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...and with you too adywan, always.

Thanks for this latest enbiggable pic to keep us going, as I was really hoping you'd show us a little something today.  As usual, you didn't disappoint.  :)

This initial glimpse of 'Cloud City' in the distance as the Falcon and cloud cars approach it, and the sun's glare appears, was always one of my favourite 'beauty shots' in the original...and I was a little uncertain when I knew you were gonna be altering it.  I needn't have worried, as your new revamp looks glorious.  Fabulous work as always.

I'm looking forward to seeing that hint of a 'lens flare' in motion eventually.

Great update on your wonderfully ambitious plans for those remaining HD versions, adywan!  (And I'm already delighted about a little sfx enhancement I didn't know you were planning, which you mentioned during your recent comments on FB.  It's definately something I *really* hoped to see!)

I'm pleased to see that if things get a little bogged down on any specific future shots for any reason, then giving yourself the option of jumping back-and-forth between the various instalments *simultaneously* will certainly help to keep things moving on with the project overall, as well as keeping things varied for you.

But I'm now interested to know if you intend to start *simultaneous*, seperate, individual 'Revisited' threads for each of these instalments when the time comes...as I definately reckon any potential ideas/and thoughts/and screenshots/(and 'funnies') from everyone will be far easier for you (and us) to follow/and add to/and respond to, if seperate 'update/suggestion' threads such as this one are used.

Great to see the awesome start of the Hoth battle with the new additions the other day.  The new backgrounds and overall re-colouring looks fantastic.

I was really looking forward to seeing how the views of the approaching AT-ATs seen through Luke's speeder windshield would turn out, and they are fabulous.  And the snowspeeder display graphics have turned out excellent too.

There's been some interesting comments/ideas here recently, about which I can't say anything - except to confirm that there are many other outstanding shots in the rest of the battle for everyone to look forward to also! :)

adywan, a little thing of my own I'd like to mention concerns the tremendous new 'binocular' shot - the nearer, close-up view of the AT-AT cockpit/and drivers is wonderful of course, and I agree that the revised version is a definate subtle improvement with the brief 'blurred focusing' moments included now.  

However, I always liked the initial way that the AT-AT's foot comes down with a satisfying 'stomp'-like movement in the original, for it's initial reveal. 

I think part of the 'shock-of-the-new' for me concerning the new footage is to do with the fact that the AT-AT'S foot seen in the new version is nearly in contact with the ground already, compared to the way we initially saw in the original version, which seemed to be coming down from a slightly higher, more satisfying angle before it hits the ground (seen at 00.33 in the 'comparison' video here) - http://vimeo.com/61219064

For a quick comparison, here's how the first frame in the new version looks (ignore the 'Temp Video' lettering everyone) -

and here's the first frame of the original foot coming down from a slightly higher, different angle to begin with -

It's just a momentary,subtle thing before the camera-view pans upwards from the foot, but I don't feel the new version is quite as satisfying at this initial point.  No biggie however, but I just wanted to bring that up.

Another little thing that is I wanted to mention is that the 'binocular' view seems suddenly very...blue-ish overall...compared to the overall whiter look of shots that come before and after it.  So the AT-AT/AT-ST colouring seems rather blue-hued due to this 'tinted' look.  I know that the original shot is blue-ish too, but somehow it didn't seem such an issue due to the footage being so 'unfocused' throughout anyway.  And I also know that the earlier shot through Luke's 'binoculars' looked quite blue-ish too, and if that's the actual shade of blue 'tinting' effect you want to stick with, then great.  On the other hand, I wonder if things *might* look even more effective on both these 'binocular' shots if the blue-ish 'tint' is toned down a little bit?  I don't mean towards a paler shade of blue, I mean a little more towards a whiter/greyer - looking hue overall, to tie-in with the before and after shots slightly more?  Just a thought.

Either way, should a brief moment of 'blurred focusing' happen at the *very start* of the 'binocular' shot when we first see the AT-AT's foot I wonder?  Would that make the shot even more effective, before it quickly focuses into total clarity or not?  Just another thought.

By the way, the 'binocular' shot was originally our first real reveal of the AT-AT's shape, but now your excellent new *earlier* shot shows them a lot more prominently in the distance than the dark 'specks' in the original.  But I wonder if the size of them should still be made slightly smaller overall, or not?  Is the mountain range behind them looking big enough compared to them in this first reveal shot now?, or should the mountains look bigger compared to the AT-ATs/AT-STs at this point still?  I'm not sure, but the shot still looks great even if they're kept at their current new scale in the distance. 

Lastly, I love the look of Mithrandir's recent 'mock-up'.  I reckon that seeing a hint of mountain background and cloud/sky really helps improve the look of the AT-AT head miniature.  I also quite liked his notion of a hint of 'reflective sheen' in that particular shot as it moves slightly, but either way, I'd definately like to the background altered along those kind of lines, if you think it warrants changing it a little.

Amazing progress on this whole project, regardless.

''Woo Hoo!!'' indeed. 

I didn't think the AT-STs would be revealed until the edit's release (or until a final trailer perhaps), but I'm glad to see this clip quickly helped to raise the additional donations required at the moment.

I'll add a few thoughts on a couple of things shown so far when I've more time tomorrow, but some of the additional things to the workprint are looking terrific.

I'm rooting for Kenny Baker to return in his 'tin can' role too.  Hell, he's only 78 after all.

Not what I expected, but I'll wait and see what he turns out.  All I know is that there were certainly a few moments I'd prefer to see *edited out* of J.J.'s initial 'Trek' reboot, which makes me a little wary of what he'll do with this.

But mainly, I'd like John Williams back to score this final 'trilogy of treatments' from GL, to round off the '9 picture saga' consistently. 

After that, Disney and various other directors/writers can then go nuts with any future 'Star Wars'-related 'spin-offs' or instalments if they wish, as far as I'm concerned. 

(I guess a lot of Trek sites are currently twitchy about this news too, lol.)

Welcome aboard sircheeks.

I suggest you have a good read of the 'rules/guidelines' here and over at fanedit.org, and check your PM's for a message from me. :)

Indeed.  Because there are *so many* differing ways in which the 3 prequels (and even ROTJ) can be recut and restructured, it will be really interesting to see what adywan's own preference is with them all eventually.  And especially fascinating to see whatever additional 'effects' enhancements he chooses to add anywhere too. 

And of course, they will generate a whole new slew of conflicting views on their specific threads for us all to munch through someday... :)

Early previews of the behind-the-scenes stuff?  Fantastic!

Agreed Snaketibe. 'Flipped' shots have always been a peeve of mine too, during re-watches, and it's good to know that certain ones have been addressed in this edit. 

'ESB' is littered with quite a few, and while re-'flipping' certain ones might be awkward-looking from a directional viewpoint, I'd certainly be pleased to see the particular ones you've mention restored the 'correct' way round. 

As far as I'm aware, every one of the various 'flipped' shots during the movie have been brought up previously by someone or other during this epic thread, and here's my own comments (see my 4th post down in the linked page) from way back when, concerning the ones you've brought up -  http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/STAR-WARS-EP-V-REVISITED-EDITION-ADYWAN-UPDATED-CHANGES-LIST-NOW-AVAILABLE/topic/9060/page/613/ 

(PM sent by the way, adywan)

Happy New Year to adywan and everyone else on these forums, from here in the Highlands.  We've got a big year ahead to look forward to on the ESB:R front. :) 

Slange!

Tyrphanax said:

I really hope they don't get really stupid titles.

 ^ This. I wonder if George already had titles in mind for his latest 'treatments'?

To be on the safe side I'd prefer if they are simply called this eventually...

Star Wars Episode VII

Star Wars Episode VIII

Star Wars Episode IX

(Star Wars Episode VII: Sith Happens)

Snaketibe said:

Is it taking a bit longer than we hoped?  Yes.  But will it be worth the wait?  You better believe it!

^This indeed! 

ESB:R is gonna amaze with the amount of fixes and improvements throughout.  Sure, it's taking time to complete due to the ambition involved and life's ups-and-downs along the way, but the final results are gonna blow fans of the movie away eventually.  Another few weeks/months are irrelevant in the scheme of things compared to what's being achieved on this thing.

If that article is correct, it's interesting to see that Spielberg seems to be now claiming that he's *not* the guy for this particular'genre'.  Too bad if he *really* means that, as despite some of his mis-steps, he's certainly someone I'd have liked to have done one of them eventually.

I came across this recently, and wouldn't be disappointed if *this* guy get a crack at 'chapter 7' in that case -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rBpliHAVOQ

So after being as surprised as everyone else about the recent Disney/Star Wars developments last week, this is the first chance I've had to add some thoughts here on how I feel about it all...

As someone who ended up wishing (in hindsight) that the 'live-action' Star Wars 'saga' had just *remained* being comprised of the PRE-'special edition' versions of ANH, ESB, and ROTJ after all...,I was initially conflicted about Disney's announcement to proceed with episodes 7, 8, and 9, along with further regular additional movies thereafter. 

However, that's where this thing is headed in future now, so I've decided to look forward to *all* of them with cautious optimism, in the hope that these 'Nu-Wars' movies in the years ahead will generate at least *some* worthwhile instalments amongst them.

But if George had *really* intended to go ahead with a follow-up trilogy after the events of ROTJ, then I just wish he'd done it about 10 years earlier when the surviving cast were still a little more in their 'prime'...because while I can certainly get onboard with seeing Mark Hamill as an aged 'Jedi master' as a 'bridging' character for the next movie(s), as well as C3PO & R2D2, I'm less sure about the idea of seeing a *much older* 'Han' and 'Leia' appearing at this stage also.  Especially if the recent speculation is true that Harrison Ford will only agree to reprise 'Han Solo' if he gets 'killed off'... 

If that's the case, I'd rather Harrison *wasn't* involved, so that the idea of 'Han's character remains forever young and brash in the public's imagination, rather than see him disposed of for the sake of it.  Time will tell how things pan out, but it seems like Disney is very interested in involving a lot of the *original* well-known characters in future, rather than just coming up with new characters under the 'Star Wars' moniker.

I guess it could be worse, as they might have decided to just 're-cast' the original characters altogether, 'Han' included.  *Shudder*

While Peter Mayhew may be unable to run around in his 'Chewbacca' suit anymore, I'd like to think that Anthony Daniels will still be able to squeeze into his 'C3PO' costume once again.  And while the possible lack of Alfred Newman's '20th Century Fox' fanfare would be missed, one of the *main* things I'd definately like to happen for this next trilogy, would be for John William's to be involved once again.  Future live-action 'Star Wars' movies will initially seem very incomplete without his distinctive scores behind them, no matter how many good composers there are out there...but this initial 'add-on' trilogy would sound especially strange without him in my view.

As far as George himself is concerned, while I'm relieved he won't be the one to come up with the final scripts in future, I kinda wish he could *still* be the one that would have the final say when it comes to choosing *all* the final character/ship/set designs etc. when it comes to this next trilogy...because just as replacing John Williams would dramatically change how things sound on the next trilogy, so will replacing George's taste in how things should look.  I'd be happy to see what future Director's come up with for 'Nu-Wars' *after* this latest trilogy, but I'd far prefer to see this initial trilogy tie-in with George's particular 'production design' tastes to 'finish' things off.

Anyway, along with the storylines, it's gonna be an interesting journey to see what kind of 'cinematography' will be used on future instalments by *whoever* directs them in future.  Will we get a slew of 'crazy angles' and lots of 'slow motion' & 'long, extreme zoom-ins' from now on?  Who knows...but things are likely to look *very* different in the forthcoming live-action 'Star Wars' movies from now on.  And that's not necessarily a bad thing I guess, as long as the stories and scripts are worthwhile. 

So here's a couple of animated, NON-George Lucas directed 'Star Wars'-themed sequences I happen to like, which hint at just *how* 'different'-looking the camera-work could potentially end up, depending on whichever Director is involved in future -

1.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tBM2ZfncoU  (I'm not keen on the 'suddenly disappearing' TIE pilot helmets or the lack of 'purely black' starfields in this personally, but great work by this guy nonetheless I thought)

2.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3I1GTI753Y

Lastly, if it turns out that George's deal with Disney somehow leads to cleaned-up, re-mastered, high-def versions of the PRE-'special edition' Original Trilogy being released finally, then great.  Terrific in fact.  But it won't alter the fact that the inferior-in-many-ways 'special editions' will likely *still* be the 'default' versions that continue to play on TV, fill the store shelves, and get re-released on the big screen in future. 

The time for the 'original' cuts to have been properly released in a high quality format by George with the appreciation they deserved by him, was *many* years ago as far as I'm concerned...*before* he added his misjudged 'additions' to them.  So if it happens, it happens, but I've already got a 'new hope' for an amazing-looking treatment of the Original Trilogy to look forward to now anyway, in the shape of adywan's 'Revisited' versions.  And I only wish that it were possible for the *widest* possible fans of 'Star Wars' to enjoy what *he* has in store with his versions, to be honest.

Sky_ said:

 

Version 1 http://youtu.be/qb_JiBC89pA

Version 2 http://youtu.be/pxrBOTru98E

Version 3 http://youtu.be/7cczdSuQu_U

Version 4 http://youtu.be/3tnjp263ssg improved Render Quality tweaked lighting and differnt soundtrack

Again, some nice work there Sky_.

Here's some more of my own thoughts on your latest versions -

1.  I'm personally not keen on the way your 4th version shows the letters coming towards us initially.  (and additionally, we can't tell that the last 2 letters to go offscreen are an 'a' and an 'n' , as they just look like plain black lumps taking up screentime compared to the legible 'a', 'd', 'y', and 'w' letters that pass.  I'd have preferred to see those 2 at different angles like the others, so that we could see what letters they were too, before they then recede away to come together)

I still prefer to just use the portion of the sequence where the letters are starting to RECEDE AWAY from us before they come together...although I realise this means that whatever accompanying music used will need to be shortened too.  I reckon this would still seem long enough and impactful enough an image overall though.

2.  I'm also not keen on the yellowish background from the lighting effects at the start, and far prefer the lettering to initially appear on a BLACKER background more along the lines of what was shown at the beginning of your 1st version.

But I really like how the small travelling 'sparkle' along the bottom of the word 'presentation' looks now in your 4th version.  And I see you've spaced out the letters in 'an' a bit now which looks better too.  However, I reckon the background lighting effects in your 4th version should move a little quicker before they disappear so that the whole image doesn't stay in place for so long.  And of course, I'd like to see the whole image FADE OUT once the background lighting has finished moving behind the letters.

3.  Personally, I'm also not keen on the added 'Darth Vader' image above the letters either, nor the 'debris' that moves to make it come together.  However, I really liked your new accompanying music on the 4th version, and absolutely love the added 'Vader breathing' sound to finish things off.  I reckon I like the 4th version mix equally as much as I like the original snippet of the 'Imperial March' being used.  Very nicely done.

If you could be bothered, something I'd REALLY love to see tried out is a version along the lines of the very original adywan logo movements...but done using your latest BLACK and GOLD-edged lettering, against a black background or 'starfield', followed by the kind of lighting effects you've shown in the 4th version as the other wording appears.

Either way, I'll certainly be interested to see what colours/movements/music/fonts/background/and timing adywan ends up deciding on eventually.

Some very nice work there Sky_ , and here's my own thoughts on this -

1.  Firstly, as I've mentioned in the past, I REALLY liked the use of a snippet of the 'Imperial March' cue to accompany the original an adywan presentation logo for SW:Revisited that you came up with.  It set things up with a neat kind of tone for the overall presentation I felt.

Of course, adywan may decide to *change* the actual music he uses this time for his finalised HD saga versions...or he may even change to having a *silent* logo altogether this time for all I know...but I'm certainly keen on using the 'Imperial March' again as an intro. piece for his saga versions logo.  (and as doubleofive mentioned above, this logo and music is only getting included somewhere *before* the MENU's, rather than being integrated immediately before the actual FOX logo and scores of the movies themselves)

2.  As far as the adywan lettering itself, although I'd be perfectly happy with keeping something similar to the way it entered the sceen originally for SW:R (if that's what's decided)..., I absolutely love the new movement and BLACK with GOLD edging that you've now come up with for the lettering, as I just think it's a superior-looking colour-scheme, and very classy-looking. :)

But out of your 2 latest versions shown, I *definately* prefer the 'smoother' texture of your 1st adywan lettering.  However, I'm not too keen on the approaching 'a' that comes towards us at the beginning, and would much rather eliminate that portion and just have the rest of the sequence which shows the name come together as it 'recedes away' from us.  (but if you end up keeping it, I agree that it would be better to 'zoom' underneath the 'cross-bar' of the 'a' instead, before the words form.  I just don't think the logo needs this initial portion at all personally, as already it works very well without it)

3. The white lettering you've used for 'an' and 'presentation' look fine enough in the size you've used, but I reckon the word 'an' would look better if it ends up with the *same* kind of gap between it's letters when it comes together as you've given the word 'presentation'.  I just think that the closely-spaced 'an' doesn't look right in comparison. 

And possibly both those words might look better with 'capital' letters instead, but you can see what you think. 

And allternatively, the words 'an' and 'presentation' could just simultaniously 'fade-in' *already formed* at a point where adywan forms together.  Might be worth a try to see how it that looks too. 

4.  I *definately* prefer the overall look of your 1st version as far as your additional 'flare' lighting effects looked.  I'm not keen on the way the 'shine' travelled along the bottom of the word 'presentation' in your 2nd version, and I didn't really like the 'shading' of some of the letters at that point.  I just prefer the overall look of your 1st version, as I reckon it's much superior overall.

5.  Instead of just being set against a black background, I'd love to see how your new logo would look (whether with the initail 'a', or not) if it was made to form against a black 'starfield' instead, before the 'flare' effects kick in to finish things off - perhaps with the 'an' and 'presentation' in a matching GOLD colour, the same as the adywan 'edging' is done.

6.  lastly, I'd *definately* prefer to see the logo remain IN PLACE once it's fully-formed, rather than have it fly off again (although if it's decided to fly the letters off again, I agree that they should be speeded up at this point), and then would like to see all the lettering 'fade-out' to black.

Looking forward to whatever ady decides on, and thanks for sharing Sky_.

Bingowings said:

I greatly preferred the CGI mutant to Oddbod Jr doing yoga.

Dammit, I won't be able to get that 'Carry On Screaming' reference out of my head now when I see 'double-jointed' Fifield again! ;)

While I'd definately like Ridley to eventually release an 'extended' cut incorporating any favoured deleted bits he sees fit to include, I'd prefer it if certain moments of the 'Theatrical' cut were actually *removed* also, rather than just added to.  Oh well, there's always the fanediting thing I guess.

If nothing else, I'd certainly have liked the movie a whole lot more if even just the Weyland 'TEDtalk' speech had been incorporated (even if only the truncated 'viral' version)...even though it wasn't actually filmed by Ridley himself. 

Sadly, I guess that won't be happening come any 'official' re-cut he does, but here's the full scene in all it's glory now - http://www.prometheusnews.net/movie/extended-ted2023-talk/

Going back to the deleted 'Engineer talks' scene that was discussed on  the previous page, I just came across another interesting snippet from it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLgw0jeu_-c

I still haven't seen the full version of the whole deleted scene on blu-ray yet, but having now seen this additional portion of it where the 'Engineer' is wakened up, I quite like it.  I'm glad to see that his initial dialogue is interpreted by David at least if this scene ends up in anyone's edit.

Quite a bit of new deleted scenes info. up at avpgalaxy.net and amongst the forum comments there.

Guy Pierce does an awesome job in the full 7 min. 'younger Weyland' speech, and really gives the character some much-needed background gravitas.  It's 'subtitled' Long Beach, California. 2023 at the beginning of the footage now, and I definately hope that any future fanedits will include it somewhere after the 'Sacrificial' footage and 'Main Titles'.

Sadly, I think it's unlikely that any of this footage will actually get integrated in any potential official 'Extended Cut' that Ridley may release in the future, as this great 'viral' scene-setter was actually directed by his son I believe.  So that might be a problem possibly.  If it isn't, it would be a great loss to the movie as far as I'm concerned, as I reckon any future cut would be the poorer for not using (at least some of) this footage eventually.

I'm looking forward to seeing all the others too eventually, but it's a real pity they aren't all being included on the standard DVD release as well.

Hmmm, the new blu-ray awaits with some possible answers - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJuI6jJzfF0

Bingowings said:

Exactly as I imagined it would have been.

A classic case of a good idea screwed by over thinking.

I'm sure gonna be interested to hear the *complete* commentaries eventually...

I see in the summary that we were originally going to see a 'Derelict'/'Juggernaut'-style design for the 'Primordial ship' at the beginning, but that Ridley ended up thinking it would be 'cooler' to have a different design.  Fair enough, but I'm kinda disappointed that he didn't get H. R. Giger to come up with the concept for that, rather than give us a generic, run-of-the-mill 'saucer' design...as I'm sure he'd have come up with something less pedestrian.

Giger's wonderful 'Derelict'/'Juggernaut' design is a truly 'alien', 'organic'-looking creation, and I'd have loved to have seen what he'd have come up with for an equally 'otherworldly' variation along those lines to better tie-in with it's look.  (Of course, I'd have also preferred that Giger had been commissioned to design the actual 'Deacon'/'Proto-alien' that came out of the 'Engineer' at the end too, but c'est la vie! unfortunately)

Anyway, I came across this unused 'Derelict/'Juggernaut'-influenced pre-production design recently, and while it's not a patch on what I'd imagine Giger could have come up with, it certainly hints at a different look to things in the movie, compared to the 'standard UFO'-shape we ended up with at the start -

There's a few new interesting snippets been put up here from the forthcoming commentary by the PROMETHEUS writers Damon Lindelhof and Jon Spaihts, about how the movie could have originally looked - http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=45642.0

Bingowings said:

Oh brother, the Engineers sound like Klingons.

That voice will need changing come the inevitable fanedits.

It would have been better if Weyland rebuked David saying something like, "I didn't ask for that I just wanted to live a bit longer!" (suggesting that David calculated the provocation).

Hmmm, I know what you mean...as the 'Engineer' suddenly took on a kinda 'Trek villain-of-the-week' vibe for me when he spoke in that deleted scene. :D 

Maybe it was his 'angry gesturing' rather than his voice that gave me that impression, but I think I may prefer him to remain silently enigmatic and 'controlled' right up until the point he rips David's head off.  However, I guess I'll just have to wait a little longer to see how that *whole* deleted scene eventually plays out, before I decide 100% on how I feel about it.

Anyway, here's a couple of short clips from that particular 'DAVID/WEYLAND/ENGINEER' scene that are online at the moment, for anyone that hasn't seen them yet - 

1st clip - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK684Ti1KyI

2nd clip -http://uk.ign.com/videos/2012/09/18/prometheus-extended-scene

The thing is, although we now hear David saying "I told him you wanted to live forever" to Weyland (which kinda confirms what the movie's linguist revealed at this link here, that David had initially said "This man is here because he does not want to die.  He believes you can give him more life" to the 'Engineer' just beforehand in the 'Theatrical' cut - http://thebioscopist.com/2012/06/20/the-linguistics-of-prometheus-what-david-says-to-the-engineer )...NOW we don't know what the hell the *'Engineer'* himself is supposed to have said, as there's no 'subtitles' for him either!

I outlined a few early potential editing preferences of my own for the movie back on page 22, but at the moment, until I see how this *full* deleted scene plays out, I'd rather the alternative possibility of using just *some* portions of the deleted footage, while *removing* the shots of the 'Engineer' speaking to keep him silent and enigmatic.  

So the shots of the 'Engineer' speaking and gesturing angrily, along with Weyland then asking "What did he say?, what did he say?" could be removed altogether, and we'd instead immediately cut at the point where David has finished speaking to the 'Engineer' in the 'Theatrical' version, and then go directly to the portion of the deleted scene in the 1st clip above where David says "I told him you wanted to live forever"...and then cut to the rest of the footage shown in the 2nd clip above where Weyland then tells the 'Engineer' about how he created David and how he reckons he's superior and worthy of longer life etc., just before the 'Engineer' continues to study them *silently* before ripping David's head off.  

This would mean that we'd still get to see Weyland and Shaw getting to know what David *says* he said to the 'Engineer', even though the big guy stays *silent* up until the point where he reacts badly.  (*NOTE* - personally, I also like the possibility of David's words saying "This man is here because he does not want to die.  He believes you can give him more life" being added in 'subtitles' when he speaks to the 'Engineer'...but this particular edit of the scene would *still* work fine even if they're not.  And importantly, the background music cues can still work quite seamlessly together with the particular shots I've mentioned)  

However, I'm still hopeful that the complete deleted 'talking Engineer' scene will play out nicely when we see it's *full* version eventually.

Unfortunately, I have a feeling that a lot of the scenes are unlikely to fit into any future edits *seamlessly* quality-wise judging by some of the screenshots and comments over at avpgalaxy.net currently, as it looks like there's some unfinished stuff on them - http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=45595.0

For instance, there's some incomplete greenscreen work during the Janek/Vickers conversation scene, and the extended fight scene between Shaw and the 'Engineer' *doesn't* have the 'Engineer's burns/scarring effects included on his face from his crash, unlike the 'Theatrical' footage.  So big continuity flub there, dammit!

Also, while I'm certainly gonna buy the blu-ray of this when it's out in my region come October, I've already had a squint at a reasonable quality 'preview' source now, and it looks very 'blue-tinted' to me overall...*SHUDDER*.  I reckon 'ol Ridley has been messing about with it's colour-timing since it's 'Theatrical' release, as I don't recall those particular hues on the Fox logo from the cinema showing I originally went to!  So I have a feeling that the deleted scenes may have a different colouration to them compared to the actual blu-ray release, when it comes to edits. :( 

I sure hope I'm wrong about that.

Captain Antilles said:

muddyknees2000 said:

nightstalkerpoet said:

 

A part of me would love to see Ewan McGregor's mole added to Alec Guinness in the OT.

 Why not remove it from the PT instead? Thats more Revisited's style anyways.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

...I agree completely. =)

Although I'm keeping my powder dry until the actual ROTJ:R and Prequels:R threads come along one day (I'm guessing the prequels will get a dedicated thread each at the *same* time as each other, seeing as adywan is planning on editing all of them at the same time)...I do love the fact that the 'mole' thing has been brought up already. :)

It's always been a trivial little thing that caught my attention during the prequels, but add me to those that are hopeful that adywan will erase it from Ewan's forehead wherever it's prominent, to better match Alec's blemish-free, 'older' Obi-Wan forehead, lol. 

Especially since Ewan got rid of it anyway - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-479865/Ewan-McGregor-gets-mole-truth.html

Bingowings said:

This highlights the problem I had with the thread being made.

I'm not Ady (honestly) and this is pure speculation on my part about a project that will not be seen by us for many years about which Ady and the gang already will have much of it mapped out.

The same is true about ROTJ:R.

It only makes sense discussing things as they are done or planned to be done when Ady (or one of his merry band) can run something he is proposing by us.

Until then it working out ideas anyone can use makes more sense (to me) I am not you (honestly).

To be honest, I have the same problem with this, and was happy to wait until adywan's own future 'official' REVISITED threads, purely so that any good ideas didn't get scattered and lost over *too many* threads.

Bingowings, I've sent you a PM about something I'm trying to remember.