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- #1514090
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- Return of the Jedi Renewed (released)
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I would like to join the next wave of link PMs as well, please š
I would like to join the next wave of link PMs as well, please š
It doesnāt really affect anything. He could have simply told Yaddle he wasnāt going out of grief and then, after the TotJ duel, felt bad and decided to show up and watch Qui-Gonās burning, albeit probably from afar like in Snookerās mock-up, after all.
Yaddle told him the council was going to the funeral before the duel, but Palpatine was present for both that duel and the funeral. If Palpatine had time to drop the Sidious persona, regroup with his Chancellor entourage and rendezvous with the council and the Naboo for the funeral, thereās nothing stopping Dooku from making it to Naboo in time for Qui-Gonās cremation as well.
Everything here sounds great to me! Iād love to give it a watch please š
I mean⦠if you do end up uploading it in the meantime, Iād like a link as well, since those changes pretty much exactly fit my ideal ESB as well! š
Me three! Always enjoy your novel edits.
Obviously Iām not about to share the document around
If you arenāt aware OP, though Iām not a super active poster myself, I know novel fan edits have been shared 'round here before! Just in case your concern primarily lies with copyright/piracy. Pretty much more or less relies on the same āIf Iām asking for a link it means I own this book alreadyā honor system as with edits of the movies/shows themselves and owning a disc and/or having a Disney+ subscription.
That said @daveytod, if you do decide to share your doc, Iād definitely be interested in a link š
Itās definitely good to see youāre alive and well, AlaskanSandman!!
Dazman has already said hello in this thread, but since he didnāt toot his own horn Iāll go ahead and do it! Have you seen his incredible work on fixing up shots and adding VFX throughout Phantom Menace?
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Phantom-Menace-Improved-Edition-10-years-on-the-forum-edit-Released/id/91544/page/2#1485011
A lot of his work overlaps with yours, such as city lights on the Naboo and Tatooine planets in space, nicer lightsabers, and so on. From his OP, it namely boasts hundreds of cuts, tens of added slight sharpening effects to blurry shots, about 75 Audition audio edits, about 170 After Effect shots, and new short shots from upscaled dvd footage, so far too much to enumerate, but from a casual watch I thought his work did a fantastic job at revitalizing the film after two decades!
While I canāt speak for anyone else, I definitely think the best TPM cut would be one that consolidates all of the visual work both you and Dazman have put in; is there any chance youāve considered collaborating on that front?
This isnāt particularly relevant to the edit itself, but I saw you updated the editās poster quite recently and wanted to share this version of a RotS/TSoM mural-art-based poster you might be interested in taking from.
Jason Palmer (the mural artist) has drawn Bo-Katan and Padme before, which makes those pieces particularly suitable for editing. The Ahsoka stands out a bit more as fan-edited, but I think the slightly aged up face and lekku/montrals with the Siege outfit and sabers look more than good enough.
- Putting Dooku in TPM, perhaps during the funeral, like Snooker did here>
Apologies if this has already been covered, but is there a mirror or updated link to this clip? Itās down but I for one would quite like to see this concept. TheAlaskanSandman only ever posted stills, and NV IIās clip on Youtube is rather rough.
Heyo! Does anyone have a copy of or link to the latest version of tangelo1023ās canon Labyrinth of Evil and Darth Plagueis edits, please and thanks?
Heyo! Interested as well, Iād love to see all the hard VFX work in motion please š
Iād love to read this (and the latest version of Labyrinth of Evil) as well, please!
At present Iāve just finished adding your edit to my e-reader library, and everything displays like it should so thatās a good sign! Iāve tried editing epubs with Calibre myself in the past (to add covers to epubs that donāt have them) and I was having problems, so itās a relief to see that your version doesnāt have formatting issues on my device. Iām not a slow reader, but I do make slow progress since I tend to only read on my commute, so I will definitely try to provide feedback as soon as I can.
Iām glad to hear that you plan to tackle RotS, as itās easily the best of the movie novelizations and would definitely do well to exist alongside everything that has come after it. I also agree that the general prospect of novel fanediting holds a lot of potential for the SW community. On one hand, people can make canon-friendly versions of their favorite Legends novels, which is an exciting prospect for canon junkies.
Plus, on the other hand, novels that are already canon can have their inconsistencies smoothed over for easier reading. For example, Ahsoka doesnāt match the Siege of Mandalore from TCW S7, in the TFA novel Rey and Poe meet but on-screen they donāt until TLJ (among other issues with the TFA novel stemming from it using an old script), in Lords of the Sith the same royal guard dies twice, and iirc Vader Annual 2 doesnāt match Catalyst. Iāve also seen people say that Tarkin has weirdness about his flagship Executrix and debuts the Interdictor before it appears in Rebels, and a character named Arsin Crassus appears in Aftermath: Life Debt despite dying in Aftermath, though Iām less familiar with those issues as I have yet to read those novels.
edit: A few more canon issues: Escape from Vodran contradicts the Poe Dameron comic regarding Snapās wedding (a dead character is there while Leia is not), Aftermathās End says Leia got pregnant on Endor but Bloodline says it happened on the Falcon, Bloodline also says Leia wanted to join the rebels from 15 despite not learning until 16, Aftermath doesnāt state Akiva is a Rebel planet despite it having a Rebel prison in a comic, Lost Stars says a Star Destroyer has never been captured and also doesnāt mention Scarif, Princess of Alderaan has Leia on Crait despite Storms of Crait saying it was her first time there, and Princess of Alderaan also says that Breha was an only child and focuses strongly on Leiaās royal upbringing yet does not mention Leiaās overbearing aunts from Legends that are mentioned in Moving Target and Royal Rebel (RR also claims Leia went straight to Hoth after the Princess Leia comics, which contradicts those comics and all of the other stuff with Leia in it between ANH and ESB). Of course, most of these are extremely minor, but then I imagine most edits that would be done to most novels would be fairly minor.
Labyrinth of Evil is one of the best SW novels ever put out, so naturally Iād chomp at the bit to read a version that gels with TCW S7! Iād love a link.
Do you plan on looking at the rest of the Dark Lord Trilogy or any other Legends books?
Iād also appreciate a link to the older versions!
Iām also curious!
I would as well.
I PMād you for links a moment ago, but ended up deciding to post here as well; I saw that your eight-film version is well underway which is exciting! Iām only just beginning to download, but I do personally think that 8 films would work best. That said, taking the upcoming series into consideration it seems like Bad Batch would be really important to slot in somewhere. Maybe in lieu of the Martez Sisters arc?
So, I want to say that I really enjoyed this edit! I felt that it flowed very well and that your style of editing did well to strengthen the story beats of both Revenge of the Sith and the Siege of Mandalore.
In terms of criticisms, thereās really not much to say. NFBismsā edit is solid, and your insertions work well. I do think you might want work on the transitions between RotS and TCW by including some wipes or something instead of hard cuts, and I find that RotS was much louder than the TCW footage so the audio transitions were jarring as well. I also think the crawl text might need revising, and the post-credits Vader scene could probably be bumped up closer to the end of the credits; a minute between is quite a long time.
This is a really strong start and I think you have something great on your hands!
We as fans know what lightspeed skipping is, but without the prior scene to give us context of it, itās just the Star Wars universe usual technobabble. To the average viewer, it doesnāt actually mean anything more than compressor this, subalternator that. I agree that itās better for the pacing of the scene and for the characters to have the full dialogue.
edit; nevermind, I misunderstood and thought we were discussing Rey and Poeās talking about lightspeed skipping (which I do still think is probably less jarring to just leave in even though we donāt see it.) I donāt particularly think the actual act of lightspeed skipping should stay. Itās just pretty visuals with some absurd implications.
Considering they donāt have world destroying cannons in this edit, the clearing up is already done.
Batuu is a very interesting idea I hadnāt thought of! Thereād be an abundance of shots and angles to use too.
Regarding Kijimi, this is all I can find that shows the sky and doesnāt have any people or anything in it. Maybe some simple vfx of some snow falling could bring it to life? https://www.starwars.com/databank/kijimi-city
Given that we have a planet from each trilogy, I think a logical and exciting step may be to include a planet from outside of the nine movies. A Clone Wars, Rebels, Mandalorian or even video game cameo would be exciting, and not unprecedented given Kanan and Ahsokaās cameo.
Personally, my vote would go to Dathomir for appearing in both animated series as well as Jedi: Fallen Order, and I imagine the latter would have a realistic enough shot to insert a Star Destroyer into. Failing that, Nevarro, Mandalore, or even a planet from Rogue One or Solo (Corellia?) would be neat.
I still am quite fond of the Battlefront shots that Kewlfish and Movies Remastered worked on, with the color corrected backgrounds and recolored bolts, but otherwise thatās just about perfect I think!
Another reason Iām leery of the Kylo bridge shot is because, as I recall, it was agreed it was best and most intense to see his face for the first time when he turns around in the forest.
I think the best sequence would be what Starkiller AG suggested, albeit with a bit more of the Battlefront footage, particularly what Kewlfish and Movies Remastered worked on to recolor the blue blaster bolts to match the yellow in Kyloās shots.
As for the short forest interior shot, maybe that could be a buffer between the shot of Kylo standing in the empty forest and the shot of him pushing the stone lid off of the wayfinder altar.
EDIT: I also believe Kewlfish had a version of the transports landing that made the lens flare less pink and the sky in the background of the running troopers shot less blue? Perhaps that could be of use here.