JohnGreenArt

Covenant said:

JohnGreenArt said:

If he's watched the prequels then none of the big surprises will be surprises in ESB, so I'm not sure the movie will have the same impact it did on those who saw the originals when they first came out. If you've seen Episodes I-III, you've pretty much been spoiled for ESB.

But it is still a great movie!

 

I totally disagree...

 

What made Empire such an amazing movie was the direction, the less hokey script, and the sheer emotional atmosphere of it.

The Skywalker/Vader *reveal* was pretty much leaked before the film ever saw the light of day.

What made Empire such a success was exactly what made the prequels such disasters... Empire treated it's audience like they had intelligence and a modicum of taste and understanding. It's become a little cliche recently, but Empire's success was in it's darkness. Life doesn't always work out like you want it to...

 

;' )

 

 

In what way were you disagreeing with my post? I stated the surprises in ESB won't be surprises for someone who's seen the prequels, then said it's still a great movie (implying it's *not* just the surprises that makes it a great film.)

Regardless of how wonderful the film is, it's impossible to put the "Vader's your father, Leia's your sister, and Yoda's the little green man" cats back in their respective bags. Unless you haven't seen the prequels or have been living in a cave for the past 25 years. I saw the movies when they were originally in theaters, so those things were surprises to me. Things didn't get leaked on the World Wide Web back then. Sure, if you worked for Kenner or were a buyer for Toys R Us you knew who Yoda was because that was the label on the action figure that was in production. But if David Prowse thought the dialog they were going to have James Earl Jones dub over him was "Obi-Wan killed your father" and he didn't hear the real line until opening night, I think they kept that a pretty good secret, from most people anyway.

I've known people who can't enjoy a movie, no matter how good it is, if they already know what's going to happen (these are the same sort of people that won't watch a movie or read a book more than once. They have this "been there, done that" attitude about it). That's an extreme, of course, and I'm not implying the original poster is one of those kinds of people, but I know today's audiences can be obssessed with trailers that reveal too much or hearing spoilers, like not wanting to know what happens in the new Dark Knight movie because they don't want any surprises ruined (can anyone imagine what the ESB trailer would've been like if it had the "No... I am your father" bit in it?).

I'm not saying knowing spoilers in advance makes ESB a bad movie, not at all, just that it's a different viewing experience for any audience when before the movie even starts they already know something about the characters when they're not *supposed* to know about it until it's revealed within the film itself, as the filmmakers originally intended.

And did you just insinuate ANH is "hokey"?! :P

topdawg193 said:

With regards to colouring the inside of the AT-AT cockpit red, perhaps it would be better if only the inside of the window was slightly coloured red?

I was always under the impression the glass in the window was red, or a red light was being projected out of it, not so much that the entire cockpit was lit red. I like the idea of subtly adding red to the windows, but not drowning the interior in red light.

As for prequel vehicles, I'd rather not see any Clone War tanks or ground vehicles, but a couple of dropships seen way in the distance wouldn't be that bad. But then, I did always like the idea that they had to land the AT-ATs REALLY far away.

Ripplin said:

classicrock1169 said:

Covenant said:

classicrock1169 said:

So I decided to watch Adywan's edition first. :) It was great looked very great very clear the lasers were very defined I enjoyed it very much. Thanks Adywan I can't wait till the Empire Strikes Back I might even hold off watching ESB all together (I have never seen it before) till your version comes out even though I have already bought the 2 dvd set.

 

Just so you know... generally speaking... Empire is thought to be THE best of the entire saga...

 

Generally speaking...

 

;' )

So do you think I should wait till adywan releases his version or should I just go ahead and watch the version I have. I might be expecting to much if I don't what do you think.

Even in SE form, ESB is the least messed up of the three. Even Adywan has said it is already a nearly perfect movie (which it is) and his edit will be much more cosmetic than Star Wars was. So, by all means, DON'T WAIT! ;) You'll kick yourself if you do.

If he's watched the prequels then none of the big surprises will be surprises in ESB, so I'm not sure the movie will have the same impact it did on those who saw the originals when they first came out. If you've seen Episodes I-III, you've pretty much been spoiled for ESB.

But it is still a great movie!

vbangle said:

JohnGreenArt said:

But to rip a bluray disc and convert it to HD-dvd means you'll have to buy the bluray disc.

 

Right. Sure. You bet.

I know Adywan said he wasn't going to bother with Han's blood stripe already, but just to clarify: his blood stripes are yellow throughout ROTJ (check the scene where he's convincing Lando to take the Falcon on the DSII attack, or even better the scene where the ewok hugs his leg after they've all been made "a part of the tribe"). The stripes are only red in ANH.

But to rip a bluray disc and convert it to HD-dvd means you'll have to buy the bluray disc, so you'll be supporting the format anyway.