Harmy

I might try - I do have an HD scan of it somewhere.

I'd say today, or tomorrow at the latest, since the way I understand it, hairy_hen is already uploading the tracks I'm missing and those are the only thing left before I can mux the final releases.

Well, that would be great, as long as it was a proper master with the original colors and a seamless branching option for all three versions (which shouldn't be that hard in the case of LOTR).

Seeing how green-tinted the Hobbit films were,even in the cinemas, I'm not holding my breath though.

Great, thanks! I'll need that information when writing the NFOs.

Feallan said:

What tracks do you currently have?

 Well, I should be getting the iso score, the 5.1 and the theatrical stereo from hairy_hen. I already have the 16mm mono from Puggo's print in both DTS-HD and AC3 (which I unfortunately forgot, who made but they are in the credits ;-D ) and then thanks to CatBus, I have a myriad of foreign tracks in AC3 (CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, PL, PT-BR, RU, UK). And three different commentaries.

All those 4K remasters I mentioned are also the same old versions already released on BD before. When Blade Runner was released, nobody cared about 4K, heck, most normal buyers wouldn't even have known what 4K was, now, even the average Joe knows what 4K is, as they are creating a big hype around it.

Oh, yeah, that definitely is how they did it in that ESB shot, I recently noticed they actually talk about it in one of the commentaries.

gizzy2000 said:

Harmy said:

Well, all they need as a selling point for the next release is what they already have in the restoration that is the topic of this thread - Star Wars Trilogy Mastered in 4K - I recently re-bought Spider Man on BD, because Sony's Mastered in 4K version is far superior, and if I already had Men in Black, I'd re-buy those in the Mastered in 4K edition as well (check out the links to see why) and many people did so and so they will for Star Wars, especially if they make a point about the colors being fixed as well, since that is a well known issue among even the SE fans and they may not care so much but I'm sure they'd still jump at the opportunity to buy it with fixxed collars.

 Would that be as popular of a gimmick as an OOT blu ray release? I mean, you can fix the colors in the SE but I just don't think that's enough to justify a re-release. I mean, you have to advertise a re-release and give people a reason to buy what they already own, and I just don't see them saying, "the colors are much better than the first time," maybe they would but I just don't see it. I'd take an OOT release with bad colors than an SE with perfect colors, and I doubt i'm the only one. As for the 4K scan, I'm no expert on the subject, and I'm not going to pretend to know what they have planned for that now that 3D has been canceled, or postponed indefinitely. Could they use it for an OUT release, or is that out of the question?

 Well, like I said, it was popular enough of a gimmick for Spider Man, Men In Black, Ghostbusters and many others. Really check out those links to see the difference that a new 4K master can make to a movie - and considering the shoddiness of the current Star Wars BD master, I'm sure the 4K re-master would make at least as much of a difference it does for Spider Man, if not as much as Men In Black. And I'm not saying Disne, won't release the OOT, but it may not be needed as aselling point for the nearest release. In fact, it would make financial sense for them to release this new re-master of the SE first and then make us tripple dipp with the OOT a couple of years later.

Oh, so there will be an isolated score, just not the most recent one? That's fine with me :-) I'm currently encoding the MKV and the AVCHD is already encoded, so I will be able to mux and upload it as soon as I have the tracks :-)

Well, all they need as a selling point for the next release is what they already have in the restoration that is the topic of this thread - Star Wars Trilogy Mastered in 4K - I recently re-bought Spider Man on BD, because Sony's Mastered in 4K version is far superior, and if I already had Men in Black, I'd re-buy those in the Mastered in 4K edition as well (check out the links to see why) and many people did so and so they will for Star Wars, especially if they make a point about the colors being fixed as well, since that is a well known issue among even the SE fans and they may not care so much but I'm sure they'd still jump at the opportunity to buy it with fixxed collars.

You forgot pitchforks too!

If I went to TFN and started telling everyone that Lucas is a nearly-talentless hack, it would definitely be trolling, regardless of whether it is just my personal opinion (which it is) or not.

DominicCobb said:

timdiggerm said:

DominicCobb said:

ObiWanKennerobi, I think you're on the wrong site. 

 Because a discussion forum is only for people who agree?

I merely meant he'd be better suited discussing Wars on TFN. I was not aware at the time that he used to do so there. 

ObiWanKennerobi, I was not trying to make you feel unwelcome, I simply mean that you will not find many (any?) here that will agree with your line of thinking, at least to your extent.

To clarify my own opinions, I actually do love the PT and Lucas, but I can admit to their many faults.

 Oh, come on, you've successfully banished the troll, and now you're summoning him back?

No, I did not give permission and I'd like it to be taken down immediately - for one, there's a good reason for the ways to download this to be somewhat cryptic and also, I definitely don't support my work being released in such terrible, awful, incredibly low (I could continue with the  adjectives of horribleness) quality - and either way, the link should definitely not be posted here - it's against forum rules!

And uploading this to youtube is also a terrible idea!

And I don't know what you find so confusing about the srt files, they are just subtitles, so if you don't need subtitles, you can simply ignore them altogether.

Oh, I'm already working on Jedi :)

Probably both at the same time.

ObiWanKennerobi said:

I love the prequels

That's all I needed to know...

Huh?

Meanwhile, last night, I edited the 2004 DVD and 2011 BD commentaries to synch with ESB Despecialized - I managed to only lose a short Ben Burt comment during the added Cloud City approach CGI shots in the '04 commentary and keep everything else intact (although it means that the sound of the movie in the background of the commentary is occasionally out of synch with the picture during the scenes that were altered but over-all, I thing it works really well. I also edited the 1993 commentary to fill the silent parts with the 1993 stereo mix, so everything will be like in SW v2.5, except I unfortunately still don't have the 2004 web commentary, which I did have for Star Wars but I guess it's not that big of a loss, though it would be nice for the sake of completeness.

That's great! Thanks!

It has to be GOUT synced though!

I don't think I currently have one but if someone sends me one in the next couple of days, I'll definitely include it.

Yeah - perhaps not quite as many but still a lot.

Nooo! Now that hairy_hen is nearly finished with the audio tracks, I will have Empire v2.0 out as soon as I get the tracks from him and you will have wasted a DVD9 disc, because this new version is just so much better than v1.0 it's not even funny...

By that logic, the first rough cut of Star Wars with all the cut scenes is actually the original. The workprint version of Blade Runner is the original. With Clue, you could go further and say, that the ending first written is actually the original, or the ending first conceived in the mind of the creator is the original.

Yeah, hence the smiley :-) But it does look like they put them through the same process - i.e. they recomposited the elements with too much opacity and without the slight blur, which was probably intentional in the original compositing.