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#1366076
Topic
The <strong>Original Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Ed Slushie said:

Has anyone thought about trying ways to make Endor more visually interesting? I know George Lucas said he hated how every alien planet in the OT looked like a part of Earth, so I feel like if he had had the resources at the time, he might have made it look more like Felucia with the alien plant life. It would be really hard to make something that consistently CG-heavy, but some color correction and changes to establishing shots would probably be enough to give the impression that it’s not just a regular forest.

IlFanEditore’s ROTJ edit color-corrected the Endor scenes to make it look more lush and bright. That’s a good starting point.

Maybe someone could add some bioluminiscent flora to the night scenes in the Endor village? That would make it more alien, more deserving of the “sanctuary moon” adjetive, and less Anywhere, California.

Ajan Kloss from Episode 9 is a worse offender for me in that regard, though.

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#1365969
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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kewlfish said:

Hello all, I’ve been on a trip so I haven’t had the chance to work on the Crackle saber but I just returned home a couple days ago and have gotten back to work on it. Here is a very, very early test on Rey vs Kylo in the Force Dyad Lightsaber fight (so early that the entire scene isn’t finished yet lol) but I just wanted to update y’all on progress.

https://vimeo.com/442558780
pw - fanedit

As always, any issues that stick out to y’all, let me know. This is a super early test though so I haven’t really applied any polish to it yet.

This looks magnificent, dude! keep it up!

Correct me if I’m wrong, but we haven’t yet heard Hal’s sound mixing for Rey’s crackly saber, haven’t we?

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#1365767
Topic
My Star Wars Saga Episodes 1-6 Edits (2/6 available, now with videos) (WIP)
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As a concept, I’m totally on board with it 😄
I think Palpatine’s lines are still a tad too low (though easy to understand 😃 ). The rotoscoping for the medical droid is nice but to me it looks a bit clear it’s a slowed down shot.

The audio is good for me. The one transition that felt a bit strange was from Padmé’s gasping to Palpatine’s weird breath thing, perhaps because of there’s a sudden increase in volume at that point.

Other than that, this was surprisingly solid! Nice job!

PD: Here’s a cleaner version of that same Vader scream, it’s the french dub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfGkPvfpjVY

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#1365720
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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Swapping the “Somehow Palpatine returned” by the 16-hours timer seems like exchanging an evil for another evil :S.

I like the first part of your video, though, when Rose, Beumont and Poe listen to the broadcast. But the beginning of the actual briefing should just be either a bunch of unintelligible murmuring or a cold silence, right until Rose breaks it with ‘Wait, Do we believe this?’.

JakeRyan17 said:
I’ll admit that I’m not as familiar with those edits as I’ve not been able to watch them. I remember reading through the list of Changes and didn’t notice anything that set it up that much, but maybe there’s something in the completed film that I haven’t seen.

Poppasketti’s TLJ ending includes Kylo Ren listening and reacting to Palpatine’s voice coming through the radio on Crait.

There’s also Palp’s laugh in the flashback when Luke considers killing Ben, and some foreshadowing for Rey Palpatine.

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#1365599
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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Hal 9000 said:

Right. It’d be good to retain a name drop of Palpatine in some way, as that’s a very filmmaking thing to do. He hasn’t been referred to as Palpatine outside of the prequels. Even so, his name is used in ways one can easily infer who he is several times before it becomes essential to understand who the name refers to.

Perhaps Poe could say “Palpatine’s planning his revenge” during the briefing. He isn’t onscreen when he says the original phrase IIRC.

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#1365269
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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idir_hh said:

Oh I agree. Personally I’m leaning more towards IIFaneditor’s concept, except I would change the dialogue so that it goes like this.

“what’s the message?”

-holographic/transmission sound-

“At last the work of generations is complete, the day of victory is at hand, the day of sith.
Send the fleet to the galaxy…let it burn.
The Final order begins”
“Yes my lord”

All that transpired regarding the rise and fall of the repulic is addressed as the work of generations. Same reaction shots, more context to the story. Spy plot is teased. Best of ALL, no half arsed introduction from Poe.
A few birds with one stone, if you ask me.

Sounds great on paper! Any option that drops “Somehow Palpatine returned” is a welcome change.

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#1365227
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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The best course of action would be leaving the broadcast out. It doesn’t make any tactical sense for Palpatine to spoil his survival, and the actual message is barely touched upon by the characters. The Resistance members at the briefing, like Rose and Ackbar jr, act and speak like they’ve just heard of Palpatine when it’s supposed to be trending news across the galaxy.

The thing is, Palpatine does send a live transmission boasting about the return of the Sith later in the movie. This happens in the early third act, just after Kijimi is destroyed. This makes the Fortnite broadcast redundant.

I don’t think the broadcast works in TLJ either. The best approach so far would be the one in “Rekindled”: be Palpatine reaching Kylo through the comms and saying “Find me”. It serves as a sequel hook (the original film kind of lacked one) and leads to Kylo’s quest at the beginning of TROS.

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#1363367
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
Time

krausfadr said:

So is the idea that Rey modified Luke’s lightsaber to make it crackle? If so why would she do this? Sounds iffy like people have run out of things to edit on this movie.

The reason why Kylo’s blade appears crackly and serrated is because when Kylo turned it red, the kyber crystal that powered it cracked. It serves as a pretty good visual metaphor of Kylo’s own nature, unstable and volatile.

So, making the Skywalker blade also distorted serves two purposes:

  • continuity fixing. It acknowledges the ending of TLJ, where the lightsaber was split in half. Rey repaired it, but in an imperfect way, leaving the blade unstable as a result. The actual kyber crystal IS seen when Rey holds the pieces of the broken saber. So it’s less of a retcon and more of an actual consequence.
  • storytelling tool. Rey wielding a crackly lightsaber represents her inner conflict and her struggle with the dark side. It mirrors Kylo’s blade, and also serves as a subtle irony when Ben finally claims his grandfather’s weapon, but it’s damaged and imperfect.

The subject of kyber crystals, despite being a well-known staple of Star Wars lore is surprisingly absent from the movies, beingd developed in either The Clone Wars or canon novels. But I think a casual viewer that hasn’t dived into the EU could still associate the new appearance of the saber with the fact it was broken onscreen the previous movie.

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#1363235
Topic
My Star Wars Saga Episodes 1-6 Edits (2/6 available, now with videos) (WIP)
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G&G-Fan said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUunFoQBJsE

Adding something like this to my Return of the Jedi edit, yay or nay?

I don’t think that’s necessary, the scene needs to stay a personal exchange between Anakin and Luke, adding more characters would break the mood of the moment. Unless you make it extremely subtle and short, like a blink-and-you’ll-miss-it shadow.

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#1362064
Topic
Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Prequel references that have been considered:

  • Fortress Vader (from Rogue One) added to the Mustafar minute.
  • Coruscant added in the background before the First Order council scene (suggested by Hal)
  • C-3PO mentioning Padmé or Anakin instead of Rey after having his memory restored.
  • C-3PO mentioning Moraband/Korriban when talking about Exegol (“the place where the Sith hid after the fall of Korriban…”)
  • Hint to the Sith Troopers being clones.
  • Rey’s power explained by a vergence in the Force (suggested for Rey Nobody editions)
  • Sith whispers guide Rey to the Wayfinder (done by Hal)
  • Leia purple saber (done)
  • Green mist added to Palpatine’s surroundings and green Force-draining effect to imply a connection with Nighsisters/Sith magic.
  • (Radical) Turn Ajan Kloss into Naboo (mock-ups done by snooker)
  • Familiar aliens (Twi’leks, etc.) rotoscoped in the background of some scenes as extras (the whole trilogy was lacking in this aspect).

Non-prequel references but rather Canon fixing minor edits

  • Cut “They fly now!” (done)
  • Have Zorii say Poe left her to join the New Republic, instead of the Resistance.
  • Not referring to Endor as the place where the Galactic Civil War ended.

Score edits:

  • Duel of the Fates chanting for the “ritual” moment on Exogol.
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#1361795
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
Time

I believe the music is more emotional and transitions best to the credits the way it is right now, ending with Rey’s theme. That piece of Rebel fanfare that follows doesn’t really scream finale (unless you go with the Falcon crew shot idea), and ends in a somewhat dissonant note.
The center of the epilogue is the end of Rey’s arc. The music should reflect that, and Hal’s current version sounds as appropiate closure.

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#1361752
Topic
My Star Wars Saga Episodes 1-6 Edits (2/6 available, now with videos) (WIP)
Time

In my preference headcanon Anakin takes the form of a visibly aged-up Hayden Christensen, mostly because of my stick-to-continuity approach, but I don’t really like the SE version of Hayden in ROTJ. He looks creepy and detached from the other characters in the scene.

I’d say keep SE Hayden for the moment, but hopefully it won’t be long before we have a seamless, “jonh-level” quality rendering of a Hayden-based Anakin force spirit.

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#1361600
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
Time

Burbin said:

Hal 9000 said:

Although, while a shot LIKE that would be nice, that particular shot doesn’t particularly scream end of movie. Rey doesn’t look emotional either.

I agree, that shot feels too active, it gives off a “time for another adventure!” vive, which is what it originally is, instead of a finale. And Rey loses all the emotion from the “Rey Skywalker” moment.

The chess scene works in a better, more subtle way to show that Rey’s friends travel with her. I much prefer the current, simpler ending. It puts the focus on Rey and the Skywalkers, and ends with just the Falcon riding off into the (binary) sunset. Classic!

+1

Though the Skywalker ghosts watching the Falcon/sunrise as an ending shot is a neat idea!

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#1361598
Topic
My Star Wars Saga Episodes 1-6 Edits (2/6 available, now with videos) (WIP)
Time

In your version, the deleted scene should ideally be placed somewhere before Anakin’s first nightmare. The political stance of the Jedi regarding Palpatine needs to be established early in the film.

When Anakin and Obi-Wan land at Coruscant after the battle, Obi-Wan mentions he’s going to meet with the Council. Maybe the Yoda/Windu/Obi-Wan talk could be inserted there, before or after Grievous arrives on Utapau. You may need a new Jedi Temple establishing shot to add immediately before the deleted scene, this way the musical transitions between scenes would be less jarring.

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#1361512
Topic
My Star Wars Saga Episodes 1-6 Edits (2/6 available, now with videos) (WIP)
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G&G-Fan said:

I’ve made some tweaks to my AOTC edit to fix up some of the transitions and some additional minor changes. In case this wasn’t picked up on before, it’s now available.

I’ve been working on my ROTS edit. I’ve been considering some other minor dialogue trims, added another deleted scene and of course Padme’s new death is still in the works. I’ve been considering adding the deleted scene in which Obi-Wan, Mace and Yoda talk about their suspicions about Palpatine for the same reason others do, to show that the Jedi are onto Palpatine from the beginning, but I haven’t completely decided yet. I’d be interested in hearing input from others.

I happened to stumble upon this video and I’m considering editing this idea into my TPM edit. I like it as it makes the music more unique when it’s reprised in ROTS, and I think it’s very fitting for the scene. What do you guys think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR8IRRm0qAA

A couple months ago I was inspired by the “New canon cut” and gave a try to reinserting the council deleted scene, but I cut Yoda’s last line so he can say it later during hologram briefing scene later in the film. Here, he just (reluctantly) nods.
https://youtu.be/9Qrghd3sK7U

I like that funeral rescore btw!

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#1361331
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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Movies Remastered said:
Was there a conclusion of TIEs having Hyperdrives? I’m constantly getting into arguments online about this as I really don’t like the lightspeed skipping scene but there is also this https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/TIE/sf_space_superiority_fighter

Special forces TIEs do have hyperdrives. It was implied in TFA that this was an upgraded model of TIE fighter, since it had two seats and Finn planned to leave the system on it.

I like this particular scene better with no TIEs entering hyperspace, though!

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#1361067
Topic
Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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Ed Slushie said:

And can somebody make a video explaining this in a less obnoxious way?

Summing it up, they reused the same fight scene twice, but using different angles and adding different VFX to the first one to make it different from the second one (the intended-as-original).

Damn, now I won’t be unable to unsee it :´(

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#1360814
Topic
Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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DarkSpecter5K said:

Here’s an idea, I know jonh said he made a final edit on the Force ghosts guiding Rey in killing Palpatine, but would it be possible to edit Sebastian Shaw from Jedi into it in place of Hayden for a second?

I like Hayden, don’t get me wrong, but I was thinking if Obi-Wan can go back and forth on his age can’t Anakin do it too?

I remember jonh did acknowledge the possibility of featuring Shaw, but dismissed it for the moment because of the lack of decent footage in comparison to Hayden. Shaw could be doable but it would stick out, compared to the almost seamless look of the other Jedi.
Still, he did “age” Hayden’s appearance making him look middle-aged.