy/adolescence. If Yoda’s species aged the same way as us, and baby Yoda is 50, Yoda at 900 would look like a young adult instead of being on his deathbed.

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#1348824
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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I admit my main reason I really wanted DOTF to be in the film is because of its prominence in the late marketing, that left me thinking they were truly going to deliver on the “recovering the iconic scores of every prior film” only to be underwhelmed when it didn’t feature in the film.

Maybe playing the full song over the duel can result jarring. It would be awesome to have a mix of themes for the duel that include Rey’s, Kylo’s and DOTF.

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#1348524
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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DominicCobb said:

Knight of Kalee said:

I mentioned it already in the general thread, but besides obvious suggestions like Duel of the Fates or Across the stars, I have a less-known prequel theme in mind, one that is prominent in the second half of ROTS. It’s a Sith motif named “Mystery of the Sith” also known as the second half of Padmé’s Ruminations. It has early hints to the “Anthem of Evil” theme if you listen it closely.

TROS really should serve as a culmination of the saga in all its aspects, including the score.

Is that really a motif though? I can only think of one time it’s used in the film.

I will say too the film as is already features a few quotes of prequel music.

It appears when Anakin is given instructions by Sidious, and also when Obi-Wan realizes he has turned to the dark side. I was suggesting to use snippets of it mainly because it’s less on-the-nose than other prequel tracks, and because of the similar notes to the Anthem of evil theme.

The film does reuse prequel music but it’s not that noticeable. I mostly remember “Yoda challenging Palpatine” track when Rey’s training on Ajan Kloss, and an AOTC track similar to the Kamino theme when Poe and Zorii talk on Kijimi. I’d have to rewatch the film to notice more similarities. For me, having Duel of the Fates during the final duel would be enough.

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#1348492
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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I admit that although I love Samuel Kim’s arrangements, most of them do not fit to be in the films themselves because they feel too much like trailer music. For example, the main theme version from the TROS trailer is based on a four-chord sequence, a trait that’s very un-Williams but common in more modern cinematic music.

But even if the music doesn’t feel Williams, I can’t deny that your rescore is goosebump-inducing. I would have loved if that scene in the film had a more emotional soundtrack like the one you used. The space battle in general deserved more attention and screentime.

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#1348490
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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I mentioned it already in the general thread, but besides obvious suggestions like Duel of the Fates or Across the stars, I have a less-known prequel theme in mind, one that is prominent in the second half of ROTS. It’s a Sith motif named “Mystery of the Sith” also known as the second half of Padmé’s Ruminations. It has early hints to the “Anthem of Evil” theme if you listen it closely.

TROS really should serve as a culmination of the saga in all its aspects, including the score.

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#1348221
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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I could go with either ship. Vader’s TIE Advanced works better as fanservice, but I’ve always been fond of the Lambda shuttle. Arguably, if we bring continuity issues and general geekness to the table, it’s equally nonsensical to pretend a ship survived the Death Star explosion and remain functional after 30 years of wear, be it the shuttle or Vader’s TIE. The minor advantage the shuttle has over the TIE is that it appeared prominently in ROTJ and one was glimpsed when Rey climbed the DS structure.

I don’t know what you guys think but for me, it’s easier to forgive Vader’s TIE being somewhere in the DS wreckage, than Luke’s fighter magically regenerating its missing wing when being lifted out of the water.

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#1348033
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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poppasketti said:

Here’s some Alts for the Tie replacement:
https://vimeo.com/421655865
pw: fanedit

Lol!

Jokes aside, Vader’s TIE Advanced is a genuinely good option. It makes sense in-universe, and though it’s kind of fanservice-y, it feels like a nice payoff having that TIE and the X-Wing it chased all those films ago, now side-by-side. George Lucas would be proud of that “rhyme”.

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#1348026
Topic
Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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I guess most of us are not that much of sticking to the wider canon when making fan-edits or suggesting ideas (personally, I prefer to acknowledge TCW, if anything) but the Jedi Temple/Imperial Palace bit is actually one of my favorite elements of the new canon, and the idea the Jedi chose Coruscant to build their Temple to suppress the power of an ancient Sith shrine is pretty compelling besides opens a wide can of possibilities.

Either way, I believe you’re developing a genuinely great idea, jonh. It would be awesome to have this opening. And even if it’s not plausible in the end, Coruscant would act as a pretty background for the First Order board meeting, instead of a random location in space. That’d be a funny little shout out to the unproduced “Duel of the Fates” and what it could have been.

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#1348013
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The Force Awakens - Ridley's Edit
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I think the best idea to retroactively tie the sequel trilogy films together is by doing it the subtle way. For example, the brief Palpatine hints that are scattered across the Rekindled edit of TLJ (like his silhouette at the cave scene, his laugh during Luke’s flashback, or Snoke’s eyes turning yellow after he’s mortally wounded), that culminate in Palps’ “find me” at the end.

For example, the vision in TFA would be a great part to put a hint of Palpatine’s involvement, like the shot where young Rey watches Ochi’s ship depart Jakku.

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#1348011
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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“Sith Eternal” is a name I can live with. It explicitly states the Sith nature of the faction, bringing the story of the saga full circle (back to the essential Jedi-Sith conflict) and it doesn’t recycle either Empire or Order. But I think maybe some dialogue tweaking could serve to further establish that the First Order is either subservient to, or merged with, the Sith Eternal/Final Order. The distinction between the two organisations is not very clear when taking only the film as reference.

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#1347774
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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poppasketti said:

Also also, for the Mustafar establishing shots, if we come up with a sequence that Hal is happy with, adding 1-2 shots, I can probably add the ties to whichever shots are chosen. Rather than mock-up so many different shots with ties though, I was thinking to wait until a sequence is cut that everyone’s on board with. The only shot that would be of questionable difficulty is the first RO shot going through the clouds, but if that cuts well with the others leading to Kylo on the ground we can try to make that work!

I think the particular shots worth a try (in sequence) are:

  • TIE Fighters/Troop transports leaving the Star Destroyer. Maybe reverting the trajectory of the TIEs for that TFA shot of Kylo’s destroyer just before Poe’s torture here
  • TIEs approaching Vader’s Castle in the first Rogue One establishing shot.
  • Or… TIEs flying past the castle when seen from behind (all shots with Krennic’s shuttle erased). The lava environment is less prominent in the second establishing shot so that might sell the transition to woodland better.

Then the sequence would lead to the already existing TIEs flying over the forest. Then to the actual fight seen in the movie.

The only continuity nitpick against it is that TIEs are nowhere to be found during the actual slaughter scene. Maybe adding some TIE flyby sounds and green lasers in the distance could help?

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#1347514
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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Hal 9000 said:

I imagine that feeling strange and disjointed. 😕

Unrelated: can I ask for a single volunteer to send me a recording to be able to add an extremely subtle nod to ROTJ? The line read is, “Die, dickheads!”

Google it if you don’t know what I mean.

Lol I understood that reference.

With regards to Mustafar, I guess the the simpler the better. There’s just not enough existing dialogue, even re-purposed lines, to provide context for that scene to fully work as an opening. The best course of action right now would be, as most people suggested pages earlier, to have a continuous tracking of the TIE Fighters lead us to the battle. First the TIEs and Destroyer in space, then the flyby over the woods (it would be great if some VFX addition could allow for the TIEs to fly past Vader’s Castle, just to make the planet identifiable as Mustafar before moving on to the woodland) and then Kylo’s slaughter of the cultists (and Palpatine’s “find me”).

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#1347467
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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Yeah I have polarized thoughts about the novelization. It feels like Lucasfilm cannot make up its mind even after the saga is wrapped up. The same way TROS felt like a retcon of TLJ prompted by backlash, the TROS novelization retcons controversial stuff established in the very same movie it adapted. Like Rey’s dad not being Palpatine’s biological offspring but a rogue clone of him. Or Ben and Rey’s kiss not being romantic.

On the other hand, the novel confirms stuff that we really should implement or make clearer in any fan-edit of this film, like the fact Palpatine transferred his essence to a clone, but that body is not viable enough to fully support his power (basically, “more than a clone, less than a man”).