Jetrell Fo

said:

CatBus said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Trump has a better chance at getting re-elected than you seem to give him credit for.

For once I agree with Fo, in conclusion if not in how I got there. It should come as no surprise to anyone that when polled on issues rather than candidates, “Democratic issues” win by enormous margins. Part of the problem is clearly messaging.

Yes, but Trump was not a normal Republican candidate…not even Ted Cruz “normal.” He was insanely lucky to win. That doesn’t mean he didn’t run an effective campaign, but he barely won (and only via the Electoral College by a very slim margin) because people hate Clinton, because she’s a poor campaigner, because the polling was off, because of the Comey letter, because of Wikileaks, and on and on.

That all had to go his way for him to win.

Luck had absolutely nothing to do with it. Nothing. He played the same dirty pool they did but he was better at it. People in America just did not want another lying Clinton in office even if their only other choice was a lying Trump. They wanted change and Trump offered it in spades. Simple as that.

TV’s Frink said:

Jetrell Fo said:

I’d rather you and Frink keep ignoring me

For me, it would really help if you would return the favor, as I’ve said many times, but for some reason you still insist on responding to every post I make. And I’m not talking about posts like the one I’m making now, I’m talking about the random ones where I post a current events article. You always have to comment on it. Is it so hard to not respond? I don’t want to have a conversation with you, so why keep trying to comment on everything I say?

There is only one person on the top of the food chain here and his name is not TV’sFrink or warbler. Your words and opinions are no smarter or dumber than mine or anybody elses.

Commenting on a story you or any one else posts is fair game for comment. Why should yours be treated so special? Me commenting on them is not having a dialog with you. You take quietly worded pot shots at me or my person in other threads and that’s okay right?

You and warbler have made poor arguments for your positions. It’s bad enough you got me temp banned on a double standard. I will not let it happen again, guaranteed. Either own it, and say you won’t have a regular conversation with me because you don’t understand how to, or stop complaining and just be a normal person like everyone else here.

CatBus said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Trump has a better chance at getting re-elected than you seem to give him credit for.

For once I agree with Fo, in conclusion if not in how I got there. It should come as no surprise to anyone that when polled on issues rather than candidates, “Democratic issues” win by enormous margins. Part of the problem is clearly messaging.

When Democrats run on their policies, they win. What was missing this last cycle? Well, the top media topics were: Benghazi, Emailghazi, Sneezeghazi, pussy grabbing, and penis size. Whether true/important or not, these were character issues and not policy stories. Was Clinton’s character fatally flawed? Maybe, but the Trump team is also very, very good at waving shiny things in front of the media–even if it doesn’t reflect well on them–to prevent people from talking about policy issues. Does it matter that nobody knew where Trump stood on any issues? Not as long as they kept people from knowing where Clinton stood.

And as Lee Atwater said, when Republicans run on race, they win. America hasn’t seen a campaign as racially charged as Trump’s since George Wallace, and it’s unlikely he’s going to change the strategy that put him in the White House.

Democrats seem hell-bent on pursuing policies that appeal to the most people. Trump seems hell-bent on ignoring what appeals to the most people and simply appealing to the right people (the disproportionately influential white/rural working class). Where does that leave us? With a Democratic Party that’s successfully outpolled their opposition in 6 of the last 7 Presidential elections, and is simultaneously wondering how they can change to become relevant in national politics again.

The wild card is that the Trump team loves to play the victim card, and it worked well when he wasn’t an incumbent. When you control all three branches of federal government and the vast majority of state governments, it’s tough to convince people the mean system is rigged against you. Not that he’s not trying, what with Obama’s microwave spying on him and all. I just can’t see them changing tack on this one either, and it could lead to people seeing him as a paranoid nut, which might work against him. Or not.

Trump also helps the media help themselves look bad. He goads them constantly and instead of falling back on their laurels and reporting factually and without bias, they drop their moral ethics and parade gossip style writing as factual news. Also, as far as I know, there isn’t a single reporter assigned to the press briefings that is a registered Republican.

It’s a weird space to watch live for sure.

Warbler said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Warbler said:

Just this once.

Jetrell Fo said:

If you were willing to engage in normal discussion about it

I think he believes (and I agree with that belief), that engaging in a normal rational discussion with you is impossible.

Jetrell Fo said:

Why is it so hard for you to be normal in conversation? Why does everything you have to say have to be made to sound like you’re the smarter person?

One could ask you the same question.

Jetrell Fo said:

No need to be a dick or condescending.

Yes we get enough of that from you already.

btw, you want reasonable well rounded conversions? Stop defending Trump no matter what and deny being a Trump supporter. That would a start.

So you prove at least part of my point in your post.

No, you only think it does.

Because I don’t believe as you guys do I am unable to be understood and you cannot have a rational conversation with me.

not exactly. It goes beyond not believing as we do.

On top of that, you quoting my convo with Duracell is a moot point. Him and I already worked it out and we both understood where we were coming from and why. If I can have that kind of conversation with him, you guys can have it with me, it is your unwillingness to meet in the middle on anything that prevents that from happening.

May I remind you that you weren’t able to have “that kind of conversation” with Durecell, without warning him with:

No need to be a dick or condescending.

when he wasn’t being a dick or being condescending. Doesn’t seem like you had that great a conversation with him.

You keep providing every reason you can think of for you two not to converse with me. If you don’t want to have a conversation, that’s fine, but own it and don’t blame just me for not being able to. How hard is that really? Putting only your conditions on whether or not you have a conversation with me isn’t reasonable. It says that you don’t want to meet in the middle. It says that you want what you want or it won’t happen because it can’t unless I follow only your terms.

I’d rather you and Frink keep ignoring me than to subject my personal integrity just to have a small chance of talking with you normally. There is nothing that important that you two do here that would sway me to make such a one sided and futile compromise.

Peace

SilverWook said:

Jetrell Fo said:

generalfrevious said:

TV’s Frink said:

24 million people were probably going to lose insurance under the previous failed bill, per the CBO. It’s unknown how many people would potentially lose insurance under this plan, and the Senate is sure to make fairly severe amendments to it as well. And of course, losing insurance does not equal death for a large number of people. For some, yes, and that will be blood on the Republican’s hands (and all because they can’t stop themselves from creating more giveaways to the rich while fucking over the poor)…but your exaggerations do not help your points at all.

Do you know who we are up against? We have a president that only does not respect the law or any morals whatsoever, but openly flaunts and brags about it.

Are you suggesting we’re up against this child actor?

😉

More like this one. 😉

Sam Neil was great in that movie. I loved all 3 of them. Does that me an anti-christ lover now?

😉

TV’s Frink said:

I think reelection is highly unlikely for Trump unless enough people’s lives are significantly improved. He was the most unpopular candidate ever and needed a perfect storm of favorable things to happen in order to win once.

There was nothing perfect about this election cycle. The Democrats only opportunity to take Trump out was cheated by his own people and none of them cared that it happened. Trump is not my friend, nor was he my choice for President (I wanted Bernie, not Hillary), but there is method to the madness that he uses whether you guys give him credit for it or not. My life does not evolve around your opinions … it evolves around mine.

Trump has a better chance at getting re-elected than you seem to give him credit for. If the Democrats can give up the “status quo” mentality and get back to regular Americans they would have a far better chance of unseating him.

Warbler said:

Just this once.

Jetrell Fo said:

If you were willing to engage in normal discussion about it

I think he believes (and I agree with that belief), that engaging in a normal rational discussion with you is impossible.

Jetrell Fo said:

Why is it so hard for you to be normal in conversation? Why does everything you have to say have to be made to sound like you’re the smarter person?

One could ask you the same question.

Jetrell Fo said:

No need to be a dick or condescending.

Yes we get enough of that from you already.

btw, you want reasonable well rounded conversions? Stop defending Trump no matter what and deny being a Trump supporter. That would a start.

So you prove at least part of my point in your post. Because I don’t believe as you guys do I am unable to be understood and you cannot have a rational conversation with me. On top of that, you quoting my convo with Duracell is a moot point. Him and I already worked it out and we both understood where we were coming from and why. If I can have that kind of conversation with him, you guys can have it with me, it is your unwillingness to meet in the middle on anything that prevents that from happening.

You’re right, that is a start.

😃

one69chev said:

Jetrell Fo said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

I dunno, a bald bird is kinda NSFW in my eyes. 😉

You should see some of Rhea’s other photos, this one was the least NSFW.

😉

I don’t know man, bunch a peckers in that pic…

I think you mean “bald” peckers.

😉

I’m reading random threads in this forum.

😉

CatBus said:

Jetrell Fo said:

CatBus said:

Seems typical legit.

You couldn’t find your own shtick?

😉

If you don’t like unoriginal schtick, don’t post unoriginal conspiracy theories.

There’s a Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy theory? You may want to tell that to him so he can feel free to leave his island paradise and come back to the world. There are people wanting to hear his side of the story.

😉

generalfrevious said:

TV’s Frink said:

24 million people were probably going to lose insurance under the previous failed bill, per the CBO. It’s unknown how many people would potentially lose insurance under this plan, and the Senate is sure to make fairly severe amendments to it as well. And of course, losing insurance does not equal death for a large number of people. For some, yes, and that will be blood on the Republican’s hands (and all because they can’t stop themselves from creating more giveaways to the rich while fucking over the poor)…but your exaggerations do not help your points at all.

Do you know who we are up against? We have a president that only does not respect the law or any morals whatsoever, but openly flaunts and brags about it.

Are you suggesting we’re up against this child actor?

😉

CatBus said:

Seems typical legit.

You couldn’t find your own shtick?

😉

DuracellEnergizer said:

Jetrell Fo said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Jetrell Fo said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Jetrell Fo said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Billionaire Pedophile’s Accused Madame Lawsuit Update!
Jan 31 at 10:25pm

I’d bet the Clinton’s may be hiding out while this heats up. Their dear friend Mr. Jeffrey Epstien, might be getting his playtoys spanked.

Mike Cernovich of reader-supported Cernovich Media filed a motion to intervene in Giuffre v. Maxwell, a case involving a sex trafficking victim and an accused sex trafficker. Since filing a motion to intervene, two important updates have occurred.

Ghislaine Maxwell has been sued again!

Disgraced Wall Street mogul Jeffrey Epstein is being accused by a woman of luring her into his elaborate sex trafficking enterprise under the ruse he would use his wealth and connections to get her into college.

She has slapped him a federal lawsuit in US District Court in New York demanding damages for forcing her to perform sex acts on him, according to documents filed Thursday and obtained by DailyMail.com.

Using the alias ‘Jane Doe 43,’ the woman filed a federal lawsuit against Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, Sarah Kellen, Lesley Groff and Natalya Malyshev.

The victim’s lawyers filed an opposition to Maxwell’s motion for summary judgment. Each document filed therewith merely contains the caption and the word [REDACTED].

There is no way to tell what is going on in the case, as it has been filed under seal. This is a total cover-up and disagrace, as the public has a right to know what has happened.

Any party wishing to oppose our motion to intervene/unseal will need to do so on or before this coming Thursday, Feb. 2nd.

I’ll keep everyone updated!

Mike Cernovich

Cernovich Media

I see people still don’t know understand what a pedophile is.

If you are referring to me with this statement I will say right now that your comment is NOT the least bit funny and I would ask that a mod remove it and you. I hope that is not the case.

As for the legal case, do you have inside information with regards to Mr. Epstein that could exonerate him because if you do I’m sure plenty would like to see it. It is legal fact that he is a registered sex offender.

Yeah, I looked up who Epstein is. He’s accused of soliciting sex from underage girls as young as 14. That’s hebephilia, not pedophilia. Pedophiles like their kids much younger than that.

So you made the statement about me?

I see we have failure to communicate. I will attempt to translate.

Conflating hebephilia with pedophilia is inaccurate and misleading. That’s not to say adults having sex with teenagers is ethical, but it’s not the same as molesting prepubescent children. Therefore everyone (emphasis on EVERYONE) should make the effort to learn the difference between hebephiles from pedophiles and distinguish them accordingly.

tl;dr: I hate histrionic headlines. I’m not accusing you of being a pedophile or whatever the fuck you thought.

No need to be a dick or condescending. I know what both of those terms mean. I didn’t write the article. I also know I don’t like seeing myself being referenced in some way in the same sentence as the word pedophile. I’d guess you don’t either. All I wanted was your assurance that it was not the case. You’ve now done that in a crappy and crappier way so it’s done.

I asked you twice to clarify. It is not my fault that you waited to be a jerk about it to do so.

I’m sorry for the condescension, but too many times in the past I’ve had the message/intent of a post misconstrued because I failed to paint a clear picture right off the bat of what I was trying to say, leading to arguments which only got angrier and more personal as they went on. I wanted to avoid that this time around.

I appreciate your candor and your discourse on the matter. I would really like to have more conversations that are well rounded as this one turned out.

Thank you.

DuracellEnergizer said:

I dunno, a bald bird is kinda NSFW in my eyes. 😉

You should see some of Rhea’s other photos, this one was the least NSFW.

😉

RicOlie_2 said:

It’s not a requirement for pictures to be NSFW… 😛

I was just trying to be specific just in case ya know. I laugh and have fun just like the rest of you and it’s nice to see people actually recognizing it.

Thanks.

😃

Not NSFW I know but fun nonetheless.

Ric Olie is dead … if he could be Zombie Ric Olie, I might not bitch about that, but then everyone here would have 1 sock and no-one would walk the same afterwards.

😉

TV’s Frink said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

You know what, never mind. I should know better than to waste my time like this. Post whatever pointless nonsense you want.

If you were willing to engage in normal discussion about it, cool, but since you never want to you should just keep ignoring me. I think it’s best for everyone including me.

I agree. If you could do likewise that would also be nice. Unfortunately you’ve never even tried, instead responding to just about every single post I make here.

And it’s not that I don’t want to engage in conversation, it’s that I literally can’t because I never understand anything you say.

It’s pretty hard to converse with someone that talks shit about every person that doesn’t see things their way. I have tried having a decent conversation with you but you always go in to the same old routine of making fun of me, talking shit about me, making crappy remarks in other threads about me, and then telling me you don’t understand a word I say. I speak fucking English too ya know. On top of all this, you always have to have the last word. I mean you couldn’t even ignore me now … you had to have something to say.

Why is it so hard for you to be normal in conversation? Why does everything you have to say have to be made to sound like you’re the smarter person? I get it, you know stuff, I know stuff too.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Jetrell Fo said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Jetrell Fo said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Billionaire Pedophile’s Accused Madame Lawsuit Update!
Jan 31 at 10:25pm

I’d bet the Clinton’s may be hiding out while this heats up. Their dear friend Mr. Jeffrey Epstien, might be getting his playtoys spanked.

Mike Cernovich of reader-supported Cernovich Media filed a motion to intervene in Giuffre v. Maxwell, a case involving a sex trafficking victim and an accused sex trafficker. Since filing a motion to intervene, two important updates have occurred.

Ghislaine Maxwell has been sued again!

Disgraced Wall Street mogul Jeffrey Epstein is being accused by a woman of luring her into his elaborate sex trafficking enterprise under the ruse he would use his wealth and connections to get her into college.

She has slapped him a federal lawsuit in US District Court in New York demanding damages for forcing her to perform sex acts on him, according to documents filed Thursday and obtained by DailyMail.com.

Using the alias ‘Jane Doe 43,’ the woman filed a federal lawsuit against Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, Sarah Kellen, Lesley Groff and Natalya Malyshev.

The victim’s lawyers filed an opposition to Maxwell’s motion for summary judgment. Each document filed therewith merely contains the caption and the word [REDACTED].

There is no way to tell what is going on in the case, as it has been filed under seal. This is a total cover-up and disagrace, as the public has a right to know what has happened.

Any party wishing to oppose our motion to intervene/unseal will need to do so on or before this coming Thursday, Feb. 2nd.

I’ll keep everyone updated!

Mike Cernovich

Cernovich Media

I see people still don’t know understand what a pedophile is.

If you are referring to me with this statement I will say right now that your comment is NOT the least bit funny and I would ask that a mod remove it and you. I hope that is not the case.

As for the legal case, do you have inside information with regards to Mr. Epstein that could exonerate him because if you do I’m sure plenty would like to see it. It is legal fact that he is a registered sex offender.

Yeah, I looked up who Epstein is. He’s accused of soliciting sex from underage girls as young as 14. That’s hebephilia, not pedophilia. Pedophiles like their kids much younger than that.

So you made the statement about me?

I see we have failure to communicate. I will attempt to translate.

Conflating hebephilia with pedophilia is inaccurate and misleading. That’s not to say adults having sex with teenagers is ethical, but it’s not the same as molesting prepubescent children. Therefore everyone (emphasis on EVERYONE) should make the effort to learn the difference between hebephiles from pedophiles and distinguish them accordingly.

tl;dr: I hate histrionic headlines. I’m not accusing you of being a pedophile or whatever the fuck you thought.

No need to be a dick or condescending. I know what both of those terms mean. I didn’t write the article. I also know I don’t like seeing myself being referenced in some way in the same sentence as the word pedophile. I’d guess you don’t either. All I wanted was your assurance that it was not the case. You’ve now done that in a crappy and crappier way so it’s done.

I asked you twice to clarify. It is not my fault that you waited to be a jerk about it to do so.

TV’s Frink said:

You know what, never mind. I should know better than to waste my time like this. Post whatever pointless nonsense you want.

If you were willing to engage in normal discussion about it, cool, but since you never want to you should just keep ignoring me. I think it’s best for everyone including me.

TV’s Frink said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

So why post it then?

It was an article I hadn’t read and I know the Clinton’s have been associated with Epstein. Is that a problem?

An old irrelevant article from a whack-job alt-right conspiracy theorist. Ok.

Your opinion is one thing, your rhetorical nonsense however is nonsense.

JEDIT: I should have used question dodging but I’m human too.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Jetrell Fo said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Billionaire Pedophile’s Accused Madame Lawsuit Update!
Jan 31 at 10:25pm

I’d bet the Clinton’s may be hiding out while this heats up. Their dear friend Mr. Jeffrey Epstien, might be getting his playtoys spanked.

Mike Cernovich of reader-supported Cernovich Media filed a motion to intervene in Giuffre v. Maxwell, a case involving a sex trafficking victim and an accused sex trafficker. Since filing a motion to intervene, two important updates have occurred.

Ghislaine Maxwell has been sued again!

Disgraced Wall Street mogul Jeffrey Epstein is being accused by a woman of luring her into his elaborate sex trafficking enterprise under the ruse he would use his wealth and connections to get her into college.

She has slapped him a federal lawsuit in US District Court in New York demanding damages for forcing her to perform sex acts on him, according to documents filed Thursday and obtained by DailyMail.com.

Using the alias ‘Jane Doe 43,’ the woman filed a federal lawsuit against Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, Sarah Kellen, Lesley Groff and Natalya Malyshev.

The victim’s lawyers filed an opposition to Maxwell’s motion for summary judgment. Each document filed therewith merely contains the caption and the word [REDACTED].

There is no way to tell what is going on in the case, as it has been filed under seal. This is a total cover-up and disagrace, as the public has a right to know what has happened.

Any party wishing to oppose our motion to intervene/unseal will need to do so on or before this coming Thursday, Feb. 2nd.

I’ll keep everyone updated!

Mike Cernovich

Cernovich Media

I see people still don’t know understand what a pedophile is.

If you are referring to me with this statement I will say right now that your comment is NOT the least bit funny and I would ask that a mod remove it and you. I hope that is not the case.

As for the legal case, do you have inside information with regards to Mr. Epstein that could exonerate him because if you do I’m sure plenty would like to see it. It is legal fact that he is a registered sex offender.

Yeah, I looked up who Epstein is. He’s accused of soliciting sex from underage girls as young as 14. That’s hebephilia, not pedophilia. Pedophiles like their kids much younger than that.

So you made the statement about me?

TV’s Frink said:

So why post it then?

It was an article I hadn’t read and I know the Clinton’s have been associated with Epstein. Is that a problem? And why the need to be rhetorical, nothing better to do tonight?

😉

TV’s Frink said:

TV’s Frink said:

I have no idea how it is relevant in the slightest, as usual.

So why comment then?

DuracellEnergizer said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Billionaire Pedophile’s Accused Madame Lawsuit Update!
Jan 31 at 10:25pm

I’d bet the Clinton’s may be hiding out while this heats up. Their dear friend Mr. Jeffrey Epstien, might be getting his playtoys spanked.

Mike Cernovich of reader-supported Cernovich Media filed a motion to intervene in Giuffre v. Maxwell, a case involving a sex trafficking victim and an accused sex trafficker. Since filing a motion to intervene, two important updates have occurred.

Ghislaine Maxwell has been sued again!

Disgraced Wall Street mogul Jeffrey Epstein is being accused by a woman of luring her into his elaborate sex trafficking enterprise under the ruse he would use his wealth and connections to get her into college.

She has slapped him a federal lawsuit in US District Court in New York demanding damages for forcing her to perform sex acts on him, according to documents filed Thursday and obtained by DailyMail.com.

Using the alias ‘Jane Doe 43,’ the woman filed a federal lawsuit against Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, Sarah Kellen, Lesley Groff and Natalya Malyshev.

The victim’s lawyers filed an opposition to Maxwell’s motion for summary judgment. Each document filed therewith merely contains the caption and the word [REDACTED].

There is no way to tell what is going on in the case, as it has been filed under seal. This is a total cover-up and disagrace, as the public has a right to know what has happened.

Any party wishing to oppose our motion to intervene/unseal will need to do so on or before this coming Thursday, Feb. 2nd.

I’ll keep everyone updated!

Mike Cernovich

Cernovich Media

I see people still don’t know understand what a pedophile is.

If you are referring to me with this statement I will say right now that your comment is NOT the least bit funny and I would ask that a mod remove it and you. I hope that is not the case.

As for the legal case, do you have inside information with regards to Mr. Epstein that could exonerate him because if you do I’m sure plenty would like to see it. It is legal fact that he is a registered sex offender.