Jetrell Fo

From one of Mr. Frink’s quotable sources.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/03/20/full-transcript-fbi-director-james-comey-testifies-on-russian-interference-in-2016-election/?utm_term=.41a06ba2acb2

Comey stated in his opening statement that the Trump campaign was part of the investigation regarding these Russian agents. Digital Surveillance would be included in that investigation. I say this lightly, but after listening to this hearing, it sounds as if some folks were given the questions ahead of time so they could prepare their answers accordingly.

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My guess is that it’s his way of staying relevant in the world of journalism. 😉

^Coming from the journalist that wrote a book about Hillary Clinton’s life, now that’s rich, and I’m sure he’s done the right thing and reported anyone that has leaked Top Secret information to him and anyone he knows.

CatBus said:

Luckily, the President has the power to declassify anything he likes, so I’m sure it’ll be cleared up in a jiffy.

Besides, there was a wiretap at Trump Tower. But it was targetting a Russian mob-operated money laundering operation.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story-fbi-wiretap-russians-trump-tower/story?id=46266198

TLDR summary, although the FBI operation was largely a success, the big Russian mafioso got away, and was last seen in the VIP section at one of the President’s events, right near the man himself.

Aside from Jonathan Karl being a tool this is one of those moments I talked about. Things being leaked that aren’t supposed to be leaked. The only thing that will be hard to verify is the nature of the Flynn conversation leak and any other tangent conversation picked up, either randomly or in connection to, conversations of Donald Trump and other members of his campaign.

It’s a shitty mess.

^That is a dumb meme.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/former-dni-james-clapper-i-can-deny-wiretap-trump-tower-n729261

Here’s a great example of Top Secret information being let loose. Clapper states that there was no wiretapping on Trump Tower while also saying he saw no evidence of collusion between the Trump Campaign and Russia. James Comey wouldn’t discuss either because the investigation in to Russian ties has been ongoing since July of last year. Robby Mook stated unequivocally that the Trump Campaign was put under surveillance due to investigations of Russian agents.

So, if you were the American people, how would you feel? I’d say they’d feel like dog crap because this seems to indicate that the news of the CIA/NSA/FBI losing control of their intelligence gathering sector and practices is right on. They won’t deny or confirm any of it because … it’s Top Secret.

LOL

TV’s Frink said:

Jetrell Fo said:

it is proof that people in the Trump campaign were under surveillance by our previous Administration.

Untrue. It is proof that someone was under surveillance. Because people in the Trump campaign were interacting with people from Russia (which no one is denying, at least on a superficial level) it is possible (if not quite likely) that the Russians were under surveillance and that is why the Trump campaign got caught in the net.

The problem is that Trump and Spicer shot their mouths off with no proof to back it up.

You cannot disprove it any more than I can prove it at this point. It will be damn difficult to prove publicly either way because any Top Secret documents pertaining to it must stay Top Secret. The fact that Flynn’s conversation was put in to a transcript and illegally released by someone shows that people in the Trump campaign were under surveillance. Now, if any Trump conversation was recorded, unless it is declassified it will not be known legally by the American people.

Now, if Trump has documentation to prove it, we won’t see it either. I agree that Trump should at least not have used the term “wiretapped”, even if it was used loosely. It did start a fire for sure.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/03/21/andrew-napolitano-reportedly-pulled-from-fox-news-over-debunked-wiretapping-claims/?utm_term=.1edb0d91d221

I don’t know how anyone could possibly debunk his claim because these agencies don’t release information on things classified as “Top Secret”. When Obama expanded the rules, all approved governmental security agencies have a direct link to the raw “unadulterated” data collected by the NSA/CIA/FBI. Any editing of that data is now done by each specific entity that receives it, even if it is hearsay or rumor. In fact, Comey’s testimony proves it, as he continually states “he cannot answer most questions” in any public venue. The fact that the British Intelligence Agency distanced itself publicly from the suggestion is odd because they don’t publicly confirm or deny anything for this same reason … “Top Secret”.

Weird, for sure, it definitely clouds the issues even more. I’m not saying the allegation about them helping is true but they would even know if we did it because they have access to such data. The FISA Court is designated as “Top Secret” too so people obtaining actual transcripts of Flynn’s conversations is illegal as hell, but it is proof that people in the Trump campaign were under surveillance by our previous Administration.

Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

SilverWook said:

In any event, when the Anne Frank Center has a problem with the joke, that kind of settles it.

You would think so but apparently not.

What are we even debating here?

Whose opinion is actually funny and whose is not.

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http://thehill.com/policy/international/middle-east-north-africa/324915-9-11-victims-suing-saudi-arabia-report

This is going to be one hell of a ride.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIh-CadZweI

Comey says absolutely nothing while being questioned except for “I cannot answer that.” We don’t no anymore than we did before so how is the Russian Spy narrative even considered factual and headline material?

I just don’t know.

^No need to be like that. It’s just a video regardless of titles. It’s not like some of your own favorite quotable news sources are writing unbiased news stories with misleading headlines that are based on unproven narratives.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGphLshEeLE

Hearing for Wiretap/Surveillance of Trump Campaign and Russian DNC Links.

SilverWook said:

So, the Tool Man himself, is a tool? Thank you! I’m here all week! 😉

An outdated tool to boot, LOL.

http://www.tmj4.com//news/national/committee-confirms-no-wiretap-of-trump-tower-comey-confirms-investigation-in-russian-meddling?utm_source=SilverpopMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2017-03-20 15:12:22.687 : FBI Director Comey:

A story about Comey’s committee meeting from a local station by me. Far more level-headed article compared to what will probably get more attention than they’re worth due to the continuing “Russian Spy” narrative being propogated.

TV’s Frink said:

So you think he’s gonna lie. Or that they’re all gonna assume he’s lying.

What I think is irrelevant. His recent track record lays the ground work for anything he does moving forward. The Obama Administration has a well known track record for surveillance all over the place. With the verification that General Flynn had his calls intercepted and transcribed, used as “proof” against him, I have no reason to believe Comey will be willingly forthcoming, about whether or not President Trump is on any of those recordings.

The simple fact is, the damage is already done, with the Flynn incident. It has a paper trail. For anyone in the Government that doesn’t want anyone stepping outside the purview of said paper trail, culpable deniability, will be the name of the game.

^After Comey’s Clinton debacle I don’t know how much weight they expect his words to have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-dfJHOYkDw

Insider leaks and how our own country has meddled in the elections of others countries.

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/322403-former-bush-ag-trump-right-that-there-was-surveillance

Former Attorney General Michael Mukasey on Sunday said that President Trump is likely correct that there was surveillance on Trump Tower for intelligence purposes, but incorrect in accusing former President Barack Obama of ordering the wiretapping.

“I think he’s right in that there was surveillance and that it was conducted at the behest of the attorney general — at the Justice Department,” Mukasey told ABC’s “This Week.”

Trump on Saturday accused Obama of wiretapping Trump Tower in New York City just before the November election.

SilverWook said:

Also called being a dick. 😉

Agreed.

I’m still sad about John Wetton’s passing.

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SilverWook said:

TV’s Frink said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.mic.com/articles/amp/171536/waiter-asked-latina-women-for-proof-of-residency-before-taking-their-order?espv=

A waiter at a Southern California restaurant has been fired after asking a group of Latina women to provide “proof of residency” before taking their drink order, the Washington Post reported Sunday.

As some people on twitter are still screaming boycott, I guess firing the guy and apologizing wasn’t enough.

That’s called entitlement and there is far too much of it in this country at the moment.

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It’s a site I follow for political news. H.A. Goodman is not a Trump supporter. He wanted Bernie like I did. Had Bernie not been cheated he would have been a tough fight for Trump.

https://counterpropa.com/

Ryan McAvoy said:

Jetrell Fo said:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/03/16/house-intel-chair-its-possible-trump-tower-was-under-surveillance-n2300197

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., pushed back against his Senate counterparts’ categorical conclusion that Trump Tower was never under surveillance during the campaign or presidential transition.

Nunes stood by his Wednesday assertion that there was no “physical” wiretap on then-candidate and President-elect Trump. But beyond that, he said, is unknowable.

[…]

There was no “physical” wiretap on Trump but “you can’t rule out surveillance because we know for a fact that they picked up incidental collection on General Flynn—now we don’t know if that was it,” Nunes told reporters on Thursday.

The light still being on inside my fridge is “unknowable” but it doesn’t mean it is.

The same could be said for me knowing you actually have a light inside your fridge.

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^That is supposition at best, that he was not a target. Even if he wasn’t, if his voice was recorded during whatever surveillance they were doing, the NSA/CIA would only have to deny it. Trump will have to come up with verified transcripts of calls his conversations are on and in this digital age anything can disappear, ask Hillary Clinton, LOL.