Luke dying on the death star is an interesting alternative.
But the cuts to the scene where the core gets attacked do not really fit yet. It’s too fast paced in contrast to the scenes with Luke and Vader.
While very possibly technically accurate, the regrade doesn’t look enjoyable to me with that much green.
Although I guess that this topic is more about accuracy than aesthetics…
Thanks for the higher contrast sample, I really like it, although maybe it’s a bit too much contrast, as others stated. Would probably still be the version I would want to watch with my friends. Now I see that there might be too much green… Ah, it’s so hard to tell what’s correct. And that I’m looking at this on a different display now doesn’t make it easier 😄
I liked the contrast of your previous version, but the sky really profits from either the reduced contrast or added yellows. DrDre, what if you lower the contrast just by a bit in comparison to the first version?
I fiddled a bit around with Photoshop and multiplied 30% luminance of the new one with the old one, which results in this:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/196883
I really like it, but it’s just my view through a calibrated, but not professional display.
NeverarGreat, if you don’t want this discussion in your project, I can of course move that to a private topic 😉
Both look really, really good. The skin tones in DrDre’s look really natural and R2’s body also. I would give in some more yellow in total (as I think the reflected sun light will add that), then it would be perfect for me.
There are things which spoil people who see it for the first time, which is very bad (e.g. showing Jabba before EP V), but the special editions also do that. Shortening EP II’s long dialogues would also be necessary. They cannot be completely taken out, as they support the development of relationships between characters.
So just make sure that you get a good fan edit which corrects that, then the movies can be enjoyed even more. I don’t think they are throughout bad.
I think I would use the title card from the trailers without the border, at first without the subtitle “A Star Wars Story” and then let that fade in.
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/817634108419371008
Pablo admits that 2 & 3 are stuck at 1080p
Well we already know that, because the camera that was used was a Sony CineAlta HDW-F900. But who knows how much a good upscaling algorithm with a given amount of processing power can get out of that? I’m sure that combined with less DVNR, a UHD release will be justified.
Someone mentioned that Resident Evil was also filmed at 2k and gets a 4k release. I’m curious to see how it will compare to the old Blu-Ray release.
Plus, if they were so inclined, they could probably re-render the CGI bits at 4K.
That would be nice, but I doubt it. I think I remember seeing a documentation where ILM explained that they had to recover CGI elements from Episode I for II or III and they said that it was a big mess, too many file versions and they couldn’t find the right ones. Let’s hope they were more careful with the Episode II and III elements…
I have only seen the movie once and liked it, but I agree with a lot of the great ideas here, especially from The Aluminum Falcon. As mentioned, only seen once, so pardon the question: Would removing the mind-reading tentacle alien create some plot hole? Can’t exactly remember.
Also, would you only remove the scene with Vader and Krennic in Vader’s castle, or also the Bacta tank scene? Maybe the latter cannot “stand” on its own, without any conclusive scene that explains what we just have seen and why.
In my current idea, I would start at the view of the Ring of Kafene, then directly jumping into a scene where the storm troopers rush to find Cassian. Maybe even skip that he killed the informant. In another spoiler thread someone suggested that he would look too evil for the viewer if he commited homicide at the beginning of the movie, which would hinder the viewer to build up sympathies for Cassian and also not killing the informant would explain better that he hesitate at shooting Galen.
If her role and performance in Ep 8 will be as unimpressive as it was in TFA, Star Wars should be moving forward normally.
However, I do agree that she deserves a scene in Ep 9.
That was uncalled for.
There are so many over-exaggerated opinions in this thread about the impact of Fisher on the new trilogy. I am an honest person. I gave a realistic appraisal. And I did so in a civil and respectful manner.
taking a cheap shot at someone’s acting (even if you were right, which you may be), is not respectful.
Since when is being honest and realistic a “cheap shot” or disrespectful? Do you take a cheap shot at and being disrespectful to Hayden when you say his acting in PT was unimpressive?
I am completely on your side here. If someone cannot stand the fact that we talk about Carrie’s last role and how it may be in the subsequent films (which is a determining part of finding out how to move forward without her), they should not visit this thread. It’s like going into a spoiler thread and complaining that some people are talking about something “too soon”. And that you have to catch insults for your statement is just ridiculous.
Warbler also makes a valid point. Nobody else than Carrie’s family could be the moral instance for deciding if the CGI is appropriate. If they say no, then Disney will certainly find another good way. Especially with that extra 41 Million dollar budget that ferris209 linked.
Another funeral fire would be the third one throughout the saga then, right?
I think resurrecting a 20-years-dead actor for a relatively minor role is quite different from using a CG likeness of a recently decreased actress playing a main character.
Depends on how big her role in EP VIII will be. Even in VII, she did not feel like a main character to me.
Ok. Maybe not on-screen, fixed that now.
I will stay on topic:
My pragmatic proposal would be to give her a CGI resurrection in EP IX and a death or unknown whereabouts in the first half of the movie. It will be 2019 by the time the movie comes out, people will not be as upset as they were if it happened next year. I would rather like to see some angry fans in 2019 than many confused people in the decades after the release, especially first-time viewers, maybe our kids. They will sit there and ask “But where is that General Leia from the last movie? Was she not in one imporant role?”. Better give a movie with one more CGI character to the next generations than an awkward excuse for a missing character or a plot hole. And maybe CGI will be better in 2018 (production time). Haven’t seen much of Tarkin from Rogue One yet, maybe it’s already good enough.
Provided her family agrees.
Or if they planned to keep the role as small or even smaller than in EP VII, disappearing through the plot (as suggested, for example in the crawl) might be feasible.
Maybe they are lucky and EP VIII already has such an ending that it can be instrumentalized for one or more deaths.
Today, Google introduced their super-resolution technology based on machine learning, RAISR:
https://research.googleblog.com/2016/11/enhance-raisr-sharp-images-with-machine.html
Maybe at some point we will see an implementation that could be useful for our case.
Interesting to see that the 4k looks so much better than 1080p at high zoom level.
Blackout said:
I know my blu-ray player is able to enhance the picture quality of DVDs it plays, and it doesn’t take a second longer for the player to make that conversion. Is that or a similar feature to SuperResolution or Detail-Preserving Upscale, and if so, why is the BD player able to perform it so quickly, and if not, why not use the same optimization software/technology(or w/e it is) for every movie?
I would guess it’s more something like detail-preserving upscale, but not as good and complex, therefore less intensive to compute. There might be a dedicated chip for upscaling in the player which has hardware features that improve the speed of such calculations. Or it is the software that is tailored very well for the chip.
If someone could grab the output signal of their upscaled image from the player and compare it with the results from this thread, that would be cool.
Yes, I have the scripts saved to my HDD and also fiddled around with them, but I don’t think the work will really be worth it with all the new scans and possibly even a rumoured OUT release from Disney (which I don’t believe in at this moment).
But it was interesting to see what can be done with those techniques.
Nowhere currently.
Awesome idea and from what I have seen (some minutes so far) it has been well executed. Will definitely come back to watch the full thing.
Nice to see another one offering his expertise. Your second link is broken (“a” at the beginning") and the video is private.
If there is anything as small as the crawl edit or similar, I would also be able to help with such thing.
Well, I think you must have some video file that you use(d) for your Fan Edit, hopefully from your highest available quality source? Export the part where the crawl is with your cutting software under high quality settings (no compression / lossless compression like lagarith codec is best) and share the file with me. We can also do this via PM if you like.
Daltonkbarrett, you would have to give me the video file (lossless) for English TPM crawl if this is what I should make for you - here is a quick low-quality test with German version:
DeHalo_alpha() actually lightens the source. It is Tweak() that pulls it back down again (“bright=-5”). Avisynth docs note that Tweak()'s variables are floating-point. One should be able to set “bright=-4.5” and get a compromise-image between the two previous test results.
Right, I got it confused there. Although an interpolation still remains?
Aside from non-pro LCD monitors’ “what you see isN’T what you get”, the sequence of processing in Avisynth may significantly affect the result. I didn’t realize all the extra processing DrDre was throwing at it outside of the super resolution program until I read his last version: Star Wars GOUT in HD using super resolution algorithm (page 50) - SRV15.
Several people have stated that they noticed a green shift in V15 (see Page 15, by the way: Are we not able to directly link to posts here?!). Personally I would try it with V12, maybe I will find some time for that.
It’s considered prudent to make minimum use of this function by grouping same-colorspace processing under a single ConvertTo, or by only using functions that operate under the same colorspace. Colorspace conversions have rounding errors, which compound in the destination.
DrDre already tried to keep conversions to a minimum as he stated on many pages ago where he also resolved a problem that came from colorspace conversions. Can’t find it anymore. Why don’t all plugins even support one “standard” colorspace like RGB32?
Most of the time I align the before/after shots in Photoshop because with the possible zoom you can see the changes in very good detail. ScreenshotComparison.com works well for more obvious and not so subtle differences, but I think nobody has really noticed the brightness/contrast change, although it stands out pretty much when aligned.
I agree that we need more testing for brightness and contrast correction values with Tweak(). This process probably is not lossless, is it? We actually pull the values down (by DeHalo) and then interpolate them up again, right?
Also more testing for DeHalo, of course.
Are your pictures based on the SR v15 script with your additions?
It looks good. Even the dirt/grain is reduced. Maybe a bit too soft when taking a look at the folds on the soldier’s arm.
And brightness is lower: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/152831
Have you tried other settings?
I have sent it to you last week, could you please check your inbox? Although, with this new design I wouldn’t be surprised if one doesn’t want to visit OT.com…