ITHoTMK

Echo3 said:

Just got this off the spleen. I dont lurk around OT.com as much as I used to. I have to tell you this is one my favorite things to ever pop up here or anywhere. I grew up on a pan and scan VHS of this title, and was very disappointed when the DVD came out. I knew right away it was… different.

I scanned through this and it looks amazing. cant wait to watch it in its entirety.

Thank you.

Thanks! Much appreciated. Just hope it leads to a proper release some day. So much was drained out of the image that it was impossible to fix everything. This is close but not all the way there. Still, better than having to watch the Bluray in its current stage.

LordZerome1080 said:

That might be it.

That’s it. My bad. Was definitely talking about someone else. Sorry bout that.

Until then these kinds of private projects are best served by being supported instead of attacked. I’ve read quite a few or your comments to others on this forum and you seem incredibly quick to denounce many peoples efforts. Granted, the quality of some of these projects leaves much to be desired. I’d suggest viewing them and moving on if you don’t like them. Overall, these kinds of projects do more good than harm particularly when companies are made aware of assets they otherwise thought were dead were being shared and celebrated. That’s just my opinion.

digitalfreaknyc said:

ITHoTMK said:

RU.08 said:

ITHoTMK said:

Awful. Okay. That was just a web compressed version. There is obviously a higher quality version both uncompressed and one encoded for those who want to burn it to Bluray. But based on this post I don’t think I will be sharing it privately.

I didn’t mean to offend, just to say the 15GB version was badly compressed (not surprising given the size and the length of the film). I’ve seen worse though as well, and those were “completed projects”. I’m sorry if I came off as rude, I’ve had a bad week which started with my cat being attacked by a dog.

That’s all well and good. No offence taken. A lot of work went into the project with assistance from various sources. I think this one is best held back until possibly after the 4K UHD version is released.

Agreed. If the 4k is as good as we’re all expecting it to be and from the original negative, that would render this project useless.

Even if the 4K is from original sources, if they’ve pushed the grading beyond what was capable in 1978 I’d consider it disappointment. I’m not interested in a digitally polished product ridding all evidence of the camera negative. It’s about retaining the original aesthetic without the wear and tear of repeated performances.

RU.08 said:

ITHoTMK said:

Awful. Okay. That was just a web compressed version. There is obviously a higher quality version both uncompressed and one encoded for those who want to burn it to Bluray. But based on this post I don’t think I will be sharing it privately.

I didn’t mean to offend, just to say the 15GB version was badly compressed (not surprising given the size and the length of the film). I’ve seen worse though as well, and those were “completed projects”. I’m sorry if I came off as rude, I’ve had a bad week which started with my cat being attacked by a dog.

That’s all well and good. No offence taken. A lot of work went into the project with assistance from various sources. I think this one is best held back until possibly after the 4K UHD version is released.

RU.08 said:

ITHoTMK said:

FULL LINK COMING SOON.

Don’t put a direct link on the forum, it has to be shared privately. Are you re-encoding this from the source files? Because the 15.2 GB version is available as a direct link on capedwonder.com but the compression is awful it needs to be re-done from the master files.

deathstar1138 said:

I wonder if this is the same as:
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:AvPwFEAcx88J:https://www.supermanhomepage.com/superman-the-movie-the-35mm-silver-screen-edition/+&cd=10&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

That version seemed to be a fake one, where they just put
grain over the bluray edition.

It’s not fake, but it’s not a private scan either. They (ITHoTMK I’m guessing?) took an existing transfer of the film (probably a telecine for broadcast I’m guessing) and reconfigured it to be theatrical by inserting shots from other sources. But the compression was awful - the 15.2GB capedwonder.com direct link still works. Hopefully ITHoTMK is re-encoding it properly to bluray bitrate in which case it should look a lot better than the original encode.

Whether it actually came from a “print” is debatable - if it did it came from a telecine master print, not from a theatrical print. There’s way too much detail in the dark areas for it to have come from a theatrical print.

Awful. Okay. That was just a web compressed version. There is obviously a higher quality version both uncompressed and one encoded for those who want to burn it to Bluray. But based on this post I don’t think I will be sharing it privately.

digitalfreaknyc said:

What’s the point of this again? Are we saying the 4k won’t look like film? Or be the definitive theatrical version?

There’s no guarantee that the 4K will preserve the print as it appeared in 1978 although the original 6-track Dolby Stereo mix was upgraded to 7.1. The 35mm Silver Screen Edition is an attempt to preserve the film as it looked and sounded in 2.0 Stereo as most saw it when it was first released. The source print was not the standard Bluray which is typically what is made available for home purchase.

deathstar1138 said:

I wonder if this is the same as:
[redacted]

That version seemed to be a fake one, where they just put
grain over the bluray edition.

I haven’t heard of anyone scanning the movie, maybe over
at AMPS someone might know.

Already have it, but again, seems fake.

This is that version but it’s not a fake. The print used is not from the 2001 Special Edition which was ported over to Bluray. No grain was added either. Watch the sizzle reel again and you’ll see it’s not simply the current Bluray made to look like an older version of itself. The sources are completely different.

LordZerome1080 said:

This sounds awesome

Thank you. Will have it up shortly. The goal of this version of the film is to marry the original 2.0 stereo sound mix, which is how most people saw it theatrically when it was released, with a 35mm quality print of the film devoid of nearly all the digital restoration done over the years. This project was inspired by the fine folks at Team Negative 1 and their work on the original Star Wars trilogy.

SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE first aired on the ABC Network in February of 1982.

The broadcast would later become known as the Extended Television Cut.

Captured by fans on Beta and VHS tape, until home video, Laserdisc and DVD release this is how SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE, for years, would be known to viewers around the world.

The Extended Television Cut and later the 2001 Special Edition, otherwise known as the Directors Cut, are all that have been available to fans apart from the digitally restored editions on Bluray released in 2006 and 2011.

With the upcoming 4K Ultra HD release, there still remains a void in delivering to fans a version of SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE in its original theatrical form.

While alternate cuts are nothing new in the industry, these alternate versions are nothing more than curiousity that never truly capture the original theatrical experience.

SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE The 35mm SILVER SCREEN EDITION is an attempt to re-capture that experience. A restored 35mm transfer that looks and sounds like a film.

Sir-Dobbo said:

Hi ITHoTMK,
Thank you so much for your hard work on Dracula.
I got it off MySpleen last night and watched it this evening.
So I thought I should come say a big ‘Thank You’.
The title has been changed to…
‘Dracula 35mm Silver Screen Edition By ITHoTMK’
Thanks again
SirDobbo

Thanks for letting me know. So long as they retain the original title as it was intended. There may be a version available in the future with the optical titles properly restored. We’ll see.

ChainsawAsh said:

I believe MySpleen torrents can have their titles changed if I’m not mistaken.

Hope they do. I’m glad it’s being shared and people will see it. My only goal is for fans to enjoy it and hopefully for Universal to see the light, or is this case the dark 😉, and release the original theatrical version officially. Especially now that the Deluxe Edition remastered score is now available.

https://www.varesesarabande.com/products/dracula-the-deluxe-edition

botox1 said:

Someone put the ITHoTMK’s work on Myspleen.org as a torrent,
with the title “Dracula 35mm Full Colour Restructure”
I hope that ITHoTMK is agree with this?

I was messaged about this privately. I can’t and won’t stop anyone from sharing the film as it’s already in violation of copyright. However, I don’t appreciate the change in title. It wasn’t a full restructure by any means. And “DRACULA The 35mm Silver Screen Edition” is what it should be called.

countdraacu said:

Just finished watching “Dracula, the 35mm Silver Screen Edition” in a 3 meters white wall at home using a digital projector and the Oppo 203 UHD-BD player plus a home theater audio system and the movie looks and sounds magnificent, especially compared with the crappy regular BD, dvd, and Laserdisc previous versions.

The picture looks clean, sharp, vibrant and powerful. It made me remember how beautifully shot this film was. I can’t believe it was considered “too gory and modern” when it was premiered. I even enjoy that seduction red laser dream sequence that all the people trashing the movie seem to hate, problably only because it comes from the director of “Saturday Night Fever” . In my opinion its totally fitting for a dreamlike sequence the same way Roger Corman used blurry colorful filters making dreams look like LSD trips in some of its classic Edgar Allan Poe adaptations.

In my opinion Langella’s Dracula had the bad luck of being released at the same time with spoof “Love at First Bite” and Werner Herzog’s “Nosferatu” (which in my opinion is highly inferior not only to Murnau’s masterpiece but also to Badham’s Dracula) So, almost nobody took the film seriously.

As I see it, the test of time has been kindest to this version than the celebrated Coppola version or even the usually OTT Hammer Films starring Christopher Lee. Watching it nowadays feels like seeing a Merchant/Ivory horror film, especially compared with some of the latest crap about the inmortal Count and other vampires. I’m talking about that ‘thing’ called “Dracula Untold” of course.

So, If you’re a fan like me or want to see the movie for the first time I totally recommend you to ask ITHoTMK the link and enjoy “Dracula” (1979) the closest way it was conceived.

And let’s all cross our fingers to see a “40th Anniversary Edition” on 4k or Blu ray next year with a theatrical version scanned from the original negatives or the best print available. If its happening with the soundtrack, why not with the film?

Thanks again and awesome work, ITHoTMK

Thank you very much for your kind words. I made it for fans like you, like me. Who only wanted to see the film in its original theatrical form. So long as it’s appreciated? It’s much appreciated. 😃

LordZerome1080 said:

I sent it to the wrong guy.

No worries. Sent! Enjoy the technicolor golden darkness. 😉

LordZerome1080 said:

I have also sent a pm friend

Haven’t received a message from you if that’s what you meant.

botox1 said:

Waouh the trailer is really great!
Thank you for your work.

Thank you. Apologetically I should mention that the optical titles could not be restored as an additional black layer of text had been added over the white.

https://vimeo.com/80577390

This Dracula sizzle reel is a much simplified demo of the Superman: The Movie 35mm Silver Screen Edition I completed earlier this year.

https://vimeo.com/292502291

LordZerome1080 said:

Sorry I didn’t know.

No worries. All good.

LordZerome1080 said:

The link is still there.

If you mean the Vimeo link that’s just to a sizzle reel. Removed the other link to the film.

ChainsawAsh said:

Delete that link and ask people to send you a private message if they want a copy. Direct links are strictly forbidden on the forum.

Done and done. Thank you for the official direction on this forum. Best.

Please message me directly for a private link of DRACULA The 35mm Silver Screen Edition.

https://vimeo.com/295047399

Weren’t you going to be working on your own version of Dracula in an attempt to restore the original color palette? After completing Superman: The Movie I thought I’d try my hand at another childhood favorite of mine. Like many, when I picked up the DVD, I was terribly disappointed that Universal had retained John Badham’s 1991 Laserdisc color grading. I wasn’t sure if it was entirely possible but I think I’ve managed to nail it given everything I’ve read about what was done to the film. Please enjoy this sizzle reel of the final work to come.

Dracula (35mm Silver Screen Edition Sizzle Reel)

https://vimeo.com/295047399

I’m not sure how far you’ve gotten but I’ve recently completed a complete color restoration of Dracula (1979) on my own having just finished another project. For fans of Superman: The Movie (1978) please watch the links below.

https://vimeo.com/290271156

https://vimeo.com/292502291

I’ve been looking for a place to share this new Dracula: The 35mm Silver Screen Edition and will be more than happy to share my work here as soon as it’s ready.

Did anyone else manage to complete their own color restored version?

Cheers!