The mods intervened in the TLJ review thread once everyone’s opinions on SJWs/feminism became clear. Might be time for that here.
If you have nothing new to add to the discussion, you might want to consider that you’ve made your point and it’s time to move on to something else. That goes for everybody.
i’m surprised by how popular TPM is here. everyone i know IRL or elsewhere thinks it’s the worst by far.
Everybody hates Jar-Jar and that’s what most people remember about it.
I compartmentalize while watching, setting aside Jar-Jar, midichlorians, and the sometimes awkward dialog/acting. Out of the three, it feels the most like a Star Wars movie to me.
Hmmm…you believe different than I do? Ok, you’re going to be tortured forever after you die.
Oh, and that other guy who led a terrible life, raped, robbed, murdered, kicked puppies and pushed down old ladies, but accepted Jesus as his savior right at the end? He’s a better person than you are.
Nah, doesn’t seem like a shitty belief system at all.
A guy who accepts getting saved at the end isn’t gonna fool God if he’s not sincere. And if he’s sincere? Why wouldn’t that matter?
I mean how would such a guy have heard of Jesus anyway if not for someone else taking time to point it out to him. Someone who noticed he was on a destructive path and took a lot of effort to help him onto a better one?
I don’t know why you’d be against the idea that even a horrible person could find a way to redeem themselves. I mean can criminals be rehabilitated or not? Should we lock people up forever on a 1st offense? Or should we give them other chances?
A rapist and murderer who legitimately gives his life to Christ is less of a sinner than me.
I’d just like to say that this is not really how it works. The rapist/murderer is not less of a sinner than you. He did not sin less than you just because that sin is forgiven. But, he will be saved rather than you, because he gave complete recognition to the person who bought him the choice to ask for forgiveness.
And it’s still just as repulsive of an idea.
If you say so. I suppose I better just move on with my repulsive and shitty life, though maybe I could better my reputation by murdering a few unborn children with no medical issues.
Dude…
I’m attacking an idea. Never called you a terrible or crappy person.
When you attack an idea that’s at the core of a person’s belief system, it’s kind of tough for them not to take it personally.
Hahaha YES. The comedy I’ve been waiting for.
All three prequels above ESB. And we’re supposed to ignore these posts. Lol.
I mean you think the ST are good films so if we’re gonna start taking cheap shots two can play at that game.
I don’t rank them above ESB so your point is irrelevant.
Right. I forgot dissenting opinions aren’t allowed. We should just all post an identical ranking over and over again to stilt discussion, because it’s not like this is a forum or anything.
Here’s an actual question for you…why do you consider all three theatrical prequels better than Empire Strikes Back?
If you’re actually wondering why, I’ll bite.
I’m not going to comment on why I think ROTS is better purely because I feel that film has enough defenders as is; I’m sure you disagree with them, but you’ve probably heard arguments for the film time and time again, so there’s no point repeating them. Dumbing it down, I think it’s both visually and emotionally more impactful, while having a more interesting plot and contributing more to the saga’s lore as a whole; but that’s just my opinion.
As for TPM and AOTC being ranked higher?
First of all I want to make one thing clear; I think on a technical level, one based purely on physical filmmaking and nothing else; ESB is undoubtedly the best Star Wars film. Its direction, artistry and dare I say, acting, is unmatched to this day.However, that’s not all I look for in a Star Wars film. I’ve always been more concerned with the overall story of the saga of films I - VI than technical details. You can disagree with this notion and that’s fine, but that’s just my preference.
I think the world-building, the expansion of the lore and the incredibly detailed plot of TPM and AOTC far outweigh that of the OT. Do I think the execution is better? No. The execution of the OT (At least ANH and ESB), is fantastic. The execution of the Prequels? Not so much. But I much prefer an interesting experience over a play by the numbers one; there are plenty of ‘legendary’ films that hit all the technical beats, but few as interesting as the prequels.
I’m not going super in-depth because I’ve spent years on this site frequently just getting trolled for my viewpoints so I don’t want to pump heaps of time into a response, so I’m trying to keep it simple.
Essentially what I’m saying is that everyone pulls different things from Star Wars. Some people are just interested in seeing the best technically made film possible, and that’s totally fine. If we’re judging the films purely on those merits I’d say TFA is better than ROTJ, but that’s not all I personally care about.
I know it gets made fun of a lot but I personally think George’s vision for a one complete story told over six films is incredibly interesting and valuable, and I view all six films as one large piece, so I judge them more on what they add to the overall story than what I do as an individual work of art.
If you disagree, totally cool, this kind of thing is subjective, but that’s just where I stand.
I’m coming into this a bit late, but I was clicking around testing the site after doing some maintenance and stumbled on this post. I also think the prequels (and their supporters) tend to get judged more harshly than is warranted — both here and elsewhere — and I’m glad there are counterpoints to those opinions. I started this site to push for the preservation of the OT, not to be anti-PT. I enjoy them for what they are and wish they were more in some ways.
And TPM is my favorite of the PT. There, I said it 😛
I’m up to episode 6. Parker Posey is brilliant in this. Master manipulator, criminally insane.
Haven’t watched it yet, but plan to. I’m kind of glad to hear they kept it family-friendly like the original show, though I’m hoping it adheres to the more serious tone of the early episodes rather than the camp of later episodes.
As much as I loved the gritty BSG reboot, not all new sci-fi needs to be hard sci-fi.
- Oh ok, so it’s all dahmage’s fault for inviting me to some stupid clipboard topic that he wanted to test out and then mind-tricked me into leaving. Any ETA on the next update?
Maybe a week or so. I’m working on the ability to mark forums as read.
Already have that working, so it’ll be in the next update.
Still not working.
You left a private topic without having read the most recent reply, which makes your private topics marker perpetually unread. I’ve fixed this for the next update so that topics you’ve left don’t count toward unread topics.
Also, not exactly the right place to post this, but I’m seeing new issues with the unread posts marker. It’s the opposite problem now, where the marker is cleared on the main page even thought there’s still unread posts in the subforum.
It’s always worked this way. If your session ends, discussion markers are cleared. Topic markers aren’t.
Fixed.
I’ve made a fix that hopefully addresses this issue. Let me know if you see this problem again.
Fixed.
I think I have this fixed. It’ll be in the next update.
The styles will be fixed when the content updates go live.
You don’t have to scroll all the way down to the bottom to mark a topic as read; just viewing it (any page) should do it.
Certain data is cached to improve performance, such as the header content (which includes the bubble). When you view a topic, that clears the header cache, but occasionally the refreshed header will load before the topic is marked as read in the database, which means the unread bubble is cached again. I’ve seen it get out of sync like this occasionally and will take a look at fixing it. Logging out and back in should clear it.
oojason has written a bunch of new content for the About and Help sections that will be incorporated into one of the next few updates.
Our TOS are boilerplate legalese meant to cover us under any and all circumstances. If there any lawyers who want to make recommendations, I’m open, but I don’t plan on editing them.
Agree that the rules should be stickied or added to the primary navigation (or both).
Can we edit private thread titles? (if we can, i can’t seem to figure it out)
This is fixed for the next release. I can’t remember what logic led me to think editing private topic titles shouldn’t be allowed, but it doesn’t make sense to me now.
Fixed, thanks Jay!
Hm, now it seems that the new mouse-over is breaking alt-text for images. before it would show the title text when hovering.
see http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1199720/action/topic#1199720
Good catch. I’ve rewritten the zoom overlay to preserve the title attribute hover state and it’ll be in the next release.
Kubrick personally signed off on the Criterion Laserdisc master though.
If it was in line with other masters at the time, he may have been fine with it not quite looking like film; the limited color space of NTSC didn’t give colorists a lot of flexibility. And we don’t know how much he cared about getting the color spot-on for home viewing. Maybe he wasn’t as picky about color as he was about framing.
Reminds me of the 70mm print I saw in November. Looks legit.
I think bad NTSC masters throughout the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s established a preference for color timing that was never close to the original film.
I could make the icon background a mosaic reminiscent of Japanese porn.
assheads
Don’t you mean “asshats”?
No.
paja is an annoying guy.
FTFY
Don’t start.
I’m just thrilled that we have an administrator telling people to shut the fuck up. I’ve always wondered if that was okay, now I know!
I mean if that’s your way of encouraging people to get along, I guess that’s one way to go.
Don’t be mean children, that might hurt somebody’s feelings. Also Shut the fuck up!
I’m just thrilled by the precedent, no sarcasm.
I’m not here to encourage anyone. That was your parents’ job while you were growing up. I’m here to run the forum and ensure people follow the rules with the help of the moderators. Anyone who needs encouragement on how to behave from a forum moderator needs to reevaluate their life.
The reason the rules were laid out the way they were is because without them, the forum had become a toxic mess. I hate that we need to provide basic guidelines on how to behave; my approach here for many years was to remain as hands-off as possible and let people work out their own differences. Unfortunately, the checks and balances in public life that keep people from being complete assheads to one another don’t exist online, so some folks need it all spelled out for them. For many, the rules seem to be there just to see how far they can push it before the mods lose patience and tell them to knock it off; for others, it’s not about an inability to follow the rules so much as an inability to let anything at all slide — as if the mere existence of a post they don’t agree with requires them to respond.
If there’s any further back-and-forth between members in this topic or anywhere else, it’ll be time to ban some people. Please stop.
shut the fuck up now.
Now THERE’S leadership. Is this an example of how we are allowed to talk to each other? Because I’m frankly extremely on board.
It’s an example of how I talk to people who can’t get along without adult supervision. Some of you are beyond childish.
Anyone who can’t keep it together is welcome to find another forum to litter with trash posts.
