Yes it has and it will stay, because it's there throughout the whole scene and I am not painting it out frame by frame. Also, a lot of the smaller dirt particles are left in but those you'll even find on the BD and the over-all look is very clean now.
Well, I'm not going to reveal the source of the footage as I'm not sure they'd want me to (if they want to, they can do it themselves) but otherwise yes and I can tell you, pulling those colors out wasn't easy and manually cleaning up all the dirt with clone-stamp in AE was also quite a feat (also, as usual with such cases, thanks goes to Laserschwert for first degraining the footage for me) but I think the results are definitely worth it.
OK, this thread really needs to get back on topic and I may know just the thing to do it...
I use postimage.org and it seems great so far.
I'm not sure what you mean - I already uploaded two workprints with the Hoth part in them.
Well, I blended the edges together :-)
I'm getting closer to releasing the final workprint and boy, do I have a few surprises for you guys :-)
So, what I posted before was correct? There isn't any extra frame in the GOUT like Neverar said?
Oh, really? I'm really screwing up here with my assumptions, aren't I? I really though Project Blu was the same frame-wise as the GOUT and it was the only GOUT source I had on hand. Sorry about that. The mystery remains. So, in the GOUT proper that 3P0 frame would be 3033?
Wow, that is interesting! I never noticed that.
It's also interesting, what the hell happened to those elements in the SE? They almost look like bad recreations rather than the original elements blown out.
Yeah, sorry :-) Here are some screenshots of what I'm seeing when I put the 2006 DVD and the BD together into After Effects this way:
Oh, right, sorry, I see what you mean now - I thought it was weird that you wouldn't realize that :-) And yes, in both the 2006 DVD and the BD, when frame 0001 is the 1st frame of the logo, the first frame of the 3P0 and R2 scene is 0332.
Well, that's a big problem when you're taking video sources into account - in video sources, there are usually additional or missing black frames at the beginning, which would be accounted for by a simple audio delay, so it's hard to say what is actually frame #0001. That is why I synced all three at a cut from shot to shot and then you can start comparing frame differences, because a frame difference, which is there from the very first black frames and continues to be the same throughout is practically inconsequential.
Sorry, I meant the SW logos, not the crawls, the crawls are of course different but the SW logo appears on the same frame in all three.
OK, sorry guys, the frame actually isn't missing on the BD, I made a mistake there. Sorry for the false alarm. However, I put the 2006 DVD, '97SE and the BD all side by side (I unfortunately don't have a usable file of the '81 version at hand, so I can't speak to that) and synced them by the first frame of the first shot of the inside of Tantive IV (with 3P0 and R2) and everything else seems to be in perfect sync too - the crawl starts on the same frame, all the laser shots and flashes appear in the same frames, so the audio should be perfectly in sync as well.
msycamore said:
Harmy said:
@towne32: Yeah, a few of those zoomed in shots were already done this way in v1.0 but it wasn't until after the release of v1.0, that 005 noticed many many more shots were actually zoomed in and added them to his gallery and those are the shots I just did but yeah, the video I posted also contains those I'd already done before.
Man, that's historical revisionism! ;)
towne32, see here : http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Complete-Comparison-of-Special-Edition-Visual-Changes/post/523550/#TopicPost523550
Ooops, sorry about that.
The thing is that set photos aren't really much good for color timing reference, because it depends greatly on the lighting, post production color timing and what kind of filters were used on the camera.
I'm on my phone and didn't manage to watch the whole video but I saw the first part and I definitely remeber the BD missing one frame (I think second or third to last) in the flyover shot and I had to recreate it to keep it i sync with both the GOUT and the '97 SE (which BTW is the same composite as the BD and '04 DVD version and different from the '81 version).
@towne32: Yeah, a few of those zoomed in shots were already done this way in v1.0 but it wasn't until after the release of v1.0, that 005 noticed many many more shots were actually zoomed in and added them to his gallery and those are the shots I just did but yeah, the video I posted also contains those I'd already done before.
@rockin: I was trying to make the color of the sabers and skintones consistent and the consistence of background sometimes suffers a bit as a result but it was never that consistent to begin with :-) And yes, the 97SE was taken into account, though my main reference was still the GOUT with boosted colors.
It helps, that it feels pretty natural with anamorphic cinematography, that the edges are a bit less sharp than the center of the picture.
It's put together with the BD of course, I would have thought that pretty obvious but I guess you'd have to compare it to what just the upscales look like on their own. Also, to see the quality, you need to download the video, not watch the streamed version on uloz.to.
OK, so concerning those zoomed-in cockpit shots in ESB; most of you have probably seen, that Ady unzoomed those shots for ESB:R using some 35mm sources - I contacted him, asking if I could use those shots he made and he said he didn't mind if I used them but I'd have to wait for ESB:R to be released and since it may still be quite a while before that happens, for v2.0 I decided to go with my original plan and unzoom those shots using the GOUT and 97SE (most of the zoom-ins were done in 2004) and I spent most of today's evening working on it and you can see how it worked out here:
video: http://uloz.to/xzWoKV5o/unzoomed-compar-mp4
images: http://postimg.org/gallery/75qley3w/ (The pics are from the video, so there are some compression artifacts.)
(Note that the colors aren't final - they are just adjusted, so that the sources fit together but they will most likely be further tweaked when I put them into the movie.)
By any chance, does anyone still have the multiupload links for SW v2.5 AVCHD and/or MKV loaded into JDownloader? It seems multiupload is down but all the separate links to the other servers should still work but they cannot be got from the multiupload links, so if someone had them loaded in JDownloader, they could make a DLC out of them and save me a re-upload, which would have to be to uloz.to.
LOL, you guys, you flatter me too much :-)
But yeah, I'll definitely be trying to improve that scene - I actually have a lead on some HD 35mm sources for it.
Oh, BTW, by any chance, does anyone still have the multiupload links for SW v2.5 loaded into JDownloader? It seems multiupload is down but all the separate links to the other servers should still work but they cannot be got from the multiupload links, so if someone had them loaded in JDownloader, they could make a DLC out of them and save me a re-upload, which would have to be to uloz.to.
Sounds great, guys! I'm glad this is moving forward :-)
I downloaded these (except for Ep 3) and they should be useful for Despecialized, especially ROTJ and potentially an eventual TPM DeEd. Thanks schorman for this wonderful preservation!
Also, I just wanted to say, that if it was possible, once/if you get to doing the menus, it would be pretty wizard, if you could replicate the structure of the 2004 DVD menus by using the videos from the DVD menus and upscaling them to 1080p (I guess PAL DVDs would be better, since they have better resolution).
