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sonnyboo said:

It's just from the Blu Ray and over 6 years since I last saw Return of the Jedi

It's interesting that the OP and I were exactly the same age (11) when we saw Jedi in '83, and yet our opinions are wildly different. I love Jedi and while some parts, I agree, could have been done better - I enjoyed it immensely when it was released and felt it was a fitting end to the trilogy. None of the OP's criticisms ever crossed my mind in '83. And Leia's bikini? Yeah that had an effect on my 11 year-old brain.

One more thing - while Wookiees instead of Ewoks would have certainly been cool, it brings up other problems since Wookiees weren't primitive - they were space-faring and already allied with the rebellion. It would have been a completely different movie, beyond simply replacing Ewoks with Wookiees, is what I'm saying.

I'm glad to see that this tense situation has appropriately devolved into good-natured, homoerotic barbs.

Wow, I had no idea the sound had been changed so much. Thank the maker so many talented people here have preserved the original audio mixes.

doubleofive said:

Would you believe that by the time I got down there, I had stopped reading the descriptions and missed the only funny one?

Sling Blade Runner
Hunting down replicants - and french fried potaters.

Erikstormtrooper said:

People just want to sit down and enjoy Star Wars without all the SE crap.

TV's Frink said:

Might want to fix your formatting there.

Mike O said:

Well, we've been battling forever, and first wound up with the GOUT and now this. It's just hard not to finally just throw up my hands.

SW vs ST?

Apples and oranges.

hitfan, if there was a channel that only ever showed the movies you list in your post, I would subscribe to it.

I will never for get the line at the end of the Empire of Dreams doc on the DVDs...

"In 1997, Lucas would revisit and perfect his trilogy."

Dr. Pepper out my nose when I saw that one.

zombie84 said:

Should we start figuring out a way to tunnel under Skywalker Ranch and steal the original negatives?

 ON IT!

*runs out the door with a shovel*

NECRO'D!!

This comes out really soon.  Is anyone from OT.com playing?

TV's Frink said:

Mr. Bungle said:

hairy_hen said:

I dunno.  While I personally would never have been that rude if I were actually trying to communicate with her, the 'hypocritical, insufferable cunt' remark made me laugh quite a bit, because it's not so far from the truth.

The 'raped my childhood' type of comments are a pretty poor choice of words, of course, but it does seem like the defenders are the ones who are actually using them the most.

I agree that it's a poor choice. And while I'm not defending its usage, I'm not offended by it, either.

Just because you aren't offended by something doesn't mean it isn't offensive.

 Well, it does mean it isn't offensive to the person who isn't offended.

xhonzi said:I haven't seen any totals yet, but I bet Gears of War 3 totally walks all over this sales figure.

The first week it will sell a million units or so in NA and make probably around $200M+ in sales.  And they're selling only to people that have xbox 360s, so the potential market is much smaller to boot.

SW BD seems like a fairly modest succes in comparison. 

EDIT: Spoke too soon.  Looks like GoW3 sold 1.3 M copies in the past 3 days.

 Based on the sample size of my household, Gears 3 is outselling the Star Wars blu-rays 1-0.

TV's Frink said:

Harmy said:

8) Forrest Gump

9) American Pie

Your list is now invalid :p

 I hate Forrest Gump.  But I would never begrudge anyone for liking what they like.  I myself am quite fond of some pretty objectively bad films *cough*Russ Meyer*cough*.

The funny things is, my favorite filmmakers, bar none, are Stanley Kubrick and the Coen Brothers.  However, none of their films would probably crack my top 10.  That's just how it shakes out.

I wouldn't classify them as my favorite movies, but I could watch them over and over without getting tired of them more than any other films, if that makes any sense.

It's funny, because GL's decisions regarding the special editions and prequels has not only made me question his current connection to the Star Wars universe, but it's forced me to reconsider how much of the OT's success can truly be attributed to him and him alone.  The prequels are pretty clearly a testament to what kind of product George will produce when he surrounds himself with yes men and the ideas are 100% his.

If it weren't for his contributions over the past 15 years, I never would have doubted that the OT was 99% his vision.  But now I do.  That's irony.

IMHO, the prequels should have been set THOUSANDS of years before the OT.  Completely original story and characters in the same universe as the OT.  If any of you have played Knights of the Old Republic, you know what I'm talking about.  This would avoid all problems with continuity and visual anachronisms.

In TPM, Darth Maul says, "At last we will have our revenge [on the Jedi]".  What is he talking about?  No one knows - this is a complete nonsense line within the context of the films.  The prequels should have been about THAT.

jamiemark said:

Alexrd said:

jamiemark said:

I don't want the damn prequels, having them on DVD is bad enough. 

Then why have you bought them?

Temporary insanity.

 LOL!  You and me both, jamie.  You and me both.

S_Matt said:

The excuse that it'll cost too much to restore the theatrical versions is complete BS - experts estimate that it'd cost $100k per film TOPS. They have prints, they have IP's they have negatives, they have the 1997 SE's as archival negatives - all they need to do is scan those, chop out anything with SE content in it and drop in theatrical bits, which being isolated short sections of footage, they can get from whatever source is best on a case by case basis. Throw in some color-correction and paint out some dirt and damage and boom, done.

 I'm thinking they should give some of the talented members here $100,000 and access to the Skywalker Ranch, and see what happens.

               INT. '74 CHEVY (MOVING) – MORNING
 
An old gas guzzling, dirty, white 1974 Chevy Nova BARRELS 
down a homeless-ridden street in Hollywood. In the front 
seat are two young fellas – one white, one black – both 
wearing cheap black suits with thin black ties under long 
green dusters. Their names are VINCENT VEGA (white) and JULES 
WINNFIELD (black). Jules is behind the wheel.
 
JULES
– Okay now, tell me about the blu-rays?
 
VINCENT
So what you want to know?
 
JULES
Well, Star Wars is changed more, right?
 
VINCENT
Yeah, it's changed, but is ain't a hundred percent changed. I mean they 
can't change Ewoks into Wookiees, roll a joint, and start puffin' away. 
They're only supposed to change old effects or certain designated lines.
 
JULES
Those are in Jedi?
 
VINCENT
Yeah, it breaks down like this: it's legal to buy it, it's legal to own 
it and, if you're the creator of a fan edit, it's legal to distribute it. 
It's legal to download it, which doesn't really matter 'cause – get a 
load of this – if Lucasfilm stops you, it's illegal for them to search 
you. Searching you is a right that Lucas actually doesn't have.
 
JULES
That did it, man – I'm fuckin' downloadin', that's all there is to it.
 
VINCENT
You'll dig it the most. But you know what the funniest thing about 
the blu-rays is?
 
JULES
What?
 
VINCENT
The little differences. A lotta the same shit we got here, they 
got there, but there they're a little different.
 
JULES
Examples?
 
VINCENT
Well, in the blu-ray, they got a new sound mix. And I don't 
mean Dolby Digital 5.1 either. They got an all new DTS-MA 
track. In Jedi, you can see Jar-Jar dancing at the end. Also, 
you know what Han says before he shoots the Sarlacc tentacle 
to save Lando?
 
JULES
He doesn’t say, “Trust me?”
 
VINCENT
No, Indiana Jones said that once. They wouldn't want people 
to get confused.
 
JULES
What's he say?
 
VINCENT
“It’s ok I can see a lot better.”
 
JULES
(disbelieving)
... 
What'd they do with Vader?
 
VINCENT
Vader's Vader, but he yells, “Nooooo” some more. 
 
JULES
(chuckling)
Nooooo. What about Phantom Menace?
 
VINCENT
I dunno, I didn't watch the prequels.  But you know what 
they put on the bonus discs instead of the original trilogy?
 
JULES
What?
 
VINCENT
Boba Fett cartoon.
 
JULES
Goddamn!
 
VINCENT
I seen 'em do it. And I don't mean a Clone Wars cartoon, 
this is from the Holiday Special.
 
JULES
Uuccch!