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- #198622
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- BEAUTIFUL WOMEN NEW RULES IN FIRST POST (NSFW) UPDATED RULES
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198622/action/topic#198622
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- #198620
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- Violence VS. Non-Violence ~~~ Debate
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198620/action/topic#198620
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Originally posted by: JediSage
So, is it your assertion that the holocaust can't be judged to be "evil" because one opinion is as valid as the other? Is it a matter of opinion that the two kids who killed all those people at Columbine were'nt evil because evil is only an idea? Is it your assertion that slavery in the United States was neither good nor evil because those ideas don't exist? Using this logic I can walk into your house and steal your tv with impunity, because hey, good and evil are only opinions.
Relativism. What a way to be. It's proponents espouse it as the ultimate system of belief while condeming those who don't go along with it...more like the ultimate in hypocrisy. There are absolutely no absolutes...
Originally posted by: Devilman-1369
evil is just a matter of opinion (as is 'good'), so a world with NO evil is just as impossible as a world with NO good.
it's all a matter of opinion
besides, 'good' & 'evil' have nothing to do with 'violence' or 'non-violence'
the 'evil' ones aren't always the ones to instigate violence...think of the Crusades, The Salem Witch Hunt, WWII (hey, the nazis thought they were the good guys...and if they had won that war, history would remember them as heros)
evil is just a matter of opinion (as is 'good'), so a world with NO evil is just as impossible as a world with NO good.
it's all a matter of opinion
besides, 'good' & 'evil' have nothing to do with 'violence' or 'non-violence'
the 'evil' ones aren't always the ones to instigate violence...think of the Crusades, The Salem Witch Hunt, WWII (hey, the nazis thought they were the good guys...and if they had won that war, history would remember them as heros)
So, is it your assertion that the holocaust can't be judged to be "evil" because one opinion is as valid as the other? Is it a matter of opinion that the two kids who killed all those people at Columbine were'nt evil because evil is only an idea? Is it your assertion that slavery in the United States was neither good nor evil because those ideas don't exist? Using this logic I can walk into your house and steal your tv with impunity, because hey, good and evil are only opinions.
Relativism. What a way to be. It's proponents espouse it as the ultimate system of belief while condeming those who don't go along with it...more like the ultimate in hypocrisy. There are absolutely no absolutes...
I didn't read all of this and didn't realize what I had said was already touched upon. Good point, and well lol, you can tell I agree.
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- #198616
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- Violence VS. Non-Violence ~~~ Debate
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198616/action/topic#198616
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
"An eye for an eye will make everyone blind"
NOTHING justifies violence. Nothing.
"An eye for an eye will make everyone blind"
NOTHING justifies violence. Nothing.
There's the ticket, we agree on that one Ric. Good quote btw, who is it again?
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- #198615
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- Violence VS. Non-Violence ~~~ Debate
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198615/action/topic#198615
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Originally posted by: Warbler
I do not know wheither it is true or not. But many argue that Japan was willing to surrender before the bomb was dropped.
I do not know wheither it is true or not. But many argue that Japan was willing to surrender before the bomb was dropped.
This is definitely a possibility. And this sparks a new discussion--if the justification of violence is made only by ourselves, than can't we justify any kind of violence? Isn't it all the same?
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- #198613
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- Violence VS. Non-Violence ~~~ Debate
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198613/action/topic#198613
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It appears from all your comments that:
1. "Without evil, there can be no good" (quoted from Darth Enzo), which can be said about anything; if everyone was stupid, than no one would be stupid because 'stupid' would be normal.
2. We do not live in a perfect world so there can be 2 positions taken at the same time in this debate; non-violence in a perfect world, and violence in our own. Do you agree?
3. 'Justice', 'Vengeance', and possibly 'Pay-back' are all forms of justification for violence based upon statement 2's 'non-perfect world'.
Saying these things makes me wonder.....
If there can be no good without evil--then why couldn't there be no 'unjustified murder' if there is presently 'justified murder'. What I'm saying is if murder is murder, and the only thing seperating 'justified murder' from 'unjustified murder' is personal opinion and piece of mind......then isn't all murder the same, and using words like 'vengeance' and 'justice' are just defense mechanisms created by our brains to protect us from guilt?
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- #198611
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- Ask the All-Knowing Jagdlieter
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198611/action/topic#198611
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LOL
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- #198610
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- Ask the All-Knowing Jagdlieter
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198610/action/topic#198610
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Originally posted by: Warbler
I do hope the women not actually kicking a real baby. That would be sick.
I do hope the women not actually kicking a real baby. That would be sick.
Unforunately (kidding...) she's not.
And your question about Philidelphia......the answer is yes.
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- #198609
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- Ask the All-Knowing Jagdlieter
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198609/action/topic#198609
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
"I doubt your internet is very fast at all if it slows you down. "
I must agree. I'm on DSL, and it's no problem here.
BTW, What is the average airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
"I doubt your internet is very fast at all if it slows you down. "
I must agree. I'm on DSL, and it's no problem here.
BTW, What is the average airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
It depends what kind of unladen swallow you are talking about, can you be more specific?
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- #198608
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- The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198608/action/topic#198608
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- #198513
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- What do you drive?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198513/action/topic#198513
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- #198512
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- Ask the All-Knowing Jagdlieter
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198512/action/topic#198512
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- #198511
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- Rankings
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198511/action/topic#198511
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And I admit not knowing what the 'ranking' referred to. So now that I know, #1 would definitely be bad.
EDIT: Correction 53, maybe 54 now I don't understand how it works I guess.....
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- #198510
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- Violence VS. Non-Violence ~~~ Debate
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198510/action/topic#198510
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
As we look at history, the dropping of the bomb on Hiroshima remains justified, as the massive death was still paltry compared to the amount of death that would have been caused by a protracted invasion of Japan. Sometimes violence is supported by bean counting. Doesn't mean we will rest easy with the thought, and it doesn't mean the afterlife will be any kinder to us for making those kinds of decisions, but this is perhaps the ultimate example that answers the question.
As we look at history, the dropping of the bomb on Hiroshima remains justified, as the massive death was still paltry compared to the amount of death that would have been caused by a protracted invasion of Japan. Sometimes violence is supported by bean counting. Doesn't mean we will rest easy with the thought, and it doesn't mean the afterlife will be any kinder to us for making those kinds of decisions, but this is perhaps the ultimate example that answers the question.
Your argument may be that a lesser evil can be justified by a greater good, but isn't NO evil the greatest good of all?
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- #198392
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- Ask the All-Knowing Jagdlieter
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198392/action/topic#198392
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- #198388
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- A "Star Wars" reference I'd love to see on "24"
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198388/action/topic#198388
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- #198386
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- BEAUTIFUL WOMEN NEW RULES IN FIRST POST (NSFW) UPDATED RULES
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198386/action/topic#198386
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- #198384
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- Ask the All-Knowing Jagdlieter
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198384/action/topic#198384
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- #198383
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- Violence VS. Non-Violence ~~~ Debate
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198383/action/topic#198383
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- #198381
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- A Frightening Possibility
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198381/action/topic#198381
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- #198380
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- Rankings
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198380/action/topic#198380
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- #198379
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- Ask the All-Knowing Jagdlieter
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198379/action/topic#198379
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- #198366
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- Violence VS. Non-Violence ~~~ Debate
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198366/action/topic#198366
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Ok... I believe that violence(let's just call it murder) is never justifiable because nothing can be gained from it.
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- #198365
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- Violence VS. Non-Violence ~~~ Debate
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198365/action/topic#198365
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**Do you believe violence, more specifically murder, can be justified? Why or why not?
**Or do you believe that violence is never justifiable?
Let the debating begin!!!
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- #198362
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- Violence in Video games a fad?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198362/action/topic#198362
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Well said, I do agree with the whole "crazy matrix" fantasy. I kill people sometimes in my head. Well I used to. Now I'm a pacifist. But the point is, you're 100% correct.
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- #198358
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- Ask the All-Knowing Jagdlieter
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198358/action/topic#198358
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Your question was a bit well....it was retarded(in a non-physically challenged way of course).
Did I answer correctly?