I’ve upped my latest intro reel for ESB to the Spleen, if anyone’s interested. Special love to Bingowings for his guiding hand on this one.
Wow! That’s terrific - the Blu-ray is really quite disappointing, so a proper film scan is most welcome.
Try muxing to an m2ts instead (tsMuxer is the easy option here). But be warned, it’ll be sluggish as heck - Premiere doesn’t handle h.264 all that well. You’d be better off converting to lossless (e.g. Lagarith) for anything serious.
It’s still reasonably well-seeded on MySpleen. I can chip in too if I know you’re heading that way!
Yes, you should certainly share it under your own name - it’s just a question of being clear where this is coming from.
tommodore64 said:
The project was announced 2 months ago but sadly no one else was involved.
In which case it really isn’t accurate (or polite) to call it an Alien Appendix team release.
Don’t get me wrong - your efforts to pull this stuff together should be encouraged (goodness knows I don’t have the time any more myself). But to claim those names without even mentioning your plans to one of the original team members (meedermow, klokwerk, triffid or me) isn’t really on - it’s not as if we were hard to find.
Release Group: Alien Appendix Team
Interesting - were any of the other original team members contacted/involved in this? It’s certainly news to me.
Long time reader, first time poster. Take me with you!
The original Sorcerer is a supremely rewarding film, and I’ve only ever been aware of the ‘Wages of Fear’ cut as a sort of footnote in its release history - it’s a little baffling to hear it seriously discussed as a preferable option.
Anyway, I do have in mind to give the film (original cut, of course) a bit of a do-over in terms of the subtitles, original audio, possibly colour too. I need to get my hands on the laserdisc.
In the meantime, if anyone else is planning a Sorcerer project and wants to include the trailer, help yourself to my recut:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BDbIzovuos
(La Rabbia certainly did when they grabbed it to include on the French BD!)
Ronster said:
it is not a good first exposure to the film as you would not understand what is going on without seeing the theatrical film first. Fury Road is no different in that respect.
Of course you would - it’s a primarily visual film by design. Miller famously edited the first two movies as if they were silent, believing that the visual rhythms would cue the audiences in to the (very simple) relationships and motives.
Would putting “Beyond Thunderdome” in Black & White and no dialogue with only music improve this film?
Thunderdome is the most dialogue-heavy of the four, and some decent material would certainly be lost if the speech were taken out, so perhaps not improved; comprehensible, though? Definitely.
I am just saying that it is an alternative and I would not be surprised if there are mixed feelings on it after people see this version; and it also does not seem to differentiate itself in terms of different footage as in it is very much the same cut in Black and white with no dialogue.
And no-one ever suggested it would be anything else. Perhaps ‘people’ can judge when they’ve actually seen it and understood what Miller was getting at.
It’s also George Miller’s preferred version, which some people might consider giving its due.
I got my first 5.1 system (the splendid Videologic Digitheater DTS) 13 years ago and the DAD SE was the first disc I tried out on it. I can still remember how awesome that flying bullet in the gunbarrel sequence was.
Yes. That’s my channel 😃
Edit: And thanks!
Edit 2: If you were talking to me…
Indeed! We might be able to do something about the dimensional spillage - see my PM.
I’ve just upped the intro for Star Wars to MS if you want to give it a whirl. It’s full BD quality so around 5GB, but it’s freeleech on there right now…
So in effect you’re cutting the women out of the film? Please tell me Sally Hawkins survives (don’t worry, I don’t think she gets to say very much as it is).
A while back I posted in the weird childhood memories thread about seeing the 1982 double bill and thinking that Empire had some sort of alternate title sequence (with portraits of the characters and a more relaxed theme tune).
I’ve since realised that it was probably this teaser for RotJ, shown between the two films:
http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/40979/a-rare-star-wars-revenge-of-the-jedi-teaser-has-resurfaced
Anyway, I’m trying to contact an admin at MySpleen so we’ll see how that goes. It’ll be nice to get some feedback on my little efforts.
Take a look at this thread from 2012:
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/1977-UK-theatre-intro-reconstruction/id/14490
That project’s come on a little since I last posted there - I’ve done UK intros for all three OT films now.
I’d be pleased to get them out there, but still not sure of a distribution method that will work for this kind of stuff - Youtube will probably have issue with the assorted music and audio, and ESB includes Black Angel so the sharing rights are a bit suspect anyway.
Would MySpleen be a route worth trying?
Looks like Machine, or a close relative.
Their site lists these two addresses:
The blog goes up to March this year so presumably they’re still in business.
The quick shots from 2:11 to 2:13, and then 3:25 are just different views of what we’re already looking at (or about to look at), and they don’t vary in size or angle enough to create a sense of space and continuity. Intercutting with more shots of Brett might work, but I’d suggest dropping those 5-frame snippets of jelly-covered jaws - it’s like we’ve suddenly slipped into stop motion!
I have to say I do like the cut at 2:18 as it’s terrifically matched, though counter to the editing rhythm of the rest of the film (Scott and Rawlings were far too restrained for such flamboyance!)
Glad to see this up and running again. You’ve made some great editing choices in the Brett scene, but it does suffer from the ‘more is less’ issue - some of the shots are just plain clunky because they’re coverage for moments that were ultimately presented in different ways. They clearly aren’t intended to be used adjacently (perhaps reordering the shots might help here?)
Does anyone know anything about the odd little music cue that plays on the alternate audio track from the 1999 DVD when Dallas opens the mother door after the breakfast scene?
Wow, that really is strange isn’t it? Sounds like a mistake, or a leftover from some temp music. I’m pretty sure it isn’t part of the Goldsmith score, but it’s too brief to be sure.
The intermission cards are great but, as others have said, don’t really belong in the film. Perhaps they could be released as extras at some point.
Jan diagnosed the problem with Encore four years ago 😃
On x264bluray.com they say that Adobe Encore CS5 has issues with BD compatible streams if --open-gop is enabled, which it is in this case. I don’t know if this applies to all versions of the software or if they fixed it, but as we’re talking about Adobe here, the issue is probably still present.
It sounds likely that a more compatible stream could be encoded with different x264 settings, but aside from that the aforementioned bait ‘n’ switch method should do the trick.
IV-VII don’t just start in space; more specifically they all start with Star Destroyers. It’s an interesting choice to start each story focusing on the bad guys’ activities.