Josanael

jkimm said:

Option A please. 🙂

+1

Luka Frik said:

Another small idea to improve the pacing of the movie : I think slightly extending (4-5 seconds) the shot of Kylo Ren lost in thoughts on the Death Star would help with that. In the cinema, the scene with Han Solo didn’t completely land emotionally for me because the movie didn’t let time to breathe from the previous scene to this one. So here’s a quick mock-up (I didn’t increase the frame rate with interpolation) :

https://vimeo.com/433415597
(pw: fanedit)

First version is the extended one (I let the previous scene for you to see if it flows well), second one is the movie version. Any thoughts ?

Wow, this feels really good! Han’s “hey kid” really got me in your version. 😃

IlFanEditore said:

Josanael said:

IlFanEditore said:

IlFanEditore said:

Hal 9000 said:

Hey, thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. It’s probably good you haven’t been following the thread closely, since you can provide a fresher reaction

#2 is all thanks to DominicCobb, btw.

#4 is from poppasketti.

#5 has had some discussion, and the idea is that the dagger is the one whispering to her to nudge her in the right direction. It may not be clear enough to really be viable. I guess we are still indeterminate if it is truly viable to replace the Goonies moment.

I had watched your workprint 1, and it was nice already, even though there were less changes.
Again, I had some things to do in these days so I just read that you released your V2. To me there were no issues like rough cuts or else. The first act has a much better pacing.
I also noticed, but that’s personal, that jonh’s ghosts scene gave me a quite different feel while watching the whole movie. I mean, at first it was only a single scene, but now it really feels like something that should have been there from the stars. It also connects the three trilogies better than anything else (Ben from OT, Anakin from PT, Luke from ST).
I also liked the subtle DOF motive during the Death star duel.

Oh, and about the Dagger. I’ll have to rewatch the scene. At first I didn’t get your intention, but that’s probably because I was trying to notice every change (I’ve watched TROS countless times for that awful edit of mine, like I’m sure many of you have). To enhance your point you could maybe add some whispers as Rey is holding the Dagger in front of the Death Star? It could work with 3PO’s like “Only this blade tells”. Tells. Like, literally.

EDIT I think some parts of the Mustafar sequence could be used. The wide shot with TIEs looks ok to me. The volcanic eruptions look too real-world IMHO, while the shot of stormtroopers getting out of the transport too animated. But I like the landing (not the last frames when the camera inclinates).
That’s such a great work though. There are just very minor issues for me and I’d totally watch and enjoy any edit with those shots.

I just rewatched the Dagger/Death Star scene. You actually added some whispers, right? I didn’t notice them at first, lol 😄

I second the point with the whispers - the idea is great, but I fear that most people would miss it, since the whispers are almost too subtle. 😃

And to add to that: I really liked the “for Skywalker” shouting, but again I could barely here it and had to skip back again to understand what everyone was shouting.

But don’t get me wrong, I absolutely loved the workprint so far - actually it was the first time I could enjoy TROS, so thank you for that, Hal and everyone else working on it. 😃

Having rewatched the scene a number of times, I cannot miss it now. And I think it works, because he addes other whispers while Rey is inside the DS… as if those voices guide her into the Throne Room. You can miss it once, but not all the times 😄

Sure, now that I know of it, I can’t miss it aswell and I’m actually wondering how I could even miss it the first time. 😃 I was just thinking of our hypothetical first time viewer, who maybe won’t watch the fanedit multiple times.

IlFanEditore said:

IlFanEditore said:

Hal 9000 said:

Hey, thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. It’s probably good you haven’t been following the thread closely, since you can provide a fresher reaction

#2 is all thanks to DominicCobb, btw.

#4 is from poppasketti.

#5 has had some discussion, and the idea is that the dagger is the one whispering to her to nudge her in the right direction. It may not be clear enough to really be viable. I guess we are still indeterminate if it is truly viable to replace the Goonies moment.

I had watched your workprint 1, and it was nice already, even though there were less changes.
Again, I had some things to do in these days so I just read that you released your V2. To me there were no issues like rough cuts or else. The first act has a much better pacing.
I also noticed, but that’s personal, that jonh’s ghosts scene gave me a quite different feel while watching the whole movie. I mean, at first it was only a single scene, but now it really feels like something that should have been there from the stars. It also connects the three trilogies better than anything else (Ben from OT, Anakin from PT, Luke from ST).
I also liked the subtle DOF motive during the Death star duel.

Oh, and about the Dagger. I’ll have to rewatch the scene. At first I didn’t get your intention, but that’s probably because I was trying to notice every change (I’ve watched TROS countless times for that awful edit of mine, like I’m sure many of you have). To enhance your point you could maybe add some whispers as Rey is holding the Dagger in front of the Death Star? It could work with 3PO’s like “Only this blade tells”. Tells. Like, literally.

EDIT I think some parts of the Mustafar sequence could be used. The wide shot with TIEs looks ok to me. The volcanic eruptions look too real-world IMHO, while the shot of stormtroopers getting out of the transport too animated. But I like the landing (not the last frames when the camera inclinates).
That’s such a great work though. There are just very minor issues for me and I’d totally watch and enjoy any edit with those shots.

I just rewatched the Dagger/Death Star scene. You actually added some whispers, right? I didn’t notice them at first, lol 😄

I second the point with the whispers - the idea is great, but I fear that most people would miss it, since the whispers are almost too subtle. 😃

And to add to that: I really liked the “for Skywalker” shouting, but again I could barely here it and had to skip back again to understand what everyone was shouting.

But don’t get me wrong, I absolutely loved the workprint so far - actually it was the first time I could enjoy TROS, so thank you for that, Hal and everyone else working on it. 😃

szopman said:

HAL, are you planning maybe to do something with the Fleet in this edit? Like, make it not being planet destroying. Or change it into an old sith Fleet of something?

And If I understand correctly, you are gonna keep the kiss moment, arent you?

Regarding the planet destroying power of the fleet: I think cutting it should be possible since the only demonstration of the power happens on Kijimi, right? Maybe the fleet has the power to destroy whole cities, but not whole planets, so only the last shot of the exploding planet would need to be cut.

And of course the following dialoge mentions the new power of the fleet. One solution might be to replace the word “planet” in Poe’s sentence, that every ship on the fleet “… has planet-killing powers” with maybe “city”? Or cut the sentence completely, but that might be hard to pull off, since the dialoge jumps so fast between the characters.

The following radio broadcast from the First Order should work nonetheless, because if the First Order has a whole fleet even with city destroying powers it might not be too far off to claim the end of the Resistance. But the payoff would be, that they don’t have a fleet full of little death stars, which in my opinion was pretty ridiculous to begin with.