Jetrell Fo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoYrr2h0agY

From the Vault: Barack Obama’s first week as president.

dahmage said:

Jetrell Fo said:

dahmage said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Weird that some wanna make it sound like brimstone and fire without actually saying it. Our own intelligence community has stated that it is almost impossible to fully vet these folks and there are 1000 investigations with the FBI at present. There are apparently plenty of immigrants/refugees that don’t even have paperwork they’re supposed to have after being vetted while being here so I don’t know why at least a temporary furlong on this matter is even an issue.

Let them get it sorted and then complain if they don’t agree with some of the criteria.

https://homeland.house.gov/press/nations-top-security-officials-concerns-on-refugee-vetting/

Frink’s favorite go-to site.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2015/11/17/senior-obama-officials-have-warned-of-challenges-in-screening-refugees-from-syria/?utm_term=.054afa663b35

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-syria-refugees-vetting-gap-20170125-story.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/abraham-r-wagner/vetting-syrian-refugees-m_b_8593438.html

I should add that this problem goes at least as far back as the Clinton Administration, probably farther, so it’s not like it’s a big lie or something.

LOL

So, I don’t know if immigration personally effects you, but I happen to live in a city that is very supportive of refugees, and has helped settle way more than the national average. I have good friends that work in resettlement. It is completely untrue that more needs to be done to vet refugees. It takes forever to come to the US as refugees. It is absolutely shameful the way politicians are using fear of terrorists coming as refugees for getting more support. The argument is easy to make, and sounds oh so wise “let’s just take a moment to make sure it is safe”. Well, it’s a very sneaky lie. It is already just about as safe as you can make it. I am sick and tired of hearing these uninformed, but well intentioned sounding statements. I say, let us do some good for refugees, and some good for the US, and keep bringing them in. Refugees make America stronger.

As an American it will affect me as it does any other citizen in any other country. My stand is that if people want to emigrate to the U.S. because they want a better life and they want to be a part of positive things, bring it. I can neither prove or disprove that there will be some wanting to do bad things once they get here. It happens worldwide. I know that during the Clinton Administration that due to the sheer volume of people wanting to come in that they started just allowing people without the paperwork or vetting that was normally mandatory for such things even then.

Has it affected the country? I’m sure it has. Will it hurt our country in the future? Probably some. Is it okay to want to put better procedures in place to help safe guard those coming with good intent and those already here with the same intent when they came? Abosulutely. Will we catch all the bad people? Eventually I’m sure. I get where you’re coming from and I agree with your sentiment. I also understand the need for a better and more efficient way to accomplish the work required to allow those folks wanting to start a new life as soon as possible.

“Better procedures” is a bald faced lie. The ignorance by those promoting this is either willful or uninformed, but it is still ignorance.

“I” am not promoting anything. “I” am just trying to have a conversation with you on the matter but apparently your intentions are not the same.

Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

Jeebus said:

doubleofive said:

Lord Haseo said:

MalàStrana said:

Lord Haseo said:

TV’s Frink said:

doubleofive said:

And IGNORING war, noise, and poverty does not make the country have peace, quiet, and prosperity.

I guess it might for you if you aren’t Muslim. Or gay. Or a woman. Or poor. Or black. Or Latino. Or [insert non-oppressed person here].

THIS

What “this” ? Are people oppressed or do they just feel that way ? Reality vs perception…

Let me give you agander into what my reality is. As a brown skinned mixed man who happens to be bisexual I have been paranoid of someone trying me ever since that prick won. It’s gotten to the point where I’m looking up self defense laws. News stories like the one Frink posted are why I’m looking that shit up. People like you and millions of others can ignore these kind of things because it will never affect you but for people like me the fear is anything but someone’s skewed perception.

And the news article proves this isn’t paranoia. It very well could happen. The current administration distrusts everyone who’s not a straight, white, cis male, and every single thing they’ve done in the last week proves it.

In the same way it’s not paranoia to be constantly worried about being blown up in a terrorist attack because terrorist attacks happen.

I’m gonna just make an assumption without looking for statistics that getting assaulted due to race/gender/sexuality is extraordinarily more likely than being attacked by a terrorist.

I can’t make that assumption.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/11410/complete-list-radical-islamic-terror-attacks-us-james-barrett

I count 13 incidents since 2009.

http://www.ncavp.org/common/document_files/Reports/2004NationalHV Report.pdf

This is only LGBT violence for two years (2003-2004). A couple of thousand each year.

I’ve got a couple issues with the first article. Firstly, it only covers Islamic terror attacks, and secondly I think it’s more fair to compare victims to victims rather than incidents to incidents.

I’m using the dreaded Wikipedia as a source for this; since the Little Rock, Arkansas shooting there have been 26 terror attacks, with 637 total victims (unless I did my math wrong somewhere down the line). That’s not to say that they’re on the same level obviously, since the terror attacks span 8 years but don’t account for even half of LGBT violence in a year.

Even so, both of those figures are pretty damn low in the grand scheme of things. It’s irrational to go around fearing things like this, because the odds of it happening to you are 3720 to 1 😉

“Never tell me the odds.”

😉

Dek Rollins said:

TV’s Frink said:

I just like how Trump says we have to learn the lessons of 9/11 and proceeds to ban people from countries that had nothing to do with 9/11 while not banning people from countries that did.

So, if we were to learn things from the occurrences in the Cold War, such lessons would only be applicable to another conflict with Russia?

TV’s Frink said:

Tyrphanax said:

It’s hilarious to me how absolutely terrible Trump is at being the President of America. We’d have had better luck electing a small child. I mean, we did, because he’s a massive baby and has the same attention span, but I mean an actual small child.

Don’t forget his tiny hands.

Making fun of someone for their appearance rather than content of character.

He’s never made fun of someone based on their appearance, eva.

😉

dahmage said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Weird that some wanna make it sound like brimstone and fire without actually saying it. Our own intelligence community has stated that it is almost impossible to fully vet these folks and there are 1000 investigations with the FBI at present. There are apparently plenty of immigrants/refugees that don’t even have paperwork they’re supposed to have after being vetted while being here so I don’t know why at least a temporary furlong on this matter is even an issue.

Let them get it sorted and then complain if they don’t agree with some of the criteria.

https://homeland.house.gov/press/nations-top-security-officials-concerns-on-refugee-vetting/

Frink’s favorite go-to site.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2015/11/17/senior-obama-officials-have-warned-of-challenges-in-screening-refugees-from-syria/?utm_term=.054afa663b35

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-syria-refugees-vetting-gap-20170125-story.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/abraham-r-wagner/vetting-syrian-refugees-m_b_8593438.html

I should add that this problem goes at least as far back as the Clinton Administration, probably farther, so it’s not like it’s a big lie or something.

LOL

So, I don’t know if immigration personally effects you, but I happen to live in a city that is very supportive of refugees, and has helped settle way more than the national average. I have good friends that work in resettlement. It is completely untrue that more needs to be done to vet refugees. It takes forever to come to the US as refugees. It is absolutely shameful the way politicians are using fear of terrorists coming as refugees for getting more support. The argument is easy to make, and sounds oh so wise “let’s just take a moment to make sure it is safe”. Well, it’s a very sneaky lie. It is already just about as safe as you can make it. I am sick and tired of hearing these uninformed, but well intentioned sounding statements. I say, let us do some good for refugees, and some good for the US, and keep bringing them in. Refugees make America stronger.

As an American it will affect me as it does any other citizen in any other country. My stand is that if people want to emigrate to the U.S. because they want a better life and they want to be a part of positive things, bring it. I can neither prove or disprove that there will be some wanting to do bad things once they get here. It happens worldwide. I know that during the Clinton Administration that due to the sheer volume of people wanting to come in that they started just allowing people without the paperwork or vetting that was normally mandatory for such things even then.

Has it affected the country? I’m sure it has. Will it hurt our country in the future? Probably some. Is it okay to want to put better procedures in place to help safe guard those coming with good intent and those already here with the same intent when they came? Abosulutely. Will we catch all the bad people? Eventually I’m sure. I get where you’re coming from and I agree with your sentiment. I also understand the need for a better and more efficient way to accomplish the work required to allow those folks wanting to start a new life as soon as possible.

http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/309530-state-of-georgia-allegedly-accusing-homeland-security-of-attempted-hack

This is certainly an odd story. Since my professional experience with TSA doesn’t count for anything at all here I’m just gonna let people read and research themselves.

It is the ending of an era for sure. Mary Tyler Moore, John Hurt, Mike Connors, and the others. It’s going to be one heck of a ride.

R.I.P. to all of them. Thanks for bringing and sharing your talents with the world.

Tyrphanax said:

Butch Trucks - 69

Everyone knows the Allman Brothers. Sad times.

Sad that he committed suicide too. A sad loss for sure.

Weird that some wanna make it sound like brimstone and fire without actually saying it. Our own intelligence community has stated that it is almost impossible to fully vet these folks and there are 1000 investigations with the FBI at present. There are apparently plenty of immigrants/refugees that don’t even have paperwork they’re supposed to have after being vetted while being here so I don’t know why at least a temporary furlong on this matter is even an issue.

Let them get it sorted and then complain if they don’t agree with some of the criteria.

https://homeland.house.gov/press/nations-top-security-officials-concerns-on-refugee-vetting/

Frink’s favorite go-to site.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2015/11/17/senior-obama-officials-have-warned-of-challenges-in-screening-refugees-from-syria/?utm_term=.054afa663b35

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-syria-refugees-vetting-gap-20170125-story.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/abraham-r-wagner/vetting-syrian-refugees-m_b_8593438.html

I should add that this problem goes at least as far back as the Clinton Administration, probably farther, so it’s not like it’s a big lie or something.

LOL

This is what mine look like.

Warbler said:

if you say so.

whatever

😉

Warbler said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Warbler said:

Jetrell Fo said:

DominicCobb said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Warbler said:

Some Trump supporters are insane, some are delusional, some are idiots, and some are a combination of all 3.

This is pure opinion and garbage if you’re stating it as fact.

As long as warb isn’t implying his statement to be all inclusive, it isn’t opinion, it is fact.

Then it’s garbage because it simply isn’t true.

So there are no idiots that support Trump? There are no insane people that support? There are no delusional people that support?

Remember, I said some, not all. Some means part of the group. If there are 10 balloons, and I say some are red, it means at least 1 is red. It is true if all 10 are red and it is true if only 1 is red. The only way it couldn’t be true is if none are red.

Here are your words …

Warbler said:

Some Trump supporters are insane, some are delusional, some are idiots, and some are a combination of all 3.

You left no room nor did you say that some of them were probably regular decent people. You chose and stuck to 3 catagories … you can dance on semantics all you want. What you said is garbage unless you concede that Trump has supporters that are regular, normal folks in society that are good people.

Since you left it out … I take it as those are your facts about all of them and it’s just untrue.

So there are no idiots that support Trump? There are no insane people that support? There are no delusional people that support?

Remember, I said some, not all. Some means part of the group. If there are 10 balloons, and I say some are red, it means at least 1 is red. It is true if all 10 are red and it is true if only 1 is red. The only way it couldn’t be true is if none are red.

Alt-facts and opinions.

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

Jetrell Fo said:

DominicCobb said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Warbler said:

Some Trump supporters are insane, some are delusional, some are idiots, and some are a combination of all 3.

This is pure opinion and garbage if you’re stating it as fact.

As long as warb isn’t implying his statement to be all inclusive, it isn’t opinion, it is fact.

Then it’s garbage because it simply isn’t true.

So there are no idiots that support Trump? There are no insane people that support? There are no delusional people that support?

Remember, I said some, not all. Some means part of the group. If there are 10 balloons, and I say some are red, it means at least 1 is red. It is true if all 10 are red and it is true if only 1 is red. The only way it couldn’t be true is if none are red.

It’s kind of sad that you have to post this but I don’t blame you one bit.

+1

+2

Alt-opinions.

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Tyrphanax said:

Warbler said:

Tyrphanax said:

TV’s Frink said:

Bingowings said:

Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

moviefreakedmind said:

generalfrevious said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The idea that your future was robbed by Trump is like a parody of the most insane anti-Trump people.

Here’s a fact: all rich and/or conservative people are inherently evil, and want all poor people to die.

This kind of crap is why no one on this forum likes you.

It’s the truth.
They are all evil.

Not all conservatives and/or rich people are evil. Some are, some aren’t.

For one thing Trump and the Brexiteers aren’t conservative. They are reactionary. But they are all evil, every last one of them.

I would try to argue the point with you, but I think that would be pointless. Not all Conservatives are evil.

Trump isn’t conservative. A conservative wants to maintain what exists and only change as a matter of last resort. Trump wants to roll backwards to a mythical better time. He is a reactionary. He is evil. his supporters are evil. All of them.

I agree with most of this, but I take issue with all Trump supporters being evil. Some of his supporters are just not very informed. Some are desperate. Some are blinded by party loyalty (ironic since Trump is not Conservative, as you said). Some are evil.

I agree.

I love the insane pipe dream that we can somehow go back to a time where coal and car-making jobs were plentiful and paid pensions you could retire on and the only reason they don’t exist anymore is because of immigrants and outsourcing (partially true, mind you), but the fact is that mainly through progress and automation, those jobs are gone forever. This reliance on the fantastical “good old days” is inane and damaging. The past is the past and we need to look forward to the future.

If you want to make America greater, you need to invest in education (at all levels, including trades) and help citizens get jobs that pay living wages in a progressive and automated world. You need to invest in comprehensive healthcare reform that guarantees that American citizens won’t have to choose between going bankrupt taking the most basic care of themselves or dying of a preventable or curable disease. You need to welcome immigrants who bring diversity and talent and innovation to our country, instead of another. You need to invest in the less advantaged among us, you need to invest in our veterans, you need to end the war on drugs so that people who make a bad choice don’t end up in poverty for the rest of their lives and so that we don’t invest in a broken, profit-driven prison industrial complex. You need to support our allies overseas and keep America in the minds of the world. You need to support science and space exploration and climate change research; America must be at the global forefront and the cutting edge of innovation and research and development and science in order to be greater. Looking back to the days of the Industrial Revolution only hurts us. Throttling scientific advances and research and reports only hurts us.

If you want to end illegal immigration from our southern border, you need to invest in Mexico and help make it a country with a strong economy and a strong government that its people don’t need to leave in order to secure a future for themselves and their families; you cannot treat the symptoms and expect to cure the disease, you must treat the cause. As a side effect, it also gives us a strong southern ally, and boosts the entire economy of the western hemisphere. You can’t just build a wall and contribute to the destruction of the environment through creating millions oft yards of concrete, by creating an impassable barrier for flora and fauna, by spending millions of taxpayer dollars and expect the problem to just “go away.”

This strange notion that isolationism is a good plan in any way in a modern world is ridiculous. It didn’t work for feudal Japan and it certainly won’t work in 2017. With each area we pull out of, with each foreign program we stop funding, Russia steps in. China steps in. Our rivals step in, and after America finally wakes up from its nap, we will find ourselves in a world where we are no longer a superpower and have no horse in the global race, with more powerful rivals on every side. I wasn’t a fan of TPP in its current form (and its the one thing I’ve agreed with President Trump on so far), but I acknowledge that denying it opens the door for China to dictate trade in the Pacific, and so reworking the TPP to be in the best interests of the people and not the corporations, while allowing the US to hold China’s interests in the Pacific off must happen. Globalization is happening and it cannot be stopped, only ignored to the detriment of the ignorant.

Anyway that got a bit out of hand, but yeah I agree.

great post.

DominicCobb said:

Tyrphanax said:

TV’s Frink said:

Bingowings said:

Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

moviefreakedmind said:

generalfrevious said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The idea that your future was robbed by Trump is like a parody of the most insane anti-Trump people.

Here’s a fact: all rich and/or conservative people are inherently evil, and want all poor people to die.

This kind of crap is why no one on this forum likes you.

It’s the truth.
They are all evil.

Not all conservatives and/or rich people are evil. Some are, some aren’t.

For one thing Trump and the Brexiteers aren’t conservative. They are reactionary. But they are all evil, every last one of them.

I would try to argue the point with you, but I think that would be pointless. Not all Conservatives are evil.

Trump isn’t conservative. A conservative wants to maintain what exists and only change as a matter of last resort. Trump wants to roll backwards to a mythical better time. He is a reactionary. He is evil. his supporters are evil. All of them.

I agree with most of this, but I take issue with all Trump supporters being evil. Some of his supporters are just not very informed. Some are desperate. Some are blinded by party loyalty (ironic since Trump is not Conservative, as you said). Some are evil.

I agree.

I love the insane pipe dream that we can somehow go back to a time where coal and car-making jobs were plentiful and paid pensions you could retire on and the only reason they don’t exist anymore is because of immigrants and outsourcing (partially true, mind you), but the fact is that mainly through progress and automation, those jobs are gone forever. This reliance on the fantastical “good old days” is inane and damaging. The past is the past and we need to look forward to the future.

If you want to make America greater, you need to invest in education (at all levels, including trades) and help citizens get jobs that pay living wages in a progressive and automated world. You need to invest in comprehensive healthcare reform that guarantees that American citizens won’t have to choose between going bankrupt taking the most basic care of themselves or dying of a preventable or curable disease. You need to welcome immigrants who bring diversity and talent and innovation to our country, instead of another. You need to invest in the less advantaged among us, you need to invest in our veterans, you need to end the war on drugs so that people who make a bad choice don’t end up in poverty for the rest of their lives and so that we don’t invest in a broken, profit-driven prison industrial complex. You need to support our allies overseas and keep America in the minds of the world. You need to support science and space exploration and climate change research; America must be at the global forefront and the cutting edge of innovation and research and development and science in order to be greater. Looking back to the days of the Industrial Revolution only hurts us. Throttling scientific advances and research and reports only hurts us.

If you want to end illegal immigration from our southern border, you need to invest in Mexico and help make it a country with a strong economy and a strong government that its people don’t need to leave in order to secure a future for themselves and their families; you cannot treat the symptoms and expect to cure the disease, you must treat the cause. As a side effect, it also gives us a strong southern ally, and boosts the entire economy of the western hemisphere. You can’t just build a wall and contribute to the destruction of the environment through creating millions oft yards of concrete, by creating an impassable barrier for flora and fauna, by spending millions of taxpayer dollars and expect the problem to just “go away.”

This strange notion that isolationism is a good plan in any way in a modern world is ridiculous. It didn’t work for feudal Japan and it certainly won’t work in 2017. With each area we pull out of, with each foreign program we stop funding, Russia steps in. China steps in. Our rivals step in, and after America finally wakes up from its nap, we will find ourselves in a world where we are no longer a superpower and have no horse in the global race, with more powerful rivals on every side. I wasn’t a fan of TPP in its current form (and its the one thing I’ve agreed with President Trump on so far), but I acknowledge that denying it opens the door for China to dictate trade in the Pacific, and so reworking the TPP to be in the best interests of the people and not the corporations, while allowing the US to hold China’s interests in the Pacific off must happen. Globalization is happening and it cannot be stopped, only ignored to the detriment of the ignorant.

Anyway that got a bit out of hand, but yeah I agree.

This is a quality post.

Thanks, guys.

Woah, slow down. I didn’t ask for your thanks or your friendship. We’re all humans here and no one is perfect. Enough with the baiting posts.

This is an opinion.

Alt-opinion.

Warbler said:

Jetrell Fo said:

DominicCobb said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Warbler said:

Some Trump supporters are insane, some are delusional, some are idiots, and some are a combination of all 3.

This is pure opinion and garbage if you’re stating it as fact.

As long as warb isn’t implying his statement to be all inclusive, it isn’t opinion, it is fact.

Then it’s garbage because it simply isn’t true.

So there are no idiots that support Trump? There are no insane people that support? There are no delusional people that support?

Remember, I said some, not all. Some means part of the group. If there are 10 balloons, and I say some are red, it means at least 1 is red. It is true if all 10 are red and it is true if only 1 is red. The only way it couldn’t be true is if none are red.

Here are your words …

Warbler said:

Some Trump supporters are insane, some are delusional, some are idiots, and some are a combination of all 3.

You left no room nor did you say that some of them were probably regular decent people. You chose and stuck to 3 catagories … you can dance on semantics all you want. What you said is garbage unless you concede that Trump has supporters that are regular, normal folks in society that are good people.

Since you left it out … I take it that those are your only considered facts about all of them and they are not true.

DominicCobb said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Warbler said:

Some Trump supporters are insane, some are delusional, some are idiots, and some are a combination of all 3.

This is pure opinion and garbage if you’re stating it as fact.

As long as warb isn’t implying his statement to be all inclusive, it isn’t opinion, it is fact.

Then it’s garbage because it simply isn’t true.

TV’s Frink said:

Enjoy it, fine, but stop encouraging it by responding to it seriously.

Unless you can prove that someone is a troll you should not accuse them of it openly.

😃

Warbler said:

Some Trump supporters are insane, some are delusional, some are idiots, and some are a combination of all 3.

This is pure opinion and garbage if you’re stating it as fact.

TV’s Frink said:

doubleofive said:

TV’s Frink said:

http://time.com/4651432/trump-muslim-woman-jfk-airport/

We shouldn’t judge all supporters by the out-layers, but shouldn’t Trump say something condemning these types of actions? If he’s legitimately worried about illegal immigration, he needs to put out a statement pointing out the differences to try to calm down people like this or he is indeed condoning this type of action.

Yes.

We as a country need to ban together and fix this shit.

MalàStrana said:

generalfrevious said:
He’s been in office only a week, and he is already eclipsing the worst dictatorships of the previous century.

Stalin and Hitler are laughing so hard right now…

fixed

😃

doubleofive said:

Jetrell Fo said:

doubleofive said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

http://time.com/4651432/trump-muslim-woman-jfk-airport/

You know what sucks about this? Every person whose ever disliked someone does it. They use others as a bar of comparison to disparage the person they don’t like.

I get so tired of these types of “news” articles because they promote the exact opposite of what the country would like to achieve … some peace, quiet, and prosperity for all.

Frink posted a link with no commentary. This IS news, this is the country we live in now. People are feeling entitled to be assholes because they feel their president is an asshole and would applaud them. Which goes back to my comment that Trump needs to get in front of this, and should have as soon as these stories started happening. But no, he’s too focused on contesting the result of an election that HE WON.

Can you imagine would it would have been like if he lost? I guess then he could have called for all the investigations he wanted and no one would have to listen.

And IGNORING war, noise, and poverty does not make the country have peace, quiet, and prosperity.

I was going to say you are starting to sound like Mr. Frevious but lo and behold, he came in on his own.

LOL

That’s unfair, I believe the world will survive his term. America might be a completely different country, but most of the world will survive.

Welcome to my world. It sucks, doesn’t it?

My point was that those “supporters” are human and “adults”. Trump does not call them at home, text or e-mail them, or send them subliminal tin foil hat messages to just do hateful things everywhere in his name. The simple idea is ludicrous, for anyone that has supporters, but here we treat it like “from God’s own lips” truth and important.

We have personalities here that aren’t what they seem but we have to deal with them or ignore them. I use my own mind to make decisions and do research. It is okay if we disagree on each others opinions. Posts with links to articles based on crack pot titles are garbage because the distasteful intent is already obvious.

doubleofive said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

http://time.com/4651432/trump-muslim-woman-jfk-airport/

You know what sucks about this? Every person whose ever disliked someone does it. They use others as a bar of comparison to disparage the person they don’t like.

I get so tired of these types of “news” articles because they promote the exact opposite of what the country would like to achieve … some peace, quiet, and prosperity for all.

Frink posted a link with no commentary. This IS news, this is the country we live in now. People are feeling entitled to be assholes because they feel their president is an asshole and would applaud them. Which goes back to my comment that Trump needs to get in front of this, and should have as soon as these stories started happening. But no, he’s too focused on contesting the result of an election that HE WON.

Can you imagine would it would have been like if he lost? I guess then he could have called for all the investigations he wanted and no one would have to listen.

And IGNORING war, noise, and poverty does not make the country have peace, quiet, and prosperity.

I was going to say you are starting to sound like Mr. Frevious but lo and behold, he came in on his own.

LOL

TV’s Frink said:

http://time.com/4651432/trump-muslim-woman-jfk-airport/

You know what sucks about this? Every person whose ever disliked someone does it. They use others as a bar of comparison to disparage the person they don’t like.

I get so tired of these types of “news” articles because they promote the exact opposite of what the country would like to achieve … some peace, quiet, and prosperity for all.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Handman said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

It’s weird going onto WaybackMachine and checking out old OT.com posts from 2003. Everyone seems so nice, as opposed to the depressing, sarcastic and smart ass comments most people give today. I wish I was a member back then.

Evidently that niceness stopped fast.

“Time to grow up.”

LOL. Some things never change.

Agreed. 😃

flametitan said:

Somewhat international, but it ties into recent things from America: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/jan/25/netherlands-trump-gag-rule-international-safe-abortion-fund

Direct quote from the article:

“Ploumen said it was the Netherlands’ right to take an independent stance. “I’m pro-choice and pro-women’s rights. It’s important to stand your ground,” she said. “We respect the decisions of a democratically elected president, but we’re democratically elected too and we can make different decisions.”