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#1506853
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The Starlight Project Part 2: The Last Jedi (WIP)
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I’m really digging this crawl as it helps address a number of issues.

  • Giving the New Republic an active role, while its destruction in the original was treated as little more than an afterthought.
  • Why the flagship, the support ships and the bombing fleet were nowhere to be seen in TFA.
  • It could help explain why the rebel fleet was so constrained by hyperfuel in the first place - constantly running from the FO has ran their fuel reserves almost dry.
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#1504951
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Cassian Andor - Live-Action Series
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I’m glad the first three episodes premiered at once because they feel like three acts of a miniarc or one long pilot episode. Taken by themselves the first two feel incredibly slow-paced, but the exciting 3rd episode rewards the viewer’s patience.

It feels and looks so different compared to other Star Wars shows and movies but in a good way. For once I’m happy to be looking forward to the actual story and development rather than thinking about what sorts of fan service we’ll see. The darker and more mature tone quickly sets it apart from other stuff…is this the first time we see a brothel called by that name, or hear the word “sh*t” uttered onscreen in a SW live action product?

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#1486894
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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My man Quinlan Vos is not only alive but also actively helping the Jedi relocating effort. Such a cool detail.

I’m glad they didn’t pull their punches with the violence on this one. The bisected stormtrooper, Vader honoring his tradition of killing random kids, Obi-Wan injured by fire, etc. Only thing I was left wanting was the loadlifter droid wrecking some stormtrooper’s head with that hammer 😄

Also liked that they sort of addressed how Leia could have memories of her mother.

Vader felt like a horror movie monster, in a good way.

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#1486236
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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I’m enjoying it a lot. Found the first episode to be a lot better than the second one, but I remain hooked to the story. At least for the time being, it looks it’s going to tie the prequel and original trilogies more organically than I expected, but we’ll have to wait and see.

Pros

  • Ewan’s doing great as Obi-Wan, no doubt helped by the better character direction and dialogues he is provided with. I really like how he feels at midpoint between his ROTS portrayal and some aspects of Alec Guinness’s beloved turn.
  • The young actress playing Leia does a phenomenal job. I had no trouble believing she’ll grow up to become a rebellious Carrie Fisher. She also embodies the similar traits of Padmé really well.
  • I’m really onboard with the premise of pairing Obi-Wan and Leia. It makes Obi-Wan’s reaction to her plea in A New Hope more meaningful in hindsight. Also fixes the inconsistency on how would Leia know his ‘Ben’ nickname.
  • Order 66 flashbacks from new perspectives are always welcome. Does somebody know if they finally used actual people to play the clones rather than CGI?
  • Temuera’s cameo as a clone trooper-turned-beggar was heartwrenching.
  • A minor detail but I’m so glad they fixed the Grand Inquisitor’s eyes.

Mixed

  • John Williams’s Obi-Wan theme is great as usual, but the rest of the music doesn’t stand out that much for the moment (The Mandalorian and Book of Boba’s scores had me hooked a lot sooner).

Cons and/or headscratchers

  • The production aspects are hit and miss. The costume and set design ranges from stunning (Alderaan, Daiyu) to awkward (the Inquisitors). The action and stuntwork also leaves a bit to be desired (Reva’s parkour being the worst offender).
  • In the second episode, why are they so fixed on suggesting the Grand Inquisitor is dead? Seems pointless knowing he’s still around for Rebels and if they really killed him off I doubt the showrunners and canon consultants would let such an oversight to pass.
  • Didn’t really grasp why would Kumail Nanjiani’s character decide to help Obi-Wan so soon, wish there was more context to his motivations.
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#1474891
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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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I’m on the team that favors nuanced takes on the classic Star Wars elements. IG-11 in The Mandalorian should by all accounts just been a cold, ruthless and effective bounty droid based on what we know about IG-88, but they took the time to deconstruct the archetype and deliver an engaging arc for him tale while delving into topics such as the nature vs nurture debate.

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#1472011
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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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Lol that spin was just campy in a good sense, it fit the rest of the chapter.

I don’t know if I can really say anything that hasn’t been said by now. Was a solid finale for the series, entertaining even if not great (as is my opinion above the series overall).

I’m pretty sure there were corporate constraints to bring Din and Grogu back together as soon as possible. As much as I love the duo, I was pretty pumped to see how Din would act in the absence of his newfound moral compass, i.e. more scenes like the butchery fight in the cold open of Chapter 5. I also concur it’s going to be a pretty awkward experience to bingewatch The Mandalorian without throwing BOBF in.

In retrospect I find it so easy to imagine ways to improve the show that it ends up being frustrating on how Rodriguez or Favreau didn’t think of them. It’s clear the series wasn´t one of the priorities for Lucasfilm which is a shame.

The series could have been fixed so easily by establishing Cad Bane earlier, maybe at the end of the third episode when we see the Pyke forces land on Mos Espa. Then have Bane and Fett meet in an extra episode set right before the finale, and we sould see flashbacks of Cad mentoring Boba as a teenager and having a talk about Jango. Maybe show some past incident that led to Boba’s resentment about how other people use bounty hunters, as he told Fennec in chapter 4.

BUT i found Cad Bane’s death to be necessary. Boba had to be the one that killed him. But his defeat would have held so much more weight if we saw their prior interactions. We literally saw once when Boba paid a favor to Bane in prison (TCW) and all we’ve seen of Bane’s passing of the torch to Boba was a cancelled arc and a couple of animatics.

I wish Mando’s visit to Luke’s temple had been kept offscreen, and saved for the first couple of episodes of The Mandalorian S3. Or have the epilogue/post credits scene for the finale be Mando flying his starship to Luke’s planet, and we see Luke and Grogu from a distance (much like a shot of the actual chapter 6). That way it would have been far more open-ended, hype-inducing, and less insulting to the ending of Mandalorian S2.

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#1470344
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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CarboniteSolo said:

Remember this is only 6 episodes

Well Book of Boba is 7 episodes long and half the galaxy has showed up in that span 😄

I will be left happy with at least hearing Liam Neeson’s voice as Qui-Gon. My nerdier side wishes we get to see Clone Wars flashbacks, maybe including Commander Cody or even Obi-Wan’s old flame Duchess Satine.

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#1470336
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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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regularjoe said:

My concern with Cad Bane is that they pull a Walking Dead with him where they introduce a heavy into one part of the franchise and then kill him off in the next episode. Even though I am not a TCW fan it would be a real slap in the face to that part of the fanbase if they did that…and the way things are going I can see that happening.

They sure are smart enough to not do that. I predict he’ll face off with Boba in the finale but will survive. Cad Bane could very well serve as an overarching villain if there’s a season 2. He has ties to both Boba and Fennec that go way back (TCW and Bad Batch series).

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#1470322
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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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ZkinandBonez said:

Slight canon break, so small in fact that I don’t really care, but figured I’d mention it either way. Yoda’s lightsaber was technically smelted down by Mas Amedda in a ritual show in the first issue of the Darth Vader comic by Charles Soule, but I suppose Yoda could have made a replacement during his years in exile. Or I suppose there could have been other small lightsabers found at the Jedi temple.

The saber’s appearance in the comic was itself a retcon. Originally it was established by a reference guide that Yoda kept his lightsaber at his Dagobah hut, then came the comic and had the saber destroyed by Mas Amedda. I think one of the guys from the Story Group suggested that Yoda had multiple sabers or the one Amedda burned was a fake.

I really liked the episode and the fan-service did it for me. The only thing detracting from it was that again Boba felt like an extra in his own show. It was OK to switch the focus to Din for one episode that acted as an interlude of sorts. But two back-to-back episodes? I hope it doesn’t end up acting in detriment of the story, cause I feel Boba’s personal stakes are a bit weak at this point considering we’ve got one chapter left. I hope they can handle a satisfying climax and not lose track of Boba’s story. After I watched this I thought to myself “They’re really doing a second season. No way Boba only was in for 5 sevenths of his own show”.

Back to the stuff I liked.

The ROTS flashback left me agaze. Seeing the Jedi face the 501st clone troopers kind of made me wish the actual ROTS film focused more in the Jedi Purge itself and had more scenes set during the fall of the Temple.

The soundtrack for this chapter was amazing. Cobb Vanth’s theme was back and the Grogu training scenes featured some nice mixes of the classical Force theme, Ludwig Goransson’s “Force theme”, Grogu’s theme and Luke’s new theme.

The CG for Luke was sooo much cleaner, thank the Force.

I kind of expected Cobb Vanth and Luke (though that didn’t diminish my enjoyment of their appearances) but I was truly speechless when I got to see Ahsoka, and almost fell off my chair when I recognized Cad Bane. I’m still getting accustomed to his live-action design but I’m glad they kept Corey Burton to perform his voice.

I’m very intrigued by the Ahsoka-Luke interactions. When and where did their first meeting occur? What’s their consensus on Anakin Skywalker? Will Luke show up in the Ahsoka miniseries?

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#1469700
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Community Focus Thread 1: The Phantom Menace
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That’s an impressive and very insightful OP, thanks for your dedication!

I got introduced to Star Wars franchise in the chronological order and in Latin Spanish dub. That always influenced my view on the prequels on 2 main aspects:

  • Much like EddieDean said, much of the character introductions, worldbuilding and perceived coincidences seem far less contrived when the trilogy is viewed as the actual first set of films instead of prequels. On the other hand, TPM doesn’t delve that much into what the Force is, and it’s unfortunate the earliest explanation for it involves the midichlorians.
  • Some of the dialogues and particularly most of the line delivery and voices are far less obnoxious in the dub (the improvement is pretty noticeable with Hayden Christensen’s dialogue in the later two films). So for me the dialogue issues were hardly relevant until I saw the movies in their original language.

This influenced on me never having strong feelings against the prequel trilogy and despite their flaws I consider them enjoyable movies, of course never reaching the OT’s level.

I’d probably post a more thorough review when I have more time, but here are a couple of abridged thoughts about TPM.

  • I do find Jar Jar annoying, but not irredeemably hateful. I’d be interested in a fan-edit that redubs him. On the other hand I admit to liking Boss Nass in a guilty pleasure way.
  • Overall this film looks much more naturalistic and pleasant to the eye than the other prequels.
  • I do think TPM benefits from going immediatly from meeting Jar Jar to the arrival on Theed, but I’d hate to lose the visuals of Otoh Gunga. At least the Submarine breaking down and the second pair of fish could be excised seamlessly.
  • I’ve never had problems with the droid dialogue either on this film, the later prequels or TCW. I find them funny.
  • The identity of Darth Sidious should be better concealed in his holographic appearances, like having his face or voice distorted. We don’t need the explicit Senate references or anything that links him too soon to Palpatine other than the funeral shot. This would benefit the audience for both the chronological and release viewing orders.
  • Maul was severely underused, but I don’t see a way to remedy this sticking only to TPM.
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#1469283
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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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ZkinandBonez said:

I also think it’s possible that Rodriguez isn’t used to directing on a TV budget and/or schedule, though at the same time isn’t he known for being a quick and cheap director? I don’t really know his work all that well, but based on his episode of The Mandalorian I get the impression that he’s more of a “fix it in post” guy, and while this might work for movies like Sin City or Alita it can cause a lot of trouble on TV series, especially since the volume require extensive pre-production work, the reverse of most movies these days.

Rodriguez is sort of a Swiss army knife, besides producing and directing his films he also uses to perform camerawork, editing, and oversees the score, sound design and visual effects. So yeah he puts most of his effort in post production. He clearly hasn’t performed all of those tasks for BOBF, but I wonder what grade of imput does he have into them.

Either way, BOBF seems to be, at least for season one, a smaller-scale adventure, so it’s not that surprising most of Lucasfilm’s attention and effects budget is set on limited events like Obi-Wan or Ahsoka.

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#1469274
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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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Man, Bryce Dallas has for sure come a long way since her first Mando episode. She already upped her game for her S2 episode and now is giving us a contender for the best episode of BOBF.

Sirius said:

It even seems like a high budget episode, while all of the first four episodes of BOBF seemed to have a really low budget, with pour effects and bad action scenes.

I think that has mostly to do with the directing and stylistic choices. Bryce directed Chapter 5 and it shows. The second episode had also solid direction and cinematography. On the other side, Rodriguez’s episodes looked the most simplistic and “cheap” both in choreography and camerawork, they also have the most notorious goofs.
Also this is the first time we left Tatooine in this show. Tatooine has typically been brought to life with enhanced practical effects and sets, while the showrunners likely secured part of their CG/Volume budget to convincingly depict this place.

Seeing Mandalore and the Great Purge onscreen shocked me. Also I can’t believe we saw the destruction of Tipoca City and now Sundari in the span of less than a year. Truly the Empire was no good for fan-favorite cities with weird yet iconic designs. The scene with the KX droids and probes finishing off the survivors of the nuking was shiver-inducing and looked as it if were pulled straight from Terminator (in the good sense).

I had a grin from ear-to-ear the entire time they repaired and flew the N-1 starfighter, one of my favorite ship designs ever. And I fell in love with the BD unit brought into live action.

I’m really looking forward to seeing Mando and Grogu’s reunion, but I also hope Mando’s own arc doesn’t detract too much from Boba’s story, considering there are only two chapters left.

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#1468812
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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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With the bacta treatments done don’t think there will be any more extensive flashbacks, or they will change the narrative framing device for them. If they want to depict how Boba knew Cobb Vanth got his armor, they could have Boba meet Cobb in present time and then have a short flashback.

I also think Boba has some kind of retrograde amnesia from being hit on the head by a Jawa and the overall stressful situation he found himself into.

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#1468049
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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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Well that was a nice comeback for the show after the middling chapter 3. This was much more engaging and the direction and cinematography were a lot more competent. Unfortunately it seems Robert Rodriguez directed three episodes so there’s one left among the upcoming three.

Chapter 4 is my second favorite, after 2. First of all I loved Fennec Shand getting both more character development and action scenes this time around.

I was surprised the flashbacks caught up so soon with the timeline of The Mandalorian.

I liked the little references to the Clone Wars series (the ratcatcher droid and the four-legged Gonk droid).

The mods and their retro aesthetic felt less jarring this time. Maybe cause their scene was set at nighttime.

The little Rancor moment at the Godfather-like meeting was great!

I’m thrilled by the possible return of Din Djarin, and it would be such a wasted opportunity if they didn’t bring Bossk into the mix. They could even set a sort of arc for Black Krrsantan, as they established a little backstory for him and his hatred for Trandoshans. I hope as well any surviving members of the Tusken tribe come back for the finale.

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#1465936
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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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regularjoe said:

Mrebo said:

A very good episode. I was almost giddy seeing the Hutts. The CGI has come along enough and it not being Jabba helps immensely. I still don’t like the lame minor characters who try to be funny, like at the mayor’s office, but more concerning Max Rebo’s trunk is too thin, isn’t it?

I am amazed that with the money and tech that Lucasfilm/Disney has at its disposal that so many of the casually seen aliens look like borderline rubber masks.
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets had more convincing looking aliens!

I wish they touched them up a bit with CGI, if only for allowing some smoother motion. It’s nice to recall the simpler OT aesthetic but sometimes the alien characters act so unexpressive that it feels jarring, reminds me of the poor lip-syncing of the Neimoidians back in the prequels.

On the other hand some of the animatronic work they’ve pulled off is amazing, such as the Frog lady in Mando or the Ithorian mayor in this series.

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#1465212
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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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Did someone else notice that the second half of the end credits theme (From 1:48 onwards) features a melody that’s suspiciously similar to the Crimson Dawn theme from Solo?

I’ve also found out that the parkour-ninja guys kind of resemble some Crimson Dawn thugs seen in recent comics.

Could they (and maybe Qi’ra) turn out to be the main antagonists for the season?