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- Info: The Dark Knight - EE Reduction and Original Color Timing
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Thanks for the information. I wonder why they didn’t bother to include them on the W/S set?
Thanks for the information. I wonder why they didn’t bother to include them on the W/S set?
The Full IMAX scenes are available both on the TDK Ultimate Collector’s Edition BD set and the TDK Full Screen DVD.
The IMAX scenes are also included on TDK’s W/S 2-disc DVD.
Looking forward to seeing your comparison.
Hi SilverWook, JayArgonaut, pittrek, friedcamera, dark_jedi and all others.
I just came back from over two hours of videotape searching. I located a few unexpected things and thought I’d post the basic results of my search here…
…I also have extensive coverage of 9/11, as it happened, from several networks from that day.
Also, most, if not all of the televised coverage of President Clinton’s Senate Impeachment Trial from 1998 to 1999. Don’t ask…
Hundreds of hours on JFK, covering his presidency, life and assassination.
Many hours of programs on the following topics:
RFK
MLK, Jr.
Watergate/Richard Nixon
Pearl Harbor
The Titanic
Sam Shepherd case
Various U.S. and World historical events throughout history.So, anyone and everyone, please mark what you’re interested in and I’ll do my best to keep my wife from throwing the aforementioned videos at me… 😉
😄 This is like a dream come true! I’m very much interested in all of the above topics but in particular, “Various U.S. and World historical events throughout history.” I’ll PM you with my specific requests.
The resident troll cometh, with their perpetual need to belittle and mock others.
Enjoy. 😃
Correct but in the IGN interview he goes into further depth on the “capitalistic propaganda” of Zemeckis and co. Which is why I shared it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVNeFlIiceU&t=37s
Glover said in another interview that he hasn’t watched BTTF since 1985. In my opinion, he really ought to take a couple of hours to revisit it because he’s seriously misread the themes and messages of the film and he’s endlessly misrepresenting them (and the filmmakers) in his interviews. Note the IGN panel nodding their heads in agreement with his erroneous criticisms of BTTF and people in the comments section saluting him as a hero.
When Marty returns home and wakes up the following morning, he encounters a household where Strickland’s sneer that, “No McFly has ever amounted to anything in the history of Hill Valley” has lost all validity. His older brother Dave is no longer underemployed and his sister has the confidence and self-assuredness to form romantic relationships. As for his parents, the dynamic between them has changed on so many levels. Lorraine is a million miles removed from her dispirited, forlorn and unhealthy appearance at the beginning and we see George providing a strong, positive source of inspiration to his children as a happily married man who is prepared to take the risks to fulfil his aspirations and in turn is able to help his children also fulfil their aspirations.
As a result, the McFly’s are more cohesive as a family and they enjoy a higher standard of living than we saw at the beginning. Whilst they’re not outrageously wealthy on say, a Forbes 100 level, they do have a decent middle class existence.
Even that is too much for Glover, who accuses the filmmakers of glorifying material and monetary rewards and promoting propaganda to the audience? Where’s the “capitalistic” propaganda during the ending of BTTF? The McFly household is hardly Scarface with Tony Montana-esque garish nouveau riche furniture and decor - something which is actually satirised in the sequel.
What say you, my fellow film fanatics?
For an academic project, I’m bulk recording TV news broadcasts from a channel that transmits in 1080i and every so often I need to edit down the recordings to particular segments of relevance but there’s a frequent problem where in every video editor that I’ve tried, (Avidemux, MPEG Streamclip and F.C.P.) the recordings either don’t play properly (often because of video corruption) or simply crash the software. I’ve tried VideoRedo and other programs but with mixed results. Some files I can fix but not all.
However I’m always able to review the recordings on my PVR and watch them on my TV without any problems, so that’s got me thinking that surely I could just connect my PVR’s HDMI out to an HD capture box and let it capture the content in a lossless format that would be free of the problems and also easier to edit than AVCHD.
How viable is this idea and if so, what you would recommend as an external capture box for this purpose?
JayArgonaut, sure. The 2001 POTA tapes would contain things similar to what I previously posted about my X-Files Fight the Future VHS tapes and their contents. Mainly, interviews, commercials, entertainment show segments, Fox and local affiliate coverage, box office reports, cable new outlets reports, other specials and just about anything that aired at the time of the release. I just found the tapes and will attempt to scan the note cards with all the details on them for you.
Wow, “ST”, thanks for your extremely prompt response. I’m really impressed by the sheer extent and meticulousness of your archiving. You probably have material that even the studios have lost or forgotten about. I’ve long felt that a lot of home video releases wouldn’t be so below par in terms of extras if the studios employed people who really know how to research and took archiving seriously. This is a perfect example.
…and 2 tapes from the awful “Planet of the Apes” (2001) movie. Anyone interested in those?
Can you elaborate more on this please? Not the awfulness of the 2001 POTA movie but what’s on the tapes. 😃
JayArgonaut, no, sorry, I don’t have anything on video from B5.
No worries. It was worth a try, given the extent of your archives. 😃
Did you happen to record any of the POTA tv movies made by editing the series episodes together? In a few markets, they had new intros and outros by Roddy McDowall in full ape makeup as an older Galen. The only version of these in circulation looks really funky and low res, like the earliest video capture technology was used.
These turn up periodically (in PAL) on one of my FTA channels but it broadcasts at just 544 x 576 and has a permanent logo in the corner. Nonetheless, I can keep an eye out for the next airings in case they’re better than what you already have.
So if anyone on this forum is looking for anything specific, don’t hesitate to ask.
Just wondered, do you have the TV recordings of the Babylon 5 run?
Any particular need for a print scan?
The bluray screwed up the collars! What was the TRUE theatrical timing? I saw it 7 times in 1960 and the only medium that felt “right” since then was the discovision release!
I’m going to be 100% honest and say that I can’t tell whether you’re joking, as the movie is in B&W, though if you’re serious, I actually had no idea the colors/shades/tints/whatever were incorrect on the BD.
See my comments here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Psycho-HDTV-broadcast-vs-50th-anniversary-Blu-ray/id/50132
That’s interesting about the SAT.1 broadcasts, at some point I will have to look into getting a dish as that would give me so many more options. I don’t have Film 4 HD on my channel line up - as that did cross my mind.
I contacted C4 to ask if there’s any possibility they’ll show it again in the near future, uncut and received the following response…
Unfortunately there are no current plans to repeat this programme, however, I will pass on your interest for this film to be repeated post watershed to those responsible for our programming.
Let’s see what happens. 😃
Not for long though…
Thanks for alerting me. I just checked and it is unfortunately censored. To run it at that time slot but cut to ribbons is so annoying. I’ve heard “bastards” and “bitch” uttered during the daytime on other channels! Maybe they might show an unadulterated version in a few months or next year…
I set my PVR to record this on the off-chance that James Cameron and his minions haven’t got round to ensuring that only the 2012 master is available to TV stations. The continuity errors and colour grading seen on the home video versions prior to 2012 are present here.
For example: visible lighting equipment in this shot.

Scenery visible in the background, right behind the stairway.

See here for further details: http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=935850







I doubt they would scan a whole new transfer without DNR just to show it on television. It would be so much easier to just use the same blu-ray master.
That is true, however alternate or older masters frequently turn up during TV airings. This is exactly what happened recently with broadcasts of Predator and Psycho. I suspect it also might be the case with the ITV broadcast.
Here’s a comparison of the same shot from a Blu-ray rip and the ITV airing. Note that the former suffers from horizontal and vertical cropping whilst the latter has a more visible area and lacks the “Coming Summer 1990” title that is present on the Blu-ray and DVD.


Judging by the caps, would you say the ITV broadcast exhibits any signs of the DVNR & EE that are present on the Blu-ray?
Thanks for doing this, I’m looking forward to seeing the extended cut. Just a thought, surely the transition between the Blu-ray and TV footage (aspect ratios and picture quality) is going to be really jarring? Would it not work out better to just show the TV version as it is, warts and all?
Not sure where you live but I prefer to wait and buy it from amazon.co.uk. If I buy it from amazon.com it might arrive even later than from amazon.co.uk
I’m in the UK and there’s many ways to obtain imports without a long wait. 😃
The new BD just dropped to $15 on amazon.
The UK Region B/2 release isn’t scheduled till July 18th. I might look for a US import…
ITV1 HD aired BTTF II over the weekend and thankfully during the evening, which meant it was uncut for the first time in years. How does this broadcast compare to the Blu-ray? Does it exhibit the same DVNR and EE problems? If you think it’s sourced from a different master, I’ll record BTTF III this Friday. 😃
48 screen grabs available here: http://imgur.com/a/GGkQ0























No, since that’s more of a remastering attempt.
Cool.
We’re amassing quite a list…
Here’s another addition: James Cameron strikes again, this time applying orange and teal to the remastered Blu-ray release of The Terminator.
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/hd-talk/606990-terminator-remastered-2-19-2013-a-3.html
From the Special Edition DVD onwards, The Matrix has been altered on a colour level in order to match the look of its sequels.
http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/articles/the-matrix-visual-comparison.html
Jedit: does “digital alterations” also include DVNR?